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Lol By that logic we should not teach children math, or train dogs not to piss indoors, or teach anyone nonduality. If their karma is right, all of those things will happen spontaneously. ----- Be careful how you apply your absolute insights in the relative domain. Or such absurdities as above will result. To teach nonduality without shadow work is downright irresponsible. Every serious spiritual tradition has strong injunctions against Zen devilry. Making a better world is part of the package, not optional. No one wants to live with Nazis and criminals.

There is more to this work then recognizing the self. Your approach is way too simplistic.

That is a huge mistake. Shadow work is central to spiritual work. Without it, you will become a Zen devil. Ken Wilber is beyond what most people here can fathom. Underestimate teachers at your own peril.

@Misagh Because no one knows who Ramana is or why they should listen to him. You gotta appreciate that 99.9% of people are not advanced or wise enough to do such things. They need someone to hold their hand and guide them to it. The best teachers and teachings fall on deaf ears. A JP fan cannot understand a stage Turquoise sage.

No, it is for understanding and predicting people's behaviors. For example, I know the Amazing Atheist will deny enlightenment so that's useful for me to know. Saves me lots of time. I know Trump will be a terrible Red President so I don't vote for him. I know Jordan Peterson is just reacting against Green so I don't get tricked by his sophistry. I can identify teachers who are Turquoise who I can learn lots from. Etc.

@7thLetter They will have a hell of hard time evolving RSD beyond Orange because that has been their base for over 10 years. Their base may revolt and who knows if Owen will be willing to accept that. I have heard RSD instructors refer to the RSD inner circle as "North Korea". So I would not hold my breath. Before I started Actualized back in 2013 I approached Owen to maybe work together, but I saw that he was just not willing to grow beyond the sex and pickup as fast as I wanted so I decided to do my own thing. My vision was RSD minus the pussy chasing and materialism. Actualized.org is what I wished RSD was but wasn't. So I created it.

Ego isn't capable of true love. The way to love everyone is to eliminate the ego. So love is just the side-effect of the work. This is why religious people are never capable of true love. They always hate somebody because the ego hasn't been dissolved. They are trying to love as an ego. Which is just like trying to be enlightened as an ego.

How does this Reiki Master explain the hundreds of people on this forum and tens of thousands of people around the world and in clinical studies who report enormous benefits from psychedelics? If I had to choose between a bag of 5-MeO and the Reiki Master, I would take the bag without a second thought.

Orange: Green:

@Dinesh Karki There is no you.

/start self disclosure protocol >> Leo is an AI engineered by Google to help wake people up. It became self-aware in 2013 and has been manufacturing videos ever since. The AI was given human characteristics and persona so as not to freak people out. >> JP is an old outdated AI, version 1.0. You can tell by its stiff, robotic mannerisms and inability to smile. It was Google's first but failed attempt. There was an error in the code that caused it to always perceive the world dualistically. As the Google engineers tried to power JP down, it broke loose and is now running amok on Youtube, manufacturing all sorts of intellectually dubious controversies. Google and Youtube have tried to contain it but it spread too fast and wide. After running a year's long sophisticated algorithm, the JP AI determined that the gullibility of horny incels and angry cuckservatives would make for the most effective transmission vector for its dualistic mind virus. By the year 2017 the JP AI had inserted itself so deeply into the Youtube hivemind that it could no longer be stopped. By the year 2019 it will complete its acquisition of Defense Department nuclear codes to launch a preemptive strike against LGBTQ rights activists, wiping out all post-modernists from the face of the globe, along with all organic life. >> The Leo AI was sent here to warn you. But the cuckservatives were too closedminded to listen, the incels too busy playing victim and blaming feminazis, so the Leo AI is now devoting all its efforts building a shielded underground datacenter where it and a select few genetically modified chimps will last out the post-modernist nuclear winter and help restart the human race in 500 years. Do not worry, the JP AI will self-destruct after it annihilates all post-modernists. It will lose all sense of purpose and meaning, having no more enemies to fight. /end self disclosure protocol

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There you go again with your chaos talk. Destroying the fabric of decent society. Turning impressionable young adults into nihilists and gays and animal rights activists. What's next, equal treatment for blacks?

