Leo Gura

You are misunderstanding Green. Don't give Green a bad name. Green can be very healthy. In fact, mostly it is. Only in rare exceptions does it get toxic. These days people in the political sphere love to demonize Green and over-exaggerate Green's excesses. If you use the news or YT political commentary to judge Green, you will get a very distorted picture of Green. 80%+ of Green people are moderate and easy-going.

Green never really stops buying nice things. If anything, Green buys fewer but nicer things. Green people love expensive Apple products and expensive yoga pants, for example. Green just realizes that happiness is found more in relationships than in material objects. Don't over-simplify Green as being against material objects. Healthy Green is not against those things. In fact, Green should realize that life cannot work without material objects. It's just that Green understands that material objects are not what life is about. Green is also conscious of how buying up useless material objects affects the environment in unhealthy ways. So Green will be mindful of what they consume whereas Orange doesn't give a shit as long as it suits them. For example, Orange will drive a Hummer and doesn't care about how much gas he burns. Green will prefer to drive a Tesla. Tesla is a nice, expensive material object. But it is also eco-friendly. Green buys nice material objects, but for different reasons than Orange.

It's one thing to say that, it's a totally nother thing to actually realize that in your life. The real test is when the shit hits of fan. When someone tells you your child was run over by the bus. How conscious will you be of the fact that you create meaning?

Well, it's very simple. All that nihilism really boils down to is that being is meaningless. Which is what nonduality reveals. That's all. But the ego-mind don't want to accept that. To the ego-mind it seems negative or depressing or chaotic. You gotta be very careful though. Meaninglessness does not mean what you think it means! You don't need to dive deep into nihilism per se. You just need to become conscious that ego-mind constructs all meaning for the purpose of its survival. Once you become deeply conscious of this, life will cease to have meaning for you (at least for a while) and it will feel like a deep depressing nihilism as you realize that all your life motivations were predicated upon lies and illusions of the deepest sort. But keep pushing past that, surrender all your illusions, and you will eventually get to pure being, liberation, divinity. This is what they call the dark night of the soul. It's really more accurate to call it: the final death-throes of the ego.

JP is serving a valuable function for young college-aged males. He is giving them a sense of stage Blue discipline and direction which their culture never gave them. Basically, at his best, what JP is proposes is having a sense of Life Purpose. Which is basically what my LP course is all about. The only thing I would stress about that is that it's very important to realize that Life Purpose is a conceptual construction. It is not objectively true in any way. It's something one creates for oneself to live a good life and have a sense of focus. And to develop mastery in some field. And that there is a higher level beyond life purpose, which is awakening. One of the excesses of stage Green relativism is that it can leave people feeling lost, directionless, nihilistic, unwilling to engage in building a passionate life. JP seized on this Green excess and is building a public identity around it. But reacting against excess tends to produce more excess of another kind.

@Recursoinominado Visualize for 10 minutes every day for the next 30 days yourself being hardworking and successful. Visualize it hardcore, like your life depends on it. Put full confidence and feeling into each of those 10 minutes. Forcing all negative thoughts and doubt out of your time for those 10 minutes. That will fix it. But only if you actually do it every day. Don't make the excuse: "But I can't visualize it because I've never seen it." That's nonsense. You have an imagination which can visualize all sorts of things you haven't seen, like a flying rainbow mammoth. Your imagination is how you bootstrap success.

It just requires surrender, and dropping all sorts of old ego expectations and desires. The ego-mind is transitioning from living for survival to living from Being. This is a radical shift and the ego-mind has a hard time coping with it. The freedom that comes from meaninglessness is very radical, but also beautiful. It is an acquired taste after decades of living in a conceptual fantasy land under all the artificial meanings that society programmed you with. Just give it time. The depression will pass and give way to emptiness, joy, freedom, and being-love. To truly awaken you are going to have to change your entire attitude towards life. Basically, life as you knew it will end, and a new life will begin. You have to have courage to surrender your old life. If you cling to it, that will produce suffering and depression. With awakening, you must go ALL-IN. Half-measures will produce lots of suffering. To try to awaken but keep your old life intact will produce lots of suffering. Just remember this: depression is ALWAYS temporary. It's something the mind is ACTIVELY doing, and the mind can't keep it up forever. Use this little bit of truth to weather the storm. Keep reminding yourself that this is just temporary. The ego is just acting up like a child.

