Leo Gura

It's not meaningless. Believe it or not, you are not conscious yet that A = A. You will only become conscious of it upon Awakening.

Consider the possibility that you are imagining deep sleep

It's a bit useful but you can find much better models and teachings. The question is what's worth your time studying? Don't waste time on low-yield material. There is too much good material out there these days.

I never expected him to have the best game given who he is. What you are missing is that not everyone is supposed to have great game if it doesn't suit them. There are much more important things in life. Moreover, having great game and knowing how to teach are two different things. I don't have great game, but I could teach it better than most, cause I am good at understanding and teaching. Owen's primary function is to inspire you to take action. Game is not rocket science. It's actually very simple stuff executed very consistently.

Robbed, or enabled? How can you awaken unless you are first asleep?

Love is not that. Love is the Unity.

They change your brain chemistry. And that's no small thing that you can just will your way around. Your brain chemistry dictates your entire experience of life. ENTIRELY. And yet, all of chemistry is ultimately imaginary. Quite a bitch of a the paradox, eh?

Mostly it's a waste of time. You'll get much better understanding of psychology by investing that time observing your own psyche and doing consciousness work. The work we aim to do here is way beyond anything an academic can fathom.

That's not a bug, that's a feature. You cannot define Being because Being is Absolute. The definition of Being is not a verbal one. It is Awakening itself. The only way you can know what Being is by Awakening, and no other way. Yes. That's called Awakening. You'll know the moment you Awaken. And not until then. - - - - - - You are not appreciating the depth of this matter of Being, is-ness, and existence. You treat it as something trivial. You cannot be satisfied without Awakening. Nothing finite will ever satisfy you, because you are Infinity.

This is actually incorrect. "Bodies die all the time" is your dream. No body has ever died -- you are imagining they did. But this requires a level of consciousness which few of you here comprehend. If you are deeply conscious enough, there literally is no such thing as death. Will this help you at the human level? No. Not at your level of consciousness. You are stuck in a dream, and your dream involves the death and suffering of bodies. But actually none of this has absolute reality. It is an elaborate illusion which you call life. And your mind clings to it. Have you never died in your dreams? What happens? Death is a dream. The reason this doesn't help you is because you're dreaming and terrified of the dream ending. All this may should theoretical, but actually it is the opposite. Death is theoretical. If you were conscious enough nothing could kill you. But you are not conscious enough, so you will die, cause that is your dream. Realizing this is the whole point of spirituality. But it requires levels of consciousness which almost no one is capable of. From the POV of your current state of consciousness, you will die. But only from that limited POV. As much as it might pain you to hear this, but terminal illness is still a dream. You cannot escape the fact that you're dream just by dreaming up something horrible. The most horrible shit in the world is still nothing but a dream. In fact, this is where you find salvation. Notice that what I'm saying is actually very positive: death isn't real. And what materialism and the ego says is very negative: death is real. And yet people get upset when told the positive news that death isn't real. The reason this twisted reaction occurs is because the mind is so attached to dreaming that it would rather die a real death than admit that everything is a dream. It has to be that way because this is how your mind constructs reality. If you didn't honestly, fully believe that death is real, you could not have reality as you know it. Once you realize death is an illusion, all of reality falls apart and nothing at all matters. And this is what you're really terrified of, perhaps even more than death itself. You are terrified of losing the construction we call material reality. The highest levels of awakening are so conscious that you are too conscious for even reincarnation because even that is realized to be a dream. At the highest levels of consciousness there is no past or future. There is only Absolute Now, which never ends. But this is not something your mind can comprehend or imagine unless you directly experience it. An integral part of what it means to be human is to be incapable of letting go of the imagination of your death. If you stopped imagining your death, you would stop being human and you would become immortal. But you are not conscious enough to do this through your will power. Hence you are stuck inside the human dream and you will remain stuck until some day you break out of it. This breakout will either happen via awakening or what you call death. Yes, all this feels like a slap in the face to your mind because your mind needs to believe that suffering is real. Telling the mind that all suffering is just a dream, does not please the mind at all. Even though this is the greatest news. The mind is in the business of dreaming, not Truth. The quickest way to piss someone off is to invalidate all their suffering by telling them it's imaginary. That being pissed off reaction is the defense mechanism against Truth. Truth is much more radical than people expect, so they are not capable of accepting it. This is the very core of how selfishness works. The finite self cannot accept itself as an illusion.

The problem with dealing with devils is: 1) they screw you, 2) they corrupt you.

An awful critique. What you have to understand is that hardcore pickup guys who are stuck in stage Red/Orange and live life for nothing but sex and money, cannot fathom the depth of the spiritual and philosophical stuff Owen teaches. Nor can John Anthony. Owen's most advanced stuff is lost on them. They dismiss it all as just woo-woo nonsense, because these are not spiritual or deep people, they are scummy, shallow, douchey players. They are in fact the worst aspect of the pickup community. Owen doesn't just teach pickup. He teaches something way deeper, if you have the depth to hear it. But if all you want is to act alpha and get laid to the max, yeah, Owen is not for you. RSD didn't downfall, it naturally matured and evolved. It also became more socially responsible to avoid getting cancelled. I know plenty of guys who dismiss Owen's deepest teachings simply because all they want is sex, sex, sex. And I have no interest in such people or such teachers. Making your life about chasing sex is pathetically shallow.

You've chosen a devil as your role-model. Good luck with that.

Obviously not!

You act as though there can only be one masculine role model in the world.

@Jake Chambers Very sorry to hear that man. You're in a sad situation and I get why saying death isn't real would only add insult to injury. Death appears real from unawake states of consciousness. But saying that doesn't help you. What would help is accessing those states in which death is realized to be imaginary. Psychedelics have been shown to be very helpful and effective for helping people in terminally ill situations. If it makes you feel any better, you're not really gonna die, you will simply change forms. I would recommend psychedelics to help you gain hope. Not fake hope, but genuine hope, cause your consciousness truly is immortal. It's a question of what shape you take. Basically, with "death", you melt into Infinity, then you can dream anything you want. If you would like to discuss further, PM me.

Solution is stop being silly and needy. Go get 10 numbers per night and don't stop going out just because some girl is texting with you. Your mind will concoct every excuse imaginable to not do your daily quota of approaches. You are not exclusive with a girl until she sleeps with you and asks to be your gf. Until such time you don't stop approaching.

@Tudo Dude, stop this nonsense. Go talk to girls.

Enough

NN-DMT is not active via snorting. It will burn like hell but not get you high.

John Anthony shits on every pickup instructor. It's his way of doing marketing. No matter what shit John says, Owen has made pioneering contributions to the field. Is Owen perfect? No. He's a pickup instructor. Set your expectations accordingly. Basically any pickup instructor is gonna be a deeply flawed human being. Highly conscious people are not found in pickup.

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I've actually said this girls in a dark parking garage. She was over 21 though. Lol

If you are telling a girl she's beautiful, you are flirting with her! For fuck's sake.

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