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Some of my trips even go beyond 60 mins. Sometimes 1h20m. It's beyond good. It's the only way to seriously do this work. You want as much time as possible to bask and contemplate in that glorious nonduality. And it's important to keep your eyes open. - - - - - - It would be awesome if we were able to find a way of extending the trip duration even more. Perhaps some supplement combo could do it. But you have to be extremely careful testing out combos. The wrong combo could be lethal. For example taking 5-MeO-DMT with MAOI is extremely dangerous and should never be done.

The following video is about N,N-DMT, but this guy invented a technique for doing an IV drip of DMT which allows for maintaining a breakthrough plateau for 1-24 hrs! The IV drip method is mentioned at that last 15 minutes of the video. I don't recommend you try this at home. But it should be possible to create an IV drip of 5-MeO-DMT which will keep you in a totally nondual state for many hours while contemplating reality. Again, do not try this at home by yourself. This should only be done in a laboratory. But imagine a future in which you could go down to your local clinic and get a 24 hour infusion of 5-MeO-DMT. That will be the most powerful tool for enlightenment ever. Liquid Buddha Infusion << trademark Actualized.org 2019

@nowimhere That's true, plugging will use up more substance faster. But also each trips lasts much longer, so I feel that's a worthwhile trade-off. I don't mind spending 25-50% more substance for a smooth 1 hour trip vs a jerky 10 min trip. 1 hour breakthroughs are fucking AMAZING!

We are not really in disagreement. I understand what you're pointing at. I think we are just stating the same thing in different ways. I don't advocate devilsh behavior.

That is what I'm attempting to demonstrate. Let's see if it works. So far my ego has definitely been significantly reshaped after 35 trips. But also I don't feel a need to take 5-MeO as often as you describe. That would be overkill. My hypothesis is YES. But I'm willing to be proven wrong. That is the nature of scientific investigation. Martin Ball claims to have done it. So if you believe him, that would be 1 point of corroboration. The real problem is this: even if I succeed in doing it, who will believe me? Virtually no one. I will be called a deluded charlatan. You see, science is not as easy as people think. It's a marketing problem and a culture war problem more so than a problem of digging up raw data. Digging up the raw data is the easy part. Convincing the mainstream to accept it as truth is the hard part. How many Buddhists will denounce me for using 5-MeO-DMT? Many. A Buddhists are usually the most tolerant ones.

What I said is simply the case. At the highest level, no wrong can be done. Of course I don't recommend you go around murdering people. But if you do, that will be okay too. That is literally the highest form of love. In the end all evil is you own creation. So you might as well love it. I am not a Buddhist and I do not recognize moral norms because they are ultimately delusions. Yes, what I am speaking of here is the Absolute "perspective" so to speak. Relatively we obey laws to produce a livable society. Yes, Absolute Love is black & white by its very nature. There is zero room for not-love. Perhaps you have not become conscious of Absolute Love? It's a radical thing. It does not hold back for Buddhist moral norms. Remember, when you see the Buddha, kill him

That's just style.

No. This is terrible and sloppy analysis. With this kind of analysis the devils will exploit you since you're simplistically splitting everything down the middle and assuming symmetries which are actually asymmetrical. Republicans and Democrats are not just two sides of the same coin. Democrats are more conscious, more openminded, more Spirally developed, and less corrupt. This is very important to understand. This doesn't mean Democrats don't have flaws. They do. But Republicans have way bigger flaws. This needs to be acknowledged, otherwise you end up with a false equivalency which maintains an evil status quo. The midpoint between pro-slavery and anti-slavery positions is still slavery. A proper analysis of slavery must conclude that all slavery be abolished. Which can seem like a radical position. But of course "radical" is totally relative. You make some good points. I worry that Warren may cave to more centrist, status quo forces. The system will try to co-opt her. I don't worry so much about that happening with Bernie. Yes, it sure can seem that way from your POV. Again, don't confuse consciousness and Truth for neutrality or weakness. Conscious people are capable of taking bold and decisive action which may seem crazy to those who are unconscious or part of the status quo. Conscious leaders can be radicals. Which does not make them fundamentalists. They just have a higher vision than the rest of society can see. First they mock you, then they slander you, then they try to kill you, and finally, 200 years later, they accept everything you said as obvious and moral, worshiping you as a prophet and saint. I am not moralistic at all. You are feel to kill whoever you want. You will still be loved by God. Nothing you do is wrong in any way. The moralistic one is you because you believe in good and bad, right and wrong, and you judge your own wickedness. My political discussions are purely pragmatic. In the absolute sense politics doesn't matter at all. The whole planet can die and it will be just fine. But not from the ego's POV. So we are really talking about how to create a better world for egos.

