Leo Gura

This forum software is too tricky for even God to fix. The reason it, this is a 3rd party platform. Which means I can't just go in there and make changes to the code willy-nilly because the code needs to be upgradable, making changes very tricky as new upgrades override old changes. Basically we are stuck with the forum as-is with only minor cosmetic changes. And even those are problematic as they get overridden. And because the code is so complex, every new update introduces new bugs and problems even if it solves old ones. So there's no perfection in this game.

I've done over 70 psychedelic trips. Many very deep ones. Never once have I vomited. Totally unnecessary unless your body feels a need to do it. Healing happens regardless of vomiting. If you eat before the trip, you will almost certainly vomit on a heavy trip. Don't take Martin's method / attitude as the only one. It's one out of many. My trips tend to go differently than Martin's descriptions.

You have to be very careful about biased selection. People certainly do become enlightened using those methods, but less than 1%. How do you account for the other 99% for whom the methods do not work? Just saying they are lazy is not a good enough explanation. The people who get enlightened using those techniuques are the ones who are already highly predisposed to it. You must be highly predisposed already just to do the practices seriously. Don't discount that. Training is important, but also not sufficent. You can train a donkey all you want but it will never reach the deepest levels of consciousness because of its fundamentally limited physiology. Ditto for humans. Shinzen Young proves my point. I do not consider him to have reached the deepest levels of consciousness, and he's been at it for 40 years. Sure, he has gotten a lot better. But he does not understand the deepest mechanics of God. And he probably never will without better neurotransmitters. The Buddha very clearly also had supernatural talent. Those talents just lay dormant until he left to be a monk. Just the decision to give up his kingdom and become a full time monk was already an extraordinary act which could only have been made by a spiritually advanced person. Stories say that the Buddha tried various yogic methods and aced them all within a few years. Clearly a sign of supernatural talent. Be careful not to misunderstand my teachings. Life comes in a spectrum of spiritual abilities, from bacteria to kangroos to humans to aliens to God itself. Clearly a kangaroo is not going to fathom the depths of God no matter how much training. Why? Because of its physiological limits. It is too limited. Humans are better equipped. But still basically not good enough to fathom all of consciousness without augmentation. Humans lie all across the spectrum of consciousness. Some of us are totally retarded while others are Buddhas. This is certainly not explainable by lack of training, although training is often necessary to actualize our full potential. But what your full potential is, is highly constrained by physiology. Also, I am speaking about a lot more here than enlightenment. Consciousness is not merely about enlightenment. There is a width as well as a depth to it. Very few people explored the full width or depth alone, let alone both at once. So just saying, "But Leo, person X is enlightened" doesn't mean much. That is not a nuanced enough understanding of the spiritual terrain.

No, that's not enough to explain it. There are people who access realms of consciousness with zero training which other people cannot access with 40 years of professional training.

What I'm talking about goes way beyond beginners luck. I am talking about physiological brain differences and neurotransmitter differences which give people access to different realms of reality. Training is a thin vineer on top of this fundamental foundation.

The more I study and explore spirituality, the more convinced I am that spiritual talent plays a bigger and bigger role. I have met and talked with people who access crazy superhuman levels of consciously totally effortlessly without training. And these people can go deeper than those who practice for 40 years. It's quite unfair and outrageous. This is like a dirty giant secret of spirituality and meditation which no one tells you about because they want to believe we are all equal. Well, the truth is, we are nowhere close to equal. My experiments with psychedelics back this up. There are levels of consciousness so radical that you will never access them if you lack the proper neurotransmitters.

Actually, if you study some Spiral Dynamics and if you work on your own consciousness, it becomes easy to assess the levels of consciousness of politicians. This allows you to size up people very quickly. You will come to recognize the common tropes of every stage of development. It can take as little as 5 minutes to size up a politician, especially if they are low in development. People are harder to size up once they get into Tier 2, but so few people are in Tier 2 that it's not a problem.

