Leo Gura

I don't doubt he believes his own BS. That's hard to quantify. I don't have a number for you. Depends on the costs. Minor stuff is worth it like hair transplant.

Hey, ya'll, I need your help! I want to create a comprehensive list of video examples of prototypical stage Orange thinking. This is not meant to humiliate or demonize stage Orange. It's meant to be an educational tool for people learning about Spiral Dynamics. So towards that end, scour Youtube and find all the videos you can which exhibit stage Orange thinking. Try to find videos which are short and sweet. The more diversity we can display here, the better. Try to find examples from various cultures: Europe, Middle East, Asia, Indonesia, Japan, Russia, Africa, South America, etc. We will create a mega-thread like this for every stage in the Spiral, from Red to Turquoise. But here, let's just focus on Orange. Each week I will start a new mega-thread topic for the next stage. Do not start a political debate in this thread! It is not our goal here to defend our personal political positions or to judge any stage, but simply to compile examples. Thanks for your help! I'm excited to see what kind of juicy stuff you dig up. Try to be selective with your choices. This can turn into a really cool list. List of Orange Values: Achievement, success, excellence Climb your way to the top Upward mobility Obsessed with being #1, be a winner Improving one’s own position in life Efficiency, progress, productivity, optimization Gaming the system, min-maxing, manipulation Creative exploitation Action, results, pragmatism Never-ending growth Capitalism, libertarianism Competitive marketplace Deregulation, denationalization Hard work, business, entrepreneurship Competition, winner-take-all Self-improvement Skills, knowledge, education Confidence, optimism, charisma Entertainment & showmanship Personal freedom, self-reliance, independence Free speech Money, sex, luxury Net worth Physical appearance, youth, sexiness, coolness Consumerism, conspicuous consumption Brands Pop culture, celebrities, social media Quarterly profits, mass market, sales Mass production, industry Rationality, logic, science, secularism, humanism Technology Materialism, reductionism, atheism, evolution Hard-nosed science, no New Age mumbo-jumbo Pragmatism, empiricism, skepticism No metaphysics Analysis “Facts” Data, analytics, models, quantify everything Science-based fact-based education Double-blind, peer-reviewed studies “Scientific method” IQ Strategic planning, risk analysis Innovation & creative thinking Results & the bottom-line matters most Maintaining a competitive edge Competence vs rank or bloodline Recognition, reward Win-win outcomes Stage Orange Examples: America, capitalism, emerging China, businessmen, CEOs, biz suits, corporate boardrooms, lawyers, Wall Street, Wolf of Wall Street, insider trading, Manhattan, hedge-fund managers, Goldman Sachs, Big pharma, Big oil, Big banks, tobacco companies, advertising, Fortune 500 companies, entrepreneurs, libertarians, Ayn Rand, professional sports, FIFA, NBA, Superbowl, sponsorship deals, fashion, Rolex, nightclubs, pickup, MOGTOW, redpill, bro culture, Republicans, Trump, trophy hunting, breast implants, plastic surgery, Botox, liposuction, pornography, Playboy, Hustler magazine, Hugh Hefner, Larry Flynt, strip clubs, Hollywood biz, supermodels, Silicon Valley, start-ups, venture capital, Bill Gates, Warren Buffet, casinos, theme parks, Carl Icahn, Koch Brothers, corporate raiders, Walmart, Amazon, Coca-Cola, McDonalds, Disney, Monsanto, Microsoft, GE, AT&T, IBM, Facebook, EA, micro-transactions, gamer culture, Enron, R&D, lobbyists, Dick Cheney, Halliburton, yuppies, internet, bodybuilding, Arnold, steroids, corrupt politicians, MBA programs, golf courses, fly fishing, anti-union laws, patent trolls, Western medicine, Larry Ellison, Steve Ballmer, Dave Rubin, Stefan Molyneux, outsourcing, deregulation, tax cuts, trickle down economics, payday loans, sweatshops, junk food, fast food, energy drinks, used car salesman, marketing, sales & PR, focus groups, television, reality TV, infomercials, game shows, CNN, MSNBC, liberal media, e-commerce, financial industry, software engineers, technical scientists, nuclear weapons, luxury yachts, private jets, personal helicopters, real estate tycoons, railroads, the Gilded Age, Robber Barons, Andrew Carnegie, Rockefeller, J.P. Morgan, William Hurst, Rupert Murdoch, Robert Mercer, technocrats, cocaine, alcohol, pop music, rock music, club music, rap music, trophy wife, gold-digger, oil drilling in Alaska, champagne & caviar, fancy restaurants, luxury resorts, cruise ships, mercenaries, Black Water, gated communities, mansions, video games, Success magazine, private prep schools, poker players, self-help industry, biz books, biz seminars, marketing seminars, Dan Kennedy, Tim Ferris, Tony Robbins, Tai Lopez, Brian Tracy, Michael Shermer, Richard Dawkins, Lawrence Krauss, Daniel Dennett, Sean Carroll, Stephen Hawking, Christopher Hitchens, consulting, success coaches, millionaire mindset, net worth, sports cars, Mercedes, BMW, Rolls Royce, Lamborghini, Ferrari, VIP, celebrities, paparazzi, Las Vegas, Cannes film festival, Aspen, Palm Springs, Hong Kong, Macau, Dubai, cost/benefit analysis, nerd culture, polyester clothing, PT Barnum, snake oil salesman, atheism, skepticism, separation of church & state, enlightenment values, “Western values”, Founding Fathers, Benjamin Franklin, Voltaire, Renaissance, Industrial Revolution, factories, Henry Ford, WTO, Ferengi, Kim Kardashian, Kanye West, Paris Hilton, Bernie Madoff, Paul Manafort, sex drugs & rock n roll, mid-life crises, malls, fashion shows, NASA, SpaceX, Elon Musk, for-profit universities, get-rich-quick schemes, online millionaires, Bitcoin, Forex, daytrading, utilitarianism, Logical Positivism, behaviorism, Darwinism, social media, gun rights, Ivy League universities, Harvard, Yale, Princeton, MIT, CalTech, military industrial complex: Lockheed Martin, Boeing, Northrup Grumman, Sigmund Freud, Harvey Weinstein, 2008 financial collapse, dot com bubble, Cubism, Abstract Expressionism, Surrealism, multi-level marketing, Viagra, DDT, asbestos, billboards, GMOs, cloning, human genome project, stem cell research, robotics, computers, birth control, sex education, all-you-can-eat buffet, karoshi: death thru overwork, Alex Jones, prosperity preachers, Howard Stern, South Park, The Simpsons, Family Guy, House Of Cards, Avatar, Boiler Room, Ray Kurzweil, Sam Harris

