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Right. Which is why what I said doesn't make sense to you. That's not an accident. No. That's not what I'm talking about. I've done a lot of socialization. And what I eventually realized is that none of it truly satisfies me. Even when I go really deep with someone, it's still too shallow. What I'm talking about is a mind that is not satisfied by socializing because it is fundamentally too shallow no matter how good you do it. Understanding such a mind will be challenging for most humans because they don't have it. Which is the whole point of why I made my blog post. The blog post is actually very profound. The profundity of it might take someone two decades to appreciate. Maybe never if you don't have the right kind of mind. Depth of mind cannot be about competition, because competition is shallow. There is no satisfaction in beating another human. This satisfaction is for shallow minds.
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Leo Gura replied to Inliytened1's topic in Society, Politics, Government, Environment, Current Events
@Hardkill Don't forget that 200 years ago our media environment was burning witches. -
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You are doing it mechanically, thinking inside a box you were taught. I do not think inside your boxes. Which is why I understand things other people cannot imagine.
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I am not. You can use the Jungian introvert/extrovert distinction in various ways. I'm using it stand-alone. You're using it by combining with other distinctions and functions. Introversion/Extroversion by itself is not the same thing as that matrix of functions you are using. I can know if a human is an introvert or extrovert without knowing anything about their other functions. It's easy to tell a pure extrovert when you meet one. Easy. Whether they have introvert feeling or extroverted thinking is irrelevant in this case. When you speak of extroverted intuition or introverted thinking you are using intersections of multiple distinctions. Which gets very complicated. But before you get into that complexity you first need to understand the base distinctions without intersecting them.
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I don't know why you call morality that. Morality is your sense of right and wrong. But your sense of right and wrong are shaped by what you need to survive and what your social group needs to survive. Emotions play into your sense of right and wrong and are also biased to serve your survival and your group's survival. So there is this layered sandwich of factors what all work together to serve your survival: emotions, thoughts, beliefs, cultural conditioning, right/wrong, self/other, biological instincts.
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You guys are confusing things. There is extroversion and introversion which drives how one relates to other people. Then there those specific Jungian functions such as Introverted Feeling or Extroverted Intuition. Those are not what I am talking about. I am talking about how the introverted mind or extroverted mind responds to being highly social. The introverted mind gets exhausted from socializing, finding it stressful and shallow. The extroverted mind thrives on socializing and charged itself up like an energy vampire from being around other humans. You can measure a mind purely on introversion/extroversion scale, without any appeal to intuition, sensing, feeling, thinking, judging, perceiving. Just pure introversion. That's what I am talking about. A guy who sits at home for a month and is happy not talking to anyone is a pure introvert. A pure extrovert is a social butterfly who cannot shut up and cannot be alone. I am a pure introvert. And I know people who are pure extroverts. And then most people are somewhere in between.
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Well, it depends on how generally we are speaking. You are correct that the other functions are complicating variables which could even cause inversions. My point was that the more extroverted one tends to be, the more social one tends to be. But also the shallower one's mind tends to be the more enjoyment one will get out of socializing, so the more social one will be. This shallowness of mind is not necessarily all coming from Jungian factors. In general, deep minds are rare, shallow minds are much more common -- regardless of types. There's a lot complex factors at play here if we want to get very detailed about it. Keep in mind that there are many degrees of depth of mind. I am talking about depths of mind which most introverts don't even have. Even though I make use of Jungian factors, I don't limit my understanding of minds to that system. Sure. In practice survival forces people to be social whether they want it or not. It's quite rare to have a career that allows you to be deeply unsocial. Such people exist but we don't even know about them because they are not in the public eye. People like JP and Drake are highly addicted to their careers, which leads down a certain road and demands lots of socialization. You are literally citing celebrities. Celebrities are by definition hyper social. Tesla was not an extrovert.
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@gambler Just apply awareness to your feelings and contemplate what your feelings are doing to you. Suppression of feeling is a trap and I doubt that's what she told you to do.
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Leo Gura replied to Inliytened1's topic in Society, Politics, Government, Environment, Current Events
I don't think the problem is fake content. I think the problem is that social media companies prioritize profits over truth, epistemology, and health. It is because they prioritize profits that they feed people content that confirms all their biases, creating epistemic echo-chambers. Social media companies should be serving minds what is healthiest for them. Instead they serve minds what is most addictive. Social media is basically ideological mind-crack and its users are addicts who slowly waste away until they turn into ideological zombies. -
And?