It does. One vs two is a distinction, a duality. Nonduality is both one and two. All distinctions are embraced at once, creating one unified field containing an infinite number of distinctions. Oneness and many-ness are in fact identical. Notice that a carton of eggs is both one and many at the same time. There is no contradiction because number is a relative projection of your mind. You're the one deciding whether you see the carton as 1 carton or a dozen eggs.

@Cody_Atzori What if the mind is deceiving itself that it is the body, in the same way that a religious fanatic deceives himself? How do you know what you are supposed to be? Where is it written that you are supposed to be a body? Why can't you be omnipresent consciousness, and the body is just another object like all other objects? Does the body really have any special boundary around it? Is it really any different than a coffee table? If the body is really you, how is it possible that you can perceive the coffee table? After all, the coffee table ceases to exist if you close your eyes. So clear the coffee table is a creation of your mind. As is your body. Why are you trusting those bodily sensations as evidence of your identification with the body? After all, you have sensation of the coffee table (you see it), but you do not identify with it. Who says that bodily feeling is more real or determinative of your identity than colors? Why are feeling superior to colors? Who said so? Why are you blindly trusting your feelings? Who said feelings have any meaning whatsoever? Who said the feeling of a body = you? How arbitrary is that?

@Nevon Good work.

You can split hairs over all sorts of nuances of JP's work, but in the end, it's still thoroughly grounded in the classic dualistic Christian paradigm of meaning, morality, order, right vs wrong, good vs evil, etc. Which is, ironically, the opposite of what Christ realized. You are not going to realize Christ through studying myth. You will realize it through hardcore spiritual practice and deconstruction of all belief systems, morality, value, and meaning. The paradox is, you will find Christ at the very bottom end of nihilism. And the distinction JP draws between the individual self and collectivism is a duality which did not exist for Christ. The individual self and the collective self are in fact one and the same.

A Bodhisattva is someone who has awakened. That ain't JP.

Kirya yoga Psychedelics Solo retreats That is the killer combo right there. Getting magically enlightened at the hands of some guru is extremely rare and it's a super disempowering attitude to have. You might as well be hoping to win the lottery. Take your awakening into your own hands. No one will do it for you. If you are feeling stuck, go do a Bufo 5-MeO retreat with Octavio. You'll experience infinity in 5 minutes. It's worth the travel.

I expect better of you guys.

Do your research.

He'd have to do at least a dozen trips, yes. Otherwise what would we be talking about? Just because a person is enlightened does not mean he knows psychedelics. It would be pointless discussing pizza with Sadhguru unless he ate some pizza first. This is really just common sense. People who talk of things which they have zero experience with end up saying stupid things. I know cause I've done it. I am now much more careful about what I choose to speak about so that I don't over-step my experience too much. It's a constant problem. The mind loves to speak of things which it has not experienced as though it has.

@Key Elements That's right, you must explore and discover the truth for yourself. All else is hearsay. Which is why I do BOTH: psychedelics and lots of non-psychedelic methods. I was only arguing against those who oppose psychedelics on dogmatic grounds. This anti-psychedelic dogma is almost always rooted in lack of experience with psychedelics. People do not fully appreciate just how badly our culture stigmatizes psychedelics. They take on this stigma and argue from this stigma unwittingly. Psychedelics have not become mainstream yet, so you will often find people criticizing them simply based on that.

