Leo Gura

It depends, some of them are Blue. Many of them are a mix of Red/Blue. Hitler was the epitome of ethnocentrism: my race, my people, my civilization is superior to all others. Hitler also had Red aspects because he had a lust for absolute personal power. Religion is almost always a part of one's ethnicity. Religion does not exist in a vacuum. If you are religious, your religion was indoctrinated into you as part of your culture and geographic location. If not for that, you would not be religious. You might be spiritual, but not religious. Religion is culture. And their own culture is what ethnocentrists strive to defend. Jews are a great example of how ethnicity and religion go hand in hand. Not a genius, but integral and multi-perspectival and well-read/educated. It does not have to be formal education, but you must read books. That chart is not comprehensive. There are many examples which were not shown due to space restrictions. Hippies need a more cerebral integral approach. More book smarts. Learning systems thinking would help them. And studying Spiral Dynamics would help them a lot. Also, laying off the weed might help them A nonlinear, hyper-intuitive sort of rationality which is more right-brain dominant vs left-brain dominant, and which focuses on holistic big picture thinking rather than technical analysis or linear logical proofs. Vision-logic fuses rationality with intuition, consciousness, and high emotional intelligence. Albert Einstein is a great example of vision-logic. He was not the typical cold-hearted, paint-by-numbers academic. Also, Richard Feynman is a good example. Vision-logic is more playful, whimsical, creative, than traditional logic and very importantly it can handle paradox, which traditional logic cannot. Douglas Hofstadter is a good example of vision-logic.

@billiesimon Maybe. On the other hand a lot of Roman art was a glorification of Red military conquest, power, and domination. Is the Colosseum Red or Blue? Is Trajan's Column Red or Blue?

It takes a lot of research to understand the details of how each of those lines evolves. Some of the lines are not very well documented. Although the Metaphysical/Spiritual line is very well documented and I've basically addressed it in my Spiral Dynamics mini-series whenever I talked about religion, spirituality, or mysticism. Stage Blue is dogmatically religious Stage Orange turns materialistic science & rationality into a religion Stage Green is "spiritual but not religious" -- hippie spirituality Stage Yellow is open to mystical ideas but doesn't have direct mystical insight yet. Sort of a conceptual spirituality. Stage Turquoise is having lots of mystical experiences and very aware of the oneness of everything

You realize that 40% of Romans were slaves? And that Rome was run by bloodthirsty Emperors many of whom back-stabbed each other? Ancient Athenes was pretty advanced but it disintegrated rather quickly amidst all of the low consciousness carnage in the area. The tallest blade of grass gets cut the soonest. The HBO series Rome is a good depiction of life in stage Red. It's actually very similar to the politics of Game Of Thrones. Everyone is scheming to undo everyone else. Of course Rome did have some stage Blue aspects to it. Marcus Aurelius was a fine example of a Blue emperor. Like I said about center of gravity, to say that Rome was Red is to say that 50% of it was Red, 25% Purple, 25% Blue. You see roughly that mix in the HBO Rome show.

@Nahm Time for you to schedule that acid trip, buddy

Ooops! Misspelled Scandinavia

1) That's all grist for the self development mill. The irritation other people cause you shows you which aspects of yourself need more work. They only irritate the ego, not the True Self. This is what I mean when I say life is a love simulator. You are being challenged to love more in the face of criticism and hatred. It requires courage to face and surrender your deepest fears. 2) Keep studying the model more. Read some of the books about it. Then it will be really easy to see where you're at. This model requires at least 20-30 hours of study and contemplation to start to understand. And some reading. It is a big investment, but it will be worth it. 3) My pleasure

1) You can't cure a fool. He has to outgrow his own foolishness. Expect to be judged a lot by lower stages. Maybe even expect that they will kill you one day for your consciousness. 2) Higher stages have much less of those things. Life feels better at higher stages. So it's very much worth developing. Compare living in Saudi Arabia vs the US or Northern Europe. Where would you want to live if you were a woman or a minority? 3) Each of you is different. Most of you are Orange/Green probably. But some of you are Yellow/Turquoise.

