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LastThursday replied to Natasha Tori Maru's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
I enjoyed the video, interesting to get a history of Mishlove. I've watched a lot of New Thinking Allowed. The one property of consciousness is that it's the thing itself, i.e. it has a kind of recursion built into it. Recursion can lead to a fractal or holographic structure, whereby the thing is contained inside itself. With a fractal is self-similar structure, with a hologram it's the entirety contained withing itself - although the holographic principle gets abused, because it's only ever the entirety from a particular perspective. It's not then a difficult leap to think that consciousness expresses a brain, which contains consciousness and so on. A brain then is just a recursive structure in consciousness. Consciousness is never lost however, even with a blow to the head, because the person whose head it is, doesn't experience a loss of consciousness, but a discontinuity. And the person watching the blow don't experience a loss of consciousness either, just the person collapsing, i.e. consciousness is not "aliveness". -
@Natasha Tori Maru Same here, very excited! From what I can gather, he is trying to make the reader get in touch with the beauty and awe of reality, which he has said was a difficult task. I have only had those kinds of experiences through psychedelics and deep self-inquiry so far. Looking forward to what he has. And 100%, his health issue means this might be his last book.
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His body being book is so underrated, it ties in very well with the art of mastery.
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Get the book "The Book Of Not Knowing", that should get you started. It's a deep philosophical book about questioning everything you normally assume is true, including your identity, thoughts, beliefs, and perception of reality. It’s less about giving answers and more about teaching you how to directly investigate your own experience and think beyond automatic assumptions.
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@HMD I happen chanced upon a couple of Roberts YouTube interviews where he outlined what his new book touches on. Those little audio biscuits got me excited for it 😁 Ngl it breaks my heart to hear him speak about how much he has lost since that stroke that wiped away his life as he knew it. He seems to be mourning and continually coming to grips with limitations. He often speaks about how precious life is and how it can be ripped away in a moment.
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@oOoThere is literally a whole chapter that talks about Empathy in the Laws of Human Nature. And he has a complete book on Warfare and Strategy.
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@Natasha Tori Maru Agreed. The thing is, everyone is giving their opinions these days over social media and even in person, but Robert is not simply a normie blabbing by the seat of his pants, he's putting in the time and effort to read 100s of books, researching the topic at hand, and then picking the best ideas from all that. This elevates his perspective. Yes, most of his ideas are not aligned with the absolute truth, but at the survival level or at the relative level, they are quite valuable. I think even Leo has recommended the 48 Laws of Power somewhere, not sure about it though.
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Carl-Richard replied to Never_give_up's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
What does taking your life to try to advance in a next life signify? It's an earthworm digging itself into the ground, or a mosquito trying to suck the blood of reality. It's probably not meant to be taken literally, but the trend is that stuck patterns perpetuate themselves, and the way out is "through". If you decide your life is not worth living, that's a pattern you probably will have to work through in your next life, unless you work it out in this life. -
The Many Facets Of Awakening - List of Top 30 Enlightenment Insights What is samadhi? This is the realisation of the non-dual state What is the illusion of self? This is the story of who we claim to be, founded on nothing. What is I am? This is the atman, the potentially infinite nature of consciousness that unifies all individuals. Omnipresence This is the realisation of non-localisation of consciousness, the true self that is boundless and infinite. What is consciousness? This is the realisation of the light that pervades being, that illuminates the world. What is awakening? This is the realisation that everything is light, it is all made of light and you are the light. This is the moment when you see that the haze of the self drops away. That everyone is running on a programme and they are a machine. Oneness This is the indivisible nature of existence, that that one is infinitely expanding and unbounded by conceptual divisions. And you are that fragment of the whole. There is no difference between anything. What is truth? What is the absolute? This is again, the idea of oneness, it is the infinite nature of existence. Absolute infinitity This is the ever expanding idea of consciousness as the creator of reality. Realisation of absolute nothingness Nothing is everything. Why is there something rather than nothing? What is God? The actual encounter of God and what this word means. This also means becoming conscious of the notion of the Godhead You become conscious you are God Self equals other This is the unity of all people are aspects of the one. You are all alone, this is consequence of oneness What is love? Absolute and infinite love
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Havent heard of him but based on what otbers have written here, I'm very curious to start! What are your top recommendations?? (Please add a brief description of each so I can decipher which ones are the most relevant to me.)
