Leo Gura

It's both. Trump appeals to two different groups of people: Stage Blue religous fools Stage Orange capitalist libertarian power-hungry, egotistical, narcissitic, greedy, sex-hungry, masculine-hungry materialistic wolves They just like him because he tells them what they want to hear. Fascism is all appeal to base emotions and needs.

"Really on fire for Jesus", Lol. These Christians are so full of shit.

Haha, that's even worse. This is like, "I disagree with some of Hitler's policies. Like when he gave free school lunches to the Nazi youth." That's criticizing Trump for doing the responsible thing any normal President would do. Criticism from below not above. The criticism from above is that Trump was too slow and negligent in taking action on Covid, and fueling anti-vax conspiracy theories.

The only reason he tried to back out of it is because the market crashed and he wanted it cheaper. The bot thing was just an excuse he made up and it was such a poor excuse his own lawyers told him to pay up without even going to trial.

Don't bullshit us. Everything I said is valid. Go read the accounts and evidence. It's all there and more.

Trump is worse, Trump is more immature and flawed. But Musk has a massive ego. Owen also has a massive ego. The more massive the ego, the more appealing Trump looks. Massive ego doesn't necessarily mean evil or criminal. It can manifest in less severe ways.

Those are stupid hypotheticals. In realty political violence backfires. It is antithetical to democracy. You cannot preserve democracy that way. Healthy democracy requires rule of law.

He files firvolous lawsuits. He lies. He refuses to pay employees and rent for Twitter HQ. He does sexual harassment. He attempted to reneg on his agreement to buy Twitter under BS reasons. And that's just the stuff we publicly know about. There's plenty more we don't know about. You don't get to Musk's level by playing nice. You crush those who stand in your way. One of the reasons Musk is anti-Biden is as revenge for Biden not inviting Musk to a meeting about EVs. Musk is an egotist just as much as Trump. Which is why he supports him.

No. It is not reasonable and it should be denounced. We are not facists. They are. We will not stoop to the level of facists.

No! Engineering genius cannot make you the world's richest man.

Musk is immature. His intelligence is limited to success achieved through cold-blooded ruthlessness. The reason Musk is so rich and powerful is because he is ruthless and shameless. That's how one attains power in America. Being immoral is not a bug, it's a feature in the Orange corporate world. If Musk cared about morality and fairness he could not be as rich, powerful, and famous as he is. Musk's #1 priority is his own power. That distorts his intelligence.

I guarantee it. They would have been angry, but they would be powerless. MAGA is totally powerless without Trump in office. It doesn't matter what MAGA does. What matters is if Trump holds legal office. You shouldn't be worried about Trump losing. You should be worried about Trump winning.

Notice something, everyone who is an egotist has a soft spot for Trump. This includes Owen, Musk, and many business executives. What they findamentally like about Trump is that he is a mirror of their own narcissism, manipulations, exploits, and will to power. What most rich and powerful people have in common is an outrageous sense of entitlement, self-importance, and will to power. Trump is their avatar. If Trump is wrong, they are wrong, which they cannot admit. In this sense Trump perfectly represents the profound problems of excessive Stage Orange. Anyone who is stuck in excess Orange will think Trump is great and admirable. Which is most of the business community and of course the pickup community. How else could a guy who chases women for 20 years think?

In this case failing is far worse because Trump will double down his revenge against anyone who opposes him, if he is reelected.

This makes him and his Christian Nationalist supporters all the more dangerous. When the assassintion on Hitler failed, he used it to proclaim himself saved by God and that God endorsed his devil ways. That's exactly what MAGA will do, making them even more blind with zealotry.

When the shoe fits.

Excuse me! I made my fortune selling dicks.com

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Maybe he was resentful that Trump grabbed his mother by the pussy.

At that age he was probably less politcal and more depressed and mentally ill. The ultimate RHINO.

Sure, if you consider Elon Musk a nobody. Musk has 150M+ followers on Twitter to who he was posting nonsense about Paul Pelsoi.

It is illuminating when you recall that just a few years ago right-wingers were laughing and blaming the victim when Nancy Pelosi's husband was attacked with a hammer by a MAGA lunatic. Elon Musk was out there spreading conspiracy theories and jokes about it.

He's way more than a mirror. He is a devil stirring the shit.

Right-wing Rep Steve Scalese was shot by a left-winger not too long ago. So it does happen. There can certainly be unhinged and mentally-ill left-wingers. It only takes one.

Which is why no reasonable person on the left calls for violence against political opponents. We are trying to defeat Trump through an election. That has always been the game.