The way it worked is like this: I started testing oxalate and freebase. When testing new substances I always start very conservative and low. So I told myself, "Okay, 1 scoop should be half the usual dose and will probably be disappointing and weak, but I should err on the side of caution." So that's what I did, but I had two of the most powerful trips of my life. So I'm very glad I started out conservative because otherwise it would have been way too much. The lesson is this: When doing psychedelics always err on the conservative side. If you dose is too low, nothing bad will happen. At worst you'll just lose some time. But if you overshoot, the risks are very high. So it's worth being very, very careful and conservative. Which is exactly the opposite of what most psychonauts do. They often sloppily eyeball a 50mg dose without even bothering to buy a scale and shoot it with 2 beers, nachos, and a joint at a crowded movie theater. And that's when shit hits the fan. Don't be that guy! Be clinical with your dosing.

This is a true of the entire spiritual path. The trips are just part of that path and the more one does the more one develops nuance and stability. Just like with any spiritual practice. Not sure what you refer to with your "black & white" remark.

Of course it does. Because it threatens your survival. Anything that threatens your survival you will label as evil. You cannot help it.

What's wrong is that they behave like shameless devils while pretending they are equal to Democrats. They are not. Truth is not neutral. The midpoint between bullshit and truth is still bullshit.

That is exactly the kind of logic which gets Trump elected. Many people in this country have real problems. People are dying every day from lack of medical care, etc. They cannot wait around for 4 more years with no action simply because you want peace. If you do not address their problems they will vote in a fascist dictator worse than Trump next time because they are desperate. Desperate people do desperate things and you will end up paying the price for it. We don't need Republicans to vote out Trump. Trump's support is no larger than 35%. He is deeply unpopular. The only reason he got elected in the first place is because people did not realize how bad he is. Now everyone reasonable understands. His base won't change their mind no matter what. But that doesn't matter. It's the swing voters who matter and they realize Trump is a con-artist. The Republicans will demonize any Democratic candidate. Even if it's Joe Biden. So this is a non-issue. That's how devilry works. It will not play fair or pull its punches. If you concede ground to a devil he will just keep taking more and more and more. He will never stop being a devil no matter how moderate and nice you are to him. In fact, he will label you an extremist for not giving him more. The demonization of Warren and Sanders is not an accident. It is how Maya works! People who stand up for truth and love are demonized and executed. This is not a valid reason to not support good leaders. All good leaders will be demonized by the status quo which is corrupted by ego. By your logic Jesus was too extremist to have been a religious leader. You should worship a Joe Biden instead. And indeed, if you were alive in the time of Jesus you would have cheered his execution and worshiped some orthodox Rabbi instead. Because Jesus was radical and rocked the boat. You want peace so you want the status quo, which is actually evil. But hey, it's what you're comfortable with, and from your POV that's what matters most: that you are comfortable. Nothing else much matters to you. That's ego. That's survival. That's evil.

Precisely because desire, sex, and gratification are identical to Nothingness. Why wouldn't you experience them? There is no why one way or the other. Making you totally free to do whatever. When you are fully awake (so to speak) there is no such thing as the ego. So actually no desire is egotistical. All desire is just a natural occurrance. There are not good or bad desires from the Absolute perspective. This is Total Love: to Love all the "bad" stuff so much that it is no longer bad at all. Such love is very radical and threatening to unawakened people because it interferes with survival. When you reach an even higher level of consciousness than you can presently imagine or have ever experienced, you will realize that EVERYTHING IS ABSOLUTELY PERFECT. This is Paradise and Nirvana. And it is liberation. You are liberated precisely because you realize that no matter what happens it is Absolute Perfection. So there is nothing to resist or worry about. Reality is not simply Everything or neutrality. Reality is Absolutely Good. Period. It's not just good. It's THE BEST thing possible. You have not reached this level of consciousness yet. It's very radical. But I can tell you 110% that it's the Truth. I wish one day you discover it.

