Leo Gura

Spiral stages are equal in the absolute sense but are inferior/superior in the relative sense. Just like drinking pure spring water is relatively better for a human being than drinking water from a public toilet. But in the absolute sense, the toilet water is no worse than spring water. The value of water is RELATIVE to the health of a human being. So it is important IF you care about human health. It is not important in the absolute sense. When it comes to politics and issues of governance be careful not to adopt too much of an absolute perspective, since politics is a question of pragmatic solutions for issues of survival. Poliltics requires a pragmatic eye. What will actually improve peoples lives? What will put mankind in harmony with our environment? Taking an absolute stance on such questions is a mistake. For example, naive people pursuing nonduality might wrongly conclude that after enlightenment voting no longer matters because they are now so above politics. So they stop voting. But then that action might lead to a facist getting elected and starting WWIII or outlawing spirituality. There cannot be a decent society without voting. Good luck getting enlightened in North Korea. It is not enough to just get enlightened, you must also help to create a society where other people can get enlightened like you did. It is not right to say, "Well, I'm enlightened now, so fuck ya'll." Because you would have never gotten enlightened if all enlightened people took that attitude. The path to your awakening was laid by millions of people working for thousands of years to create a society which would allow it. So it would be kind of you to return the favor. Remember the important role that balance plays in earthly life. The point of politics is to get our collective balance right, so we don't fall into collective disease. No one is above politics. Not as long as you care about living. By not voting, you've cast your vote for the status quo.

Consciousness = Nothingness = Everything But the question is, how conscious are you?

@Kalki Avatar Sounds like the typical relationship.

Consciousness is irreducible -- since it is the only thing there is. What changes is your degree of consciousness. You need to get an experiential hit on what degrees of consciousness are. Psychedelics are the easiest way to do that.

In that case there is no science.

@Eric Tarpall Don't infect others with your own ignorance.

Classic newbie mistake. Your own mind will trick you like that and get you to believe that having fun with your friend is accomplishing something. It isn't. Fun is fun. But it's not enough to get you the skill set you want. You must force yourself to approach 10-20 sets each night. No excuses. It's best to start approaching immediately upon walking into the club. The first girl you see, you approach. Which is why when you get a bit more experience and comfort, you should hit the clubs solo. Solo you can really do some damage in the club. Hanging to your friends too tightly will not allow you to get laid. You must be ready to break off from your friend to approach girls, and bounce them to new locations. It is not enough to just approach a girl and stand with her in the same spot the entire night. Once she's attracted to you, you've got to bounce her as much as possible around the place and then outside the place to other places and ultimately to your apartment. Pickup does not work without leading and bouncing. Solo is highly efficient. But it's emotionally hard, because when you're out of set you feel very alone.

@billiesimon Very few women go to clubs and walk out with a one night stand. This is quite unusual activity. Your typical girl probably goes to the club a few times a year when her friends drag her along. 98% of all sex happens from introductions from her social circle and maybe work acquaintences. Pickup is NOT how most sex happens.

All spiritual journeys are tough. Spirituality is not for sheep. Only the bold will find God. Mommy cannot hold your hand through it, since Mommy isn't even real. Not if you are.

@OmniYoga Yes it's a massive obstacle, second only to not learning about God

The EEG machine itself is fairly cheap: $800. But the software, accessories, and training materials will cost another $1,500 at least.

@Angelo John Gage I imagine it was similar to the Catholic Church in 15th century. They were not exactly the bastion of nonduality.

You are forgetting to reflect your own logic back in on itself: your own logic is a hallucination which you are unwittingly trusting. You are assuming an anchor point for reality, but there isn't one. Whatever you regard as "real" isn't actually so except in your own mind. Ta-da!

It's very technical to learn. Most people will not figure it out, and it is not easy to explain. Which is why I don't talk about it much. Took me a month of tedious research to figure it out.

There's still more to learn. Don't get cocky. The big picture is all the same, yes.

Artists have used psychedelics for a long time. The very first cave paintings, the earliest human art, was psychedelic shaman art.

Very interesting. Increasing beta is not right though. You want beta to be as low as possible and alpha as high as possible. That's what meditation does. Yes, coherence is super important. Gamma is also important.

I have lists of hundreds of things things I don't understand.

@Angelo John Gage The mistake you're making is conflating the Aztec state with their highest shamanic wisdom. Let's apply your logic to the USA. How come Donald Trump is putting children in cages and bombing the Midde East when we have people like Eckhart Tolle, Adyashanti, and Peter Ralston teaching nonduality? How come we have Catholic priests molesting children when the truth of nonduality is readily available in thousands of YT videos? Every culture has vast diversity, from the lowest of the low to the highest of the high. The wisest people are never in charge, never in politics, never mainstream. And don't forget stages of development. Although the Aztec shamans accessed nondual states they were not high on the Spiral. They were mostly Purple, Red, and a bit of Blue. A stage Red person may access a mystical state and then cut out your heart and eat it.

Yes, of course. Learn to crawl before you go trying to fly. Don't worry about it. Handle your basic survival needs. Later you will shift your balanced back to spirituality. You can only do whatever your ego will allow you to do. If your basic needs are severely under-served your ego will not allow you to seriously pursue spirituality. Your heart must in whatever you're doing. If your heart is telling to go fuck, then go fuck. Get it out of your system.

@ravlondon Well, if you think it about, having sex with a random stranger within 4 hours is extremely weird! It's highly unusual. Girls will do it, but it's not something they do on the regular. You have to really make it smooth like magic. It is highly unnatural to have sex with a person so quickly. Usually a girl would know a guy for weeks or months or years before she would sleep with him. Simply due to the social circumstances of meeting new people.

@How to be wise Red/Orange

@ravlondon Yeah, I've seen that clip. That's the right attitude. He's just being too creepy and no charm. But yeah, you gotta be an approach machine. High volume. You fish using a net, not a single hook. You gotta be persistent like he is, and you gotta have a light-hearted attitude. Notice how he doesn't judge himself or even register rejection. A rejection is literally nothing. He's just having fun and taking it easy. That is absolutely essential. You cannot take this shit seriously. You basically must place zero investment in the girl until she's ready to sleep with you.

I don't really actively talk about it unless they ask me, which they rarely do. My Mom is pretty tolerant of me doing whatever, even though she basically thinks I'm crazy. My brother is pretty open to it because his wife is pretty heavy into spirituality and he's had some mystical experiences on psychedelics. But mostly he's stuck in stage Orange materialism and scientism. He's open to it in theory, but not motivated to do any actual practices. Recently I introduced him to the Spiral Dynamics model and he found is interesting from a sort of scientific and historical POV. My Dad I don't communicate with at all for others reasons. My ex-girlfriend was a bit into it but the metaphysical stuff was just way over her head. Although she loved the psychedelics. It doesn't really matter. Just do your spiritual work and mostly keep it to yourself or some close friends who are also into it. Definitely do NOT expect your family to be into it or to understand it or to support you in your spiritual journey. Your family wants you to be the old you. They don't want you to be enlightened because it would freak them the fuck out. They cannot handle the mindfuck of you becoming immortal. It is just totally outside their reality. They want to feel like The Matrix is real. A great way to scratch the itch of sharing is to find a girlfriend or boyfriend who's also into self-actualizing and spirituality. Then you can go real deep with it together. That will be a wild fun ride. But it requires the right person, not just some rando. There is no cure for closedmindedness. Other than to open one's mind.

@ravlondon Glasses aren't about looks for me. Contacts are way more comfortable and give clearer vision.