Leo Gura

@Wekz How old are you?

That sounds like it would be a big problem but in practice it just isn't because the psychedelic takes you so far beyond mental conceptual stuff. When you actually become infinite, it will be no theory. Psychedelics create a change in one's state of consciousness. This is very different from constructing models or doing analysis. The Absolute is absolute. It is not a memory or a projection. It cannot be doubted.

This discussion is now turning into total nonsense. @Norbert Lennartz Do not comment on this thread any more. You are not adding anything of value.

Not at all. Ultimate reality is perfectly clear. It is Absolute Infinity and you are God, the creator of it. There can be nothing more. But you can realize this deeper and deeper. It would not matter to you. At sufficient levels of consciousness pain is indistinguishable from pleasure. Pain is something you imagine. But don't expect to easily embody that

Reality is a self-licking ice cream cone. Nice work!

No video this week as I'm integrating a deep awakening and taking it slow.

@Jed Vassallo I like it! Nice advice.

@Norbert Lennartz What is your solution for improving government? Which policies do you support?

@noselfnofun It's complicated. There are insights, there are states, and there is your baseline level of consciousness. All of them can be affected. You certainly cannot maintain a peak 5-MeO-DMT state because you would barely be able to walk. But it changes you even though you drop down. The sense of self is expended beyond your body. Yes, do both is the suggestion.

Lol No, you will not be anywhere close to that conscious. You will be lucky to get a few glimpses. But the value of the work is not just in getting glimpses. There's a lot more lessons than just enlightenment. Most of Peter's apprentices are not enlightened at all, not to even speak of deep enlightenment. Which is not to say anything negative about his programs. They are great. But you are grossly underestimating the amount of work it takes to awaken that deeply. I have watched his apprentices struggling and struggling and failing and failing to grasp what they are or what reality is. Not to brag, but I have awoken deeper than any of Peter's apprentices who I have met. And that is thanks to 5-MeO-DMT. Such degrees of consciousness would take you 40 years of work to attain. Total omniscience is possible. But you won't get that through any kind of apprenticeship program. Still, I recommend his programs. It's not the program's fault you are so asleep If you're not using 5-MeO-DMT you're looking at 10, 20, 30, 40 years of work to reach the highest levels. The reality is, you will probably never even know you missed the highest levels because you will be so far away from them even after 40 years of work. Unless if you are supernaturally gifted. And that assumes you're working your ass off on this work, not just half-assing it the way most people do. It's still worth doing the work. So don't get discouraged. Just don't ignore the most powerful and direct tool there is for awakening. It would be negligent to do so. You will not understand Peter's full depth without psychedelic assistance, I can promise you that. None of this is to discourage you. Just the opposite, it just shows you how deep this work goes. So get excited! You have a lot of room for growth.

Before you join anywhere, visit it, stay a while, explore the grounds, and ask people questions.

@Danioover9000 The center of the onion is basically becoming a Jesus Christ. But you'd need massive, massive enlightenment for that. At the very center of the onion is God. If you fully become God, you will become a walking, talking vehicle for God's Love on Earth. Literally. You will walk around radiating God's Love to the whole world. Very few people get this far. You won't just be a vehicle for God, you will actually be the one true God. At this point your life is totally selfless and devoted to the betterment of all of living beings. Your love for the world will be infinite and you will be in paradise all the time. You will need nothing because you have become everything.

The certification itself is basically irrelevant. What you really care about is finding the best program which teaches you how to be great coach and the business aspects of coaching. IPEC is the program I completed. It's quite good. It taught me valuable skills which I would not have learned any other way. Can't speak about any others since I only have experience with that one.

I have very little info about it. It seems like a decent spiritual community. Keep in mind that any community will be somewhat cult-like. But I don't think Isha is too bad. Although I don't know. The trick with real cults is that they hide their activities behind fake pleasant fronts. But from what I can sense about Sadhguru he is too responsible to allow Isha to be a proper cult. I don't think he would stand for it. After Sadhguru dies, then I would expect some serious problems to hit Isha as his followers wrestle for power with no authoritative voice like Sadhguru to guide them. The problem with building large organizations is that once the founder dies, it will easily get co-opted by devils and turned into a machine for devilry. That's one of the reasons I keep Actualized.org small.

Exactly. Now you understand nothing

You cannot extract 5-MeO-DMT from plants, which is how most N,N-DMT is made. Very few people synthesize N,N-DMT in a lab from scratch. It can be done but from what I know these methods are not readily known. And the precursor chemicals will be watched by government agencies who will arrest you for purchasing them. It's a bad idea to get involved with that.

