Leo Gura

Science and mysticism will converge and co-evolve. But science as a conceptual activity will never really grasp the Absolute. Science must become the hand-maiden of mysticism.

That's called mysticism. Lol. And it's been around for at least 10,000 years.

@TheAvatarState No, that is not correct. That definition of science is woefully inadequate to really understand what science is. Science is a conceptual, symbolic activity. It is impossible to do science without concepts or language. Yet no concepts are ever reality. So how do you resolve that? Yes, superficially science relies on observation, but then it turns those observations into a conceptual construct. Spirituality also relies on observation, but it turns observation into Being (if done properly) -- which science can never do. Science must always miss being for concept, not-knowing for knowing. If you think you're gonna know enlightenment, you're wrong. You can only not-know it. It is critical that you transcend the entire domain of knowledge. What we're talking about with spirituality is NOT knowledge! Notice how big of a problem this presents for you, since all you know, is knowledge!

That's still too much at the level of intellect. You say that, but you're still playing the games because your ego thinks it's getting something valuable out of them. You haven't fully realized the significance of that statement. Relativity still runs your whole life, and you still treat the relative as though it has absolute value. Which is why you still cling to things, why you still have fear, anger, frustration, worry, negativity, etc. And why you struggle so hard to manipulate life every day, yet you keep failing and failing and disappointing yourself. The quantity of suffering you experience every day is a measure of how little you are conscious of the above statement. Suffering comes from not being conscious of relativity, treating the relative as absolute.

@Serotoninluv Yes, you can do that. But also understand that you have not fully realized the Absolute yet. When your ego-mind is completely deconstructed, you will realize, much to your ego's shock, that all knowledge is conceptual, and not Being or Truth. It's gonna be quite problematic for you to do science once you're fully conscious that past & future, and cause & effect are not real. But if you ever reach that far, you also won't care, because by this point you'll be dead. And then you'll be a happy mystic without a care in the world. Could you still do science after that? Probably. But would you still want to? You gotta really wonder? Why do you do science at all? Why invest the time into it? What do you lack that it gives you?

Sure, but the map is never the territory. Science is always conceptual, partial, and relative, never Absolute. Which is why most mystics don't care too much about science. It's an endless game of relativity. The problem with science is that it refuses to recognize its limits. Science is arrogant and foolish in this regard.

What needs to be grokked is that consciousness cannot be explained. The problem here is way deeper than science can understand. No knowledge or explanation is ever Truth or Being. The only way to understand consciousness is to not-know it. But science is not in the business of not-knowing, it's in the business of knowing. So that cannot work. Consciousness cannot be formalized because all formalization is finite while consciousness is infinite. Consciousness has already been perfectly explained, so to speak, by mysticism. As soon as you understand consciousness you stop being a scientist and become a mystic by definition.

It is everything, and everything includes this right now.

@mark eldridge You cannot do that. The Absolute cannot be known. Anything you know is not it. Being is not knowing, and knowing is not being. If you want to access Absolute Infinity sit down and stare at your hand. Your hand is it. Stare at it until it stops being your hand. Stop knowing your hand. The Absolute is identical to the actual present moment.

All my pranayamas are the same. I visualize the prana flowing up the spine from chakra 1 to very tip top of the head, and then back down. I forget is that's KP1, KP2, or KP3. Ideally you'd sit and concentrate. I'm often short on time so I just get on with life. To me, the value is in the physical rewiring effects of the pranayama. If I had more time I would concentrate more. Do nothing is also viable in my opinion.

@Matt23 Well, you might also want to work on developing some practical skills like public speaking, coaching, teachings, mentoring, etc. Think about what kind of practical skills would enable your LP. You could train to become a therapist for example, etc. There are many such opportunities. Since you live in the real world you're gonna have to build a set of stepping stones which move you up to your ultimate vision. Try to find a way to make a living that aligns with your LP at least somewhat. For example, becoming a therapist might be a great way to learn about helping people with their spiritual problems while also earning good money. Then you could transcend traditional therapy and do more spiritual type of retreats or workshops or coaching. Actualizing a big LP usually requires several such practical career moves. You can't just become exactly what you want in one step in most cases. Although if you were really serious, you could beocme a full-time monk and become enlightened within a few years.

Ignorant, dogmatic, and virulent subcultures have existed from the dawn of humanity and will continue to exist for centuries to come. Devils can't help but build congregations of devils. The devil likes company

Definitely try plugging. It's a very different experience from smoking. Although you can't plug toad venom, you'll need synthetic. Blackout or whiteout is not good. The whole point of 5-MeO is that it's crystal clear and answers all questions. So far you haven't got it. Also try other psychedelics. LSD or mushrooms can easily give you nondual consciousness. With psychedelics it's very important that you don't overshoot with your dose. Less is better. At least for newbies. Psychedelics require at least 10-20 trips to start to get a handle on how they work. 1-5 trips is just not enough because there is too much variabilty between trips. Sometimes trips are duds or go sideways.

I will, after you do some 5-MeO

Step 1: LSD mind-meld with an Orca and suck out all his juicy social knowledge Step 2: Profit!

Those who are doing the work aren't here yapping about it. What you need to realize is that the answers are all found inside you. When are you gonna get serious about self-observation and contemplation? When you do, you won't really need this place. It'll be only for amusement and maybe sharing a resource or two.