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Leo Gura replied to Inliytened1's topic in Society, Politics, Government, Environment, Current Events
Echo-chambers. People don't even know the real news. They just know what's in their echo-chamber of social media slop. -
That's Obama's fault. He fingered all the chickens.
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Leo Gura replied to Victor van Rijn's topic in Society, Politics, Government, Environment, Current Events
If Trump gave me a UFO, I would forgive him. That is my price -
You are allowed to feel whatever. The point is just to be conscious of what your feelings are really doing to you and why they are happening, and to not let them distort your understanding. Humiliation is a pretty rare emotion, so it's not going to have much impact on your sense-making. You should be more worried about other emotions, such as your sense of moral outrage -- that's gonna badly screw up your sense-making. Anger, fear, hatred, love, lust, excitement, hurt, envy -- all these will trick you badly.
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@RendHeaven I don't see the relevance of your point. Introverts are less social than extroverts. That's the only relevant point and changes nothing of what I said. Your point would have been stronger if you appealed to sensing vs intuition and cases of people like introverted sensors or extroverted intuitives. I've studied all the cognitive functions.
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Yes. I agree. There is a higher aspect to emotions. However emotions are so tricky that they largely end up feeding self-deception and ego. But yes, there is a higher aspect. Although even this higher aspect is used to create fantasy and self-deception. You can utterly fool yourself with high spiritual emotions. That's exactly what New Agers do. Emotions are one of the biggest minefields in this work.
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It just feels unnecessary. I would rather just focus on making the best content I can, rather than engineering ways to divided it up to milk people. Videos cannot come out any sooner than I make them. To make you feel like they are coming out sooner, I would have to actually delay them. I'm not interested in playing these kind of psychological games. When my work is ready, I just release it.
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Right now tech stocks, AI, the S&P 500, and Bitcoin are all crazy peaking and over-valued. We've been in bubble territory for the last 6 months. And it's only getting worse. How long this madness lasts no one knows. But watch out.
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No, I am 100% talking about Jungian cognitive functions. Whether you are surrounded by people is irrelevant to me. What matters is the core of how your mind works.
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I don't deny or neglect the emotional aspect at all. Emotions are all about survival. The ego's survival. Of course bias is grounded in emotions. Emotions corrupt the mind almost entirely. It's not about cerebral, it's about consciousness. You're not going to become deeply conscious when lost in emotions. Pretty much all human morality is nonsense. It's an unconscious emotional game that the ego-mind plays. It is pure survival. And it must be transcended to reach true morality. The typical human has no idea what morality is or how to achieve it. Your moral/emotional approach will fail. Because it will turn into corruption/survival/self-deception/bias. Yes, empathy is hugely important, but not the naive, biased empathy of common people. Something much deeper and more serious is needed because ego will co-opt empathy towards your own tribe. Your morality, your empathy, your love -- all of it will be used against you to deepen your self-deception. I didn't focus on emotions or morality in this series because it's about post-modern philosophy. I focused on what is needed to make sense of post-modernism. I will have separate videos on morality and empathy. Of course there is deep emotion behind all of human survival, which is why any time I say something radical or brutal people get pissed off me and come here to criticize.
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@Davino is now a Mod.
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National borders are relative to social consensus. A border only exists as long as enough humans believe it exists and are willing to die to defend that belief. If humans were not willing to die to defend borders then borders would be meaningless and effectively cease to exist. You literally see this playing out in Ukraine right now. Putin believes that Ukraine's border isn't real, and he is willing to sacrifice 500,000 Russian lives to shift that belief. Ukraine believes in its border and is also willing to sacrifice lives to uphold its view. Who will win? No one knows. Relativity is playing out in real time.
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Some yes. Most of the new books around understanding society and social dynamics. But there is also some psychological stuff, UFOs, neuro-divergence, personality types, etc. The society stuff is really amazing.
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Leo Gura replied to manuel bon's topic in Society, Politics, Government, Environment, Current Events
Putin wants to exchange some cookies with you. In Russia cookie eats you. In general I am for a multi-polar world, but you gotta be very sober minded about the realities of it as it might lead to war.