Leo Gura

In general. Our view of women should be unbiased.

No one is going to show you aliens.

Yes, he has some great insights.

Hey, ya'll, I need your help! I want to create a comprehensive list of video examples of prototypical stage Orange thinking. This is not meant to humiliate or demonize stage Orange. It's meant to be an educational tool for people learning about Spiral Dynamics. So towards that end, scour Youtube and find all the videos you can which exhibit stage Orange thinking. Try to find videos which are short and sweet. The more diversity we can display here, the better. Try to find examples from various cultures: Europe, Middle East, Asia, Indonesia, Japan, Russia, Africa, South America, etc. We will create a mega-thread like this for every stage in the Spiral, from Red to Turquoise. But here, let's just focus on Orange. Each week I will start a new mega-thread topic for the next stage. Do not start a political debate in this thread! It is not our goal here to defend our personal political positions or to judge any stage, but simply to compile examples. Thanks for your help! I'm excited to see what kind of juicy stuff you dig up. Try to be selective with your choices. This can turn into a really cool list. List of Orange Values: Achievement, success, excellence Climb your way to the top Upward mobility Obsessed with being #1, be a winner Improving one’s own position in life Efficiency, progress, productivity, optimization Gaming the system, min-maxing, manipulation Creative exploitation Action, results, pragmatism Never-ending growth Capitalism, libertarianism Competitive marketplace Deregulation, denationalization Hard work, business, entrepreneurship Competition, winner-take-all Self-improvement Skills, knowledge, education Confidence, optimism, charisma Entertainment & showmanship Personal freedom, self-reliance, independence Free speech Money, sex, luxury Net worth Physical appearance, youth, sexiness, coolness Consumerism, conspicuous consumption Brands Pop culture, celebrities, social media Quarterly profits, mass market, sales Mass production, industry Rationality, logic, science, secularism, humanism Technology Materialism, reductionism, atheism, evolution Hard-nosed science, no New Age mumbo-jumbo Pragmatism, empiricism, skepticism No metaphysics Analysis “Facts” Data, analytics, models, quantify everything Science-based fact-based education Double-blind, peer-reviewed studies “Scientific method” IQ Strategic planning, risk analysis Innovation & creative thinking Results & the bottom-line matters most Maintaining a competitive edge Competence vs rank or bloodline Recognition, reward Win-win outcomes Stage Orange Examples: America, capitalism, emerging China, businessmen, CEOs, biz suits, corporate boardrooms, lawyers, Wall Street, Wolf of Wall Street, insider trading, Manhattan, hedge-fund managers, Goldman Sachs, Big pharma, Big oil, Big banks, tobacco companies, advertising, Fortune 500 companies, entrepreneurs, libertarians, Ayn Rand, professional sports, FIFA, NBA, Superbowl, sponsorship deals, fashion, Rolex, nightclubs, pickup, MOGTOW, redpill, bro culture, Republicans, Trump, trophy hunting, breast implants, plastic surgery, Botox, liposuction, pornography, Playboy, Hustler magazine, Hugh Hefner, Larry Flynt, strip clubs, Hollywood biz, supermodels, Silicon Valley, start-ups, venture capital, Bill Gates, Warren Buffet, casinos, theme parks, Carl Icahn, Koch Brothers, corporate raiders, Walmart, Amazon, Coca-Cola, McDonalds, Disney, Monsanto, Microsoft, GE, AT&T, IBM, Facebook, EA, micro-transactions, gamer culture, Enron, R&D, lobbyists, Dick Cheney, Halliburton, yuppies, internet, bodybuilding, Arnold, steroids, corrupt politicians, MBA programs, golf courses, fly fishing, anti-union laws, patent trolls, Western medicine, Larry Ellison, Steve Ballmer, Dave Rubin, Stefan Molyneux, outsourcing, deregulation, tax cuts, trickle down economics, payday loans, sweatshops, junk food, fast food, energy drinks, used car salesman, marketing, sales & PR, focus groups, television, reality TV, infomercials, game shows, CNN, MSNBC, liberal media, e-commerce, financial industry, software engineers, technical scientists, nuclear weapons, luxury yachts, private jets, personal helicopters, real estate tycoons, railroads, the Gilded Age, Robber Barons, Andrew Carnegie, Rockefeller, J.P. Morgan, William Hurst, Rupert Murdoch, Robert Mercer, technocrats, cocaine, alcohol, pop music, rock music, club music, rap music, trophy wife, gold-digger, oil drilling in Alaska, champagne & caviar, fancy restaurants, luxury resorts, cruise ships, mercenaries, Black Water, gated communities, mansions, video games, Success magazine, private prep schools, poker players, self-help industry, biz books, biz seminars, marketing seminars, Dan Kennedy, Tim Ferris, Tony Robbins, Tai Lopez, Brian Tracy, Michael Shermer, Richard Dawkins, Lawrence Krauss, Daniel Dennett, Sean Carroll, Stephen Hawking, Christopher Hitchens, consulting, success coaches, millionaire mindset, net worth, sports cars, Mercedes, BMW, Rolls Royce, Lamborghini, Ferrari, VIP, celebrities, paparazzi, Las Vegas, Cannes film festival, Aspen, Palm Springs, Hong Kong, Macau, Dubai, cost/benefit analysis, nerd culture, polyester clothing, PT Barnum, snake oil salesman, atheism, skepticism, separation of church & state, enlightenment values, “Western values”, Founding Fathers, Benjamin Franklin, Voltaire, Renaissance, Industrial Revolution, factories, Henry Ford, WTO, Ferengi, Kim Kardashian, Kanye West, Paris Hilton, Bernie Madoff, Paul Manafort, sex drugs & rock n roll, mid-life crises, malls, fashion shows, NASA, SpaceX, Elon Musk, for-profit universities, get-rich-quick schemes, online millionaires, Bitcoin, Forex, daytrading, utilitarianism, Logical Positivism, behaviorism, Darwinism, social media, gun rights, Ivy League universities, Harvard, Yale, Princeton, MIT, CalTech, military industrial complex: Lockheed Martin, Boeing, Northrup Grumman, Sigmund Freud, Harvey Weinstein, 2008 financial collapse, dot com bubble, Cubism, Abstract Expressionism, Surrealism, multi-level marketing, Viagra, DDT, asbestos, billboards, GMOs, cloning, human genome project, stem cell research, robotics, computers, birth control, sex education, all-you-can-eat buffet, karoshi: death thru overwork, Alex Jones, prosperity preachers, Howard Stern, South Park, The Simpsons, Family Guy, House Of Cards, Avatar, Boiler Room, Ray Kurzweil, Sam Harris