@Harikrishnan No, no, no.

Locking this because I have a feeling people will share things they will later regret and then pester Mods to delete it. Remember, this is a public forum. Don't post things you don't want to be public permanently. Some things are best kept to yourself, close friends, therapists, and lawyers.

My Mom was loosely religious. She read me Bible stories when I was young. My Dad was scientific/amoral/atheist. My parents did not push any beliefs onto me. I was free to think as I liked. I was a pretty firm atheist by middle school because Christian metaphysics seemed silly. But in high school I realized that atheism too was a position and technically groundless and unjustified. But still I assumed it was right because the origin of God was not explained by religion as I knew it back then. I did not realize back then that it was possible for God to create itself. Now I am able to explain how Christianity & God really work to my Mom. And she basically understands. At least conceptually.

@Schahin The difficulty has to do with how you define "you". A person who has never awoken cannot resolve the issue of will because he assumes he is real. That you is illusory. You must discover the Universal You. Then we can talk. Ego assumes it is in control. But ego is illusory. So what then is actually in control? The Universal You.

Search is hard. The forum's search cannot be changed. If you want powerful search learn to use Google like so: "site:actualized.org/forum xxxxx"

That which happens inside a dream is imagination.

I would be careful doing lots of back to back doses.

He still subscribes to many relative truths in order to function in everyday life.

Devil is a tricky word. It can definitely be misunderstood by newbies. Must be careful with it. But it's also a fun word, it's provocative -- which can be good as times -- and once you understand what a devil actually is (by watching my What Is The Devil video) then it becomes a very powerful concept for making sense of the world. It's important for newbies reach a point in their development where they realize, "Holy shit! I really am a devil, aren't I?" That takes maturity and honesty to admit. People who are in denial that they are devils are the biggest devils. Admitting you're a devil is already to have solved half your problems. This is the chief reason why I like to call people devils. It forces them to confront the fact that the devil is not an external force but an internal one. The ego loves to see itself as a hero and an angel. So telling an ego that it's the devil is very shocking and destabilizing to it. It's like poking a hibernating bear in the eye with a pointy stick. Of course an even deeper understanding comes when you realize that all devilry is actually love.

You definitely can't do it every day when you first start. You'll need weeks and even months in between for integration. It should take you at least 1 year to do those 10-20 trips. 10-20 awakening trips before you start to get it. They don't all have to breakthroughs, but many will be. You'll need many breakthroughs.

Yes, I will put forth many practical policies in Part 4.

Again, it's not so simple. Notice you are demonizing Orange. What's missing in your assessment is a lack of compassion for ignorance, which is what devilry is. And also, in your demonization you fail to see the good and love of Monsanto. The people working in that company have families to feed. And their products help feed half the world with cheap food. Without Monsanto many millions of people would starve because crops would be more expensive to grow. The rule is this: anything you think is bad and evil is actually good and necessary when seen from a higher elevation.

@OBEler You can't function in society or communicate with people without understanding relative truth. But relatvie truth isn't really a thing. Absolute Truth is the only thing there is. Everything you think is relative is actually Absolute. That's the delicious paradox.

When all you have is a hammer, everything looks like a nail. Talking about IQ is not going to help improve society. It tends to do the opposite.

God loves all.

I am God. I invented Jesus. I invented Christians.

@Jed Vassallo You won't know until you try. Treat this whole process like a mission to Mars. Each trip holds new surprises and wonders.

Aloneness is really no different than togetherness. As a human you can commune with others. If you were extremely conscious you'd realize all others are you. The ego gets depressed about it because it does not understand the beauty of God. Remember as a kid playing with imaginary characters in your mind? Well, that's what you're doing now when you think of Leo, but on a Cosmic scale. Don't worry about it. Enjoy the illusion of togetherness. Then enjoy the truth of Aloneness. And bounce back and forth between them forever.