Leo Gura

Do not prune this thread as doing so will likely break stuff in horrible ways. Just stay on topic here.

@Freakrik You can still enjoy life. Why is this so hard for people to understand?

Next time it happens contemplate: Why is this happening? What is the point of this? Why am I creating this reaction? Don't ask us. Ask yourself.

@AncestorOfAisle6 Yes, we know of him. He seems quite culty (although also genuinely enlightened). Not much new under the sun. Pathological enlightenment is much more common than people assume. Like I said, watch out for young gurus especially. They are prone to be Zen Devils. Upgrading society is good. The problem is, it's much harder to do than almost anyone realizes. Good intentions, pleasant words, and even enlightenment is not enough. It takes conscious leadership and a degree of self-mastery which very few people have.

@Highest Yup, but now to make that stick

@Shaun This is a totally normal ego backlash which will soon pass. The ego is incredibly strong and it will not allow you get rid of meaning so easily. If only it were so easy! It is a fact that no meaning whatsoever exists. This fact is very threatening to your way of life and your survival program. Which is why you are reacting with all those emotions. Those emotions are designed to get you back on track with your survival agenda. The fact that life is meaningless is itself meaningless, hence it is not bad or depressing. In order to be depressed you must assign negative meaning to life. So ironically the reason you're feeling so bad is because you are trapped inside an illusory world of (negative) meaning. The counter-intuitive move is to surrender all meaning. But ego is not gonna let that happen without a huge stink. In a few days you will forget you ever watched that video and you will fall back asleep into your unconscious life, as though nothing ever happened. That's how sneaky the ego is. It will just sweep all this truth under the rug, out of your awareness. What you should be really worried about is falling back asleep, not losing meaning.

Oh good God! Humanity is doomed.

Pretty good

Overall, ancient man was selfish, barbaric, and vicious like a wild dog. The end of slavery is a modern evolutionary advance. You have to consider the bigger picture. Consciousness not only has depth but breathed. God could go really deep by creating 5 enlightened masters or go very broad by creating 50,000 idoits hanging out on Facebook. Those 50,000 idiots might amount to more consciousness in the long run because they will breed like rabbits and share a technology like 5-MeO-DMT which then leads to 50,000 awakenings rather than just 5. This issue is highly nonlinear and counter-intuitive. Evolution is not a straightforward afair. What looks like steps backward are actually necessary steps forward. Therein lies the genius of the overall design. It's like a queen sacrifice in a masterful chess game. To understand God's plan you must look an infinite number of moves ahead.

@Pouya Sounds to me like you are on the right track but just second-guessing yourself. Just observe more rather than speculate. Sit down and observe what resistance is, how it works, when it arises, why it arises, when it passes, why it passes, what function is serves, what it feels like, etc. Those are all great questions. The purpose of contemplation is not deconstruction per se but to get to the truth of the matter, to see what is actually the case. What is actually the case about resistance? To answer that you must spend a lot of time observing it. The mistake is speculating about it based on your assumptions and theories. Stop doing that! Rather, observe it from scratch and make mental note of what you see. Study it like a rare tropical butterfly under a microscope which you are seeing for the first time in your life.

@Salvijus This is a thread about using 5-MeO-DMT to realize God, not ending all karma. You can discuss ending all karma elsewhere.

@hyruga Einstein disproved Newton's theory 100 years ago. And modern science still has no clue what gravity really is, even at the conceptual level. In fact, science does not know what anything is. ANYTHING! You are not appreciating the depth of this problem of knowing.

You already got your answer Others are you. God is all beings simultaneously. See my video: The Radical Implications Of Oneness.

@Salvijus I'm not really interested in such pedantic nondual debating. Get enlightened, realize God, and go about your life or leave this plane. I don't care. There's no need to debate it with me. If your intention is to leave this plane, then get on with it. No need to convince us of anything, no need to talk about nirvana on an online forum. If you really want to lessen your karma, begin by letting go of debating differences between Buddhism and Hinduism.

The point of evolution is to maximize consciousness and love. Which is the minimization of devilry. It happens exactly as everything you see around you in your life.

I don't do it actively like I once did.

@iamnotahumanbeing No sourcing question, per Forum Guidelines.

Basically correct. Except I still detect subtle duality in his descriptions. It sounds like he has not accessed total nonduality. Still, pretty good for a nerdy scientist type. This kind of stuff is the future of science, philosophy, and cosmology. But just the fact that this guy is bragging about his IQ score already makes him not the smartest guy in the world. If he was a genius he should have known that mankind has understood the Absolute Truth for at least 5000 years before him.

@Aakash Thanks, I'll check it out. Although I don't really read nonduality books any more except for the purposes of looking for quotes and doing research for you guys. The best nonduality book is: 5-MeO-DMT

I was listening to an obscure podcast about psychedelics. One of the guests (I think it was Martin Ball) mentioned that 5-MeO-DMT creates total loss of ego. As soon as I heard that, I immediately knew this was the most important psychedelic to try. After I read some Reddit reports of people not liking 5-MeO-DMT because it was too much of a mindfuck and not fun, my conviction doubled. This was clearly the most important psychedelic. The truth is very easy to suss out: it always lies behind a curtain of fear.

Yes, it's not permanent. But that does not make it any less true. It is precisely what it promises: total enlightenment for 60 minutes. To say that it is somehow not "real" enlightenment because it only lasts 60 minutes is a mistake. That's a judgment your ego is making. It is simply a fact that you can have an enlightenment which lasts 60 minutes. Careful with how you judge that. Sadhguru holds a week-long retreat which is specifically designed to give participants a short glimpse of enlightenment using yogic techniques. This is a peak experience of God which passes. Yet it is still valid and valuable, otherwise why would he hold such a retreat? 5-MeO-DMT is just a more efficient way of doing exactly that. It doesn't require a week, and it will take you deeper than a week-long retreat ever could. If you want to define the word "enlightenment" to only apply to permanent awakening, you can do that. But then you still have to allow that God can be fully realized non-permanently for 60 minutes. Realizing the Truth is independent of time or permanence. Whether it lasts for 10 seconds or 100 years, Truth is Truth. Confusion is created when people insist that there is only one right way to access Truth (their way). In fact, there are hundreds of ways to access Truth. Each come with their own pros and cons. The chief con of yoga is that it takes YEARS to deliver God realization. It takes so long that 95% of practitioners will quit before they get there. 5-MeO-DMT addresses this problem beautifully.

Makes sense given how he said in the Joe Rogan podcast at the end that it's all about love. That was clearly a psychedelic insight. A typical engineer would not understand such things without psychedelic assistance.

@Belay kelemework No, it means: YOU ARE GOD!

@Wisebaxter If you take it too often it will become less noticeable as you build up some tolerance. Best to cycle it on and off, using it when it really counts. The ultimate solution is to develop yours consciousness to that state naturally through stuff like Kriya yoga. If you like Modafininil you will like Kriya yoga.

I would assume total awakening should do the trick. You would have to satiate all desire for experiencing the formed realm. I wouldn't get hung up on that. Enjoy the ride.