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Oh ye of little faith. I've bet $1000 that he will.
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One of the upsides of Bernie is that he has 40 years of government/politics experience. A lot of newer Democrats in this primary have some good ideas, but they are just inexperienced with how Washington really works. That's important to take into account. That's one of Yang's downsides for example. Same with Williamson. I worry such people might be somewhat naive about the whole thing. I would like to see a special law passed which seriously protects and even actively encourages whistler-blowers to come forward. It's gross how whistler-blowers are attacked for revealing deep truths. That's pure devilry. Whistler-blowers must be celebrated as heroes.
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Leo Gura replied to Paulus Amadeus's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Of course. I don't see people confusing those two. Someone who has a few awakenings is not a master. But also this should not be used to disparage or deny their awakenings -- which are genuine and important, although incomplete. No one is claiming this either. Self-deception is always at work. Perfect clarity is not how this work works. We are doing the best we can under conditions of limited knowledge and various biases. The issue I have with your advancing of "enlightenment" is that you're stuck on this notion of mastery or total enlightenment as you've chosen to define it, and dismissing anything shy of it. Virtually no one here is going to become a master, so talking about total enlightenment is basically pointless here. It's so exceptionally rare that it is irrelevant. If someone is serious about becoming a master, they ain't on this forum, they are in a cave or forest meditating full time and they don't need any outside guidance. They understand how to do the work. Dude, chill. By shamanic work I was simply referring to Martin's sessions where he guided clients. You get really hung up on technicalities without seeing the bigger picture of the conversation. What Martin was doing is just a variation of shamans offering medicine. Call it what you will. I have read his books, I'm just not hanging on his every word as you seem to be. I read his books and quickly moved on to greater things. I am not interested in following his books as a step by step instruction manual. Precisely because I have other perspectives to consider and I saw problems with some of his methodology, including the dismissal of insight and intellectual integration of trips. I was also not interested in energetically overloading myself. I asked him about the possibility of energetic overload in an email a long time ago. He said it wasn't a problem at all. And I decided for myself that I don't believe that. It is a legit problem from my POV. And I take that into account whenever I trip and with how I suggest others trips. Because it's pretty obvious to me that disregarding energetic overload can be dangerous and reckless for other people if not for oneself. Which is why I developed the plugging method. I don't blindly follow people, I learn from them and adapt it to suit myself. I recommend you do the same, otherwise you might end up following someone off a cliff. -
Leo Gura replied to electroBeam's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
@electroBeam It's just factually false that psychedelic trips cannot be remembered. I can remember some of my earliest trips as though they happened yesterday. The memories can be very vivid and even emotional, inspiring, and awakening. When I go over some of my deepest trips in my memory, it actually shifts my consciousness up a few notches in the now. Insights are also not just a matter of memory. Deep insights change your whole worldview and recontextualize life. I can never just forget that I am God. That understanding is with me no matter how bad I might feel. It's sort of like school. You don't need to remember all the details and facts in order for school to have significantly shaped your life. The trips reshape you even if you can't fully recall them. -
Too long to explain here. I talked about my 1st in an old video. Sorta, but it's so much more radical than what people usually mean by LoA. I don't like that word applied to God's creative capacity. It doesn't even need to think. It is totally direct, even prior to thought. It is pure being. God's "thinking" is just being. It is immediate manifestion via no mechanism whatsoever.
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@Norbert Lennartz has been warned and now banned. Be here to learn, not rant.
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Leo Gura replied to Paulus Amadeus's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
I have never claimed that 5-MeO will clear you of all defilements or produce mastery. My claim was much more humble: that it produces genuine and very deep awakening experiences which are helpful and healing. If you want to purify all defilements that will obviously require far more work and it is not likely to happen through psychedelic use alone, although psychedelics ARE very effective at curing certain defilements. But probably not all of them. To cure all defilements would require lots of daily, near minute to minute practice. It could not be a peak experience. There is value to peak experiences as well as more gradual and mundane daily work. All of this was quite clear from day one. I don't know why anyone would assume that 5-MeO would do all that work for you. That was never it's purpose. It is not a replacement for inner work, it is a catalyst. Which I have said from my first videos on psychedelics. Be careful with setting the wrong expectations. Awakening is not the same as moral perfection or being Christ-like. Awakening is literally just this: becoming conscious of the true nature of ultimate reality. It is not behavioral reform. If you still crave smoking, that's a separate issue. Many of you guys are talking about mastery, which is something that will take you a lifetime of work. It is foolish to equate enlightenment with mastery. And no one has ever said that Martin had mastery. This was quite obvious. Buddhist maps are also poor at taking into account psychedelics. The psychedelic path requires drawing new maps. Actually what psychedics reveal is the inadequecy and partiality of Buddhist maps. The Ten Ox Herding Pics do not work well for psychedelics. -
Leo Gura replied to Paulus Amadeus's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
That was on an early highest dosed snorted trip: 30mg. It was truamatic and felt unhealthy so I dialed my doses back a lot and invented the plugging method, which is much smoother. I have not felt unhealthy energetic overload from plugging about 30 moderate doses. The trips were still very strong, but smooth and healthy feeling. -
Leo Gura replied to Paulus Amadeus's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
It doesn't necessarily gain any ability. Any siddhis gained are an independent factor. Awakening alone does not clear up all energetic issues, or shadow, or ego, or emotional issues, or bad habits. Nor is it development. So there are many factors herw besides awakening. All of this I have stressed in the past. Many awakened teachers have weird personality flaws and shadow issues and pathologies. Awakening does not mean there cannot be a pathology. As history shows. -
@Shiva It's very important for gov to distinguish between small biz and medium biz and gigantic biz. The rules must be very different for all 3. Gigantic biz needs the most oversight because of how much damage they can do if allowed to roam free.
