Leo Gura

No! You're just delusional. Trust me. I've gone through all these issues. I know every problem in game. I can smell all of your mistakes without even looking at you. The smell of a skunk.

You learned wrong.

Don't give him wrong advice. - - - - - Just speaking more generally, you guys are going about learning to get good with girls all wrong. Unless you get serious about this you will fail and waste years. Learning game requires utmost seriousness. You must learn from experts, not just make up your own crap. Really, you guys need to be beaten with sticks for some of your behaviors. Trained like dogs to act correctly in front of women.

I'm a philosopher and intellectual, not a coach.

Yeah, but the problem is getting her to like you. This is easy for good-looking people so they take it for granted that everyone is like that.

That is creepy and bad game. The reason you are not getting results is because you aren't doing game properly. You need to find rolemodels who are actually good who you can watch and learn from. If you keep gaming like this, you will be stuck for years with no results. Game requires being ruthless with yourself about changing your behavior to what is required for girls to respond positively. You need to be socially calibrated. You don't just walk up behind a girl in the street and put your hands around her. You need to be aware of her safety concerns and make her feel safe. You really need someone to coach you through the basics. At least watch infield video of how to do a proper approach. Learning game requires serious attention to detail. Not just anything works. Most things don't work and lose you girls.

His HotSeat program is valuable. Any infield footage is super valuable. Him selling courses is not the problem.

Infinite divisibility is God.

You mean Actualized? My initial plan was just to use Actualized to get coaching clients. Then as I saw it was getting popular I knew I could sell courses. I didn't sell out because I hate that and because I had estblished myself from my previous biz so I wasn't financially desperate.

First time hearing this. Oh God. It's worse than I thought. He's getting lost in his own self-absorbed fantasy. The ego constructs a fantasy around itself, just like Trump and Musk. In a sick sense he's teaching the ultimate lesson. I was hoping he would outgrow the whole pickup thing.

Completely irrelevant. That was a right-wing policy agenda. This crisis is a projection of ignorant people. Why feed into it? If you distrust your government because something bad happened 15 years ago, you will never have a functional government. And the anti-Covid nonsense has nothing to do with that. It is just memes and mass delusion. To frame it as coming from a legitmate greivance is to give it too much credit. Covid was handled well considering how many people could have died. People have just rotted their own minds with conspiracy theories.

Such shameless ingratitude for hardworking people saving your life.

I don't use that word lightly. I only apply it to people who I think genuinely score high on a clinical narc assessment. If someone is a narc, to not know that about them, to not take it into account, is a mistake in analysis. Being a narc explains a lot of one's behaviors and motivation. It's not personal. I don't go around calling people narcs just because I disagree with them. Trump, Musk, Owen -- they have some deep personality issues and a lot in common. This not a thread about bashing Owen. It's a thread about making sense of why he backs Trump and Musk.

I'm not shocked at all. It's just what I would expect. Owen's whole life has been battling against mainstream PC culture which demonizes pickup. Wokeness killed RSD. Or so he believes. Wokeness is Owen's #1 enemy. Everything else is just a backwards rationalization from that. Owen is doing survival. That's what he's always been doing. What do you think Covid lockdowns did to his business? What did MeToo do to his business? You might as well have a gun to his head.

Look, we also shouldn't be too puritanical. A bit of corruption is okay. It's not like the non-pickup dating field is free of corruption. All sexual relations are filled with various corruptions and women do corrupt things to, and in the end guys need to get laid and women too, and humanity needs babies. The problem is easily addressed by just teaching some dating ethics and using some empathy. You can do pickup in relatively ethical ways.

Not just self-deception, corruption. It is obvious to anyone with a lick of intelligence that making a career out of chasing sex will severely corrupt you.

Cause we all know that Trump supporters are masters at starting businesses and never fail. Like how Daddy Trump never failed at business.

Sam is a boss. One of the smartest progressives.

The big picture is still more important. Money is a tool towards the big picture.

Obviously people have done it. Whether you can do it depends on your health, energy levels, work ethic, personality type, and many other factors. Depends very much on your career and how busy/distracted it makes you. You can do career in many ways. You can also build up a career and then afford some time off for side pursuits. Are you going to get Awakened while running a Fortune 500 public company? Probably not. You have to strategically design your lifestyle around your top values. There will be difficult tradeoffs because you can't have it all at once. But you can space your goals out over 20-40 years. In the early stages of building a career, most of your energy should go into the career. But after a few years of that you can ease back on career and have time for other pursuits.

Vision and theory. It is important that you are working towards the right big picture, not just something like money.

Sure. If you want to get real serious, sit down in a room with a notepad and write at the top the following questions: Does truth exist? If so, what do I know for sure that's true? How can I be sure? Where does truth come from? And then just spend hours working that out. Use your own direct experience to bootstrap inquiry. Try to find anything in your experience or mind that is 100% true. Rewatch my video: How To Discover What Is True? and follow it.

The reframe is that handling this much money responsibly is just the next step of your development. Handling money and big deals is a skill. So developing that skill is the real gold here. Money is just a resource and you will train yourself how to manage resources effecticvely to do good in the world. Doing good in the world requires good resource management. You will put these resources toward actualizing yourself and improving the world. Visualize all this in your mind every day until you are clear that this is just what your path needs. If that fails, I am happy to hold on to your money

This is a great place to start. You want to use truth to ground yourself, orherwise the mind devolves into conceptual fantasies and illusions. What I said is even more fundamental than that. "Trump is a devil" is a conceptual judgment. If you just look at your raw experience of Trump without any concepts you will not see any devil. You will not even see a human. You will see computer screens and photographs. Raw experience strips away all the mental noise, labels, and categories. This grounds you in raw reality. This cleanses the mind of trash. By doing this exercise you will realize that you don't even know if Trump exists as a human. All you have are photographs of him. That's the truth.

Especially in career. Career is 95% action.