Leo Gura

Everything in you is a survival mechanism. Survival is the whole game you're playing.

Soviet Union was Red/Blue not Green. His conflation of Soviet Union with America and socialism is abysmally wrong-headed. The most advanced, developed, happiest, and healthiest countries in the world are: Norway, Sweden, Denmark, Iceland, Finland, Netherlands, etc. They are stage Green, verging on Yellow. Yes, they pay more taxes so that society is more even and fair for average people. The metric of success is not tax rate but average happiness, education, health, and success levels. His wisdom is not so practical when it polarizes young white males into demonizing stage Green, collectivism, post-modernism, environmentalism, and women's/minority rights. His audience has not integrated these things at all. Nor has JP. Meanwhile American society is drowning in pathological Orange to the point of global collapse. That's like worrying about jellyfish when there's a great white shark headed right at you.

In other words, they behave just like humans do towards fruit and animals. Disgust is an ego survival mechanism.

@Rilles You don't have to go that far back: https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/worldviews/wp/2017/09/26/russian-cannibal-couple-may-have-drugged-killed-and-eaten-as-many-as-30-people-police-say/

@AleksM Nice!

When you are cold and hungry on Mars and you've been eating fruit for 20 years straight and you're craving some BBQ ribs, you will reconsider

There are many different universities and programs. You can certainly find universities which teach positive and transpersonal psychology. Life coaching or hypnotherapy is another option. Hell, you could become a psychic and get clients through Yelp (assuming you had psychic abilities). I know a psychic couple who charge $200/hr for healing. The more woo-woo you get, the more you'll have to run your own shop, which means learning biz and marketing skillz. But that can be super rewarding.

@LoveandPurpose Well, academia is a very obvious option. The whole point of being a tenured professor is that you can basically research whatever the hell you want. You can even get government grants for your research and hire research assistants.

@tashawoodfall What is your life purpose? Why couldn't it make a living? Don't confuse one project you're doing with your LP. An initial project is not supposed to make you an entire living.

@Outer So what if I eat all of your Mars colony fruit before you get there and lock you out in the cold? And then I grill up your corpse for dinner. I didn't initiate any force. I was just eating fruit and then found a juicy corpse lying outside so why let it go to waste?

Mars colonies don't materialize from thin air. It takes 4 billion years of murder to create a Mars colony. And on that Mars colony you will have people who will use force to survive. Not to mention your killing of plants (which of course you conveniently don't even consider as initiation of force). But you are literally enslaving plants and eating them. Did you ask the plant for permission to eat it? Is the plant being eaten voluntarily? Do you see how ridiculously self-biased your whole worldview is? You are so selfish you don't even see your actions as selfishness!

Without initiation of force against others life could not exist. Survival is force, manipulation, theft, killing, and deception. You are lying to yourself that you do not initiate force. See how you pretend to be an angel while actually being a devil? As soon as your survival is threatened, you will initiate force and then you will justify it to yourself as not an initiation of force. Because in your egoic delusion you are an angel and must maintain that heroic self-image. By definition, anything you say, do, or think is "good" in your own mind because all you know and care about is your survival. All of your high ideals are just part of your survival strategy. They are survival through deception.

No! You fundamentally misunderstand how ego works. Ego defines everything relative to itself. "Self-defense" and "good" just mean: whatever is good FOR ME -- whatever I believe. People do not agree on anything. That's the whole problem. People are dishonest and lying ALL THE TIME! Most people are full of shit, even with themselves. All of those libertarians are full of shit. Therein lies the problem. They don't realize their own bullshit. All of their high ideals are just fantasies of the ego which is acting noble when in fact it is a selfish devil. A libertarian has no idea of how the ego is running the entire show. A libertarian is just a devil in sheep's clothing. What's worse, he's so deluded he's managed to convince himself he's an angel. At least a warlord is honest with himself that he's a devil.

Lol, to the ego, there is no difference between defense and offense. Your anarcho-communist commune will attack a neighboring commune and slit all their throats in the name of "self defense". Of course they will rationalize it to themselves as being fully consistent with their lofty non-aggression principle, in exactly the same way that the US rationalized the invasion of Iraq as "liberation" and self-defense against evil-doers. What you are describing is exactly what governments do now. Only you're describing a version of it from 10,000 years ago. It's like you want to roll social evolution back by 10,000 years, thinking it will hold. But you can't wish nuclear weapons away.

Not less emotions, you will feel emotions even more vividly than now. Unenlightened people are emotionally numb zombies.

@Outer Lol, let's see what happens when they encounter a warlord who laughs at their non-aggression principle and rapes their children while making them watch. Now that's true freedom!

A hot hippie vegan girlfriend should do the trick

@Outer Hippies can have a libertarian streak as well. There are left and ring wing versions of libertarianism. There are even anarcho-communists: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anarcho-communism The problem is that doesn't work at scales of tens of millions of people. Yes, a handful of farmers can get together and build a local farm road. But they can't build an interstate highway or stop giant corporations from pouring toxic waste into a lake or running nationwide high speed 5G wireless phone networks. Modern governments with 100+ million people require massive infrastructure to maintain. You can't get that by living in tent villages and bartering homegrown lettuce with your hippie neighbors. Warlords will certainly enslave your hippie commune if there is no strong federal government to protect it. But even more realistically your hippie commune you will self-collapse from greed and sexual and other scandals. A sociopathic narcissist will hijack your commune and turn it into a criminal cult.

I'm not sure. Throw stuff at the wall and see what sticks.

@OneLittleHumanMind Sounds like you might want to clarify what your goal or intention is with this meditation. What are you trying to know or understanding? What am I? What is reality? Why is there something rather than nothing? What is God? What is consciousness? What is love? What is another? What is the mind? What is ego? How do I end suffering? You want to be clear about what insight you want. What the fuck do you want?? If you want nothing then be clear about that and just sit in peace without effort (the do nothing technique). Psychedelics help a lot too.

@Rilles Those might be too New Agey for him.

No, meditation is going to surface emotional "stuff". It only becomes calm after years and years of heavy practice. For a Zen monk with 20 years of daily practice, yes, it's now calm. But that ain't you. Although sitting still should still be doable for you. Not sure why your legs need to be flailing around.

That's really my only criticism of the Majority Report. As Green, they are too adversarial against Orange & Blue, thus deepening the polarization. But that's just how Green is. It ain't yet Yellow. I thought about sharing Spiral Dynamics with them, but they would probably demonize me for it. Green does not want to give up its hatred of Orange.

@CreamCat Watch 100 of his videos. 1 video is nothing. The higher up the Spiral you go the more nuanced the work gets, the more study it takes to appreciate. Sam Seder would tear JP apart like a rabid dog JP will not be interested in that.

That's because the higher your development the easier it is to awaken because the higher your perspective-taking ability is and the more openminded you are. But be careful with your generalizations. All of these people are different and they lived long lives which involved lots of unseen development work. You probably cannot imagine how much work such people did on themselves. We're talking 10s of thousands of hours of work and study. Don't confuse humility and simplicity of teaching with lack of work. Just the opposite. Most of the people on the Turquoise list are world-class masters.