Leo Gura

That's fine. Of course "battling" about this stuff is not right. There is only so much Spira can do with words. I don't fault him for that.

Opening your mind to falsehood is no virtue. If you don't want to grasp what I'm saying, then so be it. Suit yourself. It's obvious to me you aren't conscious that you're God. And no clever thing you say will change that. You cannot weasle you way out of this with words.

People can make whatever claims they want. And I can claim they are wrong. There is no way to prove complete omniscience to you. Either you have it or you don't. You are the sole measure in the universe. That's what God is. God's self-understanding is Absolute. Stop looking for any outside measures. You cannot realize God that way. I got frustrated with meditation because it is bullshit. It's not God-realization. You won't reach it through meditation. Omniscience allows me. But you don't understand what that is because you haven't accessed it. I'm not shutting you down, I'm just telling you you're not conscious of yourself as God. But you could be.

You're not going to sleep 4 hours only. This is a silly idea. You can earn 10s of millions in the self-help field if you really wanted to. You just don't want to bad enough.

Was Mike Tyson not asshole and rich enough for you? Most rich and powerful people are actually good and decent people. Be careful demonizing the rich and powerful. Psychedelics are illegal because they would destroy current society if they were widely and fully applied.

Yeah, but that does not imply the highest consciousness. It's actually easy to use the present moment to avoid the highest consciousness.

No, God is beyond all that. Impossible to explain it to you. But it just is. There is nothing higher than God and you will not reach it through Buddhism or Vipassana. All the Buddhist stages are still imaginary, including their enlightenments. People doing Vipassana was still playing games. God is not Vipassana. A Buddhist does not actually understand what God is. It's so obvious.

Bed of nails

What I said mostly applies to the critical phase between 16-30 years old where the foundation for the rest of your life is forged. Once your foundation is forged you can afford more to do relationships and take life easier. At least that's how it worked for me. But most people will not follow my path. There were definitely costs to doing it the way I did it. Most people would not be happy paying those costs. There are trade-off whichever route you take. So don't get the silly idea that there is one right way here. There are dozens of ways.

Of course. But I was not only talking about sex. The entire relationship will consume you, especially as you get real serious about it. Note: I am not saying you shouldn't do relationships. I am just saying, do you understand the costs? I do enjoy deep relationships, so don't misunderstand me.

It's not solipsism. It's something even more radical and shocking: God.

It's still very time consuming even if you have one girl. There is a good reason why monks are celibate. I basically lived like a monk for the first half of my life. And it was amazingly productive.

@Proserpina One day you will become me. Then it will all make sense

If they could do much better they would not be CEOs.

That compass is the truth that your true identity is Love. CEOs are not evil. They are doing the highest good given their level of consciousness. Just like you. But your level of consciousness is just higher by default. LOVE!, you silly fool! Since you are more conscious than most people, you are closer to Love than most people. Because Consciousness IS Love! It's not like love, it IS Love! LOVE! Love is all that's ever going on. The only question is, are you conscious enough to see it? Because God is infinite selflessness. What's happening to you is that you are a moth circling the flame of Love, but you still don't get it yet. You will never be satisfied until you annihilate yourself in the flame of God's endless Love. Because you are it. You are searching for your True Self. The Self that is endless Love. Stop taking Love for granted.

That's oddly true. I basically abstained from sex and relationships for about 10 years in order to fully focus on my life purpose and life's work. This made me extremely productive, creative, and successful relative to those people who wasted their time in frivolous youthful relationships which inevitably crash and burn. My attitude between age 16 to 26 was: "I got so much more important things to do than socialize with girls." But the sex drive was still very strong. Hence porn was a crucial functional outlet. And this still continues for me to this day. I am actually way more productive than most people by have less sex. Sex is a huge energy sink. Productivity-wise, sex is way more dangerous and costly than porn. But also, life is not all about productivity. So I am not saying that you should place productivity above all else. That could be a big mistake. I did it strategically and I made corrections later in life to balance myself out.

I have experienced far more radical things than telekinesis.

Why would you expect every major government in the world to perfectly coordinate their disclosures? China and Russia aren't gonna disclose shit because they are basically top-down authoritarian states. European countries may not actually have possession of alien spacecraft so they have less to disclose. EU is not that much more developed. Only slightly.

Realizing you are God is so terrifying most will never reach it.

God is beyond liberation or ego-death. Teachers who teach liberation aren't fully awake to God.

I understand your position and why you are skeptical. However, it remains that case that there exist much higher levels of consciousness which you have not yet accessed. Your grandma is imaginary. If you just want to enjoy the human life, that's fine. But my work is focused on something beyond that. My work is not suitable for everyone. If what I say is too radical for you, then you can find far less radical spiritual teachers and teachings. But you will not reach the same level of awakening as I am talking about using those more comfortable teachings. They are comfortable precisely because they aren't the highest. And there is no way you can know if what I'm claiming is true unless you go where I have been.

I don't mean what you think I mean. There is no one else to Awaken but yourself. Stop imagining Leo's awakening and focus on awakening yourself. You are dreaming my awakening.

@Leilani Of course what I say does not really contradict what you're saying. It includes it. All roads lead to Oneness, but not all roads take you equally high. I'm not sure what you're arguing about. Why argue about this when we basically agree about God and Oneness?

The funny thing is that most of you guys here need to actually learn and implement Pat's stage Orange techniques rather than making fun of him. Stage Orange is a very important stage to actualize. Don't miss it. I recommend you spend at least 5 years in deep Orange. I did, and it made me much stronger. Of course I'm not saying you should adopt his political ideology.

Dude, that's like quoting to me that Project Blue Book was terminated and the gov does no further research into UFOs. If you buy that, I got some magic beans to sell you. Project Stargate was just one small piece of evidence of a large thing. You honestly think the CIA is going to declassify their most successful and on-going psy projects to the likes of you? And also, psy phenomena is supposed to be vague. No one ever claimed you could use it with 100% reliability. Nor is there any guarantees that you use it effectively in warfare. Most psy phenomena will not be weaponizable. That says nothing about its reality. Just because the Russian's could not use Ninel as a weapon to fuck over Americans does not mean Ninel didn't have genuine telekinetic abilities. Her abilities are not in dispute by the Russians. Your thinking on this matter is sloppy and unnuanced.