Leo Gura

Yes, but humans don't really get that and can't really live it.

Good for you. You have some integrity.

At this point it certainly won't change Hamas behavior, however, it will create a pathway to a peace settlement longer term. There is a larger issue at stake here than simply getting Hamas to stop attacking. You have to pacify the Palestinian people and give them a pathway to peace and prosperity. The way to deal with Hamas is simply by erecting better defenses. Which you'll have to do anyway from all the bombing.

I am well aware of Martin's philosophy. I think it's a bit reckless and unnecessary, but ultimately it's a matter of style. I literally don't remember a single hug, but I had a pretty good childhood for sure. Do what you gotta do.

Interesting. Didn't know anyone still cared about him. He was pretty remarkable as a human.

Be careful with this freedom value. It's easy to turn freedom into a fantasy. Real freedom is different from what humans usually call freedom.

But Gaza is not allowed statehood status. Just last week there was a UN vote to recognize Palestine as a state and the Israeli government went ape-shit, calling the vote a travesty and banning EU diplomats. With that kind of approach, of course terrorists will keep attacking you. It's like yanking on a crocodile's tail. This has been going on for decades.

Not personal development. But my pursuit of truth, yes.

Don't wish harm on others. This is not the way.

Yeah, but be careful. I don't suggest you go too deep into that. I was just trying to open your minds, not to turn you into demons.

Osho was pretty popular. But the most popular stuff is never the best.

That's not interesting. No The point is that if you can imagine it deeply enough, Consciousness can imagine it even more. Somewhere inside God's Mind, the mind of a demon exists. I am not saying it exists in the human domain. God is all possible minds. Consider the possibility that the only thing that prevents you from experiencing being a demon is your lack of imagination.

Nothing hilarous about it. You get to set your own point. I set my point as understanding. I don't care about your bliss. If you care about it, good for you. But don't tell me what I care about. Eventually you will realize that all the bliss in the world still left gaps in your understanding.

@Water by the River It is possible to seek spiritual pleasure. And what I said is that I don't promote that. I don't regard you as seeking spiritual pleasure. Bliss could refer to pleasure, or maybe not. People use words in different ways.

But discipline most requires you to act precisely when you are in a soft, sloppy state, when you are least capable. If your discipline depends on your mood then it won't be very good.

So what? That doesn't address the elephant in the room, which is Zionist domination of Gaza. The longer you ignore that elephant and make rationalizations for it, the more terrorists will be created. I am trying to help you guys. But no one can save you from yourselves.

Of course. But that is very different from pleasure-seeking, including spiritual pleasure-seeking. Notice, my work has never taught spiritual pleasure-seeking, because that's obviously a trap. As I said, pleasure is a nice byproduct when occassionally it comes. And I enjoy those moments but I don't make the work about that.

Playing with crocodiles: that's a trap. Didn't even occur to me that people can be that foolish. But I guess there is no limit to human foolishness.

Why do you assume hippies aren't devils? My last girlfriend was a New Age hippie type. Sweet, but also full of devilry. You should know that the devil loves to wear the disguise of a sweet young hippie chick.

No, just simply a truth few wish to see.

It has nothing to do with bliss or pleasure. It is simply about degree of consciousness. Ken Wilber's comprehension of consciousnes is good, but still limited. I don't care about pleasure, I care about Consciousness. Any pleasure that comes about is a nice byproduct, but ultimately irrelevant. Ironically, it is meditators and Buddhists who love to talk about sitting around basking in bliss. When they should be talking about Consciousness.

Notice, when you point out your finger, three fingers point back at you. That's the issue. Neither are demon minds. But maybe they should be. God is always watching.

All of your Enlightenments and you still cannot account for the simple mind of a crocodile. This is why I cannot take your Buddhism seriously.

No they weren't. They were devils, just like everyone else. While Gaza was being oppressed and dominated for decades, 5 miles away Jews were partying at a music festival without a care in the world. Devilry takes many subtle forms. Deny it at your own peril. Your own fancy quotes betray you. If the line of good and evil runs through every man, then why do you do so much demonizing of terrorists? Follow your own fancy quotes.

You don't know that. You created a human spiritual fantasy about how consciousness works. Your grand theory is infested with human bias and lack of imagination.