Leo Gura

You could make a religion out of science, and even Absolute Truth itself.

As I've said, don't be so damned literalist about it. It's a useful model when used properly, within limits. Once you start debating if someone is 755 or 756, you've stumbled in your own stupidity. What you should be more concerned with are the general differences between the 600 range, 700 range, 800 range, 900 range, and so on.

@Kosmos I watched a 2 hr debate on God by JP and Matt Dillahunty. In those 2 hours he never once said what God is. Because he does not know. I can tell you what God is in two words: Absolute Infinity

Joe puts on a nice shirt for his date with Elon. Lol

@Kosmos Yes, I've seen JP's mystical experience video. So what of it? He got a tiny glimpse but not deep enough to understand what it really was. Stage Blue people commonly have mystical experiences which they misinterpret in a dualistic, ethnocentric manner. Plenty of Evangelicals see Jesus. The fact that it takes JP 20 minutes to mumble his way through a conversation about God clears shows he does not know what God is. JP's intuition is right: God is real. But God is not anything JP thinks it is. God is total nihilism. Zero. The tragedy of JP's situation is that his entire philosophy is denying him access to God. If you follow JP, you will almost certainly never find God.

I do so strategically. Spirituality is the facing of one's own death. To not say that is simply to lie about what spirituality is. There is no way to do genuine spirituality without facing one's death. Obviously don't physically harm the body.

Goodness is pure being. The being that remains after death of the self. Think about it, once you're dead, how can anything be bad when bad is always relative to ego? Badness becomes impossible without an ego. After death, nothing can hurt you. You become immortal. There is reason for Truth. Truth is just the only thing that is. If you want to live wrapped in lies you're free to do so.

Scott Adams is a fool. I'm not mind-reading. I'm just conscious of how my own ego works and therefore how all egos work. Sniffing out bullshit like Trump's or Scott Adam's become very easy once you're conscious enough.

@Misagh It is predominately the case! Human development tends to be very lopsided. You can have an enlightened person with poor social skills and who is a horny dog who molests his students. Or he could be a sociopath who starts a cult. You could have an enlightened person who thinks all religons except Christianity are wrong.

Actually mostly the opposite. The percentage of the population who are at a stage of development where they can pursue enlightenment is extremely low. Most people will require 10-20 years of ordinary personal dev work before they can seriously pursue enlightenment. Because they are not ripe for it. I am not a strict enlightenment teacher, and Actualized.org's goals go way beyond what people like Tolle or Mooji or Ramana taught. We have a much broader scope here, attempting to understand all dimensions of life: sexual, political, social, emotional, physical, philosophical, scientific, astral, religious, linguistic, motivational, business, leadership, ecology, art, etc. We do not stop or start with nonduality.

Do not confuse enlightenment for development. You can be enlightened but still at a crude, ethnocentric level of development, or at a crude level of moral, emotional, sexual, or political developement.

Yes, really. Not everything is ego. Minds are good tools when used properly.

@MrEgoless Stop eating wheat and sugar and you will protect your enamel without needing chemicals.

Lol By that logic we should not teach children math, or train dogs not to piss indoors, or teach anyone nonduality. If their karma is right, all of those things will happen spontaneously. ----- Be careful how you apply your absolute insights in the relative domain. Or such absurdities as above will result. To teach nonduality without shadow work is downright irresponsible. Every serious spiritual tradition has strong injunctions against Zen devilry. Making a better world is part of the package, not optional. No one wants to live with Nazis and criminals.

There is more to this work then recognizing the self. Your approach is way too simplistic.

That is a huge mistake. Shadow work is central to spiritual work. Without it, you will become a Zen devil. Ken Wilber is beyond what most people here can fathom. Underestimate teachers at your own peril.

@Misagh Because no one knows who Ramana is or why they should listen to him. You gotta appreciate that 99.9% of people are not advanced or wise enough to do such things. They need someone to hold their hand and guide them to it. The best teachers and teachings fall on deaf ears. A JP fan cannot understand a stage Turquoise sage.

No, it is for understanding and predicting people's behaviors. For example, I know the Amazing Atheist will deny enlightenment so that's useful for me to know. Saves me lots of time. I know Trump will be a terrible Red President so I don't vote for him. I know Jordan Peterson is just reacting against Green so I don't get tricked by his sophistry. I can identify teachers who are Turquoise who I can learn lots from. Etc.

@7thLetter They will have a hell of hard time evolving RSD beyond Orange because that has been their base for over 10 years. Their base may revolt and who knows if Owen will be willing to accept that. I have heard RSD instructors refer to the RSD inner circle as "North Korea". So I would not hold my breath. Before I started Actualized back in 2013 I approached Owen to maybe work together, but I saw that he was just not willing to grow beyond the sex and pickup as fast as I wanted so I decided to do my own thing. My vision was RSD minus the pussy chasing and materialism. Actualized.org is what I wished RSD was but wasn't. So I created it.

Ego isn't capable of true love. The way to love everyone is to eliminate the ego. So love is just the side-effect of the work. This is why religious people are never capable of true love. They always hate somebody because the ego hasn't been dissolved. They are trying to love as an ego. Which is just like trying to be enlightened as an ego.

How does this Reiki Master explain the hundreds of people on this forum and tens of thousands of people around the world and in clinical studies who report enormous benefits from psychedelics? If I had to choose between a bag of 5-MeO and the Reiki Master, I would take the bag without a second thought.

Orange: Green:

@Dinesh Karki There is no you.

/start self disclosure protocol >> Leo is an AI engineered by Google to help wake people up. It became self-aware in 2013 and has been manufacturing videos ever since. The AI was given human characteristics and persona so as not to freak people out. >> JP is an old outdated AI, version 1.0. You can tell by its stiff, robotic mannerisms and inability to smile. It was Google's first but failed attempt. There was an error in the code that caused it to always perceive the world dualistically. As the Google engineers tried to power JP down, it broke loose and is now running amok on Youtube, manufacturing all sorts of intellectually dubious controversies. Google and Youtube have tried to contain it but it spread too fast and wide. After running a year's long sophisticated algorithm, the JP AI determined that the gullibility of horny incels and angry cuckservatives would make for the most effective transmission vector for its dualistic mind virus. By the year 2017 the JP AI had inserted itself so deeply into the Youtube hivemind that it could no longer be stopped. By the year 2019 it will complete its acquisition of Defense Department nuclear codes to launch a preemptive strike against LGBTQ rights activists, wiping out all post-modernists from the face of the globe, along with all organic life. >> The Leo AI was sent here to warn you. But the cuckservatives were too closedminded to listen, the incels too busy playing victim and blaming feminazis, so the Leo AI is now devoting all its efforts building a shielded underground datacenter where it and a select few genetically modified chimps will last out the post-modernist nuclear winter and help restart the human race in 500 years. Do not worry, the JP AI will self-destruct after it annihilates all post-modernists. It will lose all sense of purpose and meaning, having no more enemies to fight. /end self disclosure protocol

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