Leo Gura

Nope. It's easy to see. People just don't want to look at it because they have other agendas.

From the armchair a serious mind can intellectualize that it could easily be on the chopping block in this life. Mind can be used. Mind can be misused.

Lolz. Lower mind is so predictable. Like a herd of zombies at a Walmart on Black Friday.

Yes, nice distinguishing. Although in general, any kind of veganism is a higher perspective than the default of eating whatever tastes best. Veganism requires a development of empathy and selflessness which does not exist by default. But then this can bring with it a moral righteousness and crusading, which is low.

I'm sure Joe's audience will eat it up. The more anti-mainstream and wild it sounds, the better. Get that reptile spiritual brain all horned up with visions of flying through wormholes in the 5th dimension while wearing a MAGA hat and owning the Libs.

That's exactly the kind of gaslighting you should expect from an epistemic pervert.

Okay, that's fine. Discuss away. It's a great case study of lower perspective. Perhaps you can mine it for that.

Not really. I engaged with it at a meta, epistemic level. I don't get into the weeds of the content of Christianity because that is already an error. The bottom line is that I do not care nor respect what any religion says because it is a distraction from understanding God.

No, I mean any method that works for you. Meditation, self-inquiry, retreats, yoga, etc. You have to try them to see what suits your genetics. Astral projection is mostly a diversion. But if you are talented at it maybe it can have value for you. If you don't have the talent I would not bother sinking much time into it.

Don't promote that trash heap here.

Simply put, there is too much nonsense and corruption within Christianity, or any religion, to bother seriously engaging with it on any technical level. This would be like trying to do scholarly work on Lord of the Rings. It's unncessary. It is easier to just throw it all away. And if your mind is unwilling to throw it all away, that itself is the problem. Because God-Realization has zero need of Christianity or Jesus. If you're not willing to throw it all away then you're not serious about truth-seeking because you shouldn't care about this story, this person, or that teaching, or that scripture. That's all human stuff. God is beyond the human and does not care about any human forms or ideas.

I don't use the cloud, I have my own private intranet system.

@gengar I'm sorry for your health struggles. I have serious ones too. Unfortunately life doesn't owe us happiness or a good outcome. Pursue more consciousness and see what you discover. That's really the only real thing.

You can do that with OneNote or other software. Just keep the file locations on the stick. I do that for example with the book I write. I have a micro stick with all the book files and I can work on it on any PC. You can also set up an auto-backup system to save you stick's files to cloud storage once in a while. But only using files without an overarching software is not good. You want a fast way to naviagate all the text and links. And you want a search function.

It's hard to answer because mistakes are an important part of the work. But the gist of it is: Be more rigorous with psychedelic protocol. Don't assume you will be safe. Do not believe any New Age claim unless demonstrated. Do not assume any spiritual teacher or guru has a full understanding of God or Consciousness or Awakening. Be extra mindful of spiritual fantasies and parroting stuff you read in books or hear in talks. If it isn't part of your direct experience, regard it as speculation. Think through everything for yourself and be mindful of all the "humanness" that infests all spiritual teachings. Be extra mindful of developing a spiritual ego.

The infinite IS the finite. Yup.

You can easily dream an alternate timeline, so that's not good enough.

Don't overlook the possibility that you might be talking to and tormenting yourself.

Intuition generates ideas and models, which then need to be tested via something akin to scientific method. In the end, experience is king. All your ideas needs to be tested against experience in some fashion. For example, if you intuit that someone is your soul mate, you can put that to the test by marrying them and seeing how that plays out. You'll likely quickly discover how wrong you were. And if there is no way to test your intuitive idea, then you should regard it as a fantasy. For example, if you feel that aliens built the pyramids but you have no way to put that to the test, then it's a fantasy/speculation. You are right that Absolute Truth cannot be falsified and it is necessarily tautological. But all these New Age spiritual teachings are not Absolute Truth, they are human conceptions. Absolute Truth is not a conceptual scheme. Any conceptual scheme can turn out wrong. "Big foot is real" is a conceptual scheme. Unless big foot is standing before you.

Maybe I'm wrong. This work is about direct experience. So when you veer away from that, I will not indulge you. I understand that's frustrating, but we have epistemic standards to uphold here for your own good. Any teacher worth his salt should not let you veer off into ungrounded speculation and fantasy.

God doesn't need nor want to put a stop to it. That's your desire. Stop asking God to suit your desires and needs. God has a higher agenda.

All the above.

Yes. You can't just apply my list like a baboon to get to the truth. That would be too easy. My series isn't done yet. But as my list said, beware of perspectives which are unfalsifiable. Notice that New Agers love to construct unfalsifiable spiritual views. Saying that intuition is always right is like saying that the Quran is always right. Same epistemic structure. So when you follow the Quran and something turns out bad, people will just rationalize it as: well, it was good for me to get into this shit because it taught me a valuable lesson about swimming in shit, so the Quran wins afterall. Notice, we can do the same for Actualized.org teachings. Any bad advice that Leo gives must ultimately be good because even if it leads you to shit, that will be a good lesson for you in handling shit. Therefore it is definitionally impossible for Leo to give bad advice. It is absolutely critical for you to realize that your intuitions can and will lead you into profound self-deception if you are not extra careful. Intuition is a heuristic, not an absolute. Intuition hallucinates, like AI. So you will get hallucination errors.

It's a serious existential-level problem. But to simplify it, you need filters against fools and bullshitters who just want to exploit your openmindedness. Be infinitely openminded in private within your own mind when you do serious inquiry work, but in public when dealing with humans you need filters and boundaries. For example, stop listening to anyone who demonstrates they have low intellectual integrity or no genuine interest in inquiry or openmindedness. If someone is being closedminded you cut them off. You also use the list of criteria I gave you in this week's episode to screen out all the epistemic perverts. Being openminded does not mean that you endlessly indulge fools in their epistemic errors.

We already have a thread for this.