Leo Gura

Because it's God and Love. Those people are clueless. God is so God that once you experience it, you won't want to call it anything else. Truly, I only require one word to explain everything. GOD.

Hey, ya'll, I need your help! I want to create a comprehensive list of video examples of prototypical stage Blue thinking. This is not meant to humiliate or demonize stage Blue. It's meant to be an educational tool for people learning about Spiral Dynamics. So towards that end, scour Youtube and find all the videos you can which exhibit stage Blue thinking. Try to find videos which are short and sweet. Conservative talk show hosts offer tons of Blue material, but also try to find other unique examples. The more diversity we can display here, the better. Try to find examples from various cultures: Europe, Middle East, Asia, Indonesia, Japan, Russia, Africa, South America, etc. We will create a mega-thread like this for every stage in the Spiral, from Red to Turquoise. But for now, let's just focus on Blue. Each week I will start a new mega-thread topic for the next stage. Do not start a political debate in this thread! It is not our goal here to defend our personal political positions or to judge any stage, but simply to compile examples. Thanks for your help! I'm excited to see what kind of juicy stuff you dig up. Try to be selective with your choices. This can turn into a really cool list. Stage Blue values: Absolute truth cannot be questioned Only one right way to live Belief, faith, certainty Objective right & wrong Good & evil exist The devil is real Hard work, discipline, duty Law & order Justice, stability, security Sinners deserve punishment & no compassion Hierarchy, social order, status quo Patriarchy, women serve men Meaning & greater purpose Morality Defending one's culture Culture, tradition, heritage Crusading for a righteous cause Serving God Theology Root out the heretics & traitors Doctrine, ideology Orthodoxy, dogma, conformity Family, family values Obedience, reverence Respect for elders God & country Patriotism Righteous living Honor, principles, moral codes of conduct Good manners, decency, etiquette Finds profanity offensive, blasphemy Dress & hair regulations Prayer Pride in one’s civilization: we are the best Canonical texts cannot be questioned: Bible, Quran, Torah, Gita, Constitution, Upanishads, Vedas, Buddha Holy book is the literal word of God Strict literal reading of holy books Obeying authority: Pope, Muhammad, Allah, God, Christ, Buddha, Confucius, etc. Afterlife, heaven, hell, salvation are real Strict church attendance Ceremony, rituals Sobriety, chastity, virginity, anal self-control, restraint Charity, giving back to my community Loyalty Enforcing borders Building character & moral fiber National identity Cultural superiority Stage Blue Examples: Middle East, Palestinians, Zionists, Saudi Arabia, Medieval Europe, Iran, Pakistan, Indian caste system, Puritanism, Confucian China, Islamic fundamentalism, Wahhabism, Hasidic Judaism, the Salvation Army, patriotism, standing for the National Anthem, Zen monastery, Catholic Church, evangelicals, religious Right, Conservatives, Republicans, Boy Scouts & Girl Scouts, Sharia law, banning birth control, banning abortion, banning flag burning, border wall, anti-immigration, witch trials, Crusades, Roy Moore, Alt-Right, neo-Nazis, white supremacists, KKK, Noah’s Ark read literally, Ten Commandments, uniforms, Catholic nuns, Amish, Shakers, The Bible-belt, American South, The Moral Majority, Newt Gingrich, Billy Graham, Rev Jerry Falwell, James Dobson, Pat Robertson, George W Bush, Mike Pence, gay conversion therapy, kamikaze pilots, Samurai Code, harakiri, Marathon Monks of Mt Hiei, Hindu religion, Hindu family, Islamic family, Mormons, Creationism, the war on Christmas, Bill O’Reily, Glenn Beck, Rush Limbaugh, Alex Jones, Fox News, 2nd Amendment, mandatory military service, codes of honor, virginity pledges, nationalism, Victorian England, military families, police officers, firefighters, blue collar workers, Nazi managers & generals, ethos of Starship Troopers, religious terrorism, Spanish Inquisition, imperialism, missionaries, Spanish conquistadors, Magellan, Hare Krishnas, soldier jumps on grenade, theocracy, prayer in school, Communist China, colonial South, Imperial Japan, patriarchy, culture warriors, right-wing talk shows, Romulans from StarTrek, TV evangelists, Bible school, colonial duels, Maoist China, 20th century Marxism, holy war, battles over holy ground, grand cathedrals temples & mosques, protect children from sexual corruption, killing apostates, imprisoning homosexual, unequal women’s rights, prayer in school, sanctity of marriage, Japanese tea ceremony, country music, war on drugs, Ben Shapiro, NASCAR, hunting, confederate flag, Sarah Palin, John McCain, Tucker Carlson, Fox & Friends, Mitch McConnell, Paul Ryan, Jeff Sessions, Ann Coulter, Ben Carson, Breitbart News, Steve Bannon, Brexit, Hitler, Mao, Mussolini, Rodrigo Duterte, caning in Singapore, death penalty, segregation, Jim Crow laws, whining about reverse racism, etc.

Pure Consciousness does not mean God was realized.

I find that very suss.

@aurum Exactly.

No. He is intelligent enough to understand what God points to.

@Carl-Richard It's all just atoms and shit.

Giving an addict a bunch of money could actually hurt him. How much drugs is he gonna buy with that cash? I hope he has kicked his addictions by now but I doubt it. If he is stressed from this fire, this will make a relapse more likely.

