Leo Gura

I don't deny that any states exist. You can have a mystical experience of Jesus. And of thousands of other humans. That doesn't mean what you may think it means. It doesn't mean it's the historical Jesus. It's your construction. Which is fine, as long as you're aware of that.

I will continue to do it because your life is not at stake here, but mine is. I reserve the right to edit anything I say at any time. The demonizations don't come from you, but from outsiders who are bad faith actors with harmful intentions.

I edited my own words. I do that sometimes to stop people from demonizing me.

Depends on what you mean by believe. Of course. But I know what a belief is. I take feedback all the time.

If he had the wisdom to stick to his business, we wouldn't be talking about him. But he is corrupting the entire government. So it is our right and duty to call him dangerous. Musk wants to take democracy away from us. This makes him an enemy of the people. No amount of business success can excuse such a grevious sin. If Musk is gonna play dirty and undermine democracy, he should be worried about a lot more than just about critical words. He has no idea what tree he's barked up.

The world's greatest gamer would never lie.

You speak of some imaginary harm which I spend no time thinking about. If there was a real harm then I would care.

Sorry to hear that. Unfortunately some addicts will just destroy themselves. You can't save everyone. Keep in mind that most serious addicts have much deeper issues than merely a chemical addiction. The chemical addiction is just a coping mechanism for their miserable existence.

Good luck with that

@Francis777 Using truth to hurt people is very different from them freaking out at you for their own petty reasons.

I will happily be the biggest freak in the world. As if anything humans understand matters.

You don't see why a guy who does business with the government and intelligence agencies and world leaders would lie about habitual use of legally questionable "drugs"? NASA almost cancelled their contract with Musk after he smoked weed on Joe Rogan. You think if Musk was addicted to it he would tell you about it? Do you think he even has enough self-awareness to admit to himself if he is addicted?

This is misleading false equivalence. What's not being acknowleged is that relgious people can easily have all sorts of mystical experiences and yet still be very self-deceived and thereby never properly realize God or Love. Christianity gives the mind license to conflate its fantasies with God and Love by not teaching people how to seperate out God from Christianity and all human constructions.

No. This is very poor logic. An exceptional person can experience God and Love under almost any circumstance. What really matters is the average user of the teaching. And there are many harmful side-effects of religion which are being conveniently ignored. Just because a Christian has an Awakening does not mean that Christianity has been validated. This is actually even more dangerous because now the Christian will excuse away all the problems that Christianity causes, as happened in this thread. And a Christian Awakening is not going to be the same thing as other kinds of Awakenings. It will come with all sorts of fantasies and self-deceptions. And there is far more at stake in life than just Awakening. There is politics, and much more. A Christian can have an Awakening and then go right to believing that Palestinians are demons. Christians will use Awakening to monopolize God for themselves in narcissistic fashion and use it to shove their verison of God down your throat. And use it to justify all their other false and limited beliefs, of which there are many. The whole beauty of God is that it isn't Christian. God cares about Christians as much as Christians care about bacteria living in their butts.

I thought it would work but it didn't.

Ah, yes. Musk famously tells you the truth.

No. I am non-partisan.

It's very simple: I accessed such advanced states of consciousness that they are very difficult to make sense of and articulate. I share stuff on this forum in unpolished form because this is where I hash out my ideas and think out loud. Not only were these states very advanced, accessing them destablizes the psyche and has serious risks and costs. You expect this stuff to just come easy and polished, but that's not how it works. I share a lot of raw and real stuff with you guys which no other teacher would share. That means it's less polished and packaged. I share parts of my process. Set your expectations accordingly. You have a very entitled attitude. I don't owe you anything. I share very radical ideas which no one else would ever share with you. I put my life at risk to reach the highest states of consciousness. And then I have to put with your mockery.

He gets high off his own farts.

@Daniel Balan Take it easy man.

@mmKay Your link seems broken.

I'm not too nitpicky about it with him. His general idea was correct: that everything is happening in the mind of God. I forget the full details of his view. I'm going off 20 year old memories of his work.

I've never needed that in 300+ trips. I don't really believe in evil spirits. I've never had my consciousness leave anywhere. Consciousness is always here for me. Shamans usually hold a lot of dogmatic New Agey or Stage Purple beliefs. Nope. If you encounter something like evil spirits or energy, the proper technique is to send them loving energy and good wishes. Don't panic. Ground yourself in your innate Love which is your true nature. You can't really do better than that. I have tried over 30 different chemicals and never encountered an evil one.

Of course. Easy. The only challenge is deciphering their confused, murky language, blabbering, and handwaving. God can be accurately described in a few words by one who knows.

@aracid Thanks for sharing. This is good for us to know. I'm glad you sorted it out.