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Leo Gura replied to Paulus Amadeus's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
To be clear, Martin's method of using 5-MeO is very different from mine. I don't endorse blasting oneself with 5-MeO to the point of energetic overload as that can be needlessly traumatic. Moderate dosing is important in my book. -
Leo Gura replied to Paulus Amadeus's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
@Esoteric I specifically asked him how many trips it took him to have his awakening and it was not a lot. Not as many as you mention above. Then he started being a shaman. Which is what he describes in that vid above. And yeah, I stand corrected, seems like he did a lot of it at that point as part of his shaman gig. So he did much more than me then in total. I did not realize he was smoking it in every shaman session. Also, taking on other people's bad energy could be very problematic if that's what his shamanism involved. -
It costs the IRS zero to know your income. You report it to them! If you report over $200k, no UBI for you the next year. If your income drops below $200k/yr a few years later, then you start getting it again. So you always have a safety net but you don't need to use it when you are kicking ass. The actual dollar limits aren't so important. Those can be tweaked to find a good sweet spot. Very profitable corporations like Apple, Facebook, Google, Microsoft, Amazon, and Walmart should be taxed significantly more. They are getting away with robbery. Small biz should be taxed less. Anything under $1M should have low tax so more people are starting small businesses. In fact there should be government rewards for starting a small biz. The point is that people do not need more than a few mil to live extremely well. Anything beyond that is actually unhealthy for society and selfish.
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Leo Gura replied to Paulus Amadeus's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
There are many different ways to do psychedelics. They don't have to burn out anything. There are gentle ways of doing them. And to say that psychedelics only give insights is just false and shows a lack of experience with using them. Martin did not even do a lot of 5-MeO. I've done more trips than him at this point. I was watching an interview with a guy who did 600 DMT trips. Now that's a lot of trips. If you want to do a fair comparison, let's bring up all the cases of people who became depressed, suicidal, had insomnia, or got attacked by demons from intense meditation or yoga. 1000s of such cases are easily found. Spiritual work is messy, period. Do not single out psychedelics here as if all other paths are a cake walk and free of problems. We just don't know what is going on with Martin. We need to wait and see how things go for him. If Martin finally concludes that psychedelics caused his insomnia, then that will be an importnat point to acknowledge and take into account. Although even in that case, it's still just one case. -
How do you pay for UBI? Easy: Wealth tax on people with net worth over $10M Raise taxes on people with income over $1M/year Raise capital gains tax Raise taxes on passive income Wall Street tax Real estate speculation tax Much higher taxes on real estate that is a 2nd or 3rd home. Raise taxes on corporations with cash reserves over $1 billion High taxes on yatchs and private jets and luxury cars No VAT, and people who earn over $200k/yr do not get a UBI at all since they don't need it.
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The video was uploaded but Youtube refused to process it. Stuck at 95%. Which means it cannot be published. I'm traveling until Tuesday so I can't reupload it until then. So we'll just have to wait Never had this happen before in 5 years. There's probably a bug in the video file itself. Requiring a re-render and a re-upload. Now you must fend for yourself. May God help you.
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Nay if it involves VAT taxes, cutting welfare programs, and eating into welfare benefits. Nay if it means no free college, no Medicare For All, no $15 minimum wage. Yea if it is done properly taking all the above into account.
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Leo Gura replied to Conrad's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Nice! That is it. Now comes the hard part: embodying it. -
Leo Gura replied to Gili Trawangan's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
It might happen. We'll see. But don't get attached to it happening, as that just creates more suffering. -
@Finax You misunderstand what I said. Something subtle was said.
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Leo Gura replied to Gili Trawangan's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Unfortunately happiness cannot be attained as an external condition or even an internal condition. Happiness is simply accepting whatever arises, however it is, no matter how "bad" it is. Meeting me will not really make you happy. I wish it were that easy. Rather than trying to get out of your mental state the counter-intuitive move is to just accept it, make peace with it. And that is what ends up making it okay. Then again, you can also act your way out of a funk. Like going outside for a jog or listening to some music. But that is not a permanent solution. Sometimes this work is just fucking hard. * hug * -
Leo Gura replied to Paulus Amadeus's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
@Paulus Amadeus This is significant, but also keep in mind that this is just one case study, and people can be very different, especially when it comes to health issues. Awakened people can have health complications and even mental issues or energetic issues or shadow. Do not expect them to be impervious to stress, and under enough stress even an awakened person should be expected to crack at some point. Again, a lot of this confusion is caused by having overly simplistic and binary notions of awakening/liberation, where you guys think that it's total and there is zero suffering and you are a Terminator. That's a very cartoonish understanding of awakening. It is not clear what the cause of Martin's issues are. So don't jump to hasty conclusions. Let's monitor his case and see how things turn out for him and what larger lessons his situation holds, if any. It seems like this might be part of his spiritual path. This might be his way of purifying himself even further to reach deeper levels of self-mastery. Or it could be some rare health condition. It's hard to say. -
Of course if you are not conscious then no amount of words can help you. But by chasing consciousness you cut yourself off from the very perfection which you are seeking. It's the classic paradox of spiritual seeking. How do you walk a path which has zero steps? And yet you would be a fool not to walk it. So in practice we must do some kind of practices.
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Locking this because I feel the examples posted here will mislead many people, since Coral is so poorly understood. You guys are in no position to talk about Coral. Focus instead on mastering the lower stages. Most of you still do not understand what Yellow and Turquoise are, let alone some hypothetical Coral. @11modal11 The examples you posted and quoted are absurd.
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Leo Gura replied to Shaun's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
@Shaun You must go deeper. This is just the surface level and, honestly, it sounds too much like intellectual conclusions rather than actually being awake. At the bottom of the bucket you will find endless love.
