Leo Gura

That's not the same thing as development. Being indoctirnated to be kind like a robot is not serious development. How welcoming are they to gays, mouthy women, or atheists?

Nazis were an exceptionally toxic developmental offshoot/freak-show. Germany was very developed pre and post Nazis. Similar to how MAGA is an exceptually stupid form of American development. Occassionally you will have these stupid toxic offshoots. These are mostly noisy outliers.

That's fine, but it doesn't change their situation and their low level currently. Yes, Israel contributes greatly to making their level low. But also, it was never high to begin with. The whole Middle East is a swarm of low development, period. The only reason Israel has high development is because most of them are Europeans. In the end European development simply trumps Arab development. There's no way around that. Regardless of the morals or reasons.

Palestinians have lower moral development, even though Israel is doing ethnical cleansing and war crimes, and Palestinians have suffered great injustice. Just because Israel does nasty stuff does not make Palestinians morally developed. Palestinians cannot have high moral development because their survival is too difficult and their level of education and infrastructure too low. Which is why terrorism is their only option.

@Raze You are consistently failing to see that these two groups of people have different levels of development and civilization. One is higher and one is lower. This is not merely my opinion. This will be true regardless of whatever moral arguments or historical facts you present. And the higher will conquer the lower. This is simply what's going to happen regardless of whatever you feel about it or how unjust it is.

Yes, that's part of the ethnic cleansing. Zionists definitely do war crimes. It's still different from what Jihadists do.

Believe it or not, as bad as Israel is, they do not hijack airplanes nor invade Palestine in rampages shooting everyone in sight in the head. And their intelligence agencies DO take measures to avoid civilian casualities when planning assassinations. Civilians still end up killed, but efforts are made. Palestinians make no such efforts and even target civilians to take hostage.

Funny enough, it's here RIGHT NOW, even when you think you're missing it. You need to stop thinking about getting back to it and just notice that it's always NOW. Rivet your attention on NOW, whatever NOW is. The difference though is that unlike an orgasm Absolute Truth is always happens, always here. You're looking for NOW. So it's paradoxical and nonsensical how you could be missing it. Yet you are in a sense. And in another sense you're not, since it's right here. You can recall your previous Awakening, or you can just focus on NOW and remind yourself that NOW is Absolute. Do you understand what's happening? Your mind is losing track of NOW as it tries to get somewhere special. To get back to Awakening you gotta stop trying to get somewhere and just focus on NOW like a motherfucker for a long time. NOW is Truth. It can take many Awakenings until the simplicity of it sinks in. The mind tries to avoid NOW by trying to go somewhere special or different.

Yeah, but terrorists would still attack America for other reasons. American empire pisses people off on its own too.

Awakening IS the moment you realize what Absolute Truth is. Then you can drop in state but you still know what Truth is. Yes, without Awakening you don't have a reference experience for what the word Absolute means. You are like a guy who hasn't experienced an orgasm. Awakening is the orgasm. You don't need to be in constant orgasm to know what orgasm is. But you do need to have at least one.

Well, "the West" is a gross generalization. I'm part of "the West" and I say it's ethnic cleansing and the US should stop supplying it with weapons. But that's not gonna happen any time soon because the US and Israel intel agencies are allied and share intel and jointly hunt down terrorists.

Yes. Awakening is just increased consciousness.

It is Absolute Truth but in that moment you aren't aware of it as such. Your money chest analogy applies well here. Yes, Being = Perception - Ego But notice, what is ego? Ego isn't really anything substantial. So perception is very close to Being. The only difference is a bit of extra awareness. With a bit of awareness perception becomes Being.

The elites of every nation serve their own class. Nothing new there. That's how all societies function.

Of course it matters to you whether you recognize it. My point is that it is what is regardless of whether you recognize it. Yes, obviously. It is Absolute. All experience is Absolute. You just aren't recognizing it. It's silly to even say it that way. Would you say that if a baby sees a bomb it's a non-realized bomb? No. You just say it's a bomb and the baby is clueless.

There are important differences. But Israel is doing ethnic cleansing. Why is this so hard to understand?

Survival takes place within Being. So if you stop long enough to look underneath all the survival what you see is the underlying Being, which is Consciousness for its own sake. Spirituality is about seeing the Being underneath all the unconscious survival. Emptiness just means free of survival.

That's like saying Israel isn't doing ethnic cleansing because Arabs are allowed to live in Israel. Netanyahu says such nonsense all the time.

Obviously because Zionism didn't yet try to ethnically cleanse them. Their opposition to Zionism is not religious, it's political and nationalist. Zionism built a powerful nation on their land where they were suppped to build their own nation. So of course they want to eliminate that nation. If I built a house on your land your top goal would be to wipe my house off the land. It's not complicated.

Jihadists want ethnic cleansing. I'm done debating this.

Yes. Everything you see right now is Absolute Truth. Whether you recognize it as such or not doesn't change the situation. An elephant is an elephant whether you recognize it or not. You might think an elephant is a giant rock, but that's a you-problem. It doesn't change the situation. The elephant is still there, waiting for you to recognize it. When you get this deep, the difference between objective and subjective collapses. You're just left with absolutely what is. You can frame it in various ways. You can frame it as everything becoming absolutely subjective. Or you can frame it as everything being absolutely objective. They amount to the same thing in the end. I've spoken of pure subjectivity and absolute subjectivity many times. Truth cannot be "proven" so to speak. However, truth is absolute, so that's as "objective" as objective gets. It's objective because there is no "person". The subject is Nothing. When the subject is Nothing, that's really just to say that everything you experience is objective. Truth does not appear to a subject. Truth just is. Truth exists for itself. So in this sense truth is Absolute/objective. Alternatively, you could say that Truth is its own subject. The subject for Truth is not a person or a witness, it is Truth itself. Truth is it so own subject, which is just another way of saying that Truth is objective. Both frames are correct and identical. Yes, it just is. But you can view or conceive of it in different ways. It's not just a semantic thing, it's a perspective thing. You can take various perspectives on it. There are multiple ways of conceiving the same thing. Glass half full, glass half empty. That's not just a verbal difference. That's a difference in perspective/conception. It's your responsibility to see how various perspectives equate and unify.

It's much more action than rhetoric. I don't listen to politicians' words, I look at their behavior. Rather than believing their words, look at who they shoot in the head.

You are cherry-picking their founders words. I can quote you many of their founders who speak about killing every Jew in Palestine. And not just words but actions. Your characterization of their leadership by appealing to selective quotes deeply misrepresents the situation. You cannot lawyer your way around this. The entire Jihad movement is fueled by destroying Israel off the map. Stop denying this. This is their vision and dream.

It was an atrocity of ethnic cleansing. There is no doubt the Palestinians have legitimate moral outrage over the injustice of being ethnically cleansed from their land. However, that doesn't matter because POWER is what matters in politics, not morality. They do not have the power to get the justice they deserve.

These charters are just political hot air and propaganda. You must look at how their minds actually work. In their minds they believe they should never compromise with Zionists and kick them all out. That's the actual mindset they are fighting under. Some political verbiage in an old document is not what makes fighters fight.