@mandyjw He will not reform the corruption or change the system. He will be business as usual, which is what lead to Trump's rise. To prevent the rise of awful people government needs to actually evolve and reform in meaningful ways which ordinary people feel. Otherwise dictators come to power with messages of fear-mongering and hate.

@winterknight Wow, cool! I like her too. But her track record is a bit worse than Bernie. She was a fucking Republican! I'm sure she's evolved a lot. But there are still a couple of issues where she's not as strong as Bernie. For example, she still waffles a bit on Medicare For All and her foreign policy is somewhat uncertain. She'd still be a great president of course compared to most other candidates. I hope she and Bernie beat out Joe Biden. She would also make a great VP, setting her up for the future. Joe Biden is terrible.

As I have already said, I am working on integrating a massive awakening.

@GabeN I prefer solo as well. Other people tend to become distractions. Rectal will certainly be much better for insight retention given how much longer it is.

Again, you are trying to frame this in a binary way, which I reject. There are many degrees of awakening. I have some degree of it, not the highest degree, and I am not immune to all pain/suffering. Although there have been times when I was so conscious that pain and suffering were realized to be no different than pleasure. But the body/mind is still not stupid. It still prefers to avoid physical pain, and it still has various desires. Pain, suffering, and desire are really not obstacles when you realize what they are. They are perfectly natural and even good. The desire to eliminate all desire is itself rather delusional. What I've realized is to embrace desire rather than to demonize it. It is perfectly okay if I desire sex, or even if I desire to murder someone. Who are you to say it's "wrong"? That would be ego judging. In a sense, liberation just means that you realize that everything is perfect no matter how anything unfolds. So if you suffer, and you realize that's perfect, you are free of it even though pain is being felt. You are trying to categorize people as "fully awake" but in practice this is very problematic. I don't know if anyone ever is "fully awake" all the time. From what I understand this isn't really possible as you could hardly function as a human at that point. I much prefer to think of it as a spectrum with dozens of degrees of awakeness with perhaps no lower or upper bound.

Show me one example of a person who left the body from doing 5-MeO-DMT. When you find such an example, then maybe I'll worry. Tens of thousands of people do 5-MeO-DMT. So if people were leaving their bodies, we'd be hearing about it. You can broaden this out to all psychedelics. Millions of people do psychedelics each year and I don't see them leaving their bodies.

They are just fools. Don't even listen to them. In this work you must be ruthless with cutting out bullshit. Once you know a source is bullshit, don't waste your time on it. I have never met a single scientist or philosopher who understands Truth or Love. So don't get distracted by their nonsense. Truth & Love is deeper than any science or philosophy can go. Direct experience is the only source of Truth & Love. Other people cannot help you because you have to turn inward to realize you ARE Truth & Love. There exists nothing in reality but YOU! YOU! YOU! If you don't grasp yourself, you're fucked because there's no one else here but you!

@CreamCat I have sources which are far superior to any mastermind group. I just go straight to God. Cutting out all the middle-men. Of course I can still be wrong at times. But so can your mastermind group. You cannot escape being wrong sometimes. There is no perfection in this work. We operate under a severe lack of information at all times. The best we can do is our best. The highest source of authority and wisdom is your connection to God. Everything else is inferior.

Only if you imagine there should have been one

Well of course I do such "science" myself by testing on myself. You cannot understand 5-MeO by doing it on guinea pigs. You must become your own guinea pig. Of course there is value to studying the chemistry of it. But science cannot be used to explain nonduality. I have explained this many times in the past. You can have truth without proof, but you cannot have proof without truth. The domain of truth is much larger than the domain of proof. There are many things which are true which cannot ever be proven with evidence. Because all evidence is indirect. You are imagining lack of awareness. Right now you are aware, imagining that you will one day lose awareness. That is imagination. You are confusing your thoughts of the future for reality. You're not aware that all future is conceptual and happening right now (as an image). The future is an image in the present. That's what future IS!

@Anton_Pierre I've heard all that before. I just don't see it being an issue with 5-MeO since there are no reports of such happening. But if you're so paranoid you're welcome to chain yourself to the coffee table when you trip