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  2. Just for some light-hearted fun, this guy here really knows how to make fun of the situation.
  3. I honestly don't think he's even so-called enlightened or awakened. Weird thing to say for most people, I know. If you ask me, I'll just answer with 'magic' or 'attention.' He's gone down a false pursuit, conflating experiences and states (almost always externally and chemically produced) with 'consciousness.' I don't think people grasp the implication of his insistence on, and inability to produce, the promised video. That case showcases a bit of the inherent assumptions behind such a path. Anyone can talk. Talking is cheap. God, Consciousness, Quantum Uncertainty, perception, skandhas, kundalini, chakras, and so on. Thread those into a convincing worldview that people like and feel validated by, and people won't know how to tell a faker from a real source. (Now, imagine that you did this unconsciously.)
  4. I'm going to balance out Zurew's effort posts by saying Elliott is a troll, Aurum is a reducing/fake-closure enthusiast, Sugarcoat is right, and Human Mint thinks Trump has never admitted he has been wrong even though he has.

  5. Finished the LP course

    Jannes replied to Jannes's topic in Self-Actualization Journals

    The moment felt like this He asked me a question which opened me up emotionally to some of the things I value the most Then he crashed into me and opened up full force about this thing, placing some emotional weight into an emotional space of mine which is important/ sacred kind of It reads weird, like how can I feel bad about someone opening up and getting into tears but I cant help but feel used. Maybe its lack of experience or unwillingness to open up on my end or maybe I read it perfectly.
  6. You need a good 3x in a row for a situation like this, dont hold a drop back 😂
  8. My experience suggests otherwise. I've seen situations where people behave in not very nice ways because they do not think morality exists.
  9. At death you may vanish without a trace into non-existence. But the seed of awareness (offspring) that was left, will continue on. What ye say?