Hey, ya'll, I need your help! I want to create a comprehensive list of video examples of prototypical stage Green thinking. This is not meant to humiliate or demonize stage Green. It's meant to be an educational tool for people learning about Spiral Dynamics. So towards that end, scour Youtube and find all the videos you can which exhibit stage Green thinking. Try to find videos which are short and sweet. The more diversity we can display here, the better. Try to find examples from various cultures: Europe, Middle East, Asia, Indonesia, Japan, Russia, Africa, South America, etc. We will create a mega-thread like this for every stage in the Spiral, from Red to Turquoise. But here, let's just focus on Green. Each week I will start a new mega-thread topic for the next stage. Do not start a political debate in this thread! It is not our goal here to defend our personal political positions or to judge any stage, but simply to compile examples. Thanks for your help! I'm excited to see what kind of juicy stuff you dig up. Try to be selective with your choices. This can turn into a really cool list. Stage Green Values: Love, heart, soul, empathy, intimacy, kindness Compassion, mercy, leniency Humanism, liberalism, social progress Equality: gender, race, economic Everyone is equal Egalitarianism/Democracy Anti-materialist, anti-consumerist, anti-greed Social conscience Supporting humanitarian causes Activism & protests Live-and-let-live attitude Diversity, multiculturalism Cosmopolitanism Flattening hierarchies Cultural relativism Relationships, bonding Pacifism, peace Finding common ground Harmony Human well-being Interpersonal skills Warm interaction, hugs Pleasing everyone Sensitivity Femininity Teamwork Dialoguing Sharing ideas and feelings Mind-altering drugs Exploring altered states of consciousness Spirituality Spiritual but not religious Communal spirituality Environment, ecology Back to nature Sustainability Recycling Human-centered, heart-centered communities Protect the vulnerable, help the downtrodden Redistribution of resources, level playing field Inclusiveness, everyone gets an opportunity Don’t exclude anyone Tolerance Openmindedness Free love, intimate sex Sex education Cooperation vs competition Animals, children, the disabled, minorities Creativity, beauty, art Gurus Bringing people of the world together Socialism Crying, expressing vulnerable emotions Intuition over logic Right brained Health food & exercise Stage Green Examples: Burning Man, hippies, New Age, Green party, Greenpeace, vegans, vegetarians, liberals, progressives, Democrats, Bernie Sanders, Obama, TYT, Bill Maher, The Daily Show, Jon Stewart, Stephen Colbert, Sam Seder’s Majority Report, John Oliver, Democracy Now, “liberal news media”, Vox, VICE, New York Times, MSNBC hosts, CNN hosts, Keith Olbermann, Michael Moore, Al Gore, Donny Deutsch, Noam Chomsky, Sean Penn, Al Franken, social workers, community organizers, spiritual meet up groups, university culture, SJWs, political correctness, LGBTQ rights, gender pronouns, protecting minorities, post-modernism, feminism, “Neo-Marxists”, abortion rights, planned parenthood, pacifism, ACLU, #MeToo, Antifa, support groups, tree huggers, bleeding hearts, Care Bears, animal rights, anti-war protests, Occupy Wall Street, charities, non-profits, NGOs, organic farming, organic food, recycling, global warming, music festivals, flower child, 60’s counter-culture, Haight Ashbury, Woodstock, the Beatniks, The Beatles, John Lennon, Bob Marley, Willie Nelson, marijuana legalization, psychedelics, Timothy Leary, Terence McKenna, Ram Dass, psychotherapy, progressive school teachers, liberal supreme court judges, 9th circuit court of appeals, socialists, redistribution of wealth, drum circles, neo-shamans, communes, Doctors Without Borders, universal healthcare, sensitivity training, non-denominational churches, health food stores, Wholefoods, Wholefoods rabbit meat, Western yoga, Reiki, Western Buddhism, massage therapy, chiropractors, naturopaths, meditation as a fad, TM, crystals, yoni eggs, juice cleanses, detox, green smoothies, colonics, spas, scented candles, burning incense, aromatherapy, tie-dye shirts, Kombucha, probiotics, soy, gluten-free, farmer’s markets, non-GMO, Fair Trade, Che Guevara, Oprah, Nelson Mandela, Pope Francis, anti-vaxers, Hollywood politics, save the whales, Esalen institute, humanistic psychology, transpersonal psychology, co-ops, Montessori schools, Scandinavia, the Scandinavian prison system, California, San Francisco, Oregon, Austin, Mass, Sedona AZ, NY, Seattle, Hawaii, Canada, Northern Europe, Germany, Netherlands, Switzerland, Iceland, denuclearization, equal pay, free college for all, basic universal income, amnesty, affirmative action, gun control, assault weapons ban, pro-Union, pro-EPA, cutting defense spending, open borders, higher taxes, lenient penalties, abolish death penalty, drug rehab centers, homeopathy, astrology, hypnosis, the Bill Gates Foundation, Dr. Albert Schweitzer, MLK, JFK, RFK, life coaching, children’s rights advocates, protecting endangered species, mentoring programs, helping the elderly, cleaning up the environment, back to Earth movement, cotton clothing, minimalism, Peace Corps, plot of Avatar, civil rights, human rights, watchdog groups, Prius, Tesla, Smart car, electric scooters, commuting on bicycles, solar power, wind power, renewable energy, corporate culture at Google & Apple, warning stickers, safety codes, talk therapy, grown men crying, Utopian communes, Mind Valley, Into The Wild: Chris McCandless, the UN, cultural appropriation, activists, local co-ops, mental health professionals, teachers, the Ultra Spiritual guy, Tantric sex, ayahausca retreats, conscientious objectors, yin-yang & peace tattoos, Osho’s ashram, Russell Brand

