Leo Gura

It is not my job to do introductions. I am not a podcast host.

I think that problem is solved by properly teaching epistemology all throughout school. By the time kids graduate highschool they should have the epistemic knowhow of everything Actualized.org teaches. This should be a baseline for everyone in society. Not as a belief system, but actual epistemic work, questioning reality. We expect everyone to know math, yet not epistemology? This is silly.

Yes, it costs money to avoid toxic chemicals these days. Making poison has been big business for the last 100 years.

I was gonna make a joke saying kangaroos, but then read your post. Lol

I think they still struggle with self-deception and bias, unless they are crazy Woke. Bugs me too.

@musicandmath111

I will not shower for a month and roll around in glitter.

Let's get a thread going that showcases the deep intelligence of survival in nature. This helps people see the intelligence and sneakiness of survival in the human realm. Try to post examples not merely of survival, but the intelligent, deceptive, and sneaky nature of survival.

Hey, ya'll, I need your help! I want to create a comprehensive list of video examples of prototypical stage Orange thinking. This is not meant to humiliate or demonize stage Orange. It's meant to be an educational tool for people learning about Spiral Dynamics. So towards that end, scour Youtube and find all the videos you can which exhibit stage Orange thinking. Try to find videos which are short and sweet. The more diversity we can display here, the better. Try to find examples from various cultures: Europe, Middle East, Asia, Indonesia, Japan, Russia, Africa, South America, etc. We will create a mega-thread like this for every stage in the Spiral, from Red to Turquoise. But here, let's just focus on Orange. Each week I will start a new mega-thread topic for the next stage. Do not start a political debate in this thread! It is not our goal here to defend our personal political positions or to judge any stage, but simply to compile examples. Thanks for your help! I'm excited to see what kind of juicy stuff you dig up. Try to be selective with your choices. This can turn into a really cool list. List of Orange Values: Achievement, success, excellence Climb your way to the top Upward mobility Obsessed with being #1, be a winner Improving one’s own position in life Efficiency, progress, productivity, optimization Gaming the system, min-maxing, manipulation Creative exploitation Action, results, pragmatism Never-ending growth Capitalism, libertarianism Competitive marketplace Deregulation, denationalization Hard work, business, entrepreneurship Competition, winner-take-all Self-improvement Skills, knowledge, education Confidence, optimism, charisma Entertainment & showmanship Personal freedom, self-reliance, independence Free speech Money, sex, luxury Net worth Physical appearance, youth, sexiness, coolness Consumerism, conspicuous consumption Brands Pop culture, celebrities, social media Quarterly profits, mass market, sales Mass production, industry Rationality, logic, science, secularism, humanism Technology Materialism, reductionism, atheism, evolution Hard-nosed science, no New Age mumbo-jumbo Pragmatism, empiricism, skepticism No metaphysics Analysis “Facts” Data, analytics, models, quantify everything Science-based fact-based education Double-blind, peer-reviewed studies “Scientific method” IQ Strategic planning, risk analysis Innovation & creative thinking Results & the bottom-line matters most Maintaining a competitive edge Competence vs rank or bloodline Recognition, reward Win-win outcomes Stage Orange Examples: America, capitalism, emerging China, businessmen, CEOs, biz suits, corporate boardrooms, lawyers, Wall Street, Wolf of Wall Street, insider