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@Javfly33 You're unable to figure it out because the truth is so radical: You have imagined absolutely everything about your life, including your birth, your parents, your memories, the Earth, the solar system, the 21st century, animals, trees, emotions, thoughts, science, fiction, your death, the past, the future, etc. And you are imagining right this moment that you are not imagining all of that but that it is "real". So you're manufacturing all of reality while being in denial about it. If you weren't doing this, you could not exist and there would be no world or other people. So you cannot stop doing it, lest you die. The truth is you were never born. You merely imagine you were. Understanding all of this would give you something akin to a psychotic breakdown. But it is called awakening. When you are fully awake, you can hardly understand how you ever believed you were born. Since birth is just imagination. You are God. Ta-da!

@herghly Anything vaped will hit you like a freight train.

@outlandish Thanks for sharing.

I found something even better

It is everything and everywhere. Look at a coffee table. It's made out of infinite intelligence. EVERYTHING!

I have not come around to anything. You are still conflating relative & absolute domains. Notice the nuance in how I phrased things.

When the world disappears, what problems are left to solve? Problems only occur within the relative domain, as a function of survival. They are important to solve, but only from the relative domain. From the Absolute nothing needs solving. The most powerful way of solving a problem is by realizing it's not even a problem.

No, during the peak of the trip all these crazy synchronicities were noticed. I would describe it as miraculous. But only inside the trip. Outside the trip life appears ordinary.

I have taken it on 3 consequential days and saw no tolerance. I'm assuming it works like DMT or 5-MeO-DMT, which have no tolerance. Which means you could take it multiple times per day. But I have not tired that. I strongly suspect it would work. It is not like mushrooms or LSD.

@How to be wise Ideally I'd post it here: https://www.actualized.org/articles/spiral-dynamics-stage-turquoise

This thread is not the proper place for that discussion. Let's keep it on DPT here. I would guess not. But who knows? Very little research has been done on this chemical. What do you mean by debilitating? It's hard to say. You could try a small doses and get a feel for the vibrations to see if you are okay with them. For me it's no problem. Remember, all psychedelics can be carefully tasted at very low doses. So there doesn't have to be any risk. You are the one who's in control of the risk. A wise person would always start with a threshold dose of a new substance, thus eliminating all potential risk. Even your grandma could handle a threshold dose of any substance. People mostly run into problems only when they dose too high too soon.

This is also an improper way of looking at it. Wish instead to love it all exactly as it is. Stop hating your own self. Anything in the universe which you hate is you hating yourself. The solution is to love yourself instead.

That's the wrong way of looking at it. You created the whole universe, all the people in it, and all the benefit anyone has ever received. You're not just nothing, you're EVERYTHING!

You don't need to buy the book list to download audios. They are free. Just sign up to the newsletter on the homepage for your free Actualized account. I will reupload the Stage Turquoise video to Vimeo.

Do not confuse absolute and relative matters. The context of this thread is a relative one about human societies, religion, etc. Within such a context, social science and developmental psychology (like Spiral Dynamics) is applicable and useful. The materialistic paradigm is a totally different context. The context there is the ultimate nature of reality, in which case it is incorrect. But the materialistic paradigm is great if you want to land a rover on Mars. Science isn't all wrong. It's just limited to certain contexts and it cannot address the ultimate metaphysical questions. Of course there is good science and bad science. Science which contradicts nonduality is bad science. Although even it can be useful in certain narrow situations like building a new iPhone. Who decide which science is good and which is bad? You do, of course! You are the ultimate arbiter of truth. Since you are God and you are imagining this whole game. Whatever you say is true and good will be true and good from your POV.

This is off-topic for this thread.

Maybe I don't think so because what it means to be human is to be limited in specific ways. Humans are a very crude species. We are extremely limited compared to other possible beings. Remember, humans and ants are ultimately one. But that does not mean an ant can do calculus. From an ant's POV a human being can perform miracles.

Your son, your letter, the universe, your life, and your death are all being imagined in the mind of God. Consciousness does not leave the body. The body is an imagination of infinite consciousness. Consciousness is what you really are, and it cannot go anywhere because it imagines all possible locations. Consciousness is nothing, nowhere, nohow, nowhen.