That's not true at all. Most people who listen to Ralston will not be able to do 5% of what he does.

Anything that doesn't make him more defensive.

Don't squeeze him please. It is counter-productive.

I know what he is talking about. But that is irrelevant because most people will not be able to do it. He is like Henry Cavill telling you: "Just walk up and ask for her number, bro. It works for me."

It is not a personal attack. His view is quite biased. Please don't take that personally.

That is true. But you said more than that above.

In the end is the key word. The spiritual journey is long and winding.

Spiritual people suffer more, not less. Because they have to face more truth. A regular person can just go get drunk. A spiritual person can't.

Notice how mortality tries to invent a faux version of immortality, while avoiding the actual Immortality. Classic inversion. Reminds me of Trump's Truth Social.

Eventually you will realize your view is too self-biased. Sounds like it might take you years to realize that.

"End unnecessary suffering". The title of this thread! Lol Many people here are trying hard not to suffer. This is a very real and common trap. It's very counter-intuitive because the more you try to not suffer, the more you'll suffer from failing at it. As spiritual people, our superego tells us: "You shouldn't be suffering this much, you're the spiritual one! What's wrong with you?! You should be better than this. You should be like that monk who lit himself on fire."

He does hate Greens. So he is conservative. But Trump is too selfish to be a serious conservative. Being a serious conservative requires a humility and fear of God that Trump doesn't have. The conservative part of Trump is the part that hates being moralized to and limited by Green conscience.

@JoshB

Rather than trying to not suffer, be okay with your suffering.

Talk to them normally, then at the end say something like, "Say, you're cute. Let's swap numbers and we can grab a drink sometime."

Rather than trying "pick up girls", just sit next to girls you like and start talking normal with them. Ask them some shit like why they are taking that class and what her dreams are. Don't try to use pickup lines on them. Just be curious about them, ask questions, and grab a number at the end.

Tell that to a kangaroo.

I wish Neil DeGrasse Tyson would ask me where God came from.

Can't call them that since they reject magic. That's called a geek

I would like to be less biased towards women. I'm personally working on that. And I hope you guys do the same. This is a natural consequence of our commitment towards Truth. Truth should make us less biased.