Leo Gura

You don't need to break the cycles of life to realize God or experience Nirvana. Sounds extremely self-serving to say this. Stop assuming this. It is a false assumption. God and Nirvana can both be realized without leaving your body. Yes, so what? Again, you are conflating many things here and lack an integral understanding of the differences between various ways of speaking about the same things. You are just assuming that 5-MeO-DMT cannot dissolve karma. You in fact do not know. Be careful with listening to Sadhguru without validating the things he says. He is never giving you the full picture but partial perspectives based on his limited life experiences. Sadhguru has not done 5-MeO-DMT so he does not know what it can or cannot do, or how it changes the traditional yoga path. New technologies require re-thinking old orthodox models of enlightenment. Be careful with your assumptions. If you have not done breakthrough doses of 5-MeO, best to stay humble about it.

God works in mysterious ways Or, the humidity in your area is just low. When I first moved to Vegas it was so dry here that I would always get static shocks. Then my body acclimated and it stopped.

Basically, yeah. He is denying Green aspects of himself, demonizing them, and projecting that out onto "other" in the world, thus making Green seem extra evil in his eyes. So for example, anyone making a critique of capitalism or Israel is seen as a clueless communist or an anti-Semite. When in fact the clueless one is Ben Shapiro. The ego disowns all of the Green aspects of itself.

@now is forever It is not random, it is intelligent and highly designed. Some intelligence had to design that teapot so that it works. It did not happen by accident. Every word coming out of your mouth has to be intelligently selected by the universe so that language is possible. That is what's so amazing about it all. That is what the materialist/atheist misses.

Yes, yes, a bunch of peeps here have tried them. They are identical except for dosage.

No, not an infinite number of facets. Of course you could consider every object in the universe to be a facet of God, but that's not what I mean when I say "facets of God". I am talking about facets of the Godhead, so to speak. God in it's purest form as opposed to God in disguise. There are not infinite facets there. Maybe a dozen or two at most. There is nothing special about the number of them. It's just a way the human mind carves it up, so don't take it too literally. God does not literally have 12 facets. This does not really contradict anything I said. It's just an alternative framing. That point where all consciousness ceases and there is no experience is precisely identical with this experienced moment right now. Experience is not an obstacle to total nondual consciousness. You can be in total nondual consciousness without experience or with experience. Also, how your mind reacts or doesn't react is a secondary thing. Your mind might react well or terribly and it doesn't really change the nature of the Absolute. Equanimity is usually a separate thing you must train. You can experience the Absolute without equanimity. You could be freaking the fuck out (as many people do on psychedelics). It is best to distinguish the training of one's mind from insight into the Absolute. You can have one without the other and vice versa. Both are important but also distinct. Personally, my mental training is not that good, but my insight is more advanced than most hardcore meditators. Because insight is what I care about most and because I cheated (using 5-MeO-DMT). Without 5-MeO-DMT it would have taken me 40 years to gain the insight I have now. And of course I can continue to do mental training.

Yes, they are all those levels you listed. Their center of gravity is Greenish+ Overall it's quite advanced. I actually underestimated them at first. I did not appreciate the importance of consciousness until long after graduating. But even so, most of their coaches have no idea what consciousness is. So they are not that advanced. But for what they are doing, they are just right. Their job is not to make you a Buddha but to help you establish a coaching biz, which is a Greenish+ endeavor overall. If you are serious about coaching, it's a great program. I don't regret paying $9000 for it. I've certainly made that money back. But I am an exceptional case. Most coaches struggle starting their biz. Really, I don't consider myself a coach. Although I did coach a lot for about 2 years. You just have to understand that starting any biz is hard, regardless of what it is. Hard but also exciting and fun.

@Schahin Nirvana is pure Love. You have to understand that enlightened masters leave many of the best things unsaid. Which often creates confusion. Zen undersells and under-explains enlightenment, for example, to the point of deception. I spoil you guys with over-explaining everything. See my video: What Is Love? Love is not what you think it is. We are talking about Platonic love here, not romantic love. One of the great things about psychedelics is that they open you to Platonic love in a way that Zen meditation may not. Keep in mind that there are many facets to God and few people or teachings have integrated them all. Many spiritual teachers simply haven't accessed all the facets. They are not easy to access and you could easily miss a facet without knowing it.

@Enlightenment There are many ways to half-ass enlightenment. There is a lot of depth to enlightenment. Many people only lick the surface and assume they understand when they really don't. Sam Harris is one such example. At deeper levels of awakening the materialist paradigm is entirely expunged to the point where it is silly to even talk about it or argue for it. I have experienced Nirvana. I have experienced total absolute consciousness and Truth. This is a radical claim and I can understand why you might doubt me. But it doesn't matter because Truth is Truth and nothing more can be said of it. Nor do I care whether you believe me or not. Nor does it matter if you do believe me. Either you understand it or you don't. It's way beyond any kind of notions of proof or validation or "changing your mind". If you seriously question the materialist paradigm you will see that it unravels faster than a mangy hand-knit sweater. This does not even require enlightenment. Materialism is rife with contradiction. Just question it. Give it a try. What is matter? What is energy? What is a brain? What is experience? What is science? What is knowledge? What is proof? How do you know science isn't a hallucination? I don't just self-validate, I cross-reference 100s of the highest quality sources across all disciplines and traditions. You guys are not understanding just how important that is. Let's talk after you've cross-referenced at least 100 books on spirituality and nonduality. And while you're at it, try cross-referencing your experiences with 20 gurus. The chief problem is that people simply lack a basic educational framework when it comes to enlightenment and spirituality. Because there do not yet exist sources which provide such an integral framework to lots of people. Because our education system is still in the Dark Ages. What you hear me talking about is cutting-edge stuff which will only become mainstream and normalized a few hundred years in the future, once we're all dead. Then it will all be taken for granted and treated as totally obvious and unquestionable. But until then, it will seem like quackery because the way you judge the validity of knowledge is purely through social proof. Because of laziness. You expect knowledge to be free and easy, when it is the opposite.