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So recently I've got into a couple of debates about whether Michael Jackson abused kids or not. My position is that although I was a fan of his especially when i was a kid and still like his music, there is enough smoke to say that its very possible he abused children. I'm probably at 60-70%. My issue is that many people including those I debated would say they're 100% sure he didn't do anything. I'll lay out why I think its possible and why they're so sure below, but what scares me is how people can be so sure about someone they never met but feel love and admiration for to the point where they would dismiss all evidence against this person. To be clear its very possible he didn't do anything at all but the point the only people that know for sure are him, the kids and whoever saw them or whoever he told. This to me is a microcosm of how damaging behaviour can be accepted in society and can lead to generations of abuse, whether its on a small familial scale or a wide ranging dictator, cult leader scale. For me personally this is really to get everything out of my head lol as sometimes its good to lay things out to see gaps in your own thinking. I'm not going to go into crazy detail about all the allegations and the cases but I'm going to give what i would consider the strongest points of evidence for him abusing kids and then counter arguments i've heard to the claims, i will steelman where possible The fact that he admitted to sleeping in bed with many children including the ones that accused him of abuse. It was reported in the first accusation by Jordan Chandler that he would sleep in the same bed with him for up to 30 days in a row without the parents being present. This was a pattern that all his accusers have highlighted. Meaning there was access but not a complete smoking gun, very unusual behaviour though. Counter - He himself said that it was just a kind and loving thing to do and theres nothing wrong with it. His supporters say most of the time the kids slept in his bed and he slept on the floor, this was something he did with family members, adults, girls and boys and was an innocent thing. Jordan Chandler in his testimony to law enforcement, described michael jacksons genitals, including specific markings and discoloration. This was matched to pictures that the police took of him when they raided his property and the description was accurate. Jackson later paid off Chandler for $23 million to drop the case and sign an nda. The police still wanted to prosecute but the case collapsed because chandler refused to be a witness. Counter - Essentially they call Chandler a liar who was put up to it by his dad he was trying to get money and potentially a screen writing career out of Jackson. There doesnt seem to be a direct argument against how he knew the description but there some doubt about him not knowing if Jackson was circumcised or not. In the case that went to trial, the boy Gavin, said to law enforcement that there was a suitcase in Jacksons room that contained porn, including a couple books with young boys in the nude. When police raided his room they found the suitcase that had porn in it and it had 3 books that featured numerous images of young boys partially or fully nude, these books although legal, were apparently produced by 2 convicted pedophiles and have been recommended on NAMBLA which is a boy love group. Counter - Theres nothing wrong with owning porn and the books of the young boys are legal to own. There is an inscription in one by Jackson himself which talks about the joys of being a young child, his defence used this inscription in the trial to make the claim that there was nothing sexual about him looking at these books. Gavin could have found them in Jacksons room without necessarily been shown them by Jackson, that would explain how he knew where they were and the contents, (counter counter, they were reported to have been locked away). Jackson never really showed much sexual interest to women or even men. Lisa Marie his wife for 18 months, claimed that he was a virgin when they were together and he lost his virginity at 35 with her. There are several girls that claimed they had a relationship with him but none confirmed any sexual activity. Of course this doesnt automatically mean you like kids but it adds context. Counter - He was shy and childlike and not really interested in sex He has been accused multiple times by young boys and their families and has paid off a few of them, I believe there around 10 direct accusations. Counter - All of them are trying to get money or fame from Jackson and have taken advantage of his nature. Parents of the children are liars and ruthless. Now keep in mind, in theory hes there isnt enough to prosecute him and there isnt a smoking gun, however a lot of the behaviour and things that have happened are highly suspicious. My point, in the debates is that, if you heard of this behaviour from anyone else, you'd more than likely think something is going on, but in this situation you claim near 100% certainty that nothing is going on. Also 2 things can be true, the parents can be trying to get mone but he could also have abused the kids. The overall point i hear from supporters is that he didnt really have a childhood so he himself is child like which is why his behaviour seems odd. A more extreme take is that he pissed off jewish people so they have slaughtered him in the press and defamed his name. I sincerely hope he didnt do anything but it scares me how willing people are to just believe that he didnt despite all the smoke. I think cases like this are really about sitting in uncertainty to a degree unless undeniable evidence appears. I think for believers its hard and there is a tendency in our mind, to search for certainty. Whats scary though is that by dismissing all the potential victims in cases like this, you are essentially letting abuse happen. You can see how this plays out in families and even in politics as we're seeing with Trump in real time. Curious to get peoples thoughts, i know this is a bit of a controversial subject
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Thing is, 90% of the comments you see under that video are the people who watched the Shorts (like I did before I found the full episodes) and maybe a bit of the first episode. The Shorts are clipped to make the women look like absolute babies while the men look like superheroes. But if you watch the rest of the episodes (I've watched three now, I think I misspoke earlier), it becomes increasingly clear that the struggle is not that one-sided.