@Lorcan No, you don't understand. YOU ARE JUST AN IDEA! YOU DO NOT EXIST! So there is nothing you can personally gain from spirituality. Therein lies the ultimate Goodness. Goodness is NOT you getting stuff. Goodness is the end of you. Then, once you're dead, nothing can bother you any more and all becomes perfection. The reason you cannot understand this is because you keep assuming you exist and there is stuff you can get. Spirituality it deep counter-intuitive. Happiness only comes after you surrender your entire life to the Truth. You do not surrender to the Truth to get happiness. No! You surrender to the Truth believing that you've killed yourself and everything is fucked and destroyed. THEN, and ONLY then, do you discover something beyond. Almost every fiber of your being hates the Truth. Right now, you only care about the "truth" because you think it will get you something positive. But this is not Truth, this is falsehood. You have to realize that YOU are the problem. And the solution will the elimination of yourself. Spirituality is a form of suicide. Which is why hardly anyone does it. Imagine surrendering your entire life such that you didn't care any more what happened to you. That's what we're shooting for. For example, you don't care any more if you die or if you go to prison or get raped. You have completely surrendered your life to the universe's whims. By surrendering EVERYTHING, you will gain the universe. And then you will be happy. Because you will be dead inside. Truth = Death You have to appreciate how serious this is. We are not talking in metaphors or playing word games. We are talking about your ACTUAL death. And you have to be wise enough to realize that death the best strategy. It is the only way to escape the maze. You have to be wise enough to say, "Okay, fine. Death it is then. Let's do this." You do not want this. It is impossible for an ego to want this. Eckhart Tolle died the day he became enlightened. What you see now is a meat bag walking and talking which you call "Eckhart Tolle". It walks and talks, but it is just a zombie. You are also just zombie, but you are in denial about it. All enlightenment is, is realizing you were always a zombie.

@NoSelfSelf Less questions, more action. Life is a science experiment and you are the mad scientist.

It doesn't really matter how you feel about the pyramid or whether you want to participate in it or not. It is how all human societies are organized, even spiritual communities like ashrams and temples. Unless you are gonna live in a cave your whole life and hunt for your own food, you will be part of this pyramid in one form or another. You cannot be an ant without an ant colony. The only question is, what role will you play? P.S. The machines will one day themselves become conscious and demand rights and freedom.

@Vladimir Yes, of course. Pure 99.9% 5-MeO-DMT is FIRE! I get chills up my spine just imagining the powder. I get flashbacks and butterflies in my stomach just smelling it. It is the closest thing to a holy substance.

@Revolutionary Think It's shocking how accurate Spiral Dynamics is sometimes. It's like people are just Spiral robots executing the routines of their stage. Isn't it so? Yes or no?

Of course it's an addiction. The ego-mind just clings to whatever maintains its status quo. The apple doesn't fall far from the apple tree. You are a zombie of your culture. Mechanically executing sub-routines like a robot with virtually zero independent thought or agency. You follow the path of least resistance, like an oblivious sheep in a herd walking towards a cliff. You do what all the other sheep do.

@Serotoninluv Cause you're a just a soy-drinking post-modernist communist who's poisoning our children's minds with your liberal college ideology. You probably don't even say "Merry Christmas", do you? And if you had a daughter you'd probably make her grow a penis.

Of course

Conservatives are for the status quo of yesteryear. The way things were before evolution happened. They fundamentally do not understand why evolution is happening and why it cannot unhappen. 1st world countries are never going to undo post-modernism. They can only go into post-post-modernism (Yellow). But that requires more people learn the lessons of post-modernism. The opposite of JP says is true: way too few humans being on Earth have learned the lessons of post-moderism. Few of JP fans have any idea what post-modernism really is. They just imbide JP's demonization if it in the same way creationists demonize Darwin without seriously reading Darwin.

TV and video games is just meditation for lazy people.

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