Leo Gura

I am working on both fronts, up and down. And if I discover in the end that down was better to up, I will let you know.

Well said.

Yes, this is the fundamental problem with capitalism, it actually rewards some of the easy and less important jobs while underpaying the most important ones like school teachers and other kinds of helper roles. It's twisted that a Hollywood actor makes $50 million of 3 months work while the teachers of their children earn $60k/yr.

I did, but I'm refreshed at the moment.

@Aaron p My pleasure.

A Purple caveman can be enlightened or awake. Spiral level is independent of enlightenment or awakening.

Of course!

I did not have a precise timestamp to know. Just let it go.

Both Trump threads have been merged. Sorry @Hardkill I merged them in the wrong order. I wanted to keep your original thread but the merging interface on this forum software works backwards.

"Have" is just a figure of speech. You are consciousness. And consciousness has degrees. If I was a kangaroo, yeah, I would not have a desire for higher consciousness. What's sad is that most humans don't utilize that desire even though they are one of the few animals on this planet capable of such desire. Isn't it obvious to you that the only reason humans were able to build a civilzation, while none of the other animals did, was because we have higher consciousness than them? Humans are more intelligent because we are more conscious. A donkey does not have enough consciousness to build a rocket ship. I can't believe I have to explain this to so-called enlightened people. You actually believe that aliens are not any more conscious than humans. You're not being serious.

Varying your chems can help. Deeper contemplation can help. For me it came quickly.

Law and Order! Lock him up!

Psychedelics + contemplation

Yes you can. He will still run, even moreso because it's his only way to avoid prison.

Wow

Not at all.

I don't see you appreciating any aliens but rather mocking and dismissing those who do.

It's hard to say who understands what.

Let's all live on the moon while we're at it.

Wrestle a crocodile under a flowering cherry tree.

Say more if you want help.

Mathematicians are even worse. But nondualists are in a league of their own.

@Water by the River You are like a broken record. You are like a scientist who goes around say, "A woman?! That's just atoms! An alien?! That's just atoms. All I care to know is atoms! The suchness of that underlies everything." But you actually have no understanding or appreciation of a woman or an alien. And yet, ironically, you are stuck in that human body and mind, spinning on repeat.

Now that I think of it, reduction of morality could itself be another reductionist trap. You could formulate morality in a much high-caliber, more positive, more visionary way as: Being of highest service to Consciousness/Love. Instead of merely reducing harm to other, this formulation of morality means you take on a proactive role is being of service to the whole Universe, whatever that entails. Of course all this assumes you have a very clean and deep connection to Consciousness/God, not just some human spiritual act. It could only be done by the wokest and most developed humans. So the problem with this formulation is that it's totally beyond the normal human. It would require Awakening and much more.

When you are ultra-Woke