Leo Gura

I have never denied paranormal abilities. Quite the opposite. Paranormal abilities are mostly a function of genetics. My only point is that those things are not God-Realization and not the highest consciousness. I have never claimed that Sadhguru, Teal Swan, or Matt Kahn are crazy or lying. I regard all of them as honest and genuine. But they do not have the highest consciousness of God and their methods will not allow you to access that consciousness. Do all the shaktipat you want, you will never access Alien Consciousness or Alien Love. You cannot even comprehend what that is. No amount of yoga nor meditation nor New Age voodoo will get you there. And none of this is to say you should stop doing those practices if they benefit you.

Higher consciousness life forms probably have even more evolved kinds of emotions.

There are some toxic aspects to RSD, especially the old content. However it's miles better than Tate.

That's God's hint to you to move.

@thierry It is not hard to find high quality, non-toxic advice about masculinity and dating. Take a look a David Deida, David DeAngelo, and Owen Cook. To name but a few. Being weak is not necessary. Being toxic is not necessary. You guys should be doing deep research into your sources of personal development. Find the best sources. This is a no-brainer. Don't just go for the most common, dumbed down, cheapest, social media-popular sources. If you check out David DeAngelo's content you'll see it's 100x better than Tate. If you struggle with dating and masculinity, frankly, you'd be insane not to consume all the content from David Deida, David DeAngelo, and old-school RSD. That's all you need.

Look, you can learn valuable lessons even from horrible people. But I cannot recommend young men to listen to Tate when there are such better sources for personal dev. It's not like we have a lack of self help teachers out there. If you listen to Tate a lot you will develop very toxic attitudes which will ruin your capacity to relate properly to women, and you will suffer for that for years. It will then take you years of work to i do that. That's the bottom line.

You want to contemplate and go deeply into your trip rather than getting distracted.

A few times I did 12-24hr long vape sessions of 5-MeO-DMT. Not sure the dose. I don't really measure doses when I vape. After a certain number of hits it gets so intense that I can't vape any more until it passes.

I have addressed this point several times already in this and other UFO threads. It's not as simple or dumb as them crashing into a tree. You are glossing over all sorts of nuances of how this stuff works in the real world. Do not discount that it's possible for humans to shoot these things down.

I have never lost consciousness on 5-MeO. Does not seem possible for me.

If you walk into a random pharmacy and consume a random bottle of pills, chances are your state of consciousness will not change much.

He runs a very mainstream-oriented organization, so that's baked into the cake. But that's why I try to stay away from that kind of thing. I think Sadhguru could make it less guru-worshipy if he actually explained the principles behind why the techniques work and how to develop your own yoga techniques. But he's gonna say that's too dangerous and unsuitable for newbies. Sadhguru does not even explain what spiritual result the yoga will produce for you. Just vague promises of better health and happiness. He never says something like: do X, Y, Z and you will realize you are God. Who knows how much and what kind of his yoga you will need to do to realize what God is? Maybe never. The whole yoga concept demands that you blindly follow some guru. That's their whole scheme. Which just doesn't align with my epistemic values. But that's my values.

Most legal drugs have no effect on your consciousness.

Nope, not even close.

Thanks. I am working on being more gentle and humane with you guys.

Yes. The million dollar question is what result will it produce? For me, what turned me off from Sadhguru's yoga is when I found out he teaches a weak-sauce version of yoga to newbies and then plans to upsell you on the serious yoga years later. I could not stomach that. But I don't want to discourage you. Follow thru on your plan if you feel it is right. I hope you see great results.

I have edited my original reply to tone it down and be less pessmistic and dismissive.

Absolutely.

My video: How Happiness Works is my best understanding of happiness so far. I think that's the most realistic approach for most people. I suspect that the highest path to hardcore sustainable happiness is something like becoming a full-time monk or yogi. But few people are that serious or suitable for it. And if you aren't suitable it may make you extra miserable. I've experimented with that path and as much as I liked the idea of it I don't think is suits me. At least not right now. Maybe when I'm older. I incur suffering and unhappiness for myself through the ambitions I have for my life and work. If I dropped all my ambitions I would probably find greater happiness but I don't want to drop all my ambitions. So it's a tricky balancing act.

In the end if something works for you, I encourage you to keep doing it. And in the future I will continue testing out new methods on myself. I can't know what I'll find. I will try to be more accomodating to you guys in the future. I don't want to limit your growth with my own limits. The biggest issue is that not everyone is like me. And sometimes I forget that. This is a very sneaky trap in this work. We judge the effectiveness of things based on our personal experiences.

Sure, that kind of test is good to do. I have done those kinds of tests with various techniques. But many times they didn't produce the promised great results, which leads to disappointment and frustration. Sadhguru doesn't like you experimenting with his techniques. He wants you to do them religiously without even explaining how or why they work and why they fail to work if they fail.

Staying in your comfort zone might make you pretty happy in a lame sort of way. I'm not sure what the optimal path to happiness is. It will certainly vary from person to person and also luck will be a factor. And there are different kinds of happiness. One kind of happiness will not satisfy certain kinds of people. Some people could be happy just working at the post office for 40 years and just raising a small family. But, for example, I could never be happy with that. Other people will be happy working on Wall Street for 40 years, raking in billions. So you have to discover what you need that makes you happy. For me happiness comes from understanding reality. Although this has its limits and can become a trap. Most pursuits of happiness can easily turn into hell. Even sitting doing nothing under a tree can become a trap.

I can confirm that if I do 1-2 hrs of Kriya yoga I do sleep less. But not 2-4hrs less.

When it comes to Sadhguru's work, what I saw when I went to his workshop is that everyone there is following him like a sheep. And for me that is a dealbreaker. But with that said, you may love his work and it may benefit you. But in the last analysis I will have to ask, How much understanding of Consciousness did it give you? But again, that is my bias. You may have other goals.

@Javfly33 I do tend to have a pessmistic/realistic bias in my attitude towards this work. My apologies. It can be hard to strike a good balance between stuff like wild claims of sleeping 2-4hrs per day vs not. On the one hand sleeping 2-4hrs per day is a very unrealistic result. On the other hand a few people may someday achieve it. So what is to be said? I try to steer people away from going on spiritual wild goose chases. But then maybe I steer a few people away from a real wild goose. It's hard to give concrete actionable advice that works for everyone. And on the other hand if I always say stuff like: "Anything is possible. Go try it." Then such advice isn't very helpful. In the end anything is possible and you won't know until you try it. Which makes this work such a bitch. There's too much stuff to try and too little time. The problem will all spiritual techniques is that we don't have good data on how effective it is across all types of people. And spiritual teachers love to deny that their fave technique is ineffective for someone by blaming the person for whom it didn't work.