trading, Manhattan, hedge-fund managers, Goldman Sachs, Big pharma, Big oil, Big banks, tobacco companies, advertising, Fortune 500 companies, entrepreneurs, libertarians, Ayn Rand, professional sports, FIFA, NBA, Superbowl, sponsorship deals, fashion, Rolex, nightclubs, pickup, MOGTOW, redpill, bro culture, Republicans, Trump, trophy hunting, breast implants, plastic surgery, Botox, liposuction, pornography, Playboy, Hustler magazine, Hugh Hefner, Larry Flynt, strip clubs, Hollywood biz, supermodels, Silicon Valley, start-ups, venture capital, Bill Gates, Warren Buffet, casinos, theme parks, Carl Icahn, Koch Brothers, corporate raiders, Walmart, Amazon, Coca-Cola, McDonalds, Disney, Monsanto, Microsoft, GE, AT&T, IBM, Facebook, EA, micro-transactions, gamer culture, Enron, R&D, lobbyists, Dick Cheney, Halliburton, yuppies, internet, bodybuilding, Arnold, steroids, corrupt politicians, MBA programs, golf courses, fly fishing, anti-union laws, patent trolls, Western medicine, Larry Ellison, Steve Ballmer, Dave Rubin, Stefan Molyneux, outsourcing, deregulation, tax cuts, trickle down economics, payday loans, sweatshops, junk food, fast food, energy drinks, used car salesman, marketing, sales & PR, focus groups, television, reality TV, infomercials, game shows, CNN, MSNBC, liberal media, e-commerce, financial industry, software engineers, technical scientists, nuclear weapons, luxury yachts, private jets, personal helicopters, real estate tycoons, railroads, the Gilded Age, Robber Barons, Andrew Carnegie, Rockefeller, J.P. Morgan, William Hurst, Rupert Murdoch, Robert Mercer, technocrats, cocaine, alcohol, pop music, rock music, club music, rap music, trophy wife, gold-digger, oil drilling in Alaska, champagne & caviar, fancy restaurants, luxury resorts, cruise ships, mercenaries, Black Water, gated communities, mansions, video games, Success magazine, private prep schools, poker players, self-help industry, biz books, biz seminars, marketing seminars, Dan Kennedy, Tim Ferris, Tony Robbins, Tai Lopez, Brian Tracy, Michael Shermer, Richard Dawkins, Lawrence Krauss, Daniel Dennett, Sean Carroll, Stephen Hawking, Christopher Hitchens, consulting, success coaches, millionaire mindset, net worth, sports cars, Mercedes, BMW, Rolls Royce, Lamborghini, Ferrari, VIP, celebrities, paparazzi, Las Vegas, Cannes film festival, Aspen, Palm Springs, Hong Kong, Macau, Dubai, cost/benefit analysis, nerd culture, polyester clothing, PT Barnum, snake oil salesman, atheism, skepticism, separation of church & state, enlightenment values, “Western values”, Founding Fathers, Benjamin Franklin, Voltaire, Renaissance, Industrial Revolution, factories, Henry Ford, WTO, Ferengi, Kim Kardashian, Kanye West, Paris Hilton, Bernie Madoff, Paul Manafort, sex drugs & rock n roll, mid-life crises, malls, fashion shows, NASA, SpaceX, Elon Musk, for-profit universities, get-rich-quick schemes, online millionaires, Bitcoin, Forex, daytrading, utilitarianism, Logical Positivism, behaviorism, Darwinism, social media, gun rights, Ivy League universities, Harvard, Yale, Princeton, MIT, CalTech, military industrial complex: Lockheed Martin, Boeing, Northrup Grumman, Sigmund Freud, Harvey Weinstein, 2008 financial collapse, dot com bubble, Cubism, Abstract Expressionism, Surrealism, multi-level marketing, Viagra, DDT, asbestos, billboards, GMOs, cloning, human genome project, stem cell research, robotics, computers, birth control, sex education, all-you-can-eat buffet, karoshi: death thru overwork, Alex Jones, prosperity preachers, Howard Stern, South Park, The Simpsons, Family Guy, House Of Cards, Avatar, Boiler Room, Ray Kurzweil, Sam Harris

I will make sure to rub myself with a skunk before I go. I hope you like some funk with your meal.

Is this stuff even real or just AI clickbait?