Time to get some Red examples going up in here. Try to find some healthy ones too. Red is all too easy to demonize. List of Stage Red Values: Personal power, strength, might, brute force Displays of toughness Brazen courage, valor, heroism, daring Being the boss, being #1, winning at all costs Conquering one’s enemies, domination The thrill of conquest Warrior mentality, a glorious death, heroic deeds Competitive, crush your opponents Resolving disputes with ruthless force Winning, victory, conquest, triumph against odds Ambition, playing it big Revenge Respect Loyalty Decisiveness, assertiveness Passion, action Pragmatic, direct, no-nonsense Taking initiative & ownership, personal willpower Getting things done, just do it Unilateral control, executive power Glitz, ostentatious displays, grandiosity Wants to be bigger than life Status, recognition of prowess Machismo, pride, bragging Charisma, plain talk Intimidation, manipulation, exploitation Sexual conquest & exploitation Sex as power and vanity, sadistic sex Enjoying life to the fullest Adventure, thrill-seeking, living boldly Power contests, like slapping/arm-wrestling Breaking rules, finding loop holes Breaking with the pack & pushing the envelope Stage Red Examples: Trump, Saddam Hussein, Iraq, Syria, Hitler, Stalin, Liberia, Somalia, North Korea, Myanmar, Turkmenistan, Haiti, Africa, Middle East, Palestine, warlords, mafia, Tony Soprano, Al Capone, pirates, marauders, gangs, Yakuza, violent prisoners, prison culture, freedom fighters, revolutionaries, criminals, rapists, con artists, thieves, terrorists, juvenile delinquents, ancient Rome, gladiator combat, Caligula, Nero, Roman emperors, spartan, Chinese emperors, Japanese emperors, Alexander the Great, Achilies, Klingons, hackers, toxic narcissists, sociopaths, psychopaths, lone shooters, Conan the Barbarians, Joe Pesci from Casino, Russian mob, toxic masculinity / Red Pill, vikings, Genghis Khan, Mongol hordes, drug addicts, gamblers, criminal underground, war criminals, massacres, torture, rape gangs, wild rock stars, Jules from Pulp Fiction, Joffery from GoT, Ramsey from GoT, Cersie from GoT, Dothraki from GoT, the Joker, cult leaders like Jim Jones & Charles Manson, David Koresh, Aztec human sacrifice, pimps, hustlers, prostitutes, sex trafficking, brothels, strippers, porn stars, violent porn, snuff films, king’s harems, absolute monarchs, feudalism, heads on pikes, Vlad the Impaler, crucifixion, cutting off body parts, cruel & unusual punishment, villains in movies, bullies, colonial exploitation, sweat shops, slavery, wild west, Terminator, Rambo, throwing objects when angry, cocaine, heroine, crack, meth users, suicide bombers, lesser Jihad, ISIS, domestic violence, MMA / UFC, boxing, Mike Tyson, Don King, Connor McGregor, bank robbers, the tyrannical boss, bribery, bling, gold teeth & chains, the hood, drive-by shootings, bloodsport, cock fighting, dog fighting, animal cruelty, sports fights, pro wrestling, movie Lord of War, Alex Jones, L Ron Hubbard, David Miscavige, 9/11, Oklahoma City bombing, some incels, some pickup, Jeffy rape van, Kanye dragon energy, rap music, heavy metal music, punk music, Mexican drug cartels, El Chapo, Grand Theft Auto game, graffiti, No Country For Old Men, Old Testament, Sith from Star Wars, Fight Club, A Clockwork Orange, Dan Pena, hunting homeless people for sport, Black Panthers, KKK, Machiavelli, women as property

@Terell Kirby Survival must happen either way and survival always involves work. So the question is what you will be working towards: either your values or a corrupt capitalist devil's values. Even monks clean toilets for some headmaster most of the day. Business is basically inescapable. If I could escape all business, I happily would.

That is the whole problem. He doesn't grasp God. That is why he is resorting to these word games.

That's not all. That's a stupid thing to bother rejecting. A man of Osho's intellect should know better than to be rejecting a strawman.

You don't know that.

No

I used to believe that but no longer. If they reject the word, then I will reject their realization. That is my new policy. No. Not even close to what I mean. You don't know that. Perhaps reasonable, but false.

Well, it does suck to deal with that nasty mess and lose your equipment. But he did not lose a house, which is a whole nother level of suck.

Too cute by half.

Sorry, not buying it. There is no other word for God but God. I refuse to accept that anyone who is allergic to the word because of history is actually conscious of God, because if he was, he would not object to the word. You don't throw away a perfect word just because some idiots used it incorrectly in the past. Osho speaks of God as if he doesn't understand what it is.

First time I hear this phrase.

He distinguishes between mind and Consciousness/Reality/Being. So when he says mind doesn't exist it is like saying the human self doesn't exist. He is speaking from the Absolute perspective. Ralston does not use "mind" in the same way I do. His notion of mind is not infinite.

So he was renting? It isn't even his house? And he doesn't have money to rent elsewhere? Strange.

What caused the fire?? Didn't he have house insurance to cover this?

It is hard to describe because no doctor understands such issues. Some kind of inflammation of the brain. You can easily avoid it by lowering your doses and not using psychedelics daily. I see no reason why it would.

Let's get a thread going that showcases the deep intelligence of survival in nature. This helps people see the intelligence and sneakiness of survival in the human realm. Try to post examples not merely of survival, but the intelligent, deceptive, and sneaky nature of survival.

When they gossip about elites eating babies, they mean this guy. Is there any doubt this guy would eat a baby to make himself feel younger?