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Sugarcoat replied to VeganAwake's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Ok seems you're describing enlightenment, non duality, which you usually do. I can't speak for that beyond what makes sense to me. But there can be a profound, and permanent transition from mind-self to a more empty self, occurring in a split second. I say "more empty" because mind activity within it can still illuminate self, so it's not so clearly empty, but I cant emphasize enough how it's a radically different state in comparison to prior that transition. -
I want to share something that is happening to me as I continue my human life. I've reached enlightenment and the implications for myself have been immense. I live every second as it was the first and the last. VERY intensely. yet from a calm ever present and solid consciousness. I'm aware of what awareness is. at all fucking times. the lived experience of recognizing the unity throughout all the elements of experience, while still having some inertia from my human habits, is something that for myself turned out to be an extremeley isolating situation. i have to tone myself down in every fucking conversation because the receiver is so caught up in duality that my ideas don't even get past the front door right now i'm so fucking angry and behind the anger there is sadness sadness of recognizing things as they actually are and looking at everyone make the most stupid mistakes due to the lack of the understanding that we are one single reality being expresssed thrugh multiple locus, throughout the entire universe the sadness comes from not being able to communicate that the curiosity of trying to understand reality is what led me to this place. not leo, not rupert spira, not something somebody said. I don't think this (me being angry and sad) is gonna be a permanent situation. since i can also see that the pain comes from wanting other people and beings to know that we are all one, which has little to do with my own process of realization. and i know my way out of this state. but it feels right to share this. is like waking up from a dream, just to come back to the dreamed character, that is now fully aware at all times that all of the dream, and trying to tell somebody else in the dream that "appears" to be awake but isnt. fuck, fuck fuck !!!!!!!!!!!! what i think i need: compassion and deeper understanding into how FORM is being imagined by myself. I'm a very DIY human, therefore, this entire thing falls directly into the category of things that have nothing (or very little) to do with my doing. The only thing i think i can do for others is point. pointers pointers pointers. and even then, pointers sometimes dont work. im suspicious about my previous mental habits. the human me has been quite neurotic and mental throughout my life, and it's got some inertia to it. What would anyone reccomend me doing for dealing with my new level of understanding? I want to make peace with the situation we are finding ourselves in as a species, but there's something in between. and from inside i can't see clearly what it is yet. Thanks for reading.
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Obi-Wan Kenobi is a great spin-off. George Lucas loves it.
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Why avoid outright insults in the Orthodox Jewish Conformity post and then call their children "brainwashed little rats" at the end? The more ideological people are, the more dangerous it is to insult them so strongly. I would change that wording just to be safe
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I'm flattered you see me as creative with my arguments
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Could be
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You seem to be creating a strawman about what strawmanning is. People who strawman don't usually consciously do it. It's usually an ad hoc emotional reaction to uncomfortable or challenging information... try to put the opposing argument in the "I don't need to listen to this" box.
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It's natural but mediocre.
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What could I say to falsify this? I ask because I can definelty agree with all of these explanations (especially the special snowflake point, the most common one used on me, which I think can be valid but is poor argumentation). But the model of behaviour here seems to say "anyone who disagrees, is further evidence for my theory". I get sketchy when I model is self sealing like this. How do you see a way out to an alternative that the model doesn't fit?
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I have tended to push back on that one by saying something similar... "Imagine a male version of me, who is just as interested in consciousness work... and equally nerdy about these topics. Then ask yourself: Does that man experience attractions in a fundamentally different way from the average man?" And of course, the answer is "no". And I've often used a similar example of... "Imagine there's a woman who's a very popular female dating expert who has a TON of influence over young women. And she's very un-attractive and un-appealing to most men... and clearly quite toxic. But imagine that she has all the receipts. And she's got tons of men chasing after her and wanting to lock her down. And she's getting and turning down a bunch of marriage proposals from very insecure men. And now, she's peddling her "tips and tricks" to young women that will repel like 70% of men... which includes the best and most compatible men. Then, part of her system says, "Never listen to a man about what he wants. You already know him better than he knows himself." And this creates a paradigm lock for any woman who listens to her, as no conflicting information can be let in from a man. And then, she's so popular that like 30% of women start drinking her Koolaid... and start doing really un-attractive things. But it's audacious. So, the women who use these tactics do indeed get more men falling all over themselves. Then, when a man says... actually those things are just repellant. Try a different strategy. They're like, "What do you know? You're just a man!" or "Well, you're a special exception because you're an ultra-conscious man." or some other tactics borne from a desire to maintain this "expert's" POV. Then, her model is a popular business model. And the majority of female dating coaches start working from her same script and frameworks. Then, there's a "female loneliness crisis" because most of the men (the ones who are more discerning) got disgusted by these easy-to-spot behaviors... and avoided any woman who uses these tactics."