No Yes, that would be how. Extraordinary healing is definitely possible from everything I understand. There's an interesting possibility which people overlook about Jesus. Jesus may not have been a human being. So trying to replicate his results may simply be impossible for humans. It's probably THE most important factor. It matters a lot and will change your trips entirely. The person sitting next to you will cease to be person long before your hand turns into a tentacle. If you do large enough doses you could probably experience your hand as a tentacle, but then it will shift back. Like it could in a dream. Stop thinking of your dreams as unreal. They are as real as the physical world. So all that crazy stuff you are able to do in your dreams is God imagining new realities. God is all there ever is. Everything is God at all times, but you are not aware of this fact because you are so busy imagining being human. To be human is to imagine you are human. This conflicts with being the Godhead. It's hard to be both at once. Your whole life is just God experiencing humanness. God is relentless about it. Becoming conscious of God does not help your survival, and you are so wrapped up in survival that you cannot help yourself. You do not know how to stop and you are scared to death of God. So you actively avoid God, Truth, and Love. Because it's too good for your human mind to handle. That's the trick, it's hard to say how it will affect one's life. You have to be willing to surrender to it and let it take you wherever it takes you. You can't plan it out ahead of time. This whole path is a leap of faith. It's like jumping about of an airplane with no parachute. Later you discover: there isn't a ground. That model is not good for understanding psychedelic awakenings. There is a big difference between nonduality and all models/theories about reality. They are not even in the same ballpark. It's not about drawing conclusions. Nonduality is Absolutely Absolute. It is not a function of a mind explaining things. Explanation itself becomes impossible at such levels. Anyone who tries to advance a theory or model of reality is immediately wrong. It's obvious they do not understand that reality is Infinity and cannot be modeled in any way. They are not conscious of what God is. They are not conscious of how they are imagining all of reality, including all of their models. Those who have experienced the Absolute draw very similar conclusions to me. Be careful assuming that just because someone smoked some DMT and spoke to some aliens that they have experienced the Absolute. There are also many degrees of depth to the Absolute. Some people have only experienced the Absolute in a shallow way, without understanding its full ramifications for their worldview. It's not merely enough to take psychedelics, one has to deeply contemplate the right questions. Most DMT users are not contemplating anything because their trips are 5 minutes of utter chaos. For example, Joe Rogan talks about DMT a lot, but he does not understand the Absolute. Nor would I expect him to because he's not seriously investigating the substrate of reality. DMT is not a good substance for deep understanding because it's too fast acting. Spirituality has a lot of detours, astral realms, and other weird things to it. But Absolute Consciousness trumps them all. It is the ultimate source of all possible realities. It is the Groundless Ground. It is God. It is infinity. You are God, you are infinity. Yes, but it's got a high body load so I don't recommend taking it. Sounds right. 40mg of 5-MeO is a crazy dose. Remember, you can take many psychedelics at crazy high doses and experience crazy and impossible things. You just gotta be very careful. I deliberately do not take high doses. I take as much as I feel I can handle at the moment. This gradually grows me and allows me to handle more and more radical things. I proceed very cautiously. Where most people using psychedelics are like the rabbit, I am like the tortoise. I expect to discover many new things yet. The tortoise wins in the end

@Shadowraix DPT is already an HCl salt.

How else could it be? As far as I know DPT only comes in HCl salt form.

@Girzo You gotta plug it man. It will be so much pleasanter. Once you master plugging you'll never snort anything again. Plugging is silky smooth and painless. Snorting stuff is more harsh and the nasal drip distracts from the show. Snorting N,N-DMT is just terrible. Never again.

I cannot speak for you. For me, it's similar to 5-MeO-DMT in that it creates a state of total nondual consciousness, but then I'm also able to use my mind to contemplate whatever interests me and guide the trip in that direction. It's got a vibratory body energy more so than 5-MeO and it's more visual like a low dose of mushrooms. At higher doses the visuals will become more serious. I did not get serious visuals at 50mg. It lasts almost exactly twice as long. Which is awesome for contemplating. 5-MeO never quite lasts long enough for me. For me 2C-B has a terrible heavy body load. I don't enjoy that. LSD also tends to make my body feel uncomfortably alien. I enjoy the body feel of DPT more. 5-MeO-DMT probably has the least body feel of them all for me, which is nice. It's hard to definitely say that DPT is better than 5-MeO-DMT. I love them both. Both have something unique to offer. Both deserve to be at the top.

Do 50 trips, then let's talk. Words cannot explain.

I am interested to hear from other people who are able to use DPT in a positive nondual way like me. Then maybe we can get a better understanding of what we all have in common.