Leo Gura

Sorry to hear that. Alcohol can be wicked. Except you conveniently ignore all the disclaimers and advice given against mixing psychedelics with mental illness. No one who teaches about psychedelics thinks it is okay for a bipolar person to take psychedelics daily, for weeks and months. Everyone tells you that's very dangerous. That is called abuse of psychedelics. Yes, abusing psychedelics can be lethal. No person with mental health issues should be taking psychedelics daily. That is crazy. Perhaps Connor was normal, but lots of psychedelics can unlock latent mental illness. Psychedelics don't cause bipolar, but they can unlock it if one was already prone. Psychedelics are just like guns. Reckless people will certainly injure themselves with it. That is not the gun's fault. The gun is doing its job. What ever happened to responsibility? Whose responsibility is it to use psychedelics carefully? Why is that responsibility crucial?

That is interesting. Thanks for sharing.

Psychedelics heighten the manic delusions. That's why they are dangerous for bipolar. Especially daily chronic use. That will send the manic episodes out of control. If I was manic while doing 5-MeO for a month, I could easily have killed myself.

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Don't be too available.

What you see in video is not the full picture but only what he wanted you to see. He was not truly happy. Manic states never last.

I don't think Connor wanted to die. He was just reckless and thought he could get away with it forever. His luck ran out.

You are my mind.

No woman's body is as beautiful as my mind.

Splitting hairs over wrong/self-deception is silly. Can you distinguish them? Of course. But there is no need to do so in this discussion. You really think I don't know the difference between these two concepts?

Cute deflection, padawan.

Same thing.

Of course no one is excluded from being wrong. But the ego will use this truth against you.

Why would anyone have a high risk appetite for their hard earned money? Unless it isn't hard earned.

Self-deception is that deep. Of course not always. Sometimes I am just wrong. But how do you know when its which? How do you know that "Leo is wrong" is not your self-deception? That's what makes self-deception so devious. Self-deception corrupts your ability to judge self-deception.

It is more sneaky than that. People love the "not even Leo" part because it allows them an escape valve to maintain their self-deceptions. Any time the ego hears something from me that it dislikes, the ego can just say, "Well, even Leo says he could be self-deceived, so this is that." But is it really? Is Leo self-decieved, or are you? That's the billion dollar question.

You guys really love the "not even Leo" part.

You can go on Yelp.com right now and search for spiritual therapists and counselors. There are thousands of them. Finding a spiritual therapist is not hard if you specifically search for it. You can even find psychic therapists. I did. I went to a therapist who would read my life as we did therapy.

Yes, but mostly to combat inflation. Inflation will probably spike in the future because Trump will crash the economy and then the US gov will need to print money like crazy to bail itself out. Cash has become too inflation-risky. Inflation is killing us. Gold is the solution to that. Another option is high dividend stocks. But even those will crash along with tech. 10 years from now, gold will probably double due to inflation alone. Gold is the safest long-term investment aside from real-estate. But gold is much more liquid.

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Sunglasses fashion trends. Every decade is a new sunglass style everyone copies like an ape.

Smoking cigars to look macho.

Connor's downfall is tragic, but a silver lining is that he demonstrates the importance of being much more careful in spiritual work. I hope everyone here learns that lesson from him. Be more careful. Don't rationalize reckless spiritual behavior. And if you have mental health issues, seek out professional help. Don't just try to wing it.