  10. Formed Frontal Lobe Thoughts

    soos_mite_ah replied to soos_mite_ah's topic in Self-Actualization Journals

    The Big 250 I went to Washington D.C. to see what the 250th Independence Day was going to be like. I was a bit wishy washy on my decision to go but I went ahead and decided since I had a friend who was going to be in the area. I flew in on the evening of July 3rd and then flew out early in the morning in July 5th. During the day, I did go near the National Mall. It was completely blocked off for Trump's fair. I didn't bother to go in because I didn't want to support that man and I heard it was a shit show from the quality of the vendors, the stage accident that almost killed the performers, and the reflection pond that turned green with algae because Trump painted the bottom dark blue, causing the water to heat up and become a breeding ground for the swamp. I did see the crowds around the area. It was very white with a chunk of people that looked like they were from Duck Dynasty. There were also some Christian extremists around the crowd that were yelling out "JESUS DIED FOR YOUR SINS REPENT!" on top of their lungs with a group of people who were trying to convert people into Christianity. There were also a handful of Chinese and Indian tourists that were there just taking everything in. I also saw a few military grade vehicles and a few people who work for the National Guard on duty as security there. And all of this was under 100 degree weather with the sun beating down. I also ran into huge crowds at the subway stations. The lines were huge. The crowd made me feel like I was in a pack of sardines, and most of the people were just confused with the public transport. I know there wasn't as much of a crowd in the mall itself according to reports and because a ton of people in D.C. were just boycotting the event all together. I avoided the crowds and I went to the National Museum of the American Indian and afterwards I went to the National Holocaust Memorial. Of course the Trumpies wouldn't be at the museum lol. But I had a good experience in both of these places. It just felt right to go there to pay my respects for Independence day and also keep in mind what is going on in the world from people getting kidnapped by ICE gestapo style and with what's happening in Palestine. I'm not a huge museum person but I do think that they are good places to go in order to reflect on various topics. I found myself thinking of course about things like genocide and state building, the way that it affects people immediate to that experience, and the ways that people live on afterwards. In this country, we had mass death in the way that we treated the Native Americans as well as through the Atlantic Slave Trade. Then there are the multiple genocides of the 20th century from the Holocaust, the Armenian Genocide, the Cambodian Genocide, the Congolese Genocide, the Bengali Genocide, the Rwandan Genocide, and the Bosnian Genocide. And of course, we have the present day conflicts in Palestine, Sudan, the Congo, and Armenia. But amongst that, I also saw evidence of people living their regular lives along side these big historical events and doing regular human things like working, living amongst each other, making art, and telling their stories. I find that regular live proceeding while shit is constantly hitting the fan is both grounding and disorienting at the same time. It can be disorienting to feel like you have to carry on as normal and not have the space to feel when things are going on. It's like you're being gaslit. At the same time, it's grounding in the sense that there is some sense of normalcy you can hold on to in order to regulate your emotions and not just succumb to what's going on and bed rot. I really liked the Native American museaum and how it showed the ways that Native Americans contributed to the military, the way that lived their lives, the way that the continue their practices, the way that they continue making art in various genres, and the ways that their vocabulary, customs, and culture still show up and are embedded in day to day life. I think that the 250th annivesary is happening at a very disorienting time. On another hand, you have ICE terrorizing people and the U.S. causing chaos internationally whether it be Cuba, Venezuela, Iran etc. You have the government mistreating people socially, economically, and politically and creating a cluster fuck. At the same time, on the other hand, you have the World Cup being hosted here, you have a bunch of tourists enjoying American culture outside of the plethora of issues this country has, and you do have some semblance of people coming together. And then finally, on the other hand, you have people trying to keep their head above water and live their mundane day to day lives amongst the chaos and amongst the excitement. While I don't feel patriotic because of the festivities in the National Mall, I enjoy going to the museums whenever I'm at D.C. because it makes me feel patriotic knowing that a small amount of my tax dollars goes to things like the Smithsonian. I like on how there are so many free things to do in this city and I thought going to these museums was the best way for me to celebrate my patriotism because of the ways that they approach complex topics, the way that they show a variety of perspectives and stories from different communities, the way that those perspectives overlap and contribute to the overall culture, and the way that all of those things apply to what we are going through as a country right now. Later that day, I went down to the National Harbor to meet up with my friend, her boyfriend, and later her boyfriend's brother so that we can see the fireworks but not deal with the crowds. The scheduling for the fireworks got delayed like 3 times. Trump did a long ass speech around 11 pm when everyone was tired and over it. It was raining at random times throughout the evening, and at times it was raining pretty hard. But instead of doing the fireworks at 11 when it wasn't raining during Trump's speech, the fireworks started when it started raining hard. As a result, the fireworks would get extinguished right when they would go off so it kind of looked like an explotion with a ton of smoke with a little bit of glitter thrown in there. The fireworks were also mainly red and orange thus adding to the explotion/ end of the world vibe. It was giving nuclear mushroom from where we were standing. Apparently on TV, it looked good, but in person, it was train wreck. Eventually, I managed to get back to my hotel at around 1:30 am. We weren't planning on being out that late. Usually the fireworks would happen arount 9, right after sunset, but Trump wanted to be different so that he can have his big speech and moment. I would have gone back earlier but the only