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Leo Gura replied to How to be wise's topic in Society, Politics, Government, Environment, Current Events
I'm calling bullshit those estimates. I see no valid science behind them. Someone is pulling those numbers out of their ass, or however they do their surveys is highly biased. Show 10 Yellow political commentators for every 100 Blue/Orange/Green ones. You will be hard-pressed to find 1. You certainly will not find 5 or 10. -
That's already a bias. For me, understanding is its own end. It does not need to have any practical value. Although of course often it does have a practical value, but I don't really care whether it does or doesn't. To me understanding is like art. I enjoy it and I don't need a utilitarian justification for participating in it. But how will looking at art grow me? The correct answer is: It doesn't matter! Of course embodiment is very important. But it should not be the only thing. Most understanding does not require action per se. Some does, but most doesn't. All human advancement is predicated on correct understanding of a thing. You can't land a man on the moon without understanding physics. You can't cure a virus without understanding how viruses work. You can't fix your life without understanding what's wrong. You can't vote for the right person without understanding politics. Etc. There is no formula for not getting lost. You must remain forever conscious and flexible. In the end, growth for the sake of growth becomes just another tail-chasing activity. There is no end to growth and devoting your entire life to maximizing growth is really not a good attitude because you'll be running like a hamster in a wheel until you die. Chasing growth is not much different than chasing money or women. Grow as much as you feel you need to in order to be satisfied and enjoy life. For me, what I enjoy is understanding reality. I don't do it to get something out of it other than joy. If you don't care about understanding, then do whatever you care about.
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@James123 Watch your closedmindedness or you'll be kicked out of here.
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The thing is, as much as enlightened folk poo-poo conceptual understanding, human society is only going to become even more conceptual in the future. Avoiding concept is not a solution. The way out is through, not around. Humans need to learn how to use their minds properly. And that's where I come in. Telling people not to use their minds is not a solution to our problems.
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Leo Gura replied to How to be wise's topic in Society, Politics, Government, Environment, Current Events
Of course culture has been controlled by elites and intellectuals in many ways for a long tine. But as democracy increases this will become less true. Stupidity will be more represented, as we have been seeing in the last 5 years. The days when elites fed you ideology from the top is starting to give way to grass roots ideology from the bottom up. And there is backlash. 10% is really flimsy. The other 90% will be unconscious and rebel and demonize those 10% even if the 10% are good and true. Also we are very far from 10% wise Tier 2 people. I think all the Spiral percentages are over-inflated. Less than 1% is Yellow, realistically speaking. -
That's what happens when you get stuck in ideology and don't bother to think deeply about epistemology.
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Reality is infinite regardless of how much you embody too. There will always be a neverending amount of spiritual work.
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How can such a thing be quantified? I certainly have a lot deeper to go with my embodiment. You have to keep in mind though that my primary focus is on understanding, not necessarily embodiment. You can understand far more than you will ever be able to embody in one lifetime. To me, conceptual understanding is not some dirty word. It's the bulk of my life's work.
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They are and they aren't.
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Except it can. That's the whole point. It does not matter that content is present. Enlightened people have content in their experience all the time. Content does not hinder enlightenment. It would be silly of it did.
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You expect a lot for nothing. Good luck with that. That kinda thing is what coach training programs are for. Coach training for someone who's in high school or college is not really appropriate. People that young lack the wisdom and life experience to coach others. Of course you can learn coaching at any age, but it's gonna be hard to get people to take you seriously.
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@James123 Broken record you is.
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Nah thanks
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Every generation has been yelling that the end of the world is happening soon for 10,000 years. Pardon me if I yawn and go about my day.
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Truth is not being nothing any more than it is a chair. You are stuck on the nothingness side of the coin. You're missing the complete coin. So ironically you're stuck in duality.
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Yes, I know it is difficult. But what would you do if you were acting from consciousness, love, and no fear? Personally I've invested several years just letting go and pushing less. It cost me a lot of productivity and money, but that's the cost of learning new ways of living life. Pushing constantly, mechanically, might have gotten you here. But what got you here will not get you to the ultimate stage. You must learn to do things in new, more holistic ways. Neurotic habits must be surrendered. This is "the work". You cannot just go through life like a mule. Stage Blue tends to be mule-like and there is a price to pay for that. Life requires requisite variety. See my blog video about requisite variety.
