Leo Gura

I've heard that silly story many times before and it has never impressed me. Some people are simply tolerant or immune to psychedelics. It doesn't mean shit. If a psychedelic has no effect on you, the test demonstrates nothing. It does not demonstrate how woke you are. I know some people who smoke DMT and it decreases their consciousness. So what?

Statistically speaking most people won't get it. But that's because most people don't really want it. If you want it, you can get it. Be careful with your limiting beliefs which create a self-fulfilling prophecy. If you think you'll fail then you've already failed. You need to have 100% confidence here. It needs to be non-negotiable for you. Don't even allow your mind to entertain the idea that you won't get it. Then again, if you don't really want it (be honest), then maybe just focus on other things. It's okay if you don't want it.

It's not a matter of openmindedness. I am extremely openminded, but years of meditation had gotten me little closer to understanding God or Love. If only it was as easy as openmindedness. One's baseline state of consciousness and genetics have a lot to do with it. There is no way my understanding of reality could be what it is today if all I did was meditation or Vipassana. No way in hell. Like not even 5% of the way. Maybe not even 1%. That's my experience after years of meditation. Your results may vary. I think a hybrid approach of hardcore psychedelics and hardcore meditation will yield the best results. Of course that's double the work. Psychedelics will get you the highest understanding, but they will leave you unsatisfied with your embodiment of it.

Great. A nice intro trip. The best is yet ahead.

Keep in mind, you probably have exceptional talent/giftedness in this area underneath all your efforts and work. This is not the case for most people.

Because it is more physiological and I think physiological rewiring of the nervous system is more powerful in shifting one's baseline level of consciousness. It is also more foolproof than meditation. For meditation to be effective it must be done with extreme rigor and precision which is very difficult for most people to execute on. It's difficult to be that rigorous even for me. And also, for meditation to be effective is really needs to be done in intense, long retreat settings. An hour every day will get the average person nowhere. You really need to meditate for weeks at a time to get somewhere interesting.

You are God. You created yourself to experience being exactly however you are.

The problem is deeper than that because the teacher or guru himself isn't fully God-realized. For example, I don't consider Shinzen Young God-realized yet he has done Vipassana for 40+ years. So obviously Vipassana is not enough. I interrogated Shinzen intensively and I was not satisfied with his answers. That is the trap I am most concerned about avoiding. I don't want people investing 40 years into a practice and still not understand what God/Reality is.

Of course I am talking about the Infinite Intellect of God in a superhuman state of consciousness, not the little human mind.

I agree that psychedelics alone will not produce the embodiment we ultimately want. Some kind of daily mindfulness practice is still necessary and I personally do that. I think a hybrid approach is best. Or, in other words, find whatever produces the best results for you. You can't argue with results.

It's clear to me that people who object to that terminology simply have not awoken to Love or God. There is nothing else you could call it but Love and God. It's so obvious that when you finally awaken to it you will be screaming from the top of your lungs: OH MY GAWD!!!! OF-FUCKING-COURSE GOD IS LOVE!!!!!

I agree with this. Certainly meditation can be used to access facets of God. But to me, actually, to fully grasp God, intellect is crucial, and it gets demonized too much in most meditative approaches. Thus ultimate understanding is missing even if very high states are reached. Reaching a high state is not the same as understanding. And for me the key for God-realization is understanding. God completely understands itself. It is absolutely omniscient. This aspect is not really taught in meditative schools.

That's fine but... 1) Those results are not typical. And I know many so-called enlightened people who outright deny Love or God. Which to me is just laughable. 2) I still highly doubt that your mother is conscious of herself as God. Saying the words is not enough. 3) I think that for some people meditation is much more effective than most people, because of their genetics, personality type, baseline, whatever. So just because it works for some people does not make it effective for most people. 4) 40 years is a lot of fucking work.

Of course his politics is cartoonishly self-biased. He holds his worldview because it finacially benefits him to do so. He has little intellectual depth or systemic understanding. His focus is very material and practical.

@Consilience I don't mind your perspective. I don't doubt meditation has been powerful for you. I'll just ask you this: how come when I talk to people who have done Vipassana or self-inquiry for years and decades, they still have no clue what God/reality/Love is? How is that explained?

Since many of us here are INTPs I thought it would be useful to start a collection of resources for this personality type. If there is high demand, we can do the same for some other popular types.

@Blackhawk You are being dumb so I will no longer waste my time on you.

Only because you aren't conscious enough. This is irrelevant from the perspective of truth. Truth is not about serving you.

No The physical difference between ice cream and torture has no objective reality. That's what ONENESS means.

It doesn't matter. The Truth is that all differences is imaginary.

@Thought Art You're doing good. Keep at it.

The difference between torture and ice cream is purely imaginary. That's a bias you have because you're selfish. The problem isn't that God/Love is too shocking, the problem is that your level of selfishness is so astronomical that you can't even see that torture and ice cream are identical. That's how fucking selfish you are You honestly believe your selfishness is truthful, haha.

Sounds too long. Took me 1-3 years.

Seems highly suspect. The fundamental problem here is that if you think you can outsource the marketing of your business (the most important part of all business) to someone else, you're fooling yourself. You need to take complete ownership of the marketing problem if you care about success. You can find marketing courses that are way cheaper that will teach you the basics you need to know, which then you can apply yourself in creative ways. Don't be expecting some business-in-a-box solution to your biggest business challenges. You gotta build it yourself. My bottomline principle in biz is this: If you can't figure out how to make the money come in, nobody else will do it for you.