Leo Gura

It's much more action than rhetoric. I don't listen to politicians' words, I look at their behavior. Rather than believing their words, look at who they shoot in the head.

You are cherry-picking their founders words. I can quote you many of their founders who speak about killing every Jew in Palestine. And not just words but actions. Your characterization of their leadership by appealing to selective quotes deeply misrepresents the situation. You cannot lawyer your way around this. The entire Jihad movement is fueled by destroying Israel off the map. Stop denying this. This is their vision and dream.

It was an atrocity of ethnic cleansing. There is no doubt the Palestinians have legitimate moral outrage over the injustice of being ethnically cleansed from their land. However, that doesn't matter because POWER is what matters in politics, not morality. They do not have the power to get the justice they deserve.

These charters are just political hot air and propaganda. You must look at how their minds actually work. In their minds they believe they should never compromise with Zionists and kick them all out. That's the actual mindset they are fighting under. Some political verbiage in an old document is not what makes fighters fight.

That doesn't matter. These are empty cherry-picked words. I did not say their goal is to exterminate all Jews across the world. Obviously not. Their goal has always been to expel all the Zionists from Palestine. It doesn't matter what the reasons are, whether the reasons are morally valid or not. Their goal remains their goal. And since they are ideological fanatics they cannot be talked out of their goal. So the only remaining option is death. A fanatic either gets his way or dies. But in this case they cannot get their way. So they will die.

Hamas' goal is definitely the expulsion of all Zionists from Palestine. They have equal goals. They both want to ethnically cleanse the same piece of land. This is why the conflict is endless. Both sides believe they can succeed in pushing the other off the land and not need to share it. It's like two dogs fighting over the same bone. But Israel actually has enough technological and social power to accomplish their ethnic cleansing project. Which is exactly what will happen in the end. Power wins. The problem is that Palestinians do not have enough social development to organize well enough nor have enough technology to over-power Israel. This makes Hamas' actions stupid because they cannot win. Hamas will be destroyed because lower civilization is always destroyed by higher civilization. Yes, Hamas is lower civilization, regardless of the moral outrage. The problem is that Hamas is too fanatically and ideologically brainwashed to understand this. So their stupidity will result in getting all of them killed. Lower intelligence is defeated by higher intelligence.

For the same reason Zionists shoot Palestinian children. Both sides want ethnic cleansing in their favor.

Not the same thing AT ALL. You are comparing legit defense of a nation from invasion vs fanatical terrorist lunatics who shoot concert-goers in the head. That I need to explain this to you shows how misguided your view of things is.

Wealth inequality is a huge problem. The issue is how to fix that issue systemically in an intelligent way rather than some stupid way like communism. I don't have a solution. I don't see anyone who has the solution. So until then we are stuck with the current system.

This event was not a terrorism attack. It was apolitical. Terrorism requires a political motive. Please don't label violence as terrorism unless it is politically motivated. I have edited the thread's title and removed some of my early comments.

@Nivsch Well, I'm not saying his reasoning is justified. Bin Landen was a delusional ideological zealot. The land could be shared. But you can't really deny that Israel's treatment of Palestinians causes legit outrage amongst Muslims and Arabs.

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Yes. Read Bin Laden's reasoning for his work.

Great trip. Nice Awakening.

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@Rafael Thundercat Good quote. The only wrinkle is that thought does work if one is in a higher state of consciousness. And thought is still needed to make sense of Infinity.

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Owen is not doing truth-seeking, he is doing survival. All this Redpill stuff is chock full of corruption.

We want Israel to admit that they are doing ethnic cleansing and then to commit to stop ethnic cleansing in all its subtle forms. Until this happens there can be no justice nor peace.

They are a source and sponsor of Islamic radicalism and terror. They regard the USA and Israel as Satanic. So of course they will fight and kill Americans and Israelis with such an ideology. Unfortunately the world is interconnected and you cannot just let radial Islamists with a medieval worldview run loose. Iran's goal is to undermine the existence not only of Israel but also Saudi Arabia, which would destabilize global oil supply and lead to even more Islamic radicalism.

Sorry, that link was also the wrong video. This is the right one: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9TTDFMa90Zs

An enormous amount of projection in all this type of Redpill content. There is no genuine effort to understand the female perspective, which antithetical to truth-seeking and sound epistemology.

Yes, that is planned.

Maybe it is worse. I am not arguing what is better or worse. I am talking about terrorism. For sure Israel also does some degree of terrorism. The ultra right Zionists.

The majority of terrorism done since the 1970's has been on behalf of Palestitian resistance. It's not only Hamas. Also Hezbollah, and more. Although Hamas had bomb makers who supplied bombs for terrorist attacks all over the Middle East. One notorious Hamas bomb-maker was called The Engineer. CIA and Mossad spent a decade trying to find and assassinate him, which they eventually did.