Just look at the picture and find those spots on your body with your fingers at first, and then visualize them in your mind's eye and feel them through your body. There will be nothing there to feel per se. You're just going to imagine it for now. Ballpark it. Don't be a perfectionist. This is weak-sauce. Get to the fucking pranayamas and do at least 24 of them per day. Steven's routines are far too spaced out. Do them faster. It doesn't takes 4 months to learn how to do pranayama. You can learn it in a few days. Do not over-complicate this. My routine is the same as I last posted. I do 3 sets of Mahamudra, 3 sets of pranayama (36 total pranayama), and 3 breaths of fire. This takes me about 1h 20m Keep it this simple. Don't over-complicate things. Over time just increase the potency with which you feel and visualize the pranayamas. They are the key to this whole thing. So do them with real intent and feeling. Each breath upwards should feel like it's filling your skull with enlightenment. Suck that prana up your spine and into your skull like it's an actual fluid in your body.

Be careful with how you throw around that word "depression". Clinically, it ain't depression until you've had it chronically for 6 months or more. Don't confuse an ego backlash or temporary shitty mood or some spiritual emotional upheaval with depression. There will be many times in your spiritual journey where you feel sad or dejected or lazy or agitated. These usually last for a few days, maybe a week, and then go away. That is all just trickery of the ego-mind. Totally normal. If it lasts for 3 months straight, okay, now maybe you should give it some serious consideration and stop meditation and seek some help.

In my opinion you'd have a much higher likelihood of success with a year of Kriya yoga. But I haven't tried 1 year of SDS, so I can't say for sure. I don't know why you guys are not doing Kriya yoga. It's the most powerful natural technique I've found. All of you should be doing it religiously. Yet I sense that very few of you are. I've shared so many amazing tools with you guys. Why aren't you using them?

That is not going to address depression, friends will only mask it. There is nothing wrong with friends, but they will not solve any existential problems for you.

Stuff has been delayed as I focus on my own development so that I can better serve in the long run.

The wisest people use Bitcoin to acquire the Holy Grail

That's good. But that's peanuts compared to what I'm talking about. Quantity of meditation alone is not enough. You must do more than meditate, you must deconstruct and become conscious of how ego runs your entire life from sunrise to sunset. You must infuse consciousness into your thinking process and your emoting. Make sure you watch my The 10 Ox Herding Pictures video. It's very important for people like you.

No, this is false. Look carefully at the present moment. It has no suffering in it. Suffering is ALL mind. Stop fucking around, stop playing mind games, and observe how your mind is creating suffering. You ARE doing it! Notice this. Your mind is subtly interpreting and projecting negative meaning onto the present moment. You must look carefully to spot yourself doing this. From now on, every time you feel bad, you ask yourself "How am I creating this feeling? What must I believe to feel this way? What must I think to feel this way?" I can tell you exactly what happened to you. You got lucky and caught a solid glimpse of the Ox because my video blindsided your ego. It hit you out of blue, thus bypassing many egoic defense mechanisms. But your mind did not have a solid enough foundation to permanently hold this insight. The ego figured out a way to reassert itself and now it has doubled its defense mechanisms. It will not allow another easy, lucky break. Now you're gonna have to work for it. My guess is you are depressed because you want that enlightenment back and yet you don't know how go get it back. You thought catching a glimpse of the Ox was gonna solve all your problems and make life peachy without any serious spiritual work. And now you are starting to see that was just a fantasy. This is why you're depressed. But the truth is, you just got lucky. It was never really gonna hold because you have not done almost any work decontructing that big fat ego. You cannot be enlightened and maintain all of your habitual daily egoic manipulations, beliefs, attitudes, etc. All of that needs to be broken down piece by piece. You need to undo yourself and your life. The way you carry yourself every minute of every day IS ego! All of your emtional reactions and thought patterns must be purified through patient observation and contemplation. Stop thinking of enlightenment as a magic pill. You must also become deeply conscious of your daily actions, thoughts, and emotions. Enlightnement is only likely to stick if your entire mind is deconstructed. So cheer up and begin that procees. Cheer up because you were even so lucky as to get a 10 day glimpse. That takes most people YEARS of work. You got it for free. Yes, finding God and then losing God is very frustrating. But also totally normal and common in this work. Awaking up is not like flipping a light switch, it's more like a kid playing with a light switch, flickering it on and off many many times.

What people fail to get is that consciousness isn't a thing, it is nothing. If you think of consciousness as a thing, as a substance, as experiential phenomena, as form, or as a state, then it will seem that there is something prior to consciousness. But really there is not. If you hold that there is 1) consciousness, and 2) something prior to it, that's two things! Which is duality. Regardless of which labels you wish to use, in the end your ultimate understanding of reality better contain only 1 thing! Otherwise it's still a subtle duality. The most important thing is to realize ONENESS, and why it cannot be anything but ONE. Whatever you choose to call that ONE is then a matter of style. "Consciousness" and "awareness" are very tricky words. Be careful what you assume about these words. Consciousness and awareness are not what you assume they are. You will only appreciate that at the moment of enlightenment. Psychedelics help suss out what consciousness really is and how it behaves.