Leo Gura

Your openmindedness and willingness to learn is commendable. But it is also true that you take it too far with basic questions that you should be able to answer for yourself. Don't be demoralized. I am trying to help you become more sovereign, which is the best thing for you. I am happy to answer questions, but make sure they are serious, important questions that you are unable to solve on your own.

In the absolute sense of course the good comes with the bad. But people can also improve. We are not asking Musk to be perfect or to change his past. Really all we are asking is for him to humble himself a bit and reflect on how his own egotism is hurting society. This is also something that would benefit his own spirit. Being an egotistical jackass is causing him needless pain.

The difference is I don't cry loudly when someone says I shouldn't use some offensive word. I understand why offensive words and ideas should be limited in public discourse, rather than acting like I am some noble freedom warrior who is being oppressed. Any mature person understands why slurs should be discouraged on social media. But perverts cannot comprehend such a thing.

There's a lot of shit we won't ever know. But it's irrelevant to the issue of Ukraine's international border.

That's a really powerful question. I don't have a good answer. But tolerating falsehood is not necessary. Falsehood should be challenged. We def can't ignore it or give him a pass. Nope. But it's important to keep the materialist perspective of value in the back of your mind because material survival conditions run the world. The real answer here is to distinguish where Musk is doing good and where he is doing bad. Making tech like cars and rockets is good. Corrupt politics, egotism, corrupting Twitter, dancing with Nazis is bad.

@Hardkill You want me to answer too many simple questions for you. You above everyone here need to think more for yourself. You have been spoiled with answers.

I don't deny the CIA was invovled. That's just irrelevant to Russia's invasion and conquest of Ukraine. KGB is also involved in many places. That doesn't mean America can now annex Georgia, Khazakstan, or Belorussia.

What choice do they have? That's why the CIA will not share anything of true importance with them.

An intellectually sloppy strawman.

I'm sure they do support him in general as long as he doesn't do something weird like side with China or Putin. But he is not a trustworthy person from the CIA's perspective because he cannot control himself.

But Musk is a highly unique figure. He's not a typical CEO. Without his investments there would not be a reusable rocket or electric cars we have now. But you have to weigh those 10 babies against the 100 lives saved by Tesla auto-pilot or auto-breaking, or lives save from less pollution on the roads, or Ukrainian lives saved in the war from Starlink internet. So I don't need to judge those babies because it's like an algebra equations, it cancels out.

The CIA would view him as a huge liability and mark, since he is so erratic, vain, egotistical, and unable to control his mouth. He's just the kind of guy you gather compromat on for blackmail or manipulate by feeding his ego what it wants to hear.

This is science fiction and speculation about so far in the future that it is both irrelevant and totally unknown. Crazy things will happen in 500 years, but it hardly matters to us today, nor it is useful to try to predict it.

That is true in general. But Musk doesn't just sit around collecting rent. He's actively making new useful tech. So your point fails for his case. Sure there is plenty of media hype and spin and BS fantasy. But the tech underneath it all is very real. And of course what I'm saying does not mean Musk personally invented everything. But he did put its creation into motion and financed it. He risked all his money to make it work. This is not an argument you want to make because it will apply to any human who did anything important or valuable. What if Leo had never existed? Some other guy would take his place. You can't hold that view consistently. As long as you want to give credit to people for anything, you gotta give him credit.

The Musk rabbithole of egotism and grossness seems bottomless:

Not so easy. His worth goes way beyond that. He's rich for a reason. He provides a lot of material value to people. Don't forget that. Just because he's a political pervert does not mean he doesn't provide serious value elsewhere. That is the paradoxical nature of people. Elon could murder 10 babies tomorrow on stage, and he would still have provided more net value to the world and to American society than anyone on this forum. That's the mindfuck of it that leftists do not comprehend in their drunken self-righteous socialist stupor. Musk is a disgusting egotistical character, but he also generates enormous material survival value. It's important that your worldview accounts for all this.

No. Think for yourselves. I am not going to spell out for you what to do. Reacting foolishly in a bad political environment is as bad as not reacting at all.

No. I am not hysterical. This was a statement of our political situation published on the date of an inauguration. Your posting is different and unproductive.

@Bobby_2021 I am not engaging with you any more on Ukraine or Russia or US foreign policy because your mind is skewed and closed.

This is BS. 1) Russia is the one trying to set up a lapdog government in Ukraine. They had agreement not to violate Ukraine's international borders. 2) Ukraine is a sovereign nation. They can change their langauge however they want. It is not Lavrov's place to tell Ukraine what culture or language Ukraine should have. Can you imagine invading another nation because you disagree with their language policy? That is insane. This is Russian gaslighting.

That is not safe. That is to pitch your tent in front of a stampede of crazed buffalo. You guys are not thinking. If you were around in the Soviet days you would be first to the firing squads or Gulags. Why do I even issue warnings if the response is to double down on business as usual?

I don't. Perception is Absolute Truth. But people who never awoke don't understand that and mistake it for something else.

Of course. I never said otherwise.

When it comes to situations of mass delusion of crowds, you should consider what happens when the hype breaks and the delusions collide with reality.