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Someone here replied to Never_give_up's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
The way I understand reincarnation is through the cycle of nature itself. Water evaporates upward..forms clouds..and then returns to the earth as rain. The rain seeps into the soil..and with nutrients from the earth and energy from sunlight..plants begin to grow .for example a corn. A chicken raised on a farm eats the corn. Then your father eats the chicken..and over time that energy and matter become part of his body then contributing to the creation of a drop of semen. He mates with your mother..the sperm meets the egg and you begin to form as a fetus. you are born as a baby and the process continues again in one form or another. In this sense reincarnation is simply the transformation of matter and life from one state to another. You are not separate from the universe ..you are part of it and in a way you are made from everything that came before you. So to me reincarnation is not necessarily something mystical or woo woo . It isthe natural process of existence continuously changing form. -
I had one of the most psychologically interesting dreams I’ve had in a long time. In the dream, my mom, my sister and I went to hell. Not in a dramatic fire-and-brimstone way, more like it was some kind of building or place you could visit. I am merely a child in this dream. At some point they left me alone on a different floor. I remember them reassuring me that it was safe and that they'd be back soon, but once I was alone, strange and frightening things slowly started happening around me. I called out for my sister and could hear her answering me from another floor, so I knew she was somewhere nearby, but she never came. I wasn’t completely abandoned, but I was still alone in dealing with what was happening around me. I became more and more afraid as weird eery phenomena were increasing in prevalence and eventually I started breaking things around me almost as a form of retaliation. Like I was trying to reclaim power or stop myself from feeling weak and trapped. Then the devil appeared. Oddly enough, he didn’t torture me or attack me. At first he reprimanded me for breaking things, but eventually he became almost like a companion. I remember cleaning up the mess while talking to him and how comfortable I felt in his presence. At one point I looked in a mirror and my entire body was pale white, almost powdery. There was also a strange white spot on my lip that briefly made me panic, as if it were some kind of disease or STD, but then calmed myself down and I convinced myself it was nothing. After that, the dream shifted into normal day-to-day life, except I was older and the devil followed me everywhere. He looked almost like a white shadow. He was constantly present beside me yet ackowledged by no one except me. Eventually I fell in love with a girl, and I realized that if I wanted a real relationship with her, I had to get rid of him. At first I tried fighting him whenever he appeared, especially when he tried to interfere while I was with her. Over time his interference became violent and we would end up in these anime-style battles where I was trying to protect my girl and myself from him. But over time I realized something strange: He couldn’t actually hurt me. His strikes would just phase through me. Over time, I also realized that he also couldn’t hurt her. In fact, the more I stopped reacting to him, stopped fearing him, stopped acknowledging him, the weaker he became. He would still lash out sometimes, but it stopped affecting me. I'd just ignore him and eventually, over time, he just faded into the background and disappeared. I woke up from that dream with a lot of clarity. I know exactly what this dream means and what it is pointing me towards. But I wonder, what is your interpretation of such a dream?