reason I gave this event any grace was because it was the big 250. I felt bad because my friend had to be up early the next morning for work. I felt bad for the little kids there who were also antsy about waiting so long. I also had to be up early to go to the airport to fly back to Dallas. I saw a lot of traffic as I was driving back but thankfully, I had less traffic in the direction I was going. There were a bunch of cars parked along the highway to get a glimpse of the show. It was chaotic. My flight was at 8 am meaning I needed to be at the airport at 5 am. I tried to sleep from 2 am to 3 am so that I could wake up, pack, and take a shower. But I ended up sleeping from 2 am to 5:42 am. I woke up in a panic. I didn't brush my teeth or wash my face. I put on my pair of pants, threw everything in my suitcase, rushed out the door, and checked out of the hotel by 5:50. I had half of a left over turkey sandwich that I ate as I waited on my uber. I ubered to the airport and the only thing I was thinking was how badly Trump fucked up my 4th of July and how I'm not going to let this man cause me to miss my flight. This whole trip from the flight, to the hotel, to the food (D.C. in general has an expensive food scene) and how the uber has been expensive. I wasn't about to add to the cost by missing my flight. Thankfully, I didn't encounter any traffic going to the airport and I didn't have much of a line in TSA so I managed to get to the gate with about 30 minutes to spare before boarding began at 7:15. During that time, I went to the bathroom, brushed my teeth, washed my face, did my makeup, and put on deoderant so I would feel like an actual person. Then, I went to one of the airport stores and got myself some tea and some yogurt so that I has something in my system. I got to the plane and fell asleep soon after. Apparently my flight also got delayed because of some issues with the engine. I remember overhearing it vaguely as I was mostly asleep. It got delayed by an hour so instead of landing at 10:30 in Dallas, I got there at 11:30. I woke up after a couple hours and I was sitting next to a lady and we talked about a number of things ranging from her experience working for an airline years ago, her family, caring for her aging relatives, and her experience at the National Mall the night before. The lady said that there was about 150,000 people there and that they had to evacuate the area because of the lightening and the storms. The "evacuation" in question was everyone rushing out and either going to the train station or to any other building near by. Then, every time it would stop raining, people would try to go back to the mall again by rushing through security. It's not like they had wristbands or anything so the crowd had to go through security multiple times. She mentioned that she was lowkey scared on how disorganized and mishandled this event was and how people were rushing back and forth because it looked like it could go crazy and start a riot where people would get trampled. She also told me that it took her until 3 am to get back to her hotel because of how packed the trains were and how she didn't even sleep at night so that she wouldn't miss our flight. Let's just say that I'm glad I wasn't at the National Mall during this time given the story I got from her. Anyways, the big 250 felt like a mess but I'm glad that I experienced it and I think I have a couple of interesting stories to tell when I'm 76 during the 300th Independence Day. Hopefullly it will better and I do wonder where we will be at as a country by then, for better and for worse.
  11. The narcissism critique, the "he is narcissistic" critique, the "lack of integrity" critique, and the "you shouldn't bring attention to the idea or declare yourself to be more awake than every other being in the universe" critique do not rely on the premise that Leo is not the most awake being in the universe. You can go back and read my previous posts. I provided numerous links throughout this thread documenting the behavior I consider problematic. Feel free to actually go through those examples, respond to them individually and/or comprehensively, and provide an explanation that makes them no longer problematic while still preserving your view that Leo has integrity and that his commitment to teaching is more important than preserving his special image. You can criticize the morals, judgment, rhetoric, or behavior of a spiritual teacher without assuming that their spiritual realization is false. These are separate questions.(unless you want to make a weird move, where you want to collapse that seperation, and where you want to imply that every instance of bad behavior was necessary (that it was the optimal strategy for accomplishing Leo's teaching goals and that only Leo possesses the special knowledge required to understand why behaving that way was both necessary and beneficial). Lets suppose, for the sake of argument, that Leo actually is the most awake being in the universe. Lets also suppose that he genuinely possesses special abilities that allow him to know (with absolute certainty) the level of awakening of every conscious being in existence. Even if I grant all of that, the criticism still stands: You can be the most awake being in the universe and still choose not to repeatedly create threads declaring that you are the most awake being in the universe while explicitly undermining everyone else's cognition. If the stated purpose of this work is helping people awaken, making them more sovereign, encouraging independent realization, and emphasizing that people should "do the work," then repeatedly redirecting attention toward yourself and your own exceptional status is obviously counterproductive. A Tier 2 guy who is the most awake being in the universe and can telepathically (with certainty) perfectly read everyone's level of awakening somehow failed to recognize how ineffective his "I'm the most awake being in the universe for the 1000th time, and everyone else is a fucking spiritual rat and should be beaten with a crowbar" rhetoric is (even though multiple people have given him very clear negative feedback about it) - Especially, again, if his main goal is to teach us, keep us receptive, help us awaken, and make us more sovereign. If his primary objective is teaching, , helping people awaken, and increasing their sovereignty, then it is very weird why he continued using rhetoric that many of us repeatedly clarified was producing a negative effect. Again, notice that this criticism does not depend on the claim that he is not the most awake being in the universe. His rhetoric is problematic (regardless whether he is the most awake or not) : because of how it comes across; because Leo would never grant comparable claims if they would came from someone else; because many