Leo Gura

I don't think there are karma points. The universe doesn't keep score of what you do. However, you might regret harming yourself. So that's not to be taken lightly. The point is that higher consciousness can reduce suffering and increase satisfaction with life. Although it can take a lot of work to reach that point. If you have reached a suicidal point, I would definitely suggest trying a hardcore spiritual practice first because maybe you will have some breakthrough that changes how you experience life. Similar to Eckhart Tolle's biography. He was suicidal and turned around to have a good life. Unfortunately chronic health problems can be very serious and seriously affect quality of life. I have struggled with that and it can feel like you're trapped.

Because that means your ideals are out of touch with reality. Don't assume your ideals are valid. That is an open question.

@gengar You have a unique medical situation so my generic advice may not suit you. Pretty much. Look, if you don't find it appealing, don't do it. Do whatever appeals to you. God is not for everyone. Most people don't want it. Remember that these are niche teachings that most of the world does not care about. You have to find what you care about in life. Just because I care about certain things doesn't mean you should. Sounds like what you need it not hardcore spirituality but some basic self-help, success, and good feelings. It's hard to get a struggling person to do advanced spirituality/philosophy because you have more pressing emotional issues to resolve. I suggest you look for solutions to those issues before you concern yourself with God. Keep in mind the context of this thread. A wealthy guy trapped in decadence, not a guy like you who is struggling to get by.

This doesn't contradict my point. Of course basic self-help provides value to people. Tony Robbins provides value. But he is at the center of the corruption of that field. The point of my post was to point out how the field is corrupt, not to pick on Mel per se. She is part of a much larger pattern that is clear there. I didn't make it up. It it worse than people know. I try to find videos to point out what I already know from the inside.

I like bold reforms short of revolution. Revolution is simply counter-productive. But I am also very realistic so I know that bold progressive reforms will pretty much fail. If I am centrist it's because I am forced into accepting political realities, not that it's my preferred view. For example, I would like to see action on climate change, but I know it's not going to happen.

@Thought Art I agree that the video I posted isn't a strong example of her corruption. I should have looked for a stronger video. I'm pretty confident it could be found.

@Magnanimous Of course you can and should enjoy whatever fruits of your labor. The problem is that people get lost, trapped in survival/materialism. They start to compromise higher values like truth to acquire material things that won't make them happy anyway, and then they start bullshitting themselves and others about it. Corruption slowly sets in. Survival is important, but not to excess. It's the difference between eating for energy vs gluttony. Aubrey is rationalizing sexual gluttony. That's the bottom line here.

Mystical experiences are real, but then humans layer a bunch of self-serving BS on top of that. Aubrey Marcus -style.

Pure understanding is not the only thing at stake here. There is also Beauty, Goodness, Consciousness, God, Love, Health. All of that is at stake. But if you don't care about any of that, then spirituality is not for you.

How ironic that Destiny said that on video. If you're going to coach soldiers on not recording their war crimes, maybe don't record yourself. *Picard face-palm*

I disagree with your framing that I am paving some special "destructive path". You just can't predict how your path will unfold. The path is simply one of pursuing truth and consciousness, wherever that leads. Shit on your carpet is hardly a problem in the grand scheme of things. What's worth it for me is understanding ultimate reality. What's worth it is higher consciousness. But since most people do not care about understanding, I cannot say if it will be worth it for you. The point of this work is Consciousness itself. To develop a deep connection to the beauty of Consciousness. It takes a special kind of mind to appreciate that. If you prefer to live like an animal then it probably won't be worth it.

Great!

The studies you cite don't seriously challenge what I said. Like I said, find identical twins born with 70 IQ and cancer. Cancer late in life is very different from cancer in childhood. The existence of genetics freaks throws of these ChatGPT ideas in the trash.