I need your help to assemble a list of juicy Stage Purple examples! List of Stage Purple Values: The tribe/clan, community Family & tribal bonds, blood relationships Living together, contribution to the tribe Group activities, group celebration Honor Humility Self-sacrifice Respecting elders, ancestors, customs Taboos and customs Ritual, ceremony Mother nature, harmony Magical powers Spirit realm, spirit deities Mystery Mystical intuition Rites of passage Sacred objects & places Traditional music & dance Myth, sharing stories Retaining ancestral and tribal memory Reciprocity, sharing, cooperativ-interdependence Warding off evil spirits Cursing/hexing one’s enemies Psychic powers Out of body travel Respect of elders for their wisdom & experience Wisdom of the elders Family relics and heirlooms Religious medals, lucky charms Sacred words Stage Purple Examples: Carlos Cataneda’s Don Juan, Amazon tribes, African tribes, Indonesia tribes, Native Americans, Middle East, New Guinea, Bosnia, the Zulu, Bwiti, Hawaiian culture, Indian culture, Arab culture, Japanese Shinto religion, Tibet, rural China, Afghanistan, Aborigines, Maori, Pocahontas, shaman, medicine man, Avatar: Na’vi, Legend of Zelda, Patapon, Turok, Dances With Wolves, The Medicine Man, the noble savage, ancient mythology, voodoo, witchcraft, curses & hexes, animal sacrifice, gift economy, sharing resources, paganism, cannibal tribes, sun worship, animal-human hybrids, animal gods & spirits, ethnic cleansing, the paleolithic, cave paintings, Stone Henge, Ubuntu: I am because we are, suicide bombing, Kamikazi, human sacrifice, eating enemies, chanting & drum music, herbal medicine, Ayurveda, acupuncture, Qi, shrines, totem poles, ayahausca, peyote, saliva, mushrooms, datura, iboga, amanita muscaria, sweat lodges, vision quests, tribal tattoos, the evil eye, magical healers, ancient burial grounds, knocking on wood, lucky rabbit’s foot, black cats, prayer altars, Day of the Dead, Halloween, urban legends, fertility goddesses, astrology, fortune cookies, folk tales, fairy tales, Maneki-neko, graffiti, gypsies, face paint, symbolic costumes, secret handshakes, mating ceremonies, dowries, blood oaths, communal eating, missionaries in tribes, burial rituals, small company work environment, the Sacred Tree of Life, Don Miguel Ruiz: The 4 Agreements, The Alchemist, Teotl

It's not just about selling though. It's about appeal. Taylor Swift music is appealing. Even if it ain't your style. Dub-step is not appealing except to a few freaks. Which is why it will never out-sell Swift.

It's okay. The important thing is that you did the work.

The notion that conservatives are not obsessed with sex is laughable. Conservatives are sex freaks, despite their fake piety. That loving conservative is watching donkey porn in his closet.

Listening, in my view, is understanding verbal communication. Contrary to what hippies may believe, the rain is not communicating with you. But it is profound to be mindful of the rain.

Isn't that just botox?

@Davino What you're describing is what I would call awareness or mindfulness -- which is of course fundamental. I don't call listening to the rain, listening. But good for you for doing the work.

The cope that lovers of dub-step tell themselves when they go to sleep at night

Haha "I sniffed my own farts and concluded it smells good."

Yes, Vibes. But I think melody contributes more to the vibe. Melody is crucial for creating a memorable and unique vibe.

The melody has the character, the charisma, so-to-speak. To fall in love with a song it needs to have character. Rhythm has less dimension to express that character. Just like rice in a dish doesn't add character to the dish.

It's not just my preference. Hence the point about sales. Of course I am oversimplifying it. I know people love different things and I don't expect everyone to love what I love.

You guys are being all smart-ass with me. But there is a reason why pop-music is so melody-focused. Because what I said is true: what sells music is a delicious melody. Yeah, there are some folk who love niche kinds of music (dub-step and shit), but they are the exception that proves the rule. It's like people who glorify story in video games. Story does not sell video games. Story is not why people buy video games. And if you don't understand that, you are a bad designer.

Bro, that is the most overused joke is human history. South Park didn't invent it. I have not watched South Park in 20 years.