Leo Gura

@Frogfucius Careful about idealizing enlightened people, you will be disappointed. Jesus was not pure benevolence. If you look at the descriptions of him, he was also a prick. As many enlightened masters can be. Don't equate enlightenment with automatic goodness. That goodness requires MUCH additional work. And it's actually easier to become deeply enlightened than to become perfectly good.

The panic attack didn't have any odd sensations associated with it. I was mostly just worried that I had no idea what the 5-meo experience would be like and that I poisoned myself and would be tripping for 4 hours. They were rather silly fears. On 5-meo you have no choice. You either accept it 100%, or you're gonna be in the deepest hell you can imagine. To me the act of surrender feels like pulling the cord on your parachute after you jump out of the plane. You don't really have an alternative. If you don't pull it, you're fucked. So I always take it seriously and surrender for real. I have a feeling 5-meo will force you to surrender whether you want to or not, but if you drag it out, it will just be needless suffering. 5-meo is utterly beyond merely weird sensations. It's an impossible experience. Like becoming a living Escher drawing.

I dunno.

You assume Tai is highly developed. But he is obviously not. Don't confused success with development. Yes, like I said, the more inner demons you have, the more shit you repress, the more ego you have, the more of that you'll have to deal with if you ever open Pandora's box. What undeveloped people don't realize is how much truth they've been repressing and denying their whole lives. It's so much, it will make you physically throw up if you ever discover it in one instance. Literally it will make you physically ill, all your lies. But you don't even know what I'm referring to yet. The lies are so deep. Maybe one day you will. If there's anything I know for sure, it's that my stance on radical openmindedness is not nearly radical enough. Everything the average human being knows about reality is so wrong it's heart-breaking and shocking. And there's very little I can do to help because to hear me requires that one already suspect that one is living in a Matrix. You just don't know yet how deep the Matrix is. It's way worse than any movie has hinted at. It's utterly impossible to comprehend to the human mind. Like an ant trying to understand calculus.

@Outer Yes, I've experienced buzzing on mushrooms too. Not quite as dramatic.

@JustinS Likewise with my mushrooms trip 1 week post 5-meo. It was gnarly.

Reconciling LoA with enlightenment work is tough. But doable. It's a real test of your ability to hold paradox and your nimbleness of mind. You sort of have to become a CPU with 2 cores, each running simultaneous but opposite paradigms, compartmentalized to each core. Not recommended for newbies. If your goal is build some personal success for yourself. Just focus on LoA for now, with a plan to come back to enlightenment work after a few years of working on your success goals. Just don't get lost in chasing success. It will never fulfill you. And keep a daily meditation habit going no matter what.

@Svartsaft Hint: If you (i.e., ego) cringe at the thought of something, then it's probably super-healthy for ya Are you seeing the game yet? Are you seeing how ego separates itself from other?

@kurt Yes?

@Seyed Well said. @Davie Notice carefully how Tai's business, his speaking, his marketing, his selection of books and video topics -- and basically everything he does -- is a reflection of his Spiral Dynamics stage Orange level of consciousness. His internal development is creating a glass ceiling on his actions, which are then used by his mind to justify his current level of internal development. It becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy. This is the very real danger of closedmindedness. This is especially dangerous with him because he's been so successful. It's EXTREMELY hard now for him to realize that all that success is built on delusion. Because he believes success defines truth. For him to come around would probably create a nervous breakdown, or a serious case of dark night of the soul type depression. It would be a VERY rude awakening. So it's not likely to happen without some hard external force. (5-meo would probably get the job done, but of course he's unlikely to ever try it, and it would be a painful experience for him.) This is what happens when you don't take epistemology seriously and don't see your own blindspots. Watch out, because it's not just him. The EXACT SAME THING IS HAPPENING IN YOU! Can you see it?

I have videos covering each topic separately. They are quite different techniques.

What can you expect from an academic? Worth reading though.

@JustinS It didn't feel or sound like an "Aum" to me. I think it is specific to 5-meo or other psychedelics screwing with the brain.

It's a good idea to sit down -- at least one time in your life -- and seriously ask yourself, "What do the concepts right and wrong actually mean?"

Firstly, nothing is egoic without ego. NO PHYSICAL ACTION OR OBJECT IS EVER EGOIC! EVER! Things become egoic when the ego gets a hold of it. I can use a fork egoically to murder your entire family. Or I can use the fork non-egoically to eat a salad. Even weirder, it's possible for me to use a fork to murder your entire family unegoically. That's right! I said unegoically! That's a bit of a stretch, but possible. An earthquake can kill a million people in the blink of an eye unegoically. Our aversion to death and murder is itself egoic. Secondly, even if my channel is egoic, for example, the point is to be moving towards egolessness. It's a long process. You can't just go to Walmart and buy egolessness off the store shelf. You have to bootstrap it from ego. Ego has to come to grips with the fact that it is self-limiting and must ultimately commit a noble suicide. That is the entire process in a nutshell. Your entire life is a game of you either moving towards that noble suicide or running away from it.

As you raise your baseline level of consciousness, you'll automatically find less and less value in material things, and you will start to see how materialism undermines itself. At the highest levels of consciousness, you will not even be attached to your body anymore. The entire universe will literally de-materialize. And then finally you'll taste the sweet freedom you were seeking through materialistic dead-ends. And it will be more glorious than you could have ever imagined. The best method is something like self-inquiry or mindfulness meditation. Or 5-MeO

And what if Trump wins and his giant ego brings the entire human race to the brink of extinction? The amount of damage caused by ego is incredible when you actually examine the historical record. Enlightenment seems to promote complacency only because people in our culture live like rabid greedy squirrels on crack cocaine chasing down the last acorn in the universe.

@JustinS Now that you mention it, I do recall the buzzing sensation at the very peak of ego death when I fully became conscious that I was God. It was like a giant spear pierced through my skull and brain, and Leo was utterly dead. Insane! Utterly insane experience. There is no way it can be explained to a human being.

Evidence: 30mg 5-MeO-DMT up the nostrils + 15 minutes. Case closed.

@Happiness Which is why I recommend snorting instead of smoking. Smoking is just extremely fast and overwhelms you. A slower, more smooth entry is probably a lot better for most people. So your mind isn't totally nuked.

Sounds familiar

Wouldn't surprise me.

Do not ask about sourcing for drugs on this forum. All such posts will be deleted. Sorry. If you're going to do psychedelics, don't be sloppy or lazy about it. It's your job to do the research.

It's not wrong. It's just stupid. Like poking yourself in the eye with a fork. And hey, if you wanna be stupid, go for it! You'll be in good company.

Even mushrooms will feel like 5-meo after 5-meo. Which is why I said be careful, 5-meo will potentiate all other psychedelics. So watch your dosages afterwards. If you do enough 5-meo, you should start to feel like you're tripping 24/7, without taking any substances for weeks at all. Because you're simply becoming permanently more conscious. When you start tripping spontaneously throughout the day, that's when you know it's working