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Society has survived just fine unconsciously for the last 10,000 years. It ain't going anywhere. There is nothing at all special about our century. This is how society is. This is business as usual. Chaos isn't some special condition. Chaos is the norm. It has always been and it will always be. So get used to it and stop crying Chicken Little the sky is falling. Haven't you noticed yet that every generation screams the sky is falling? These cries are just the self-importance of ego. You ain't so important that society's survival hinges on you. Even if half of us die, society will go on just fine without us.
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@James123 Dude, what you're saying does not contradict what I say. You're like a broken record. You're not being perspectival or relativitstic enough for this conversation. It's like you see one side of the coin and refuse to see any other. Yes, you can exist without any form whatsoever. And so what? Why are you giving that state some special privilege?
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Yes, you can do it. I explain how in my video: How Openmindedness Works, and my other openmindedness videos. I've covered this topic a lot.
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Of course What guru dismisses work ethic and discipline? You're making stuff up. Any good guru will be the first to tell you how important discipline and work ethic is. In that case you gotta do your work more consciously, balancing it out with self-love, authenticity, and time for rest and contemplation. Working like a robot is not enough. You must work CONSCIOUSLY. Stage Blue falls into the trap of being disciplined in an unconscious and mechanical way without pausing for deep self-reflection. Blue tends to work hard but not wise. Sounds like you're falling into the trap of being a robot and not doing the kind of work that your heart calls you to do. Make a distinction between mechanical work for the purpose of survival and material gain vs conscious work for a higher life purpose. When you start to follow your heart and LP, you might find that your work output decreases as you slow down and dive deep into exploring yourself. When you do this you're building up your root system that will enable much deeper work in the future but at the cost of less output in the short-term. Balancing all this out is tricky. It's easy to fool yourself and fall into on extreme or another.
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It's ironic, cause Trump is the greatest traitor we've had in a long time and his Blue MAGA chuds love him.
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Corporations help millions of people every day. Don't be so negative on corporations. When your kid is dying of cancer, some corporation can save her life.
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Take some 5-MeO-DMT and see for yourself. Of course. I don't contradict that. What I'm talking about is not a thought process. Of course. I don't contradict that. No, those are your mental conclusions and assumptions. I have already dived deeper than you. You are not bothering to try to understand what I'm communicating. Like I say, this work requires radical openmindedness and a willingness to test things. If you think you know everything, then that's the end of your journey and I cannot help you further.
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Sure, they are around, to various degrees. I'm not gonna waste my time guessing what other people have realized. I will just stick to what I have realized. Infinite Consciousness But it is not other than Nothingness and not-knowing. Infinite Consciousness is not a thought. Your own experience contradicts this. You can keep telling yourself that, but there are many things you are not yet conscious of. I disagree. It's not superior per se. And it's still nondual. What I say doesn't contradict nonduality. It is nonduality, just at a very high degree. Modern psychedelics like 5-MeO-DMT and DMT are new. And just because people in the past used them doesn't mean their knowledge has reached your ears. It died with them. What I say fundamentally aligns with all mystical and spiritual traditions and teachings. It's just a question of breadth and depth of understanding. I know the Nothingness/Emptiness of which these Advaita and Zen teachers speak. But there's more beyond that. Your consciousness is the final arbiter of everything. Find out for yourself what is the case. I'm just pointing out things that you might otherwise overlook.
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Most teachers come from traditions such as Zen, Buddhism, or Advaita -- all of which they never question. These traditions guide students towards pure emptiness. When a student hits this pure emptiness, he assumes that's the end of the road, when really, it's just the end of the road for the methods he was using. But by this point he's so steeped in nondual dogma that he has no desire to even try new methods because he assumes emptiness is all there is. This is why people can be "enlightened" but still not be conscious of what God or Love is. To realize what God is it is not enough to fall into emptiness, you must raise your consciousness to a high holistic level to grasp the entire dynamic of the imagined dream. It's not enough to just extinguish the mind, the mind must become Infinite -- at which point you will have infinite self-understanding.