Leo Gura

After RSD collapsed from Julien-gate, they found a niche in working with very rich exclusive clients. Owen discovered you can milk millionaires who suck with girls and get free money. It would be like if I changed Actualized.org to be the spiritual guru of Hollywood celebrities and Tech Bros, charging them $10,000 per phone call and $50,000 per psychedelic retreat.

They def make less money now. Their online media footprint was decimated after Julien-gate. Back in 2015 their online following was epic. Today it is very niche and underground. Yeah, I don't understand why Owen became less funny. He went from fun to cranky and overbearing. Julien-gate really shook him.

I can be obnoxious but nowhere as much as Owen.

He earns more from new customers than old ones. The old ones are too saavy. Gotta milk the rubes.

There will be a pitcher of mysterious Kool-Aid

He doesn't need to say anything that gets him canceled.

Ramana was tended to by orbiters and groupies. Nisargadatta sold cigarettes. Most monks are not actually alone, they are part of a monastary where they work like dogs cleaning toilets and such. The monastary is usually financially supported by some political ruler or oligarch. A monk living in a cave is virtually not a thing because it is nearly impossible to survive that way for long.

I can't listen to Owen any more for this reason. The speaking is too obnoxious. Like he is speaking to morons whose ears don't work. It is unpleasant. His old style was far better.

That's why traditionally monks grovel for food. Probably suck dick for food too. People don't appreciate the realities of being a monk. There's no free lunch.

Nope

You willing to smoke dope?

@Inliytened1 You want to come to the retreat?

It's very simple: think autonomously. Either you will or you won't. If you won't then you have learned nothing from me.

We talk about collective issues as important. That's what Conscious Politics is.

Full monk mode is nearly impossible these days due to internet. If you have a business you can't be in full monk mode.

I didn't say no phenomenology. Yes to phenomena, no to a body or finite self or "a life". You don't need to be in a human body to be conscious, experiencing, thinking. Human perception will stop. But other perception could start. You could be conscious of the totality of God. Or various parts of it. You could enter all kinds of interesting disembodied dream states, similar to when you dream during sleep. That is a taste of what is possible.

Because he is just using them for sex.

I don't know what that means.

@Inliytened1 I don't exclude meditation, but it is not the focus on this retreat since we will be short on time anyway and it won't be necessary. If people want to learn meditation there are much better teachers of it than me. My speciality is in teaching understanding.

Yes, reincarnation. Or even just kinds of God-consciousness without incarnation. Incaration is not necessary for Consciousness. There can be states of Consciousness which have no body, no self, no life. Yes and no. There are multiple ways in which death is not real. 1) Death is not real because you are Consciousness and Consciousness is Absolute and never dies. Consciousness is all there is. 2) Death is not real because NOW always exists and you are NOW. 3) Death is not real because death is imagined by Consciousness. 4) Death is not real because you can keep reincarnating forever as anything you want. 5) Death is not real because the human self is imaginary and not real, so there is no one to die, just an idea/illusion "dies".

All those retreats were bad. Which is why I want to design my own. I will not teach meditation but all the facets of God/Consciousness will be taught.

Technical problems.

Yeah, he is shmeless about it. He's rationalized it to himself in his mind in the same way he has rationalized that he is God's gift to women, when in fact most women who sleep with him will regret it. That's how narcissist works.

Yeah, that's why 5-MeO's are prefered.

I have tried most of those. They tend to blur together in my memory so I can't give a clear difference between them, and it would be different for your brain anyway. -MPT, -McPT, and -MIPT tend to be preferable to me.