Leo Gura

Transcend and include. That's what you must do with science. You don't abandon it. Of course material developments help with spiritual development. If done properly.

Read the opening post. You expect all women to be as conscious and developed as you, when most of them are not at all.

In that case he used her for sex and was rather an asshole. It's very different doing a ONS based from some loud nightclub vs luring in a girl with all this spiritual talk. All the spiritual talk makes it seem like this is gonna be something deeper than a ONS. Spiritual talk is so easily weaponized to lure girls in and then break their hearts.

Nothing wrong of course. But the longer you drag it out the more energy you potentially lose since a girl will not be truly invested in a guy until sex. So the longer it takes the more likely you are to lose her. That is generally the how it works. Attracting the hottest girls requires much higher skill. Attracting average girls is way easier because there is less competition. Fair point. But it is sorta the case that plenty of women don't reward decent behavior in men very well. The whole, nice guys finish last. There is truth in that. The reward is not just sex, but the relationship itself. There can't be a relationship without the sex first. I have lost plenty of girls who I wanted relationships with but the sex never happened therefore the relationship never happened either. Except it doesn't necessarily come. Women are fickle and change their moods and minds easily. So dragging it out means you will lose some girls. That may be acceptable, but it can also be very frustrating because you get invested in it.

Obviously attraction is relative. Whatever your perfect 10 happens to be, it is that FOR YOU, not for everyone. Not everyone is looking for the same things. This actually makes attraction a bit easier. If you talk to enough people chances are really high that one of them will love you.

Of course it can be afforded. The issue is one of misplaced priorities.

Only if you got zero ego Imperfection = ego

You can certainly experience empty or formless consciousness/awareness/being. But also, form = formlessness, so don't fall into the trap of thinking that formlessness is above form. Consciousness/awareness is Nothing. But you can "experience" this Nothing, for lack of a better word. If you've ever had a dream in which you die, perhaps you can recall the formless consciousness that remains after all the images have stopped.

It's possible the same way anything is possible: you dream it up. Of course there is no gaurantee your dreams will correspond with your other dreams. But also they might. Dreams are strange things.

Just finished recording another interview with Curt. 7hrs+ Juicy stuff.

And I never will. I'll outsource the clowning around to the clowns. The reality is that my awakenings are too profound and subtle to capture on camera. I wish I could capture them but it's not remotely possible so I don't want to try. It also doesn't really help people do the work. It's more like a dog and pony show for noobs to giggle at.

Of course the boyfriend frame is the best if you actually want to be her boyfriend and do crazy intimate stuff together. I love the boyfriend frame. It's just a shame that girls punish it's implementation by withholding sex or even mistaking it for neediness. You are sometimes forced to play the player frame to get the hotter girls because the boyfriend frame can come off too needy or clingy -- not edgy enough. It can be effective to do the player frame up until the 1st sex and then switch to boyfriend frame after. It sorta depends on the kind of girl and what she expects and the situation you meet her in. Loud club game will be quite different from day game. Player frame is more suited for night and boyfriend frame for day.

This is the logic of a fucking devil. To me it matters very much. Not because it matters to others, but because that is not how I want my work to be. This is not about clickbait or gaining subscribers for me. If I wanted to do that I would be playing video games. You can be as crazy as you want and maybe people will even toss you a few nickels. But will you be able to live with yourself? Integrity in this work is crucial. Spirituality cannot be anything-goes.

Of course. Truth cannot be a choice. Truth can only be a tautology. 1 = 1, A = A. Everything is precisely whatever it is. And to fully accept that is Love. It's only the ego-mind that needs things to be otherwise than whatever they are. Peace can only come with tautology, when there is no choice. Choice is stress, not peace.

Firstly, good work on your thoroughness. That's some serious effort. Sorry, so long, couldn't read it all. However, to answer: 1) Yes it is possible to take psychedelics in your dreams and have even deeper trips than taking them in "real life". I have done that. But I did have lots of prior psychedelic experience. However, it's not like the insights in the dream trip are exact same as the insights in the normal trip. They can be significantly different. It's hard to say if they correspond because 5-MeO is experienced quite differently by different people. But generally what you're describing in within the ballpark. I have had some mystical realizations within my dreams which just don't correspond to any kind of psychedelic, but they are still legit realizations and some are very powerful and exotic. Of course you should expect such a thing to be possible when everything is a dream. Physical DMT is dream stuff. 2) No, I would reserve Heaven/Nivrana/Paradise for even higher states. Imagine drowning in Infinite Love so deep it has no form and it never ends. That might be a better description of Heaven/Nirvana/Paradise. Or imagine just raw infinite pleasure forever. That might be closer to Heaven.

It got wonky because he is mentally ill and uses his channel to make money from his putting his mental illness on show.

Connor ruined it for everyone.

I've never worried about crying in front of a girlfriend. In fact I think it's a technique more guys should use. It builds crazy intimacy. Of course you wanna do it very infrequently when the situation really calls for it. Not over petty things. If your woman can't appreciate you crying, you probably should upgrade your woman. I find that the higher quality ones, the more conscious ones, will appreciate it and actually want to be there for you when you're suffering through heavy shit. Then again, if I cry in front of a woman it's not gonna be tears of sadness or misery, it's gonna be tears of love and joy. That is a pretty big difference.