members of his own audience have repeatedly made it clear that this rhetoric makes them significantly less receptive; and because it predictably creates cult dynamics that undermine the very goals he claims to value (especially again if you combine that specialty claim with undermining the cognition of disagreers). More specifically: It undermines people's sovereignty. It encourages exceptional trust in Leo's authority. It encourages people to become increasingly dependent on him while simultaneously distrusting every other spiritual teacher, because all of them supposedly belong to the category of "they don't know what they're talking about." It also encourages people to distrust their own judgment and discernment (If the claim is that every single advanced spiritual teacher in history failed to reach Leo's level of realization, and if no one else truly understands consciousness, then why would anyone on this forum ever trust their own discernment?) And no, the reply that "every other spiritual community has the exact same problems" does not work - because not every other spiritual community has a leader who claims to be more awake than everyone else in the universe , not every spiritual leader undermines the cognition of every single student every singe time when there is a disagreement ,not every spiritual community is set up in a way where your progress can only be evaluated by the leader (again, the "you can validate everything for yourself" doesnt work in practice, because if you do the work and disagree on things, then that can only mean that you havent done enough work and there is no possible scenario under which you can do enough work and disagree with Leo on spirituality - the "did enough" standard can only be called by Leo and there isn't any independent standard from Leo's judgement. ). Now, let's temporarily stop assuming those two premises: (That Leo is the most awake being in the universe and that Leo can flawlessly determine everyone else's level of awakening.) And lets challenge the implication that the reasonable default position is simply to grant those premises until someone can disprove them with absolute certainty. Lets be clear and honest here - Neither you nor Leo would ever consistently apply that standard. Imagine someone else making exactly the same argument to you.: Imagine a scenario where a teacher behaved in ways you considered manipulative or morally questionable. And then one of the teacher's follower told you: "The reasonable thing is to simply assume this behavior is necessary because this person is the most spiritually advanced being in existence. He understands the effects of his rhetoric better than anyone else, so you should trust the process, regardless of how much negative feedback his students express." In what world would you ever accept an implication or response like that? Now, If your response is something like "Of course I would grant that someone other than Leo could be the most awake being in the universe." Okay. then let's check how serious you are about that. Grant that special priviledge to me (After all, you cannot be absolutely certain that I am not the most awake being in the universe, right? - And thats the standard you are asking everyone else to adopt) So, from this point forward, assume that I am more knowledgeable than you: Assume I am the ultimate authority on epistemology. Assume that whenever we disagree (about spirituality, definitions of cults) that I am correct by default and that everyone ought to use the definition of cult that I provided Do not rely on the possibility that I might be mistaken (because again, the reasonable move is to grant those things to me, because if you dont then you are closed-minded or not ready for this advanced work). And from now on, you need to accept all of my rhetoric and behavior because you don't yet understand how this is going to be beneficial for you and everyone else. You can validate everything that I say, but you need to keep in mind that, as long as we disagree about anything I care about, that that will automatically mean that you are wrong and that you need to do more work. This is because sufficient validation is analytically defined as you agreeing with me on all the things I care about, and there is no standard outside of me that can tell you when you have done enough and proper work. (So, let me take on that role and be an absolute authority on what "enough work" and "enough validation" means - actually let me contradict myself since this work is paradoxical and say that there is a standard that is technically outside of me - this is the standard: Keep doing the work until the point where you agree with me perfectly on everything I care about. Until then, any disagreement simply indicates that you have more work to do) if you acknowledge that all of that shit is completely unreasonable and you can entertain for a moment that Leo is not necessarily that special or infallible as he trie to pretend to be - then we can begin discussing Leo's epistemology. Explain: Why is there no video demonstrating the alien transformation that Leo repeatedly claimed he both could and would perform on camera? (Also - Why, when confronted about failing to deliver on that prediction, was his response dismissive rather than reflective ( where he acknowledge that he was wrong or at the very least acknowledge that he failed to deliver on that claim)? Why has there never been any healing miracle done by Leo ? How do you explain the repeated situations in which Leo denies making statements that he demonstrably made, even after evidence is presented? (One example that illustrates [this was one of my interaction with him] , you can search for my post related to this, its in this thread and I provided relevant links there) This was the situation: Leo said : "I never claimed that I can't be wrong." I then presented him with a post where he wrote: "I can be full of shit, but not on this." His response then shifted from: "I never claimed X." to "Just because I claimed X doesn't mean X is true." (Those are entirely different propositions - The first concerns whether the claim was ever made and the second concerns whether the content of the claim was correct) This is a sneaky and spineless shift in the discussion so that he doesnt need to take responsibility when he is cornered. He then ended with one of the most manipulative moves, when he uttered (paraphrased): "I cannot ultimately be wrong because I once uttered the claim that self-deception is endless. Therefore, if I turn out to be wrong about something, that will just confirm my broader claim that self-deception is endless." - Given this logic, you can't be held accountable for any false or incorrect claim, because you can always pivot back to, "But I already told you that self-deception is endless."

