Leo Gura

Most animals struggle and fight to mate. The struggles of mating are nothing new. Mating is never guaranteed. You gotta earn it.

Hey, ya'll, I need your help! I want to create a comprehensive list of video examples of prototypical stage Orange thinking. This is not meant to humiliate or demonize stage Orange. It's meant to be an educational tool for people learning about Spiral Dynamics. So towards that end, scour Youtube and find all the videos you can which exhibit stage Orange thinking. Try to find videos which are short and sweet. The more diversity we can display here, the better. Try to find examples from various cultures: Europe, Middle East, Asia, Indonesia, Japan, Russia, Africa, South America, etc. We will create a mega-thread like this for every stage in the Spiral, from Red to Turquoise. But here, let's just focus on Orange. Each week I will start a new mega-thread topic for the next stage. Do not start a political debate in this thread! It is not our goal here to defend our personal political positions or to judge any stage, but simply to compile examples. Thanks for your help! I'm excited to see what kind of juicy stuff you dig up. Try to be selective with your choices. This can turn into a really cool list. List of Orange Values: Achievement, success, excellence Climb your way to the top Upward mobility Obsessed with being #1, be a winner Improving one’s own position in life Efficiency, progress, productivity, optimization Gaming the system, min-maxing, manipulation Creative exploitation Action, results, pragmatism Never-ending growth Capitalism, libertarianism Competitive marketplace Deregulation, denationalization Hard work, business, entrepreneurship Competition, winner-take-all Self-improvement Skills, knowledge, education Confidence, optimism, charisma Entertainment & showmanship Personal freedom, self-reliance, independence Free speech Money, sex, luxury Net worth Physical appearance, youth, sexiness, coolness Consumerism, conspicuous consumption Brands Pop culture, celebrities, social media Quarterly profits, mass market, sales Mass production, industry Rationality, logic, science, secularism, humanism Technology Materialism, reductionism, atheism, evolution Hard-nosed science, no New Age mumbo-jumbo Pragmatism, empiricism, skepticism No metaphysics Analysis “Facts” Data, analytics, models, quantify everything Science-based fact-based education Double-blind, peer-reviewed studies “Scientific method” IQ Strategic planning, risk analysis Innovation & creative thinking Results & the bottom-line matters most Maintaining a competitive edge Competence vs rank or bloodline Recognition, reward Win-win outcomes Stage Orange Examples: America, capitalism, emerging China, businessmen, CEOs, biz suits, corporate boardrooms, lawyers, Wall Street, Wolf of Wall Street, insider trading, Manhattan, hedge-fund managers, Goldman Sachs, Big pharma, Big oil, Big banks, tobacco companies, advertising, Fortune 500 companies, entrepreneurs, libertarians, Ayn Rand, professional sports, FIFA, NBA, Superbowl, sponsorship deals, fashion, Rolex, nightclubs, pickup, MOGTOW, redpill, bro culture, Republicans, Trump, trophy hunting, breast implants, plastic surgery, Botox, liposuction, pornography, Playboy, Hustler magazine, Hugh Hefner, Larry Flynt, strip clubs, Hollywood biz, supermodels, Silicon Valley, start-ups, venture capital, Bill Gates, Warren Buffet, casinos, theme parks, Carl Icahn, Koch Brothers, corporate raiders, Walmart, Amazon, Coca-Cola, McDonalds, Disney, Monsanto, Microsoft, GE, AT&T, IBM, Facebook, EA, micro-transactions, gamer culture, Enron, R&D, lobbyists, Dick Cheney, Halliburton, yuppies, internet, bodybuilding, Arnold, steroids, corrupt politicians, MBA programs, golf courses, fly fishing, anti-union laws, patent trolls, Western medicine, Larry Ellison, Steve Ballmer, Dave Rubin, Stefan Molyneux, outsourcing, deregulation, tax cuts, trickle down economics, payday loans, sweatshops, junk food, fast food, energy drinks, used car salesman, marketing, sales & PR, focus groups, television, reality TV, infomercials, game shows, CNN, MSNBC, liberal media, e-commerce, financial industry, software engineers, technical scientists, nuclear weapons, luxury yachts, private jets, personal helicopters, real estate tycoons, railroads, the Gilded Age, Robber Barons, Andrew Carnegie, Rockefeller, J.P. Morgan, William Hurst, Rupert Murdoch, Robert Mercer, technocrats, cocaine, alcohol, pop music, rock music, club music, rap music, trophy wife, gold-digger, oil drilling in Alaska, champagne & caviar, fancy restaurants, luxury resorts, cruise ships, mercenaries, Black Water, gated communities, mansions, video games, Success magazine, private prep schools, poker players, self-help industry, biz books, biz seminars, marketing seminars, Dan Kennedy, Tim Ferris, Tony Robbins, Tai Lopez, Brian Tracy, Michael Shermer, Richard Dawkins, Lawrence Krauss, Daniel Dennett, Sean Carroll, Stephen Hawking, Christopher Hitchens, consulting, success coaches, millionaire mindset, net worth, sports cars, Mercedes, BMW, Rolls Royce, Lamborghini, Ferrari, VIP, celebrities, paparazzi, Las Vegas, Cannes film festival, Aspen, Palm Springs, Hong Kong, Macau, Dubai, cost/benefit analysis, nerd culture, polyester clothing, PT Barnum, snake oil salesman, atheism, skepticism, separation of church & state, enlightenment values, “Western values”, Founding Fathers, Benjamin Franklin, Voltaire, Renaissance, Industrial Revolution, factories, Henry Ford, WTO, Ferengi, Kim Kardashian, Kanye West, Paris Hilton, Bernie Madoff, Paul Manafort, sex drugs & rock n roll, mid-life crises, malls, fashion shows, NASA, SpaceX, Elon Musk, for-profit universities, get-rich-quick schemes, online millionaires, Bitcoin, Forex, daytrading, utilitarianism, Logical Positivism, behaviorism, Darwinism, social media, gun rights, Ivy League universities, Harvard, Yale, Princeton, MIT, CalTech, military industrial complex: Lockheed Martin, Boeing, Northrup Grumman, Sigmund Freud, Harvey Weinstein, 2008 financial collapse, dot com bubble, Cubism, Abstract Expressionism, Surrealism, multi-level marketing, Viagra, DDT, asbestos, billboards, GMOs, cloning, human genome project, stem cell research, robotics, computers, birth control, sex education, all-you-can-eat buffet, karoshi: death thru overwork, Alex Jones, prosperity preachers, Howard Stern, South Park, The Simpsons, Family Guy, House Of Cards, Avatar, Boiler Room, Ray Kurzweil, Sam Harris

