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Everything posted by Leo Gura
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He is wrong because you can be right. He is overlooking the possibility of absolute consciousness. What if Consciousness is absolute? He has never considered that.
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The headset is science itself, not perception. He is trying to use the hallucination to grasp the hallucination, which must fail.
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That is impossibly hard to sustain. You are not going to eat raw meat for years on end. That is not even safe. Cooked meat works well enough anyways.
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That is a childish way to view psychedelics. Psychedelics can be that way, but aren't always that way. What gets marketed is the best case scenarios. Not the average experience. No. It doesn't require nearly as much skill or time. 100 trips is still far faster and easier than meditation. You could do 100 trips in 2 years. 2 years of mediation will get you nowhere. 5-MeO is not a free lunch, but it is a cheaper lunch than anything else. Because no amount of meditation will ever make you as conscious of God as 5-MeO will. (for most people) 5-MeO is not the same as meditation. They are qualitatively different things that lead to different places. You should be doing both.
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I am curious how his journey unfolds. It is hard to trust him though because of how he loves to exaggerate his health claims and he's into lots of gimmickry just for the social media attention. But if he is able to find a cure, I'm happy to see it. Perhaps his experimental gimmickry will prove useful after all.
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This is poor scientific method. One sadhu's experience cannot be used to reach any firm conclusion. This is a sample size of 1. Plenty of people can smoke 5-MeO and get nothing profound out of it, because 5-MeO is not a magic pill. It requires serious effort and experimentation. The first few times you try it you don't even know the proper technique for how to use it. You don't know the right dose for you, etc. If I did one meditation retreat and came out of it with zero mystical experiences, it would be wrong to conclude from that that meditation retreats aren't profound.
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Night dreams are very similar to psychedelic trips. In dreaming, Consciousness is unleashed to be highly imaginative. That's why dreams feel so wacky and surreal.
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The only advice I have for him is LDN and carnivore diet. I'm sure he can figure that out himself. Peptides might be useful too. I have yet to try that. It will be interesting to see what his research reveals over time. He's got nothing better to do than chase this issue down. I am sick of chasing this issue because hardly anything works.
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One of the clearest problems with rationalism is the use of narrow metrics in healthcare as a proxy for good health, as if health can be reduced down to a few numbers on a page. Health is a much more subtle topic than that. You never really know how healthy someone is.
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That's hard to answer because it depends on how you wish to define things and where you wish to draw lines. I realized God within 10 trips. But that was a shallow understanding. That was just me realizing God was real. It took hundreds to really understand what God was.
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Yup, this is very true. It is rare to find an attractive girl who has her ducks in a row. Such a girl will probably already be happily married. However, you can get lucky. It is like fishing. The more you keep fishing the more luck you'll get. Cool single girls do exist. But they will never be perfect. There will always be compromises. If you want zero compromises then you just gotta be single.
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Yes. It is one of the only things that I tried that worked. It is not 100% effective. Maybe 50% effective for me. But that 50% is a life-changer. I think the problem is that the body develops tolerance to any chronic medicine after months of daily use. LDN seems to become less effective over time.
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Leo Gura replied to Wilhelm44's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Okay, so what is being missed by almost everyone is that there is way more to God and Consciousness than loss of self. Yes, loss of self is profound and important, but realizing God involves way more than just a loss of self. So my point is: do not reduce this process to just loss of self. That is way too narrow-minded. However, his advice on loss of self is valid. It's just not the Full Monty. -
Leo Gura replied to YIDIRYIDIR's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Yes, however, in practice you can't really separate them. You can't die without going through some kind of process to get there. The process could be quick or slow, but there is some kind of process which will be unpleasant and probably horrifying. If anything, you guys underestimate how horrifying death will be. You are treating it way too abstractly, from the comfort of your armchair. -
That is not an assumption for me. I have direct consciousness of it. I am hallucinating myself and the world. But yes, realizing what I realized takes you beyond human sanity. But still, it is not mental disorder. My mind is mentally stable and healthy. Schizophrenia is a serious disorder/condition. Do not equate it with God-Realization.
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That is the basic theory of Kriya yoga. I have not verified that claim. It is going to vary a lot from person to person. But it's a decent target to aim at.
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That is quite risky. No one can promise you that you won't relapse. It's also impossible to know which chemicals will work best for you without experimentation. The general advice here is that if you decide to experiment, use low doses. Do not take high doses of anything. I would avoid salvia, DMT, DPT, and mushrooms because they tend to veer into insane territory. But this is just generic advice, there's no way to know until you try.
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Leo Gura replied to Wilhelm44's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
It is not right for everyone. But if you want to know God, there's hardly an alternative. The horror of it is not that bad. It is manageable because it also comes with many positive qualities. But I at least want to hear people being animated and shocked by it. If the reaction is prosaic, that's how I know it wasn't deep. When someone acts like "Oh, God is no big deal, just ordinary stuff", that tells how shallow the Awakening was. I've had Awakening where I literally shit my pants. That's a true Awakening. I'm just trying to make sure you guys are shitting your pants, as is proper. -
Leo Gura replied to Wilhelm44's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
I am talking about peak God-Realization. I am talking about realizing that you are God so deeply that your eyes bulge out of your skull in disbelief and horror. Until I hear the shock of God being talked about, God has not really be realized. If God is not totally shocking and horrifying you, you haven't realized it fully. -
Leo Gura replied to Razard86's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Of course. How else could it be? Christianity is a dogmatic belief system, it is not about questioning Reality. When you question a Christian, you threaten their belief system and the ego that resides within it. You assume that Christians want to question Reality and get to the Truth, like you. But NO! They have no interest in that at all. Their only interest is in promoting their belief system. Questioning destroys Christianity, so if you do that too much they will call you Satanic. -
Leo Gura replied to Wilhelm44's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
I say. He is not talking about the highest levels of God-Consciousness. He doesn't exclude it per se, but he isn't speaking of it nor will his ways get you to it. -
Leo Gura replied to Wilhelm44's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
The ordinary version of God is easy. Try finding the extraordinary one The reason they love to talk about the ordinary one is because never even met the real God. -
The epistemic mistake in this example is that smoking 5-MeO a couple of times is nowhere near enough to experience its full profoundity. He would need to do it hundreds of times with serious intent. Imagine if I walked into a Zen monastary, asked them to show me how to meditate, then I meditated for 60 minutes and then made a video saying, "Look guys, I tried this Zen stuff and it is weak-sauce." That is what these videos are like. Such videos are an insult to the depth and seriousness of psychedelic work, treating psychedelics like a toy. If you assume psychedelics are a toy, reality will reflect your assumption back to you. That is what you see in these videos.
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Leo Gura replied to Razard86's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Neuroscience does not understand consciousness, so that is a poor source to cite here. Regardless of the free will debate, there is clearly a difference between egoic and egoless action. But actually, neuroscience could tell you there is a difference between egoic behavior and non-egoic behavior. They are neurologically different. -
Leo Gura replied to Razard86's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
No. There is a difference betweening doing things consciously vs mechanically. When a human builds a nest, he thinks it is his. This is different from a bird. It is a subtle, conceptual difference, not a material difference. Ego claims things. Animals don't have much ego even though they behave selfishly instictively. There is an important difference between ego and just mechanical survival instinct. Humans do things very personally. That's the difference. Ego makes the impersonal personal. You are saying, "Isn't all of life egoless?" And the answer is clearly No, since humans are full of ego.
