Leo Gura

If you want to get a fair sense of Green politics I suggest you check out the YouTube channel, Majority Report. They are the epitome of Green, but notice that they are not some kooky student activist with utopian ideas. Their political analysis is sharp, nuanced, pragmatic, and intelligent -- despite their biases. They are smart socialists and if you listen to them long enough you might become a socialist yourself. Of course, they are not Yellow. So don't expect them to be as wise as Yellow or the stuff I share on Actualized. Nor am I suggesting you should become a socialist. Just make sure you are getting a fair assessment of each stage. Look for the best examples of each stage, not the worst. You can find monstrous and kooky people at each stage if you look hard enough. For example, I could smear all of stage Orange as being like Trump. But that would be very unfair to Orange. He is like the worst of the worst of Orange. For another great example of Green see Bernie Sanders. He's not some kook. He's got a very sensible agenda and his value system is very advanced. Good luck finding a politician with a more advanced value system and higher integrity.

Well, how to start a business is a HUGE topic & skill set all on its own. There are thousands of books, courses, videos, seminars, workshops, and trainings available on this topic. It would be relatively easy to set up a web programming business where you get clients to pay you so that your small team of programmers can code their website or app. There is a near endless demand for high quality web programming teams. If you were smart you could manage such a team remotely. You could have a 100% virtual programming business by hiring good programmers from overseas like in Eastern Europe or India. Of course all of this requires business & project management skills. But that's not too hard to learn if you are serious. You could easily make 6 figures like this. And that's just one idea.

Yes. The intention of such Green people is fairness for oppressed minorities. Which is a fairly evolved set of values. It is much more evolved than those who cry "white genocide" or complain about the war on Christmas or white males. The problem is that people like JP and the alt-right media have created a demonized stereotype out of these post-modernist Marxist types. They do not really exist. JP and his ilk have taken like 1% of the most extreme Green folks and smeared all of Green with that. They've created a straw man out of Green and of course the straw man is easy to knock down. But Green is not that straw man. There are many very serious, sane, sober, lovely Green people. And they are higher than JP and his ilk. Radical feminist activists in universities DO NOT represent the majority of stage Green. Imagine if I smeared all of stage Orange as greedy capitalist pigs who exploit children in sweatshops and kill polar bears for fun. I could create a whole YT channel about that and get millions of followers to agree with my selective outrage. I could create 100's of videos of children in sweatshops, big oil spills, and corporate corruption. That's analogous to what JP and the alt-right media is doing to Green. The reality is much more nuanced. The biggest tragedy is that JP and his ilk are missing several key lessons from post-modernism. Regardless of any excesses or faults, post-modernism made crucial intellectual discoveries which are being denied by JP. Like the relativity of all cultures, all value systems, and the socially constructed nature of all categories and paradigms. This is very important to understand into order to create a peaceful and well-functioning world. You are not a serious intellectual if you think that the white race's value system or the capitalist value system is objectively superior to others. The acknowledgment of relativity is vital to the development of higher levels of morality. Stage Orange sorely lacks the understanding of relativity. It also fails to appreciate the importance of collectivism -- since we do live in a community. We are not individuals who get to do whatever we please. Is it an accident that JP is a climate change denier? He's even in denial that he's in denial! This is not going to cut it in the future. We need a lot more ecological awareness if we want to thrive.

@caelanb It can be tricky because the ego is always self-biased and self-deceptive. It will tell itself it knows more than it does. You can count on this. But if your intent for truth is genuine and you are forcing yourself to self-reflect and question all of your beliefs, that should ultimately lead you closer and closer to the truth. You have to be brutally honest with yourself or else you will settle for wishful and self-biased delusions. Psychedelics help a lot too. On psychedelics you clearly see what genuine insight feels like. It is undeniable and transcends all belief, ideology, or speculation. It also helps to have great teachers and great books to keep your egotistical fantasies in check.