  12. Aghori taking 5 MEO

    Breakingthewall replied to MaDoubt's topic in Psychedelics

    Because just meditating you wont reach total openess unless you are Ramakrishna I have done 5meo like 70 times before i can manage it and understand what is the idea, what i want with 5meo. I also was meditating 2 or 3 h by day, that were basically a hell until thanks to 5 meo started to be meditation Now for me 5meo is useless, I don't like anymore, I have done hundreds of times.now feels like It's just dissolution, and? And it has like false taste. But in some point was necessary

  13. Finished the LP course

    Jannes replied to Jannes's topic in Self-Actualization Journals

    It kind of makes sense to me that someone would feel emotionally overwhelmed by him. There is an interesting balance, he kind of needed to fight for everything, all the love and got pretty confident in doing so but lacking this natural inner peace and he seems to look for people who have that and are willing to keep up with him because he has survival value.

  14. Finished the LP course

    Jannes replied to Jannes's topic in Self-Actualization Journals

    So my friend told me his gf broke up with him. He wanted to get more close in the relationship but it seemed like to much for her. But she was also never in a real close relationship. I thought he was about to confront me or something but nothing of that sort. Later we ate at the cafeteria, he asked me what my top3 situations were, where I felt most empowered. After I shared some thoughts I asked about his and he told me about the birth of his brother, sister and wish to become a teacher with tears in his eyes. It came out of nowhere. And it didnt really feel natural. I felt pretty overwhelmed and started knitting after a while. Not to long after we drove back.
  15. That is impossibly hard to sustain. You are not going to eat raw meat for years on end. That is not even safe. Cooked meat works well enough anyways.

  16. Aghori taking 5 MEO

    Leo Gura replied to MaDoubt's topic in Psychedelics

    That is a childish way to view psychedelics. Psychedelics can be that way, but aren't always that way. What gets marketed is the best case scenarios. Not the average experience. No. It doesn't require nearly as much skill or time. 100 trips is still far faster and easier than meditation. You could do 100 trips in 2 years. 2 years of mediation will get you nowhere. 5-MeO is not a free lunch, but it is a cheaper lunch than anything else. Because no amount of meditation will ever make you as conscious of God as 5-MeO will. (for most people) 5-MeO is not the same as meditation. They are qualitatively different things that lead to different places. You should be doing both.
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  18. Aghori taking 5 MEO

