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Precisely. That's the danger of going down the path of just playing into woman's shadows/desires.
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Nevon replied to Nevon's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
I'm practicing Leo contemplative exercises on realizing God-consciousness. One of his central claims is that "you are not a biological being" and that "being biological" is an idea that should be questioned or dropped during contemplation. I'm taking this practice seriously, but this is the part I struggle with. I genuinely don't understand how to see through the idea that I'm not a biological organism. I'm not trying to argue or troll anyone. I'm asking whether someone who understands this teaching can explain why. -
All we're saying is: 1940s Germans > 1999 Germans Whats so hard to understand?
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Nevon replied to Nevon's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
What's wrong having an identity? even Leo keep saying over and over again "i am god" When i go into a classroom, im seeing a classroom, a field of classroom appear in my first person view, I see my entire screen morph into a classroom And im talking about consciousness in absolute perspective I think the problem is that you are not operating on my level, im not sure what type of game you are playing, stop trying to confuse yourself by keep thinking who you really are, just shut up and observe raw reality as it is ,without a filter of concept and ideas. -
@Nevon Why are you making a post if you already know? You are speaking from both perspective simultaneously and then asking a question about one state to the other? You are speaking as if the states arent the same but are the same somehow.
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Sugarcoat replied to Majed's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
You say you weren’t introspective back then. I think if you develop introspection, it won’t be as powerful as someone who is naturally introspective + develops it. Because you have gone deep, to me it seems you must have had good natural introspection from the beginning, but maybe just in unconventional way (being so involved externally). It didn’t seem you followed norms much, and you did extreme things that people judge as insane, that to me suggests being internally driven in a way that’s quite independent. Basically, you can do outward things in inward way, and vice versa. Just some thoughts that came up tonight when reading Yea I have my own critiques of therapy too, doctors etc. There are problems in how the conventional therapy model works, but then the customers are also problem as you say. A deep therapist who actually can ask the right questions and hit someone deep, if the costumer isn’t receptive to that it’s useless. So society is like stuck in this loop regarding those things -
Inliytened1 replied to Nevon's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Thats because you are full of shit. You have an identity. What is it. When you go into a classroom what do folks see. What do you see yourself as. Answer it. -
Nevon replied to Nevon's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Dude im talking about consciousness in absolute perspective, You seem confusing 2 different levels of reality. I'm talking about the absolute nature of experience, not how to behave in society,from the absolute perspective, everything appears within the same consciousness, so the distinction between "me" and "chair" its just something you made up from your mind From the relative perspective, there are still body, laws, and social consequences. Realizing nonduality doesn't erase relative reality. It simply means that, at a deeper level, all distinctions arise within the same field of awareness. -
In terms of AI replacing humans in a functional way - a lot of random hallucinated statistics have been put forth itt that are, as far as I am concerned, completely made up. But a good contemplation question ~ "Does AI truly understand?" We can't really ask this question without driving headlong into questions about consciousness and experience as it ties to our current understanding of "understanding" in a human way. And we cannot say that AI is NOT conscious, just like we cannot know anything else is conscious. You could argue a case that AI does understand if we manipulate what we mean by "understand" as it applies to humans. But then you are left with the problem: if we can argue AI does understand (with some alternate definition of understanding as it applies to non-biological entities) does this understanding translate to human understanding? And if not, replacing humans (and in particular intuition comes into this) will be difficult. Then you would have to deal with thresholds for human understanding in certain fields of work - and the point where AI "understanding" overlaps with humans capacity would be how much/where AI could actively replace humans (and by replace humans, a human job, I mean totally replace with no oversight by a human required). Something like data entry - easy to replace. Low understanding required. Automate-able tasks - low or no understanding needed etc. Analogous to a human "habit" in that automation is AIs equivalent to human habit. If you argue that we don't even know wtf understanding is, or that we still don't know the mechanisms, it's going to be difficult to swallow any sort of AI replacing higher level tasks that require understanding, wisdom or intuition. This is where we get to AGI, no?
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@Leo Gura, let go of the science, return to the truth. You have lost your way. They, we, don't need repetition, they, we, need truth.
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@Nevon Then go jerk off in front of your family right now. Theres no difference between them being in the room and not. I say that because you dont act like it. Its schizophrenic logic. You would just walk down the street naked, why not? You cant do it because society deems this insane.
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Yimpa replied to Inception's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
YOU is God’s Favorite -
OBEler replied to Tealeave's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
@AerisVahnEphelia nah you dismiss meditation. It rewires your brain. -
Nevon replied to Nevon's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Who say that? Why not everything i perceive is me, for example you are looking at chair, that chair is happening in your field, hence that chair is you, if you say the chair isn't you, mean you are imagine a distinction to saperate yourself with a chair -
OBEler replied to Inception's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
This was not a joke from Leo. He was serious. @Leo Gura what really happened. -
Nevon replied to Nevon's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
In my presence experience experience there is nothing inside of me bruh, everything its on the interface, this bubble of first person experience, even when you told me to think of myself, next thought arise within my field pointing "i am this field" . The identity im holding to, is not in deep down, its very obvious, right now this moment that's happening to me, this colourful field of screen its illuminating itself U need to come out point to counter why my answer isn't correct, otherwise it's gonna be the same answer over and over again -
Loveeee replied to Inception's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
You guys keep talking about Leo not delivering on alien consciousness while I'm still waiting for the hot witch girlfriend video -
See, you see it too. Welcome to the resistance
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...still so confusing. on the one hand, i am glad that i am finally processing this, and it feels promising to be experiencing such a shift. that's cool. on the other hand, the sadness feels very real, and i wasn't prepared for this. maybe i do want to be comforted now, vicariously for my past self, after all. and not just by myself. maybe i want people to know that i'm sad so that they can comfort me. i had to deal with recovery all on my own, i had no real support, didn't want it cause the prospect seemed so triggering. someone could have said one wrong thing and it would have all collapsed. but maybe i don't want to be all alone with the things i feel now, at the very least. maybe i deserve to share that i feel sad.
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@Elliott Go live in a rainforest, you absolute stupid fuck. I don't even care anymore, ban me mods. I refuse to engage with imbeciles like you
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I just said that. Glad you finally see the light ✊️
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@enchanted @Elliott You're both retarded
