Leo Gura

"Oh, they're doing it to themselves? Well that saves me some work."

These are publicity stunts.

No, people just react differently to awakening. Depends on your karma.

@Name Take a piece of paper and slowly draw a big circle on it. Notice that as you draw the inside you simultaneously draw the outside. You cannot only draw the inside. That is how all dualities work. You cannot have an up without its opposite, you cannot have a beginning without its opposite. A division always creates two pieces. And what you're doing is dividing reality with your mind.

I don't know any seriously awake person who does debates.

It probably affects them less severely, but even such people are can be affected. Not everyone goes through a dark night.

You're basically not going to even understand those levels without becoming a full-time mystic/yogi/monk with decades of hardcore practice achieving crazy high mystical states. Those are the kind of things which cannot be written or talked about. You're gonna be all on your own. Don't expect any support, validation, or anyone to understand you.

All of your questions are misguided. You are lacking awakening. So you keep speaking untruthful things.

Sorry, cannot allow a teacher on here who denies the truth of Love and God. That kind of corruption is unacceptable no matter how helpful the person might otherwise be. His formulation of nonduality is simply incomplete. Anyone who denies Love as the highest teaching is simply not fully awake.

@The Don There is no death until you imagine it. You're not yet understanding how deep the relativity goes.

@Javfly33 By your logic, why should you ever care about anyone but yourself? In your self-centeredness you interpret the message of "stop violence against women" as somehow taking resources away from men. Yet this message doesn't mean to ignore men's issues. You lack basic empathy for those who are not you. You are like a white guy in the colonial South who walks by a poster that says, "Stop slavery now!" and you say to yourself, "But why should I care about the slaves when white poor folk are hungry on the streets? How is helping slaves fair?" Stop thinking that helping to elevate others somehow takes away from you. This is a scarcity mindset. By caring about women, you will increase your care for men. By helping animals you will also help the whole universe. << this is the proper attitude. Love is an unlimited resource, so you don't have to worry about holding it back.

Capital S, capital L.

Whatever you imagine it is.

@Wyatt Women in their 20's are super flakey, especially if you're trying to convert from cold approach. Expect massive flakiness. A good way to test for flakes on the day of the date is to text her 1hr before you get in your car: "Doing some chores and then will head out." If she doesn't respond, you know she's gonna flake. If she's gonna go on a date with you, she needs to be responsive to texts.

@Austin Actualizing Research DMSA chelation.

That's due to class similarities. Conservatives love to use cultural disagreements to distract from class differences. So lots of simple-minded people end up supporting Trump for cultural reasons against their own class interests. Trump is clearly not going to help low income people because he's thinks they are scum.

That's how it is. Takes a lot of practice to overcome that. Usually years of rigorous practice are required. This problem of boredom is existential. It goes very deep. It can't be avoided. The point of meditation is to face it directly, which creates suffering -- which is why hardly anyone meditates. Meditation is supposed to be so boring it kills you.

That's a classic example from philosophy of mind / phenomenology. Unfortunately even when you give that example, people still ignore it. Materialism simply discounts all phenomena as "subjective" and therefore insignificant. A materialist scientist will simply not understand how seeing the color red has any importance to science. "Okay, so even if I miss the color red, so what? Doesn't change a thing."

@Bno Trying to win over Trump voters is overrated. It's more important to mobilize the progressive base. Of course Bernie and Yang have some cross-over, which is nice. But Biden does well against Trump in polls. Warren would probably have the hardest time. But then again, caring about what Trump voters think/want is not a top priority. They had their chance, they fucked it up, and they show little remorse. If Trump voters admitted their error, then maybe we could have more sympathy for them. But as long as they act like assholes and keep denying any wrongdoing, no deal. There need to be consequences for electing terrible leaders. You don't get to elect a terrible leader and then come back the next time and make demands about how you're not getting enough of what you want, expecting everyone cater to your priorities. Catering to Trump voters is not necessary to defeat Trump.

I simply consider that healthy Green. Be careful holding demonization as a defining feature of Green. That's pathological Green. Of course Bernie has some elements of Yellow in him. It's hard to tell what the exact percentages are without knowing him more personally. To me he is the poster-boy of solid healthy Green.

Love and forgiveness is the solution in such a case. What such a "test" is testing you for, is the breadth and depth of your love. If you fail the "test", that's okay too. You'll just suffer more. The cure to all forms of abuse is deeper self-love, both for the parent, the child, and the abuser. It's very counter-intuitive because when your survival is deeply threatened the last thing you want to do is love. It takes great wisdom, bravery, heart, and consciousness to be able to love in such situations. And therein lies the "test". Such situations reveal your true level of development. Highly developed beings are capable of embracing it with love. But of course this is rare among humans. We are a crude species. Deeper self-love is the cure to all trauma and injustice.

Firstly, I don't make a big deal about it. I'm just pointing out hidden consequences which you may not have considered to this action. Consciousness is more complex than just mind/body. There seem to be structures which persist between lifetimes. Suicide could affect those structures. In the ultimate sense, everything leads back to total oneness, so there is no problem. But it seems to take consciousness many incarnations to get there. I'm not saying suicide will damn you forever to hell. I'm saying it could be temporary set-back, slowing the overall process. There is nothing wrong with slowing the process, per se. It's all relative. By definition everything that happens is "God's plan". But not in the simplistic sense of everything being predetermined. God's plan is a meta plan which includes your human plans. You have the freedom to make your human plans. No choice is right or wrong. Any choice you make is fine from God's POV. God has no desire to manipulate you and no particular desired outcome. It's imaginary in the same way a brick wall is imaginary. The notion of "imaginary" is much more robust than most people think. It encompasses all of "physical reality". So just saying that something is imaginary doesn't automatically set you free of it. Nope. Humans clearly affect nature with our actions. Even if you decide to take no action, that will have an affect on nature. It is impossible to not take action. Even inaction is a kind of action.

If it works for ya, I'm happy for you. Sure I've been meaning to talk about that model, but just haven't gotten around to it.

Don't be an ass. There is value in talking such things out.

Haha, brilliant!