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@Shadowraix No, there's more to it than that.

@Staples Most psychoactives don't work for all people. Brain chemistry is a tricky business.

@TheAvatarState That's the paradox. I'm still working on understanding it.

@abrakamowse Of course, and they do much worse. They will use the results of your priavte auditing sessions to blackmail you. Sort of like if a Catholic priest used your confessionals to blackmail you.

@Black Elephant Sorry to rain on your parade but it is not possible for an ego to stop worrying or have peace of mind. Worry is fear. Fear is fundamental to your entire way of life because you are committed to stay alive. There is only one way to eacape fear and worry, and that is to die. Which is precisely the whole point of enlightenment and spiritual practice. Peace is an escape from suffering. You will never escape suffering as an ego. The eacape from suffering is what the Buddha sought and discovered for himself. Which gives you a clue about what it takes to get peace of mind. The trick is, the moment the Buddha escaped suffering is the very same moment he died. But good... at least you have finally discovered the spiritual path.

@28 cm unbuffed The Essential Difference

@Shadowraix It is still not entirely clear to me how Infinity is reconciled with Beauty and Perfection. Beautiful design precisely requires that certain possibilities be excluded. Randomness is not beautiful design. Our world is not random. Infinity is NOT just a random collection of all things. That's the paradox of it.

@Serotoninluv Since I haven't taken Adderall I cannot say. When you are on Modafinil or Armodafinil you are good. You don't need more focus. If anything, it's too potent. Too much of a good thing becomes a bad thing.

No, I don't think so. The "physical laws" are held in place because they are necessary to have these kinds of human experiences we are having. Maybe if God wanted to be a 10-dimensional hyper-slug it wouldn't hold our physical laws. And that probably happens. But so long as you are human, to be human is to play within our physical ruleset at least to some degree. Otherwise you stop being human and become some kind of hyper-slug alien thing. But in a certain sense it does because evolution slowly weeds out devilry. That's its whole point! There is a Grand Design at work. I don't see God giving devils unlimited power. There are constraints on devilry. An unconstrained devil would turn all of creation into an ugly shitshow, spoiling the Beauty and Perfection of the Grand Design. You can't exactly allow Osama Bin Laden to materialize a nuclear weapon with his mind. At least that's my best guess so far. God's creation has exquisite balance. Perfect Divine Balance!

That's your own doing. You assume that it's LSD which does this to you when it's actually your own mind that does this to you. A calm mind can take LSD and not experience this peaking. Your own fears are the cuplrit here. If you are sacred of ego-death you can trigger a panic attack through self-inquiry or meditation. Hell, some people suffer from panic attacks while sober! That's how touchy their egos are.

@Schahin Your understanding of Buddhism and Nirvana is limited. Yes, Nirvana is to cease to exist, which is identical to pure existence, which is identical to God, which is identical to Nothingness, which is identical to Buddha-mind, which is identical to Love, which is identical to Truth, which is identical to 5-MeO-DMT. Death is Nirvana/Heaven. Death is a dip into the infinite ocean of pure consciousness. The ego cannot properly understand this because it thinks death is terrible. There is no such thing as non-existence! When you say non-existence what you're really talking about is the end of the ego. Which was unreal to begin with, so nothing is really lost! 5-MeO can reveal all this to you, and more! If you ground Buddhism up into a fine snortable powder, it would be 5-MeO-DMT. P.S. Consciousness is already nothing, so it needs no cessation, nor can it be ceased. There is only consciousness, only nothing. You guys are confused because you have not yet reached ultimate nonduality, the ultimate unification of formlessness with form. Form is not other than "cessation". Whatever deep sleep state you are imagining is not other than the waking state you are in right now. You are not properly understanding Buddhism because Buddhism cannot be properly understood without full nondual awakening. Buddhism is teaching extremely advanced things which even most Buddhists do not fathom. How could they? You cannot read this stuff in a book. And meditation is rarely enough. As the Buddha said, no one will understand.

A stage Blue devil with a massively repressed Green shadow. Worse than JP.

From what I understand he was not enlightened. Don't forget that it's easy to ape genuine spiritual paths and to create your own fake, distorted paths for the purposes of power, sex, money, etc. That's what he did. Even in a cult's teachings there are kernels of truth. That's precisely how the devil opperates, he mixes truth with bullshit until you can no longer tell them apart. This makes the bullshit easier to swallow. Hubbard was a sneaky devil who built a nest for devilry.

This is precisely why you are not given access to such power, devil.

@Serotoninluv I have never taken Adderall nor do I intend to since it is basically meth. Don't take things which screw up your body chemistry, like antidepressants.