Do the practices!

200ug is too high. Start lower.

@Gligorije Anger and fear are different. Anger is often a smokescreen to mask the true emotion: hurt. The ego hates to admit it is vulnerable, so it likes to act macho when it is hurt by acting angry. Anger is always about something that happened to you in the past. Hurt exists in the past. Fear is about worry of something bad happening in the future. Angry people are usually just hurt people who are in denial about it. The solution is to investigate the hurt. Give yourself the love that others never gave you.

@zambize Take a psychedelic and see for yourself. All of these questions you have will be answered.

@korbes It's actually really easy. Pretend like you are trying to fog up a mirror with your breath. But then close your mouth, letting the air go out through the nose. Experiment with various degrees of constriction of the throat until you get a nice sound going and it feels solid. Your throat needs to constrict almost as much as possible in order to slow down the air as much as possible, so you can do long slow breaths. It's almost like sucking in air through a straw. But you are using your throat as the straw.

They are worse than traditional religion. They are a legit cult. They will psychologically manipulate and exploit you. I will talk about the dangers of cults and how they work in the future.

Breathing is always done through the nose.

@the_wanderer Yes, that is a little taste of enlightenment, but enlightenment can also go much deeper, and there can be various facets to it. How do you make it stick? By doing lots of practices like self-inquiry until your entire reality is deconstructed.

@zambize There exist some things which cannot be gotten at with words. So how do you go about talking about such things to people who have not experienced them? Here we are. If we didn't call it nonduality what would be call it? How would we let you know this thing exists? Maybe we should call it "chicken" from now on and see if that solves the problem. There is no way to get around the fact that incommunicable things exist. You can try for a million years and you will never solve this problem. Because an unspeakable thing cannot be spoken, by definition.

@Outer He's not sure if gay marriage is acceptable. Why talk about make up at all in the context of sexual harassment? It's irrelevant. Unless you're looking for a scapegoat.

That's what a Green transition looks like. Rules do need to be figured out, but he makes it seems like men and women can't work together in the same place for 40 years.

@cetus56 Mine is slightly better. It's called the MAGA Toilet. The bottom of the bowl is a large carved relief of Hillary Clinton's face and it has a giant protrusion at the front of the bowl to accomodate one's extra large balls and dong

That's just a clever rhetorical trick. He plays this trick a lot. He implies a conservative position but then he never commits to it outright because it would sound ridiculous even to him. He DID seriously consider the possibilty that women should not wear make up. He is in the business of playing ideological mind games, not actually offering practical solutions. He did the same thing with his enforced "enforced monogamy" comment. JP's whole game is to say deliberately controversial and backwards things, and then dial it back to something half-reasonable. This gets him all of this clicks and views. The rules are whatever we want them to be. They can be very simple: don't slap a woman's ass and be more sensitive to her POV as a man. Don't abuse a position of power to coerce women to sleep with you. But this would require admitting that feminism has validity. Which he does not want to do.

@captainamerica 1) Try a psychedelic and you will immediately understand. This is not possible to understand conceptually. You must experience it. 2) Hmmm... that's a bit tricky because all of those things are conceptual. What you can see is how your mind constructs those things. You can see the metaphysical and epistemic substrate of those things. Psychedelics certainly make you 100x more creative. But it will not necessarily be productive in the way your ego-mind wants. It will be far more profound than that. You basically will not care about science and math at this level of depth. They will seem shallow and insignificant compared to metaphysics. During one of my solo retreats I did randomly invent a cool new patentable invention. No psychedelics were used. Just lots of meditation. The more conscious you become the more creative you become.

Nothing even comes close to the strength of armodafinil other than LSD or the like. Armodafinil is like a mild psychedelic.

I will fly to London and you guys can just sit and watch me sleep from the jetlag for 2 hours followed by Q&A