@Shadowraix Piecing together insights can be tricky, especially from squirrely substances like mushrooms. The insights can be hard to make sense of. It helps very much to have a solid theoretical foundation in nonduality and spirituality beforehand. Which means reading lots of books and developing a theoretical framework. That helps me a lot. So when I trip and I see some new insight I can say, "Oh, hey, that's what that Zen master was talking about!" or, "Hey! That's what that yogi was talking about!" If you come into psychedelics with zero study, you will be so lost. You won't be able to make sense of it. Watching my videos should help a lot with this. People who trip need to watch my videos.

That could also be a sort of projection.

Well, you also don't want to be so paranoid about that that you become paralyzed and don't help the world at all. You don't have to be perfect to improve the world. That's too high a standard which few people can meet. Try to help the world as best as you can while being careful not to start a cult or do harm. That's all. Be very self-aware and open to feedback. Be careful with constructing or preaching ideologies. That's where a lot of harm can happen. I have no interest in working in government. I am a lone wolf type. I don't have the temperament for it. Other people do. Bernie Sanders is perfect for that job. Much better than I would ever be. He's passionate about it. He deserves it the most.

Projection is when you judge another for the very same thing which you yourself are doing. The judgment is an exteriorization of your own guilt and self-judgment. But by projecting this bad trait out onto some "other" you can avoid looking at it within yourself. The classic example is this: Let's say you were raised to believe that homosexuality is a sin for which you will get sent to hell. But you find yourself having mild homosexual urges. But you cannot admit this to yourself so instead to get angry at some flaming homosexual on TV. So you start to badmouth that homosexual and you vow to punch him in the face if you ever meet him in person. All of this is really just you denying your own homosexuality. Scientific studies show that men who hate homosexuals are more likely to be sexually aroused when they are shown naked photographs of men than those who do not hate homosexuals. Another example would be: If you're acting like a selfish devil and you start calling other people selfish devils, that's projection. Or if you're cheating on your taxes but you get angry that rich people don't pay enough taxes, that's projection. For example: Donald Trump will call any news he doesn't like Fake News when in fact he is the biggest purveyor of fake news. He will call people liars when he is the biggest liar there ever was. He will call investigations of him biased because he is the most biased President there ever was. He will complain about rigged elections because he himself was rigging the election. In general the ego wants to be as selfish as possible while denying that it is in fact being selfish at all (because this allows it to be even more selfish!) So the best way to do that is to divert attention way from its own selfishness by point out the selfishness of others. If everyone around me is so selfish, then I'm actually an angel. And that's precisely the self-image I want to have so that I can justify being more selfish. If I see myself as the least selfish person in the world, that suits me just great. Now I got a lot of selfishness to make up for Now I can steal, rape, and kill without guilt.

This is too loose a definition of projection. Projection is a very specific thing. Not every statement is projection. By taking that sloppy stance you dilute the meaning of the term and actually normalize projection. The bottom line is that I and others can always be wrong about things. I never say I'm perfect in my assessments of situations. When I call someone a devil usually it's not a projection but something that's quite obvious they're doing. Of course sometimes it could be a projection. But mostly it isn't. When you see that a child is behaving foolishly by playing with matches, that's not projection. That's your higher wisdom and experience warning you of an impending problem. It would be foolish of you to allow him to play with those matches. The problem there is legitimate, he cannot see it, but you can. There is a good reason we don't let kids play with matches. The whole point of having wisdom is that you're able to accurately distinguish between foolish and wise actions. It's not always perfect. But you can get pretty damn good at it. That's why experience is so valuable. So when I call someone a devil, that's usually coming from a deep set of experience. I can see the epistemic traps that people are falling into which they are not able to see yet. Often because I have fallen into those traps myself in the past.

Yes, but then again, when will it ever be the time? This thread also demonstrates how badly conscious politics is needed.

It's always a matter of inching our way upward. We don't need to get rid of all ideology. We can start split-testing certain concrete policies immediately. For example we can easily split test legalization of marijuana. Reasonable people can agree to such an idea. We can even split-test the building of a Mexican border fence. Just put massive gates along the fence which we can open at any time to nullify the barrier. The point of doing a public split-test is so that after the test is done people agree to whatever the results are. It's a consensus building device.

Each mindfuck is its own kind of infinite. The thing about infinity is, there's many sizes of infinity, as Georg Cantor proved.

Well, yeah, haha.... ignorance cannot help be ignorance The wise learn through the experience of others. A fool can learn no other way than by smashing his face into the wall. Learn to be wise. It's less painful