The absurdity of this is that Clav has exceptional genetics. You will never look as good as he naturally looks with him doing zero lookmaxxing. His looksmaxxing is NOT what makes him look good. It would be like if I was born with a footlong dick and made a channel about how to grow your dick with dickmaxxing. But that's not how I got my dick. Clav is lucky to have great genetics and his looksmaxxing is just performative online antics for purposes of clickbait. I promise you his looksmaxxing got him zero extra sex. Other than through the fame of his channel. No girl is sleeping with Clav because he looksmaxxed himself. This idea is laughable.

You will certainly get that. I understand that editing will be a significant job. I don't expect just minor edits. However I have a lot of experience from making my videos. I edit my outlines like crazy until they are perfect. It's just tedious but I know how to do it.

I wonder how much is nostalgia and how much is conformity. I don't know. If it's nostalgia I am okay with that.

Of course. It will change how you see everything. But if you already seen all my videos, you know much of this information already.

Self-help is not just Orange self-help. Christianity and Islam teaches many self-help-like lessons. Of course it is not Orange in flavor. Although even Christian prosperty gospel exists for the Orange-minded Christians.

Then they should love my book.

Of course that is not what I mean when I say logic. My notion of logic is not about mechanical rule-following but the logic of how your mind flows and comprehends things. My notion of logic is rich, qualitative, and subjective, not just a machine crunching numbers.

Well, every atom is pulling on every other atoms in the universe so of course all causality is grossly simplified down. However, the simplification does work. You understand that if you step on a dog that you caused it pain, not some random atom on the other side of the universe.

Okay, but you are using logic in your proofs and thinking. If you think about some topology, you have to think about it logically. Logic is the structure of Reality in a sense. It is not limited to human logic, but much of math is covered by basic human logic.

Interesting. Thanks for sharing.

@Joseph Maynor What is wrong in an MP3?