Yes, I understand. Money, sex, fame, luxury is very alluring. It's how the Devil ensnares you, gets you to compromise on your higher values like truth, justice, morality, consciousness. The answer is three-fold: 1) Authentic spirituality is just hard. There's a good reason why its so rare and revered. Placing truth above every other value requires super-human courage and discipline. This cannot be made easy. You are choosing the hard life rather than the fun life. 2) With Awakening/God-Realization, your connection to God can become so profound that it gives you more joy than any materialist rewards like sex, money, and luxury vacations. So it's about building a really deep, serious connection/consciousness of God that makes all the Devil's enticements pale in comparison. But this level of connection is really hard to reach, requiring lots of sacrifice and work. 3) You can burn through some of your desires by pursuing them. Go have some sex, go make some money, go take some luxury vacations just to realize that you will still be left unsatisfied. The allure of the Devil's rewards start to lose its appeal once you've had enough of them. Eventually you realize the Devil's rewards are fool's gold and you start to crave real gold, which only God can give. Eventually you start wanting God more than you want luxury vacations to Egypt or threesome sex. How much threesome sex do you need to have before you realize that God is better? Well... if you're Aubrey, probably never. So here we are The more money, fame, and sex you have, the harder it will be to throw it all away for God.

There is a deep connection because wealth is usually acquired and maintained through untruthful, corrupt, selfish, unconscious means. It's really hard to earn $100M through conscious honest hard work. That kind of money usually comes from corruption, and it also corrupts the people who hold that kind of money. That kind of money certainly affects your spirituality. Spirituality is a battle against survival, corruption, and dishonesty. Rich people are in the habit of placing survival over truth. If you didn't place survival over truth, you would never get $100M.

The ego is extremely sneaky in its ways of survival. The ego uses polyamory as a way to broaden its search for the best partners, then once it finds the best one, it tries to ditch polyamory and go exclusive with the best it thinks it can find. But after a few years it gets bored or thinks it can find something even better. This is what's happening with Aubrey. He's jumping between poly and mono as it suits him. But then he rationalizes this egoic materialistic survival behavior as spiritual and divinely inspired. That's what's so offensive about what Aubrey is doing. He's trying to get away with calling selfish, materialistic behavior highly spiritual. But truly spiritual people don't want to buy this BS he's selling. To be truly spiritual is to transcend this materialistic chasing. But that doesn't fit Aubrey's philosophy that spirituality is supposed to be fun, exciting, and hip. He wants to be spiritual but also run around and have sex with whoever he happens to like that month. It's a sick, billionaire's idea of spirituality. It's like, how can I be spiritual but still keep my big luxury yacht full of servants and prostitutes? This is why I can at least respect Zen Buddhism. They are serious about a spartan lifestyle. When rich & famous people get their hands on spirituality they want to marry it with their luxurious lifestyle -- which is bullshit. Real spirituality requires surrendering luxury and materialistic decadence, not rationalizing. Running around having sex with random people is not spiritual. What's spiritual is surrendering that lifestyle to sit alone in a broom closet contemplating God. But you can't share that on Instagram. It's no fun. This is a great example of the sophistication and craftiness of self-deception.

You can think of ego as a survival complex. Collectives have a survival complex as much as individuals do.

Yes. Just stop making all these spiritual rationalizations for it, and stop proposing to people.

Sounds like his whole company is a giant sex network. How much sex with each other can all these people have? It's like if everyone on this forum was having sex with each other and calling it eros energy.

There's no contradiction. You can end this life and then dream you are Hitler, or a kangaroo. As far as solipsism goes, we've discussed this to death. Either you are conscious that you are dreaming everything and everyone, or you are not. You're not going to sit there and logically figure that out.

I only send my AI dick pics.

You are not looking at identical twins with bad genetics. Find a genetic twin with 70 IQ and cancer.

Writing for someone as pigheaded as him is a mistake. But yes, materialism will be deconstructed.

You not being a chimpanzee is just a limiting belief, bro.

I said it's more intelligent than many humans. Not more intelligent than an outstanding human. You should not use AI to create revolutionary work.