Stupidity is evergreen

No woman I dated cares about feminism. This is such a too-online issue.

How else could it be? Guys job is to hit on girls. No shame in that.

Orange Kangaroo?

Even if you are responsible it can still be hard to get laid. Responsibility isn't sexy.

Cringe? It is the more serious way to learn dating. Everything else is weak-sauce. Cringe is hating on women and then trying to get sex through online spam.

Bingo

Why this fixation on criticizing women when talking about learning dating? When I started pickup, the idea of criticizing women for my dating problems never even entered my mind. That is so weak and counter-productive. I simply learned the techniques and insights to increase my skill at dating. You won't get good at football by criticizing the other players.

I often speak loosely on this forum because this is not a techncial paper. I meant the later. I didn't change it, I just stated it more precisely. Not of course. A human can. Humans don't need 10 million examples to learn a point. AI does. A human teen can learn to drive from 20 hours of data. An AI still cannot drive after 10 billion hours of driving data. This isn't just a matter of degree, this is a difference in kind.

We cut it at the point where it is toxic masculinity. There is much in common between a Nazi and a non-Nazi, like eating breakfast and wearing shoes.

It is not my argument that LLMs have zero intelligence or merely spit out memorized data. LLMs do very sophisticated data processing. However, it will never get them to AGI without a totally new architecture that is not based on mass data processing. Intelligence is not just mass data processing.

No. This has been recently tested. They cannot code obscure languages with insuffucient coding examples. You guys love to accuse me of the very thing you are guilty of! Your position is not scientic nor empirical.

He is being extradited to UK.

Also known as a Tate.

Conor McGregor vs Kangaroo, UFC #748 on White House lawn, when? Joe Rogan: "OMG! That kangaroo just ended Conor McGregor's career with a flying kick!!! It's all over folks. Conor McGregor is dead!"

Not even close. You guys have such absurd views of me. If I was psychotic, you can't even imagine how bad I would be. A psychedelic trip is not psychosis. It can be, but usually it isn't. But also, I am not against psychosis per se. Watch out for demonizing psychosis. It's best not to even talk about psychosis if you are going to be that sloppy about it. Calling people you disagree with psychotic is the laziest trick there is. Just because I say something you dislike doesn't make me psychotic. It just means I have a different point of view. Can psychedelics make you unhinged? Sure. Especially if you do them every day for weeks and months.

Spiritual people tend to have lower sex drives. Otherwise they'd be out screwing all day.

No attack. Just truth.

Dudes, I don't even follow soccer. I have no idea what the ranking are, who the players are, none of that.

I can't read every post on this forum. And even if I could, I can't force everyone to agree with my view.

You got the wrong girl. Natasha eats kangaroos.

But I put Spain first in the list. Accident? I think not.