Leo Gura

Except that's clearly not the case.

The fighting in Gaza is gonna be a total deathtrap. Clearing Hamas out of there will be a nightmare:

I wouldn't say that. The Israeli army still shows way more restraint than Hamas.

Israel needs to be told to use restraint. That's really all that can be done at this point. Israel will either go hog-wild or they will use restraint.

@jdc7733 Good. Don't restart them. Focus on other areas of your life.

@OBEler I understand what you mean. I just hope others don't misunderstand.

There are valid parts to the medical community, and some invalid parts. This requires nuance. Obviously if some of those don't work for you, then they don't work for you. But also maybe something will work for you. It can take a lot of troubleshooting to find something that will work.

I left to go indie. I got there, but then I had other deeper interests like philosophy, personal dev, and spirituality.

Don't lose your shit, this is being offered as one perspective for you to contemplate:

Don't take what I said too far. I can already smell guys around here itching to misunderstand, twist, and abuse this.

You can't really give "freedom" and democracy to a pre enlightenment-era culture because freedom and democracy do not exist at that level of development. It's the same problem as giving freedom and democracy in Iraq. Or giving feminism in Afghanistan. Liberals make the deadly mistake of assuming everyone is equal when they aren't. Freedom and democracy can only exist once the citizens are evolved enough not to elect folks like Hamas. As soon as they elect something like Hamas, all the freedom goes down the toilet. True freedom requires tolerance and respect for alternative perspectives and lifestyles to your own. Which these Islamists are incapable of. Freedom requires racial and religious tolerance, which only arises at stage Orange and above.

Animals breed a lot. Breeding does not require development or smarts. It just requires being an animal.

Then stop taking them.

Yes, however that doesn't matter when it comes down to a direct confrontation. Morality doesn't work at that level of pure violence. For moral high ground to work you gotta not completely enrage the sleeping bear. Once you start beheading their babies you can't demand mercy from your enemy. That's the foolishness of this Hamas action. The US did crush Al Queda and ISIS. So it can work. Israel can occupy all of Gaza for years.

I watched a video: Why you can't divide by zero.

Easy-going, playful, social. Like playing with a child.

@jdc7733 It sounds like you need some anti-psychotic medication to ground your mind. Please visit a good psychiatrist.

Finding your life purpose would be the best solution here. I have a course on that.

Unfortunately I don't think they will listen to anyone's calls for moderation. They are like an angry hornets nest now. There is a high likelihood that Israel will overreact as the US did after 9/11.

To be clear, it is possible that Israel goes overboard in a nationalist, genocidal campaign for revenge. That would be a big mistake.

There is no integrity to terrorism. That's why it always fails in the end. Revenge is not a high form of integrity. You can't rape a baby with integrity. This is why successful rights movements try to follow the principle of nonviolence, like Gandhi and MLK. If MLK turned to terrorism, blacks would still not have equal rights in the US. Blacks were oppressed worse than Palestinians, but they didn't turn to terrorism, which is what saved them. Palestinians need MLK-like leaders. Not Osama Bin Landen.

True, although they also had a lot of outside aid and they had to pay many reparations. And it took much time. In 30 years Gaza could be a decent place with much help. I wouldn't count on that. Israel now has a lot of enemies from outside to be leery of. Israel won't be able to let its guard down for a decade to come. This act of war will embolden their right-wing. It's like Hamas did the worst possible thing both for themselves and also for the Israeli right-wing. It was a lose-lose strategy which set everyone back. Everyone lost.

It's not so surprising. The Japanese had to do an unconditional surrender in WW2. So did the Germans. The Palestinians are entering an unconditonal surrender situation. Imagine what the US would have done if Japanese kept up doing terror attacks. We would have nuked more cities. That's how this works. This is not a game, this is war. Leftists don't understand what war is. They treat war like a charity. In this case Gaza made an act of war. And now they get war. War is different than colonization or apartheid or occupation. War is a lot worse.

It's a very dire situation at this point. Yes, they are badly cornered and there is no good solution, but the worst possible option is for them to turn to more violence. In the end, if a people cannot embrace peace and they are very weak, they go extinct. That's how this works. Violence is a tool for the powerful, not for the weak. The only hope now is for the international community to help Palestinians elect nonviolent leadership.