I am not suggesting any hard duality there. It is simply that math is 100% a mental game and physical science is the opposite, at least that's how most scientists treat it. Math allows for proof and science does not. But even in math, you can't just say you had some insight, you need to write up some formal proof that others will agree with. If you have some brilliant insight like Ramanujan that you cannot prove, no one is going to take you seriously. By making proofs you are playing that academic science game. You are inventing stuff that can building a consensus, just as scientists do. I don't know if there are paradigm shattering ideas in math. I guess Cantor's infinities was one of those. But I feel like in math this is much more rare than in science. It is just harder to be closedminded about math as a mathematician than a scientist is closedminded about spiritual matters or ontology. Math is basically logic and science has many logical aspects to it because the physical world is largely logical. Don't forget that there is much math that doesn't apply to the physical world. But some of it does. Humans are sorta cherrypicking the math that is useful to them and ignoring the rest. That is a fair point and I will take it into consideration. My book is not going to be as combative or harsh as some of my blog posts. The blog posts are more informal. The book will be more suited for converting skeptics without alienating anyone.

Pre-ordering games! OMG! Such pointless mindlessness.

Looks like reviews agree this film is bad. Seems unoriginal and paint by numbers. Note: I have not seen it. But after the reviews, I don't wanna.

If you step on a dog and the dog yelps, you are not making that up, dogs really don't like being stepped on. You can use your intelligence to comprehend why stepping on a dog causes a yelp.

Mystical stuff is career suicide in places like Harvard. Some may do it, but they do so mostly in the shadows. Math is a special case where how you get it done doesn't matter as long as the proof gets delivered. This can sorta work in math but it cannot work in informal fields like science where stuff is way more messy, murky, and no proofs per se exist. I am not going after math, I am going after science because they are the ones who invented the "but this is unscientific" defense. "Trust me bro, I know what real science". With regards to your point about my tone and style, I understand that point and I am experimenting with what tone best to take. Basically, the ideas I'm presenting are so fucking radical that science will not accept them. So my tone reflects that. In math you have proofs. In my science what I am saying cannot be formally proven. So what I'm facing is quite different from your math situation. The notion that if I'm just more polite and nice that science will embrace these ideas is just not how it works. Science will fight these ideas to the death. And yes, science is long overdue for some shaming because they are shameless. Is it ideal to shame scientists? No. But it is deserved given their overall behavior. I am not just writing dry academic arguments, I am sending the world a passionate wake up call. For better or worse. If I am going to demonized and slandered anyway, I may as well not pull any punches.

There is of course much overlap between book and videos. The book is a formalization of my work and all the videos, aimed at a complete explanation of Reality. There will be new arguments, but also many old ones. The book is for people who have never found my channel. It also goes into very heavy epistemology and ontology. Price of book? No idea yet. It depends on whether I strike a deal with a publisher. If I go with publisher the book will be cheaper so it can sell more. If no publisher than more expensive because few copies will be sold. It is a serious book so I expect a more serious price of $30-40. A publisher will make it more like $20. It will probably be two volumes sold separately. I have also entertained making it extra pricey to weed out the unserious people. This is supposed to be a life-changing book so the price is really irrelevant. If I charge $1000 for it, it would still be worth every dollar. But it won't be anything that pricey.

@Ero I don't doubt what you are saying. But what you are saying is not acceptable in today's science/academic system. My point is simply that science needs to be more open to that kind of method.

The book writing is a bit more formal, not as casual. But not too formal or fancy. Similar to blog but better. It definitely feels like me. It has the Leo vibes. It is not as dry as say, Ralston's books. It will feel like I wrote it, not some generic AI.

This is like a chicken getting into the oven for the wolves. Haha

I don't know. It's impossible to count. I have been writing for myself and on the blog for a long time. But as far as pure book-writing experience, well, not much since I haven't written any books before. So it depends on what you want to count things. I don't really care about writing as a craft. I care about insights and ideas. Writing is just a way to deliver insights. I write in a direct and clear style without a bunch of fanciness. The challenge of the book is not in the writing, it's in the logical organization of all the insights. That was the real work, not the typing of the words. The words are not what matter. What matters is the order in which they deliver the insights so that everything makes holistic sense. On this front I reached mastery long ago thanks to making my videos. I am not trying to master the writing, I am trying to master the layout of the insights.

Hipsters who still buy vinyl records.

It is very readable. Of course that time does not include all the editing I will do later. But I write in such a clear style that you can read the rough draft and it all makes perfect sense. Can it be polished up more? Of course! That will involve a lot more time. Also, I don't write fluff. If it was written, it is important for the whole. I only make important points. If I was allowed to write fluff it would need to a million words long. 1000 pages is 1000 very dense, very condensed pages of content with zero fluff and even stuff left unsaid due to lack of space. Even in 1000 pages I won't be able to say everything I want to say. It's just not enough space for so much insight. You cannot turn all my videos into 1000 pages. It would not fit.