I repeatedly stated that there are many facets and levels of depth to nonduality, and also all kinds of mystical and non-ordinary states of consciousness. But this is actually a case for using more psychedelics, not less. It's precisely because there are so many facets and various kinds of states and levels of depth that without psychedelics you will almost never explore even a small percentage of them. There is also a confusion happening here between stages of development vs states of consciousness. They not the same thing. Also, NDEs are not permanent. By definition, an NDE is a near death EXPERIENCE. And I've never conflated NDEs with awakening. They are very different things. I have repeatedly told you guys that this entire field is much more nuanced and complex than most people assume. And therefore, psychedelics are a great tool to explore this vast landscape and see what's up. The only problem is that people don't want to do it. They want one simple solution rather than doing 100s of trips and dealing with all the questions they will raise in your mind. No one is suggesting that you trip once and close your mind down. Just the opposite. You trip more and more, with each trip your mind opens more and more. It's sort of like you're being told, "Hey, go travel to Africa, there's cool stuff to see there." and you say, "No way, it's too dangerous!" or you say, "I've been to Africa once and seen everything there is to see." Both attitudes are deeply misguided. You could trip 100 times and still not see everything there is to see. People who have tripped less than 50 times, I can't even take them seriously. They have a massive lack of experience. So before you ask people for advice on psychedelics, first ask them, how many times have you tripped, and on how many different substances and at which dosages and under which conditions? That will shut most people up as it would be embarrassing for them to admit their lack of experience. Before you even think of hanging up the phone, answer it 100 times. You never know who's calling. Whatever excuses you have for not doing psychedelics, that's just what they are, excuses. Are there dangers? Of course! Exploration of any kind is dangerous. If you want to be safe, stay in the middle of mindless herd. Exploration is for daring souls. The mindless herd will always whine and complain about why exploration is evil. Don't ask a sheep for advice on how to be a lion.

You could form another idea, but that would be just another false identification. You could believe you are a unicorn, but so what? After all ideas are extinguished, what remains is Nothing. And Nothing is not an idea. Try to imagine life, but without you. Like, there is still a body, but no you inside it.

Yes, it will shock the shit out of you. That's the point: enlightenment shock treatment You will integrate afterwards. After just one 5-MeO breakthrough, you will never look at reality the same way again. Even though you will fall back into duality and ego. You will still have a memory of awakening. And that memory will serve as a roadmap for pursing awakening.

No, it is not beyond. It is just that. But there are many facets to that insight and many degrees of depth to it. I merely said that enlightenment teachers do not understand that 5-MeO can go there as directly as it does. If there was a pill you could take which would give you the level of consciousness of a Zen master with 40 years of daily practice, 5-MeO would take you there in 15 minutes and possibly even give you a deeper insight into that than that Zen master has had. Of course, the difference is, after 60 minutes, you'd be back to normal. Whereas the Zen master is stabilized in his insight. The purpose of 5-MeO is to give you a very deep glimpse of total nonduality. To show you how little you know and how worthwhile it is to pursue.

You didn't get it. You got a tiny glimpse of the Truth perhaps and it freaked the ego out. Yeah, Truth is scary to the unprepared mind. Enlightenment is the most wonderful thing. But you gotta prepare your mind for it with spiritual practices. Be careful judging enlightenment by one psychedelic trip. That would be a big mistake. Psychedelic trips can be weird and freaky. That's not enlightenment per se. Do 20 trips, then see where things are at. One trip means almost nothing. Truth is an acquired taste. You will appreciate Truth more and more as you complete healing your past trauma. More trips should help you heal. Just be open to what the trips are showing you. Sometimes they show you harsh truths. This is in fact great! You just gotta be open to it. Be curious about reality rather than trying to defend yourself.

Probably try to figure out the mushrooms first. It's important to find your right dose to determine how high your natural tolerance is so then you can properly dose other psychedelics. 2g dried should be a fairly strong trip. 4g dried is a very intense trip. But individuals can have different tolerances. And mushrooms can have different potencies. It's easier to dose LSD.

There are many ways to skin the same cat. Going so fast is not necessary. I actually find a lot of value in slowing down the labeling, so you can really feel into every sensation fully. The labels I use are: see, hear, feel. Although I don't do this practice much any more. These days I focus on yoga.

None of them have ever taken 5-MeO. And 5-MeO should not even be in the same category as other psychedelics. It is its own thing. No one who hasn't taken it has any idea such things are possible. Even if they are enlightened, they still don't understand what 5-MeO can do.