The mind will definitely plays tricks and develop blindspots for a person's physical deficiencies if their personality is really great or they have some other values to compensate with. For example, I notice that I automatically become more attracted to a girl if she is really attracted to me. I can literally notice my mind starting to rationalize away some of her physical deficiencies. Not entirely but it's amazing to observe it in action. It's like self-deception happening in real time. The mind spins this illusion of love for the other person by overlooking all their flaws, at least in the short-term. The mind can relax its standards, especially if the mind gets many of its needs met by doing so and there is no other easy way to meet them. If you are desperate and horny enough, your standards shoot way down. Same if the person has an amazing personality that really clicks with you. That's why dating only 10s and 9s is not so important because its more than compensated with personality and other convenient qualities. For example, as a guy, dating a 10 or 9 would probably make you insecure about losing her. Which by itself might not be worth the stress and worry. But an 8 or 7 you can feel confident you can keep because she is more loyal and her attraction to you is stronger. And that attraction ego-boost itself can be more rewarding than sleeping with a lukewarm 10 who doesn't see you as her God. So counter-intuitively you can gain more by lowering your standards a bit, but this requires a more holistic view of the person, with less focus on pure aesthetics.

1) Did you have any intentions of seeing her again? If yes, why didn't you communicate that to her? 2) Why didn't you fall asleep cuddling with her? If you want to keep a girl around and treat her well, cuddling and sleeping together after sex is crucial. Last time I checked introverts enjoy cuddling and falling asleep together with girls. 3) If you had intentions to see her again, why did it take you "a few days later" to see how she was doing? In this situation, if you intend to keep her around AND you asked her to leave after sex, you gotta immediately follow up with some reassuring texts like, "Can't wait to see you again." If your whole intention was just to bang her one time, then yeah, you kinda were an asshole and you did kinda use her with all that spiritual sweet-talk. You sneakily used spirituality to lure her in for a rather unspiritual deed (a one night stand). Even as I was reading your post/story of the events, when you wrote that you had sex with her, that struck me as overly stealthy and unexpected. Like you set up this perfectly executed plan to let down her guard and open her legs. But otherwise, you were just inept in your communication and relationship skills.

Awakening is the most appropriate word I know for it. I've had deeper awakening through psychedelics than some people who have meditated for 30 years. I don't label by the hours invested, I label based on degree of consciousness and insight reached. It's not just about me, it's about how easily people misinterpret and misunderstand the teachings. It does not serve my function as a teacher to release stuff that gets badly misunderstood. Nor does it serve this community. You guys don't want to be known for following a careless lunatic.

Yeah, well, as they say, There's a new sucker born every minute. Youngsters make the easiest marks. YouTube not only has casino scammers, it has pedophiles hunting for kids. It's still the Wild West out there in internet land.

Lol To get that you'd have to become so woke you drop dead and enter the afterlife.

Pretty much yes. If I were to place you and that girl alone in a room together, you would be so nervous, fearful, shy, and inept that she would never get attracted to you. You're not man enough to talk to her, never mind fuck her properly. To successfully keep a girl you gotta feel slightly or significantly higher value than her. If you treat her like she is the prize, she will quickly lose attraction for you. She needs to be able to look up to you. The guy who will attract that girl will be a scumbag player who has 3 other girls she's fucked that week and gives little care about this one. He will be some rockstar, DJ, celebrity, player, millionaire, artist, etc with lots of obvious social status. Or he will be some gnarly roided up weightlifter covered in tattoos who punched his previous girlfriend in the face. I know. I wasn't speaking to such childish pipe dreams. Yup, pretty much. Dude, that girl you linked is a unicorn. That's not how women are. You linked the top 0.01% of women. You have an extremely cartoonish notion of women. I have gone out the hottest nightclubs in Vegas for months at a time. I have approached probably over 3000 women. And in all that time maybe I seen a handful of girls that hot. A girl like that has so many dicks orbiting her that just finding her single will be next to impossible because as soon as she dumps one guy she's with another guy the next week. A girl that hot is getting approached by multiple guys per week just as she's walking around doing her chores during the day, or at work. Guys are blowing up her phone to get her out to some club or party because they wanna get with her. Offering her free meals, free drinks, free rides, free airplane flights, free vacations, job interviews, networking events, fancy private parties, modeling gigs, film auditions, etc. This girl is using her body to survive in the Social Matrix and she's good at it. The kind of men you probably shouldn't be. Yes, I get that. But you can still get turned on A LOT by women who are not models. When you actually get an above average naked girl in your hands, you will be so turned on you will not need a model to fuck. You will be happy fucking her. You've grown up on too much porn & models. This has skewed your view of women. - - - - - It's not that you can't attract a hot girl like that. It's that you'll realize it isn't worth all the chasing and work and bullshit. What you really want is a deep connection with a cute girl who is well-matched to you, not an empty model.

Of course! The more a girl likes you and sees you as boyfriend material, the slower she will be in doling out the sex. Because in her mind she respects you so much that she wants it "to be special" and not cheap. The cheap quick easy sex is for the douche bag player who she will never see again. Girls are super counter-intuitive. This is otherwise known as setting the boyfriend vs the player frame. If you set the player frame, she will have sex with you on the same night. If you set the boyfriend frame, it will take 3 dates. I once was gonna have sex with a girl who really liked me in my car. But I had set the boyfriend frame. So she said, "No, I want it to be special". This is how girls think. Everything is backwards. You will not be rewarded for the boyfriend frame like you might expect, even though that's what she most wants. The other problem with just playing with her but not closing the deal is that very often she will flip her mood the next day and never call you back because she feels like a slut or just awkward. It's quite risky to not close the deal. If you got her half-naked, it's usually best to close the deal. The chances of future success after that situation drops quite a bit. My general rule of thumb is: don't get her naked or too horny unless you can close the deal. Because setting up the next date will be so awkward in her mind. If your plan is to court her over multiple dates, then the best move is to not push for sex the first date. Then you don't come off as cliche pushy guy and she will be excited for it on day 2.