@EternalForest You have a very specific type of job with very specific skill set. So all you got to do is build up more of those skills and build an awesome portfolio which showcases your skills. While you are job-hunting, spend the rest of your time building your audio engineering skills & portfolio. If you end up working at Walmart, keep building your audio engineering skills on the evenings and weekends. After a few years of that you'll get your desired job. If you can afford to take 6 to 12 months off to focus solely on building your skills, that would be ideal. In 12 months of full-time skill-building you should be a very solid entry-level audio engineer candidate. That's how I got my first job as a video game designer. When you are applying for jobs, you should be applying all around the country, not just in your city.

@EternalForest It's actually not that hard to get a good job. But it requires that you offer value to the employer rather than being a leech. What job do you want? What skills do you have? Are you showcasing your skills well with a portfolio? These days training yourself and building skills is easier than ever. You must train yourself and then show evidence to your employer of your skills and your willingness to learn further on the job. Building a great portfolio is a MUST as far as I'm concerned. With a great portfolio you will eliminate all your competition. People being more experienced than you is not a significant factor because those people also demand a higher salary. Employers are always looking for people with low experience because they need people to do grunt work and those who will work for lower salaries. You are not competing with people with 5-10 years of experience. You are competing with people who have 1-2 years of experience, which you can provide for yourself. "Experience" does not have to mean that you were a salaried employee during that time. Experience could mean: you working on a project in your mother's basement.

That was a little glimpse of no-self. A little glimpse of Truth. There's much more. So keep digging.

@Cudin Well, the more conscious you become, the more you will start to notice synchronicities. So nothing surprising about that. Perspective is everything. The divine is all around you, if you have the eye for it.

Well, the devil is in the details of course. You'd have to brainstorm some solutions, informed by your understanding of Spiral Dynamics. Maybe you'd want to help reform the system and relationship, or maybe you'd just move on to greener pastures It all depends. Generally, you cannot change a thing which doesn't want to change. So you could work with your girlfriend so long as she was open to growing and learning about Spiral Dynamics. Changing an Orange workplace is probably a no-go. You'd be better off finding a Green workplace or starting your own.

@karkaore This was already explained in earlier videos. You can be enlightened and still a racist. Because your level of Spiral development might be ethnocentric Blue. Awakening is not development. And development is not awakening.

The research is not called "spiral dynamics" per se. What we're talking about here is the entire field of Development Psychology which includes hundreds of researchers. Ken Wilber does a good job of integrating and mentioning many of the researchers. Here are but a few names: Jane Lovinger Piaget Kurt Fischer Robert Kegan Susanne Cook-Greuter Kohlberg Gilligan Jean Gebser Maslow Clare Graves, Don Beck It takes work on your part to integrate all this stuff and see the bigger picture. Do not expect the current state of science or academia to give you the big picture. It gives you tiny fragments which you must piece together.

@Annoynymous I already addressed how to climb the spiral in each of the color videos. You were given a list of ways to move beyond each color in each video. Now you must actually do it.

It sorta is. A spiral is an upwards moving circle. Overall reality seems to move towards greater and greater complexity. Society is becoming more and more complex. There can certainly be collapse, but the idea that humans were more evolved 10,000 years ago than today strikes me as wrong. I do not see how the chaos and egotism of modern society can be avoided through collapse of society. We are more likely to pass through it by growing society, not by abolishing society. I like Shunya overall, but the apocalyptic aspect of his teachings I do not agree with. I once asked him about ancient Rome and he told me how great it was back then without acknowledging that 40% of the population were slaves. Not so great methinks. I will take post-modernity any day.

Ahahahahaha! That Agency and private court would already be owned by the dictator and his cronies. When you come to them to report the crime, they will spit in your face, take your wallet, and laugh you out of the building. Libertarians have no idea how human nature really works. There is no such thing as "without government or rulers". Without rulers, the strongest most ruthless narcissist becomes the ruler, enslaving everyone to his whims. What you are describing is worse than modern day Iraq or Afghanistan.

Blue LOVES to hate Green. Green LOVES to hate Orange.