    Jodistrict replied to MaDoubt's topic in Psychedelics

    But it is marketed as “The God Molecule” with “Instant Ego Death” , Quantum Healing, and so forth by its promotors. But now it seems to require the same skills and lengthy amounts of time as meditation. So there isn’t a free lunch after all? So why not just meditate and avoid the risk of brain injury? Meditation has been around for thousands of years and there is solid scientific evidence to support it.
  19. Yeah let's make first million. I don't know how much time will this take but I am locked in. Current net worth: 0$ Romantic status: Dating J. Health: Schizoaffective disorder Skills: Robotics technician and CNC machines programming
  20. @Juan I dont think hoffman wants the answer he wants to do the math without a psychedelic. He said there is no answer he already knows what God is intellectually. Hoffman is trying to hack the headset with math. He would be a hacker in the eyes of God. He a science yogi
  21. He gets paid to bring other people down. This is textbook. Classic 101 PSYOP on another person. I found it remarkable couple years back how easily swayed people supposedly so interested in science were regarding. I called him out on it at the time, he then got into a comment war with me at the time. He lost. It was so hilarious, I couldn't believe how further immature he was. This is the problem when you're not simultaneously advancing your emotional intelligence with and in unity with your broader cognitive apparatus. Our status quo on emotional intelligence is still so incredibly underdeveloped, my goal within the next few months to generate at least a couple of new models that are hopefully useful concerning. The whole idea of retreating back in time, mapping emotions, learning how to process them in real time, while also temporally, at the same time as reorganising an emotion with wisdom coupled, combined with developing the memory as a symbolic interface to serve as a reminder and motivational anchor on how to navigate future situations is so much more advanced than doing a performative intellectual rant on a modern day intellectual. Maps and models to come, most of the hours are spent in the phenomenology. But yeah, its a paid defamation ATM.

  22. Journal of an ISTJ

    Zeroguy replied to Zeroguy's topic in Self-Actualization Journals

    When you realize that you are in cult, run and state your reasons in a letter. English is not my native language so I can't write down all of my reasons and good thing is that I didn't make any social circle here so nothing is pulling me here. I will make another Journal where I will describe my journey to become rich.

  23. What is some music you like?

    Yimpa replied to itsadistraction's topic in Off-Topic: Pop-Culture, Entertainment, Fun

  24. When you reach the void of yourself you will find you are there but you cant think hear feel touch smell all you can do is express how you feel about yourself. You will be there as it and you will have awareness. The awareness dosent go away in deep sleep you are just not moving it. You can only not move it for a little while and you wake up and start dreaming again. Imagine you wake up in nothingness and you can do anything but you are there. You can still see and you will see yourself. You can never look away from yourself unless you are looking at the dream, and even the dream is a metaphysical representaion of this nothing. Close your eyes you see yourself and you know youve been there the entire time the dream has been happening. When you go into deep sleep its just you looking at yourself unaware. You can fear it because you will be aware! Now when you go to sleep you are unaware of it you are calling it sleeping and pretending to not exist. God cannot pretend to not exist. You will still desire and want and need things. Like a black hole ate a galaxy and there was no more information to suck up but its still hungry for matter. It just starts sucking in an empty vaccum. Receiving no information but wanting it and desiring information. Any information even the bad stuff it will take. If a person is anything its like an empty hole.
  25. @Leo Gura have you tried raw carnivore? Or at least incorporating more raw meat, raw milk, raw butter, etc.? I’ve read some anecdotes on twitter about people who apparently solved this autoimmune disease using raw animal foods. Though I’m not sure how reliable those anecdotes are, it could be worth a try.

  26. FIFA World Cup 2026 thread

    Someone here replied to Someone here's topic in Off-Topic: Pop-Culture, Entertainment, Fun

    This World Cup’s theme is no game is easy and anything could happen but I expect yet another difficult win for Argentina .

  27. FIFA World Cup 2026 thread

    integration journey replied to Someone here's topic in Off-Topic: Pop-Culture, Entertainment, Fun

    I’m hoping Egypt wins tomorrow since Argentina barely won against Capo verde
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