Leo Gura

But this is totally wrong. You ARE fully allowed to disagree with the collective on nearly any issue as long as you're not a jerk about it. Again, notice why JP got banned. It wasn't for his philosophy. It was for namecalling. His philosophy is allowed. Hate speech doesn't mean it must come from hate. It just means bullying and bigoted behavior. You should not be allowed to use slurs and the like. Of course if people are getting offended over mere difference in perspective then that should not count as hate speech. Hate speech is not defined by if someone feels offended, it is defined more objectively as racial slurs, namecalling, calling someone subhuman, posting cartoons of Jews with big noses, etc. All major online platforms must enforce anti-bullying. It is not optional.

Woke ideology is def an echochamber, but no major platform is pure woke ideology. Not even close. Right wing ideology is all over these platforms and no one is planning to remove it. Restricting hate speech and bullying is not woke ideology. It's basic decorum for a social gathering. It's like you're saying: the party you're hosting is just an echochamber because you are not allowing me to jerk off on the dance floor. Yes, in that sense it is an echochamber of people who don't jerk off on dance floors. But I am okay with that. That's how it should be. If you want to jerk off on dance floors, you should host your own niche parties that don't involve the general population. But the whole point is that you don't want to jerk off on a dance floor all alone, you want to jerk off in front of the whole general population, you want to jerk off on other people, which of course we will not allow. Notice that mostly who gets banned are those with a habit off jerking off on others.

Not really. The echo-chambers that exist on social media are not due to bannings, they are due to how algorithms take people down ideological rabbitholes and keep serving up the same content endlessly, resulting in brainwashing. But YT or Twitter as a whole are not echochambers. You can find an infinite diversity of perspectives on them if you cared to. Just because Nazis and racists are banned does not result in an echochamber.

No one on any major platform is banning intelligent spiritual or philosophical discussion. Just notice that. What they are banning is mostly trolling, bigotry, and very bad ideas spoken by very ignorant actors for personal gain. JP did not get banned from Twitter for speaking some philosophically brilliant truth. He got banned for simply being an asshole to a trans person. If JP wanted to make a substantive critique of trans issues, he was free to do so. But instead he devolved into personal attacks and being an ass. And so was legitimately banned. But then he whines as if this is a free speech issue. It isn't. You don't have a right to have your jerkness broadcast to the world.

Your analogy is like a squirrel sandwhich.

That is a problem. Police can go too far. There is never going to be a clean solution to the policing of speech. It will always be hairy, grey, and messy, with over and under enforcement. Just as is the case with the policing of crime. You never have perfectly fair laws and you never have perfect enforcement of them.

I agree that Musk personally deciding who to ban or unban is not the solution. There need to be community rules which are then enforced as evenly as possible with an appeals commission. This is the proper way. Basically, government must set consistent rules across all major social platforms for acceptable and unacceptable behavior. And then it needs to force Twitter and everyone else to objectively enforce the rules. And have an appeals process. That's how all this is solved. Government exists precisely to solve such problems. We have rules that prohibit people from jerking off in public. And those rules are then enforced by police. That's how this works.

There is no contradiction. Intelligence is accessible, but no one dares to do the work to access it.

No, not just a few idiots. Dude, you really need to study some history to see how often demagogues have hijacked the masses into behaving in heinous ways, leading to war, genocide, rape, torture, slavery, bloody revolutions, etc. I appreciate free speech if only because I say some very radical shit for a living. If there is any proof that free speech is alive and well it's that my content is allowed to exist. But free speech only works when it is done in good faith by people with integrity. Yes, if you're a Nazi you may get arrested in Europe. I wonder why? The Europe and Canada examples actually undermine your point because those countries do not have 1st Amendment protections yet they are more developed and people there are happier than in the US. How come Canada manages just fine without a 1st Amendment if the 1st Amendment is so important? Why is Canadian society not some Orwellian hellscape? Or perhaps giving Nazis endless legal protections is not so important for building a healthy society?

For the same reason that training for the Olympics is difficult. It's hard to be consistently at your best.

You are dreaming. That's all there is to reality. And there is nothing outside this dream because "outsideness" is itself part of the dream. For a thing to exist is for it to be dreamt. Nothing exists but dreams.

That's NOT an assumption. That's literally absolutely true. Check.

No. After Kanye's rant, the Jewish meseum in LA was flooded with dead threats. Violence against minorities, gays, trans, Jews, and Asians has all skyrocketed since 2016. Hate crimes and mass shooters write manifestos says that their attacks were inspired by ideology they heard on Fox News, Alex Jones, or 4chan. Smearing gays as groomers and pedophiles causes people to die. You are not thinking about these issues seriously enough. You are treating this as mere philosophy or online word games. No. I posted a video on my blog a few months ago of a news story where a father killed his whole family because he thought they were part of the QAnon conspiracy. Anti-vaxx disinfo is precisely not science. Science is not powerful enough to combat rampant disinfo campaigns. That is not the job of scientists. I have no respect for common people's intelligence. Common people are morons who can be turned into Nazis by bad actors if given the chance. Just look at what Trump has done with MAGA.