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Carl-Richard replied to Monster Energy's topic in Society, Politics, Government, Environment, Current Events
You aren't actually saying this literally in your post. You have to learn to write more precisely. A drug addict's life is about getting drugs. If they don't have it, their life is in the pursuit of it. That you can engage in porn more often makes it somehow worse is not really a good measurement. Suddenly the hyperbole inflated if not completely reverted. -
The Bugs of America
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You're right. When someone disagrees with my perspectives on women I actually get an alert on my phone that says "STRAWMAN TIME!", with a little strawman emoji "👨🌾". Then I try and concoct the most deadly strawman I can possibly think of, and post a reply
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There is nothing under control anyway. Self-improvement is a joke. It’s just your body talking and inventing more fantasies. The real miracle is having a stable illusion that you can believe in, even momentarily. Why I am here, well, why am I alive is the same question basically.
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That´s what they call "naturals"
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I had forgotten to add this one to the list. But strawmanning is also another tactic to quell cognitive dissonance by reframing the opposing perspective to one that's not as strong... and thus easier to discredit and disregard. So, my perspective is, "There are many men who hold onto comforting frameworks about women. And when they hear perspectives that might cause doubt in those comforting perspectives, they will use tactics to quell their cognitive dissonance in order to maintain their attachment to those ideas." And you used the tactic of strawmannirg to reframe my perspective as, "Anyone who disagrees with me is wrong." So, you misrepresent my perspective and build a straw man of it. And then you smack down the straw man of my perspective in order to preserve your paradigms about women, attraction, and relationships.
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Compulsion
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I’ve never understood this. Somehow, the higher you ascend in consciousness, the less clear the answer gets.
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Monster Energy replied to Monster Energy's topic in Society, Politics, Government, Environment, Current Events
I’m not saying porn is more physically dangerous than drugs. I’m saying it can be harder to escape because it’s always there. You can’t exactly remove sex from your life and call it a day. It’s everywhere, and that makes the battle a little more complicated. Obviously, it depends on the person and the drug. But just because porn won’t kill you the way certain drugs can doesn’t mean breaking the addiction is a walk in the park. -
Monster Energy replied to Monster Energy's topic in Society, Politics, Government, Environment, Current Events
Thank you! By the way, I really love your posts. You seem very conscious and self-aware in the way you write. We need more people like you. You go really deep in your posts, which makes them genuinely insightful and enlightening. -
You're helping me draw connections to existing philosophies, cool. You seem to have rich mind I've thought of it in terms of listening to music for the boost, hence the repetition until the boost dies out....seems some listen more from a place of musical interest.
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Monster Energy replied to Monster Energy's topic in Society, Politics, Government, Environment, Current Events
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Monster Energy replied to Monster Energy's topic in Society, Politics, Government, Environment, Current Events
Yeah, I get it. You found your wake-up call. Mine just looked different. And no, I’m not getting into pickup. I’m not interested in replacing one addiction with another and calling it self-improvement. If I need women, porn, weed, or anything else just to make life feel interesting, then I’m still letting something else control me. And no, my parents aren’t funding my lifestyle. I just got tired of wasting my time and pretending I was fine with it. Eventually you either take control of your life, or you keep finding excuses for why you haven’t. -
That is true. But I’m trying new interaction styles with strangers too. Since I won’t be seeing them again anyway.
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I love the Star Wars universe but I lost interest in the movies and spin-offs, except for The Mandalorian, which is genuinely pretty great and a lot of fun.
