Leo Gura

Ukraine did not bum-rush their way into Russia, killing everyone on sight.

@Raze Hamas provoked the bear. You see the result in Gaza's ruins. You need to understand when you a dealing with a force way bigger than you. It is like you are fighting a tsunami.

In a war between Palestine and Israel, Israel will win. There is no question about that. Don't provoke the bear.

That is not a matter of rights, that's a matter of raw power. You can try to fight a grizzly bear, but you will lose that fight. The Israel-Palestine situation is not going to be resolved with moral grand-standing. It will be resolved through raw exercise of power. Which is exactly what you are seeing in the news.

Rationalists love to rationalize all their biases with evo psych.

Yes, however: 1) The entire Middle East lacks development, of their own making, independent of the West. You cannot blame most of their underdevleopment on the West. Their underdevelopment is home-grown and hitched to Islam's regressiveness and ideology. 2) Even so, you cannot expect today's Israeli politicians to sit back and allow vindictive Arabs to just slaughter them. That's not how politics works. You are expecting a level of selflessness from Israelis which they are incapable of. It is like you are expecting a grizzly bear to just sit back while you slap him across the face. For sure the grizzly bear will over-react. And you will scream, "But it's not fair! All I did was slap him." But the grizzly bear does not care about your ideas of fairness.

I have a realistic view of their development. It just so happens Palestinians are even less developed than that. There is much lower development than Blue/Orange.

That is way too intelligent of a thing for a Red Piller do be doing.

Minority rules, not the majority. A radical Islamic minority will hijack any Palestinian state. That's the whole problem with why you can't give them a state. That's way too optimistic. Yes. That's the problem. Leftists over-estimate human development, again, the liberal mind projecting itself and failing to recognize it. Everyone is less developed than you assume.

1) Because they demonstrate it with Oct 7th. 2) Because they say their goal is to annihilate Israel and take back all their stolen land. 3) Because their stage of development is so low: Purple/Red 4) Because they are deluded ideologues thanks to Islam. These are not assumptions. Theses are facts with overwhelming historical evidence. Meanwhile you have a fantasy of peaceful Palestinians. Because the liberal minds projects itself onto them.

They will continue to be desperate after they get their state. Because their state will be delusional, corrupt, weak, and vindictive. You are assuming they will stop being suicidal. You are assuming that sitting in your armchair. But Israeli leadership will be demonized for the rest of history if they test that assumption and it proves false. Israeli leadership gave back Gaze to Hamas, and the result was Oct 7th. Once bitten, twice shy. That is the whole Zionist motto. Their whole point is that they will not allow themselves to be screwed over again, like in WW2, by being too liberal.

@Rafael Thundercat Good, good. You're starting to get it.

Red Pill is too stupid to read books about it. Hehe.

Bad example by Shapiro, since TYT and Hasan pay quite a bit of taxes relative to a an average American.

Are you kidding? They were stupid enough to do Oct 7th. It is like you ignore Oct 7th ever happened.