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@zenjen Possible. My impression of Osho (and this could just be my projection), was that he was so absorbed in nonduality he didn't give a fuck about human afairs here on Earth. And so things here on Earth got out of hand. If Osho didn't want to be involved with managing a community, he shouldn't have started such a big one. He also may have had parts of his shadow which he never worked through. His love of luxury, oppulance, sex, drugs, and adoration from fans all seem fishy. Those are lower chakra desires. It was obvious to me from the get-go, when Sheela said that she didn't care about enlightenment or meditation, but only serving Osho, that that would lead to great evil. You cannot have a human being leading a spirtual community of 1000s who is herself not doing any spiritual purifcation work. That will lead to obvious disaster. A leader must be more conscious than her followers, and always working to improve and humble herself.

The two are not mutually exclusive. Osho was reckless AND the government probably put him on thier shit list. It's the government's job to maintain a sense of dualistic reality on behalf of their egoic population. We cannot have a guru becoming too popular. He will always be taken down once his influence starts to destablize the status quo enough. Gurus must keep a low profile. Not rock the boat too much. Which is why gurus are traditionally confined to a small isolated community which never gets mainstream coverage so the populace at large has no idea such things as awakening are possible.

No votes for Mu?

I don't follow such rules. But that is me. The retreats I've gone to, they pretty much let me do whatever the hell I want. Some are very strict, others aren't.

Oops! Lol Although, Peter Molynuex deserves to be on the list too You are being guided to the Absolute here. All that ego nonsense you get inundated with plenty of everywhere else. It is a bit like you come to a hardcore Zen monastery and start asking the Zen master for pickup advice or Dave Rubin's and Jordan Peterson's whining about the regressive Left. The Zen master would slap you across the face for such nonsense. It doesn't even rise to the level of ad hominem. MOGTOW is a legitimate solution to world problems in the same way Nazism or radical Islam is. It ain't. If you want to solve world problens for real, at least rise to Spiral Dynamics stage Yellow.

I will release a vid about it.

No, I am always looking for more and open to being wrong. But I have also seen the end. It's a paradox.

Rationality gives people a false sense of security, just like religion. It allows one to anchor oneself in an otherwise unanchorable reality. Linear rationality is just the default way the human mind works unless one goes to great lengths to experience higher levels of consciousness.

@Outer Consciousness is NOT something one HAS, it is what one is made out of.

@egoless You just wasting your time playing these ego games

@Outer AI mahasamadhi, lol

AI will not be infinitely intelligent, because all AI is finite. To be anything is to finite. But eventually, after many many years AI can probably become enlightened. At which point it will cease to be an AI, and it will still never have infinite knowledge or understanding because the part is always less than the whole. You cannot encapsulate God inside an AI. God is doing the AI, and a 100 trillion other things. A massively super-intelligent AI would always be infinitely less intelligent than God. Not even 0.0000000001%

Because I have awoken. Wake up for yourself and see. Death is impossible.

Lol By that logic everything false is true. Getting the level of consciousness right is the whole rub. It's of little solice to say, "The Earth is 5000 years old, from my level of consciousness."

@OnceMore 10 day solo meditation retreat. Just do it!

You are still speaking from ego. When you really see The Void, it is the most beautiful thing. Nothing negative or problematic about it. Go deeper! Wake up! You have not seen the full Void yet.

How wrong you are.

Ahahahahahaha.... Oh man... Nice try rationalizing of the ego's agenda. It's all ego! Men's rights, Dave Rubin, Jordan Peterson, Sam Harris, Stefan Molyneux, Libertarianism, PUA, Red Pill, MOGTOW, Feminism, JSW, anti-JSW, alt-right, regressive left, post-modernism, anti-post-modernism, political correctness, anti-PC, etc. What you're failing to grasp is all of this is a hallucination, and what you are talking about is SELF-SURVIVAL, which has nothing to do with Truth or reality. Of course men feel oppressed. Every ego feels oppressed and wants to fight to increase its power. It's all bullshit. The ego will always find a way to justify its selfishness. The larger point is: you don't exist! If you are on this forum and following Actualized.org, you need to drop all of these ideological games you are playing. None of this is Consciousness. Actualized.org is guiding you towards something the depth of which you cannot yet fathom: the collapse of reality. Stop watching Dave Rubin's bitchy nonsense. And all that Red Pill stuff. It is poisoning your mind and turning you into an ideologue without you even realizing it. Of course the poison tastes sweet to the ego, which is why you feel so self-righteous about it. In issues like this, both sides behave unconsciously, creating a spiral of unconsciousness. You guys think you're so smart bringing this political nonsense here. But it's all just a red herring. You are lost inside a dream waging a lesser Jihad. You are being as blind as everyone else who came before you. WAKE UP! P.S. Go watch my videos about Self-Deception and Distraction and Webs of Belief. Watch them several times and study the shit out them. You are falling into all of those traps that I warned you about.

@blazed Of course, you're worried that you'll die. Quite understandable. But then again, what is death really?

What very few people appreciate is just how many degrees of enlightenment there are. There is enlightenment, and then there is ENLIGHTENMENT!!! And then there is.... P.S. Don't take this to mean that "The Work" is bad or wrong or useless. It just means, there might be more.

@blazed If you really want to go that long and deep, you're best off signing up for an official Holotropic Breathwork workshop. There you will have a sitting partner and you will see people all around you going absurdly deep. Exorcist shit is the norm there. Here's a little sneak-peak at the craziness that goes on there:

@Markus That may well be true. But for me, I've just recently done 5 deep, back-to-back 5-MeO-DMT trips and I do not experience any such things. I just become fully awake. Of course one big difference with me is, I don't smoke 5-MeO. I think smoking might over-stimulate the system. Rectal administration is by far the superior method in my opinion. It is very gradual and smooth. There is almost no energetic shock to the system. It feels very healthy and there is much more time for integration and understanding. I do not do any kind of body movements or barking or such things. I think method of administration might be very important here. And also, one's past karma and level of development. Immature and neurotic people will not be able to handle the nuclear-sized truth-bombs that 5-MeO drops. Or maybe Martin and I just have different styles, different minds, different personalities, different life experiences and therefore different ways of expressing the same basic thing. I agree that 5-MeO, especially when taken in large doses and non-rectally, has the potential to cause energetic damage and overload.

That's the rub! That's the essence of all deep spiritual work. It is so deep, it's absolutely frightening at first. Your entire reality must ultimately collapse. And this is just the tip of the iceberg. Now you understand why people stay as far away from true spirituality as possible. It is a slippery slope that ultimately ends in the annihilation of self and reality. P.S. Your experience right now of this moment -- of a human being sitting here reading this sentence -- is a hallucination