There are various versions of anarchism as an ideology. There are flavors of it in Orange and flavors of it in even in Green. You have to distinguish anarchy as a political ideology vs actual anarchy, which nobody actually wants. Most ideological anarchy is just mental-masturbation mixed with naivety and inexperience with how the world works. When your daughter is being raped and your mother enslaved, your high ideals of anarchy will fly out the window. The ego is actually terrified of actual anarchy as that means lack of control, disorder, and death. In an anarchic system all that would happen is that the strongest, most ruthless, more power-hungry would enslave you and you family. Order would be installed to serve the dictator. Only you would end up at the bottom of the hierarchy as one of the slaves. Unless maybe you were willing to claw your way to the middle by stabbing people in the back. This is stage Red.

It's like you're saying that 1st grade is closer to 3rd grade because both are odd, while 2nd grade is even. So what? 2nd grade is still closer to 3rd grade. In a sense Green is further away from Turquoise because in its own mind it already thinks it is Turquoise. The similarity actually makes it more self-deceptive and therefore harder to ascend. At least Yellow understands that there is a Turquoise above it. Green often doesn't. There is a big difference between Tier 1 and Tier 2. In this sense Yellow is much closer to Turquoise because they're both Tier 2. The biggest thing Green lacks is the meta-perspective of Tier 2.

@Freyah I'm sure they are are lovely people but I don't use Facebook and I don't participate in any kinds of groups. I'm not really interested in becoming a Spiral Dynamics expert. My job ends with introducing you guys to Spiral Dynamics, which I feel like I've almost completed now. Now it's up to you to do with it what you will. I got bigger fish to fry.

Definitely don't trip in a bad mood. Wait for it to pass. Honestly, it does not sound like you are mature enough to use psychedelics. They may turn out to be a net negative for you. Psychedelics are no joke. They will mindfuck you big time and you must be ready to handle the aftermath. Psychedelics will definitely give you insights about career and depression. The only question is, are you ready to hear the truth?

@Freyah Yes, but I have no interest in participating in a partisan battle between Don Beck's followers and Ken Wilber's. That is like idiocy 2.0. Both men's work is great.

Never forget that slavery exists in all societies except modern and post-modern ones. Anything below modernism will involve tribal warfare, ethnic cleansing, brutal oppression of minorities, rape, racism, and enslavement. Be careful not to romanticize early cultures. They would enslave you and rape your family if given the chance.

I disagree with Ken Wilber's and Shunyamurti's diagnosis of society. The problem is not too much Green, the problem is too much Blue/Orange. At least in American society. Shunyamurti has some wacky ideas about human evolution. He basically believes in cyclical stuff, not evolution or Spiral Dynamics, which to me sounds absurd. I would be very suspicious of anyone who ties to sell you on the idea that society is going to collapse. Maybe it will, but most likely it won't, and either way, society today is far more evolved and better than it ever was in human history. There definitely is a post-modern ego, but that is totally expected. No one ever claimed that post-modernity is a transcendence of ego. There is still ego, but it's far superior to stage Blue or Orange ego. I don't agree with Shunyamurti that society is regressing. In my view, evolution is always progressing and there is zero mistakes in the universe. The design is perfect. Even when there is an apparent regression, it is always progress. Ego is not some new development. Ego was always worse in the past. Post-modernity is not too rampant but far too lacking in society on the whole. In very narrow academic circles it might be too rampant, but academic circles do not at all represent the center of gravity of the population. Academia accounts for less than 1%. The average American has no idea what post-modernity is and could benefit a lot from its lessons. Politically right now in America our problem is not too much post-modernity but too much modernity and traditionalism. Just look at the abject intellectual and moral bankruptcy of the Republican party and their corrupt and abysmal public policy proposals. Conservatives are sticking their head in the sand. JP is one of them. Telling people to worry about the excesses of stage Green right now is a misdiagnosis of the problem. The problem is people who cling to Blue & Orange, and the ideological propaganda being marketed to them by the ilk of JP, Fox News, Steve Bannon, etc. The real problem is an excess of Blue & Orange.

@isabel Try a psychedelic and see. Ideas are not going to explain this to you.

Wilber criticizes Green from the above. JP criticizes Green from below. That's a very big difference. JP's solutions are not Yellow ones but Blue/Orange ones.

Or said another way, the personal self is a concept.