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You're right, you can't be bothered to be snarky, because we all know what happens in these situations 100% of the time. Men are stuck in the Stone Age while women are running around, building nuclear reactors and Dyson Spheres
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Someone here replied to Someone here's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
it can be tested directly. Right now existentially ..what is your true essence? What are you ? 1- the true essence is always the case because it is true . It isn’t true conditionally. 2- you can’t collapse something which doesn’t exist . If you collapse the subject-object duality you are saying this duality was real in the first place . -
Breakingthewall replied to Someone here's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
This is not your true essence, it's just an state where you split the reality between the witness and the forms that arises. That witness seems empty because it's a limited perspective that you are creating by the fact of meditating. Your true essence gets open when the separation between object and subject collapses and you release the control. The fact of being an observer is contraction, that's why it feels so tense -
Someone here replied to Someone here's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Thanks for your perspective. I honestly don’t know what you are describing or haven’t experienced it . I’m describing why is it insanely difficult to even meditate for 10 minutes for newbies .. it’s because when you stop engaging with thoughts and put them in front of you and watch them flow while you remain as a witness to them like sitting on the shore of a river and watching it flow without interference.. I say when you do that you experience your true essence as pure awareness. This awareness is empty in the sense that it is just pure being . It is not big or small . Not intelligent or dumb . Not happy or sad. Not a male or female . Not a person at all . Not even a self . Not even a thing . It can’t be said because if you say it you are back to thoughts . You put a barrier between your true essence and thoughts . What I mean by “inside my being “ is metaphorical. I don’t mean it literally inside my human body . I mean the core of what I am . Pure being . Pure witnessing. Pure watchfulness . Pure consciousness. And pure emptiness. And this emptiness feels boring and terrifying which is why you feel like going crazy if I locked you inside a room with nothing to do staring at 4 walls for 6 hours .im not denying your point but I’m just describing a different realization. -
1. They dominate Banks and Media and pull the strings, as we can see now how they have zero sanctions and are able to Murder little Children with Western Support 2. The Old Testament is a tribalistic book which gives them divine right to Genocide anybody that lives on their land including women, children and even animals. It allows for holding slaves, and even the Antizionist Jews in Israel believe that Palestinians are their slaves, stoning gays and adulterous people and many more barbarities. 3. They killed Jesus Christ, and prefered to continue the barbaric laws of the Old Testament instead of the new Law of Love and Compassion, that's why they were seen as Prophetkillers by Muslims and as God Killer by Christians. Allthough the Quran still venerates all the Jewish prophets. But the most important thing, is that Antisemitism is a European thing, it was the Europeans that prosecuted and massacred the Jews over 2 millenia and not the Palestinians. Israel should be built in Germany and not in Palestine. But as hypocritical as European Countries are, that didnt happen obviously
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Schahin replied to Husseinisdoingfine's topic in Society, Politics, Government, Environment, Current Events
I think the topic here derailed very quickly. Coming back to the main topic. My personal opinion is Dan Bilzerian is the right candidate, he is a necessity, regardless of his previous lifestyle and that he is wrong on some issues obviously. Its not about stupidly worshipping a person and proving that one has no brain, its about recognizing him as a necessity to finally have a move forward on this Genocide. While most people are still debating and getting pushed into non-sensical discussions about Antisemitism drinking a cocktail or a beer meanwhile little Children are massacred for them being Arabs with the full support of the hypocritical Criminals Western Countries, with no way to escape their slaughter, day by day, without a single day that it does not happen. So Dan is the most correct candidate in this context and his controversial style of talking is a total necessity, there is unfortunately no other way -
Humans = grotesque shipwreck
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He explains a lot of them in his book Mastery
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This is incredible! How much work did it go behind these? I never learned how to code so I have zero idea. This seems like alien stuff
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Everyone is angry not just you. What you need is the antidote. Forgiveness. You have to hold in your mind that nobody out here wants to be a murderer. That's how YOU stop being a murderer.