Yeah, very interesting. China's stage Blue governance style will not hold forever.

Kanye West's anti-semetic rants. Right-wingers smearing gays as "groomers" and pedophiles. QAnon. Anti-vaxx disinformation. Climate change denial covertly funded by oil companies. Trump tweeting for a rally to storm the Capitol and deny election results. Tweets that deliberately mislead black voters about when and where to vote. You can use free speech to destroy legitmate governments, scam people out of billions, or incite terrorism. So this is not casual matter. You don't appreciate how serious this is. A company can lose a billion dollars just by someone tweeting false information. For example someone can tweet that McDonalds spit in their cheeseburger, and McDonalds will lose $10 billion overnight. Or someone could tweet a false rape accusation just to destroy a politican's reputation. It's a problem for everyone when Russian spy agencies manipulate US public opinion via Twitter in order to subvert democracy. What you refer to so dismissively as "elites" are often people how were legitmately democractically elected or are the most compentent people at their jobs.

Well, not that we are in the same position, but I get death threats and people ridicule, troll, and gaslighting me on a regular basis. To the point that I don't even share some of my deepest insights and ideas. As a trans person, just like as a public figure, you are just going to have to accept that you will receive harsher treatment and more shit from people than a normie. No platform can save you from that. Holding non-normie positions will get you haters. That's how society has always worked. We would all be killed for the positions we hold today 100 years ago. So don't take for granted how this stuff works and how serious it is. If you're gonna be on the cutting edge of social evolution you will have to endure a lot more shit than normal people. That's part of the challenge of evolving society. Trans folk will have to endure decades of non-acceptance before they are widely accepted. Because you are asking a billion people to change their minds on very fundamental issues just to accept you. I understand you just want to be accepted, but you must understand why that will not happen as readily as you demand. It's actually nothing personal. You are asking all of civilization to change to accomodate you. That's no easy thing.

Some ideas are dangerous. It's not just that ideas are shared, it's that bad actors spread discord, misinformation, and exploit free speech.

That's up to her to decide. If she likes you then she won't treat you like a spammer. And if she doesn't, then in her eyes you are one. Hence you should never get invested in any one girl until she sleeps with you.

Excellent! Yes, the map is not the territory. But keep going. There's much more to awaken to. You've only begun.

I'm not talking about conceptual 2nd order truth about some subject. I'm talking about 1st order Truth itself. Your field of experience is 1st order Truth. The question is, What is Truth?

Be careful not to get too idealistic about it. The basic fact is that survival is a dirty business. You can only clean it up so much. If you can offer someone a decent job, often that's better for them then anything else around. It's better than working in some Amazon warehouse and pissing in bottles. Just treat your employees decently and most of them will be grateful. As you become more successful and you treat your employees even better. But if you are not super profitable then don't worry about that too much right now. Offering someone a decent-paying job is not exploitation. This is a very bad idea from Marxist ideology. When it comes to worker-exploitation, that's usually done by giant corporations who deliberately squeeze employees to maximize profits. As long as you're not doing that, then you shouldn't feel bad. Basic fairness is all that workers really want.

Truth is just your experiential field. It could not be simpler. Don't make Truth into some kind of inaccesible abstraction. Look at your hand. That's Absolute Truth.

Me developing thicker skin on what issue? I have been forced to develop a lot of thick skin from people criticizing me on all sorts of issues. I force myself to endure perspectives here which I disagree with because I don't want to create an echo-chamber. Our general policy here is to control speech here as little as we can get away with, so that diverse perspectives are shared. I don't like blocking any perspective unless it is clearly toxic or in bad-faith. Or is just misinformation or dogma. - - - - - Anyhow, if you find content here that disturbs you, let me know and I will investigate it. If I think that it's harmful/toxic I will remove it. BTW, we issue warnings to people every week for vulgar posting. So it's not like people will get away with that here for long. Any genuine racist, homophobe, sexist, etc. will eventually get banned here. We have banned dozens of them.

Free speech absolutist types. No society/community has ever had absolute freedom of speech. Because it is too harmful and too easily exploitable. Every social space must have rules that everyone must follow. This is the basis for all civilization. This is not a mistake nor a violation, it's common sense and decency. All social spaces require observing basic decency. That's really all that moderation is meant to accomplish. But humans are so indecent that they struggle just to accept that.

If you find someone on this forum using hate speech or making violent gestures against minorities, or someone is bullying you, then report the incident to me and I will handle it. But if someone is just sharing a perspective you disagree with -- such as, there are only two genders -- that is not something we will moderate. You guys need to develop a thicker skin for handling contrary perspectives and philosophies.