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It's silly. The kid asked for suicide advice. That means he was already suicidal. ChatGPT did not make him suicidal. Any tool can be abused to harm oneself if one so desires. That is not the tool's fault.
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Rat box for thee but not for me.
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Leo Gura replied to rudirotbart's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
No it doesn't. Look at Trump or Musk. The more their ego is fed the more it grows. Real spirituality requires practices that go against the ego. That is the point. This is the reason why fake spirituality is so popular. The point of that episode was to help you avoid the trap of fake spirituality which keeps the ego entact. It would be wise of you consider why I say the things I say. There is always a higher purpose behind it. -
Leo Gura replied to rudirotbart's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Notice you are horrified at the idea of undoing the ego-self. That's exactly why I framed it that way. Because who is horrified and why is it so horrifying? Because the ego-self is attached to survival. So, serious spirituality is about unraveling this survival tendency of the self. The reason I frame it so starkly is because otherwise the ego will corrupt spirituality by turning it into spiritual-flavored survival. I framed it starkly to avoid the issue of ego corrupting spirituality, as it always does. If the ego is affraid, that good. That means real spirituality is happening. If the ego is comfortable and happy, that means fake spirituality is happening. -
Leo Gura replied to rudirotbart's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
@rudirotbart You frame it as "destroy" but that is not what annihilation has to mean. Annihilation literally means to make null. That is the aim of meditation. -
It's as if Musk wants everyone to live in a rat box.
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Leo Gura replied to rudirotbart's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
God created this dream. And the point of spirituality is that you are sick of dreams and games and wish to wake up. Yes, it goes against life, so to speak. The self is an illusory identity. The reason it is being annihilated is to trade the finite self for Infinity. -
Leo Gura replied to Mellowmarsh's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
God is not a belief. You are it and you can know yourself. -
Leo Gura replied to Wiz's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Hi hi. Yes. I am saying that. That's the intelligent thing to do. It won't collapse because only you will be enlightened, no one else. And also you will still survive post enlightenment. Well, in that case I suggest you get very rigorous in measuring the benefits of meditation to you. If it doesn't offer you tangible benefits then stop wasting time on it. Meditation may offer practical benefits like calming your negative emotions. But it may not. Really depends on you. -
No. Since that is exactly what the human ego wants. I said things as needed to be said to make the points that mankind deliberately overlooks. Mankind is missing Love and mankind is missing the evils of Zionism. Mankind is not missing the demonization of Hitler. So I don't need to beat that dead horse.
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@Inliytened1 You are conflating absolute and relative matters. I shouldn't have to explain this to you.
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Leo Gura replied to Wiz's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
@Wiz Look at this way: Meditation is designed to kill you. If you like that idea, that's the reason to meditate. Otherwise carry on with your monkey games. Meditation is for those who are sick of playing games. -
Leo Gura replied to Wiz's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Of course the point of true spirituality is to obstruct your survival. Spirituality makes survival harder. Yes, spirituality makes you not care about living or dying. That is the point. Humans are survival zombies. Most of the stuff humans do they would not do if they were conscious, including having children, starting businesses, making money, and making art. You are like Elon Musk asking, "But if I do meditation then why would I need to go to Mars?" The answer is: your idea of going to Mars is stupid. You just don't realize it yet. "But I really need to go to Mars!" Yes, you are stupid enough that perhaps only death can cure you. The point of meditation is that nothing in life matters but meditation because everything else is a silly dream. Do normies need meditation? No. It won't work anyway because it is being done too shallowly. -
Do you really think I would defend Hitler's war crimes if I knew about them? Come on man. You are better than this kind of logic. Wake up.
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Of course the lowest caste is the majority. Society is always organized as a pyramid scheme. A small minority is always exploiting a vast majority. This is true in every society for all of human history. It must be this way otherwise it could not be sustainable. There is good reason why pyramid schemes are pyramids and not spheres. You can only live in palace when you got thousands of bodies to milk.
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Of course in his mind it feels like good intentions. That doesn't mean you sit by and defend Hitler's genocide as it is happening. Trump and Musk also think they are doing good. So what? That doesn't mean they are right. You can understand that someone is acting out of good intentions and still oppose him. Osama Bin Laden was acting out of good intentions. But I would still bomb him if I could.
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I never said Hitler was good. That's your twisted reconstruction. Isn't it obvious to you how much bias you have on this issue? Why act it out? Why are you defending atrocious Zionist behavior? There is no need for it. Why allow bias to cloud your view of reality so much? It's not worth it.
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You have to socialize with many other girls. Never place your hope is some girl who barely even cares you exist. This is your wake-up call to change your lifestyle to a more social one. I know the pain, but it comes from a fantasy. You don't need a girl to enjoy life. In fact, you will get sick of that girl and crave freedom. You can be at peace without that girl, but you built up such a potent fantasy of her in your mind that what I say doesn't seem true. The mind is very powerful at spinning these illusions. The sooner you realize that the happier you will be. There are a thousand other girls you can have intimacy with. Don't get hung up on her.
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I recommend both, but if you are young hold off on psychedelics till you are more mature.
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Think of what you are saying. You are rationalizing the murder of tens of thousands of civilians. A thing that is totally unnecessary. The only reason it is happening is for purposes of ethnic cleansing. You are rationalizing war crimes.
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There is no hate. Your view on this topic has been compromised from day one. I have no dog in this race. Never have. I'm just a neutral observer. If Hitler was still alive he would be taking notes from Netanyahu.
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People are too lazy to do epistemic work.
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So, I decided to focus my consciousness on understanding and experiencing insanity. And then I broke through into an actual domain of insanity. Spent about an hour there. You really have no idea what consciousness is until you've experienced insanity.
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Thanks. I'll look into the show.