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You are being too flippant about how much culture and survival forces shape people's understanding of Reality. If you lived in the Middle East 1500 years ago, you would in for a rude awakening indeed. These people were hardly more developed than cavemen. And you want them to give you some kind of pure spiritual textbook that can compete with today's work? The only reason anyone knows about Ramana is because of internet and such. Nobody would know him 1500 years ago. Mohammad is known because he started a kingdom through conquest. That is how you got known back them. Not for being a hippie.
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Yes! Yes! Of course. Ambition is rare. Most people have none and live like conformist zombies. However, there is a next-level mindfuck here for you. It comes when you eventually realize that these mediocre people were right. Ambition is an illusion. All your striving, and in the end you will never achieve more than just sitting and being, which you could have done from day one. Ambition is awesome, but also a giant illusion at the end of road. Look at Elon Musk. He his horny to go to Mars. But eventually he will discover it is a completely hollow goal. There is nothing to do on Mars once you are there. It is no better than scrolling through TikTok. Except TiKTok doesn't have you working yourself to death for an empty goal.
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Of course
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No more radical than your morning coffee existing.
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It is enviable until one understands the costs. Then, no thank you.
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Your mind will not remember things it does not need. Be careful trying to memorize a bunch of trival knowledge. Your mind is designed to remember what is practical to it.
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Leo Gura replied to Magnanimous's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
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Those people don't do actual science. You have to be careful. There are many people who associate themselves with science but don't do one bit of it. Like Sam Harris. He does not do science. The real scientists are nameless and faceless slaves deep in the coal mines. The faces you know are mostly bullshitters and talkers -- exactly the extrovert types who love to take credit for everything.
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I dispute this. You are cherrypicking heavily. Calling Huberman a scientist is a stretch. He is a celebrity influencer. STEM guys struggle to get laid, struggle with socializing -- because they are borderline autistic. Of course some are sociable, like Richard Feynman. Hard science and socializing don't mix.
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Of course. So what? Your spatial coordinates also limit what is possible to happen. If you were at spatial coordinate (5,343,480,034,802, 3,303,085,112,831, 537,983,132,445,830) you might see a unicorn. But since you aren't you won't.
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Bingo!
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BTW, John used a lot of alcohol to game back when he was in Vegas, so that is a major reason I never respected his game. I respect Owen a lot for promoting sober game. Getting drunk is not game, any fool can do that. The hardest part of game is getting the state and verbals while stone cold sober from a day of logical work. That takes serious skill. You will notice that extroverts and naturals don't work logical jobs, they work highly social jobs like sales. I'd like to see an extrovert do 8hrs of science before going out to game. See how that goes.
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A 20th century dude.
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It is silly to expect a guy from 600 AD Arabia to have your sensibilities. He was a dude of his time and place who understood God in some degree, not as well as someone today does. If you can't understand that, well... carry on. Mohammad was not strictly speaking Awake. He was channeling. If you expect the Quran to describe God as precisely as I do, you are kidding yourself. I have the benefit of 1500 years of intellectual evolution. It is lucky they knew God at all back then.
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There is Consciousness, but there is no self. Without a self you would just be Consciousness. As a self you imagine that Consciousness belongs to you, is something you have which you can lose. Rather it is Consciousness that will lose you. Without a self Consciousness is no longer yours, it just is.
