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@AlexB It's never as bad as it seems. Even if you slide all the way back, you're really not the same any more. You will move ahead much faster now. Your state will fluctuate a lot. Don't use state as a measure of growth. It's the wisdom and lessons learned that really matter, even if your state is sucky right now.

This is wrong. It's very obvious what God is when once you awaken. You are it. Any supernatural or mystical phenomena will be lesser than awakening. There is a lot supernatural phenomena possible within the field of spirituality, but awakening will beat them all. Don't get distracted with shiny objects.

Pata pata pata PON!

@RawJudah Plenty of householders awoken. Don't create limiting beliefs. Even a householder can plan a few 10-day retreats strategically throughout the year. The real question is, do you want to awaken? If you do, you'll find a way. And doesn't have to mean ditching your family.

That's just cause you guys are taking the wrong substances in the wrong ways. What trippers do not realize is how important the substance is. They trip on the wrong psychedelics in the wrong ways, gets some bad trips, and take that as a message to hang up the phone. When you're tripping the right way, you won't be told to hang up the phone for 100+ trips. There is too much wisdom there to hang up on. The hang up happens because the mind isn't ready to handle it, and went too deep too fast. When I hear someone saying they took 5 trips and got the message to hang up the phone, I laugh. That's like driving 5 miles outside your city and realizing, "Welp, I guess I've seen all the world has offer. Time to head back home." Tripping requires persistence and patience and exploration of many different substances to find the right ones.

I've held off on trying it. Taking my time to get to it. I want to focus on awakening first before I do more exploratory stuff. I will do N,N-DMT and other exotic psychedelics later.

@Prabhaker Osho was negligent. It's amazing how Sheela got out in 29 months on attempted assassination of government officials and bio-terrorism charges. She got off very light.

No, I've probably only scratched the surface of how deep the insanity goes. I don't really care to ever experience it again. Which is why I stay away from mushrooms. McKenna had some mushroom trips that were supposedly so terrifying he never took them again. I'd stick to AL-LAD or 1P-LSD. I think if you play around with mushrooms long enough, they will scare the shit out of you and probably sour your whole attitude towards psychedelics.

@Prabhaker When your followers are placing diseased beavers into a blender to pour into the local water supply to poison an entire city, I'd say something's a bit wrong

Oh, BTW, 5-MeO-DMT must be done an a totally empty stomach. No eating for like 4 hours at least. You will be very sorry otherwise. I've noticed the trips can start to get wonky with even a bit of food. I've also noticed the trips get wonky for me if done in the morning. Otherwise I never get nausea.

@Ethan_05 Awakening is the most amazing thing ever. You literally become God. Your motivation should be: I want to know what reality is and why it exists! Tap into that deep curiosity until it's the primary thing driving your life. Or find some other way to frame it. If you're a God-believing person, then you could frame it as: I want to know what God is! Since you are young and in high school, you have LOTS of free time, especially during the summer. Stop screwing around and do a 10-day meditation retreat. You can easily get a glimpse into awakening within those 10 days. And then you'll have your motivation.

That's really interesting. Share more of your findings with us.

I've found my perfect dose now through lots of experimentation. 22-25mg rectally. Below 20mg is powerful, but not quite fully Infinite. 25mg is just to the point where any more would be too much to tolerate. At least that's for me. Everyone will be a bit different. On my retreat all of my doses were in the 20-22mg range. A few of the doses didn't work as planned because my plugging technique wasn't perfected yet and also because weighing out substance accurately is quite challenging even on a milligram scale, especially in a humid environment. I want to transition to volumetric dosing because the scale is just not consistent. These micro scoops should do the trick.

@phoenix666 Yup, that's mushrooms for ya They can take you to infinity, but the road will be twisted. Breaking through that barrier of insanity is a really important step. So long as you're afraid of going insane, you're not yet capable of contemplating the nature of reality. The Truth lies beyond insanity. You may want to upgrade to a less twisted psychedelic, like LSD. The trouble with mushrooms is, it can be hard to integrate their lessons because they can be so twisted. 5-MeO-DMT is the polar opposite of that. You get Infinity without any twist, which is ideal. I haven't found any other psychedelic which is as clear and as direct. Most psychedelics are murky and capricious. The visual distortions also get in the way. And mushrooms fuck with your memory and sense of time in a weird way. They sort of hypnotize you.

I usually do it without music.

You got it! Keep digging deeper. There's more!

@Deutsche22 You'll need to be extra-strategic about your spiritual work in this case. Use the most powerful techniques like: Psychedelics Kirya yoga 10-day retreats etc.

No, no, no. The ego self is your physical existence. The idea that were born and are alive. The no-self is death of that. Imagine that one day your life just ended. Like you were never even born. But your body keeps on living. That is enlightenment. What people fail to understand about enlightenment is that "being alive" and "being born" and "physical existence" are just IDEAS! And once you realize they are IDEAS, all of reality will unravel and your life will collapse into Infinity. Physical existence is not a fact. It is an IDEA.

Yup, sad. That's what happens when materialism goes to its fullest conclusion. It is totally hollow, and the more successful you become, the more you start to see the truth of that. Most poor people are lucky because they will never get successful enough to realize just how pointless success is. It's very hard to believe unless you actually start to experience this phenomena for yourself. After you get all of the material stuff you most-wanted, the very next day will be the worse day of your life. So be ready for that. Have an escape plan. Materialism corrupts creativity because creativity is a spiritual pursuit.

Enlightenment Intensives are very.... INTENSE. They will definitely push you hard and you will grow in more ways than one. Ralston's teaching style is very advanced. He doesn't coddle you at all. Most people will not get the depth of what he has to offer because he doesn't present it in an easily accessible, mainstream-ized way. But the Enlightenment Intensive is just dyads. You do not get any "teachings" or theory during an Intensive. It's just a week of pure self-inquiry in a very structured setting, with partners.

@dharm4 Indeed

I'm not sure why 5-MeO seems to not work on certain people. Or it works much less effectively. Probably has something to do with differences in brain physiology and also innate spiritual attunement. My guess is, not all human brains are equally susceptible to 5-MeO-DMT. I'm guessing you need to have the right structures already present in the brain which can utilize the 5-MeO, otherwise not much happens. Either you require large dosages or maybe this chemical is just not the right one for you. Do you have a high tolerance to other psychedelics like LSD or mushrooms? 20mg of 5-MeO should produce radical shifts in consciousness. You may want to experiment with smoking/vaporizing it. Just be careful with dosage. Smoked dosages need to be MUCH smaller. Start with something like 5mg smoked, then work up to 10mg, then 15mg.

Thanks everybody!

We already have a Mega-Thread about this topic in Consciousness sub-forum.

That's how we get wise.