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It is a very common coping mechanism like anything you listed to escape internal shame, pain and all the uncomfortable feelings. I am not completely against porn and masturbation, though I think it is just better to masturbate without consuming porn. It also replaces the need to meet someone, to have sex etc.
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Ego dreams are not a patch on God dreams though cool nonetheless. They are how powerful I am as a body-mind compared to me in the fullness of God. A few heart-beats of rampaging power then poof.
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@something_else Overconsumption causes issues, not moderate usage. I suspect you don't have overconsumption issues, so you haven't experienced anything related to that. If you watch porn and masturbate way more than what's considered healthy, you'll see what we are referring to. But I agree, it's a problem with self-control, but it's harder to control yourself when you are a teenager, and once you get hooked on it, it's hard to get unhooked.
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You say it isn't healthy, but can you point to anything concretely unhealthy about it?
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Just because some people cannot moderate themselves does not make the thing itself bad. Take other addictive things like heroin, cigarettes, sugary sweets, for each of these you can point to concrete health problems that occur as a result of excess consumption. With porn are there really any concrete health issues you can point to? Probably the biggest issues are the ethical implications of funding the porn industry, and causing strain on relationships. The porn industry isn't super ethical, but you can consume amateur porn to bypass that. If your partner isn't happy with you watching porn I can see it causing strain on your relationship, but if they don't care then it's a moot point. Most couples I've met don't really seem to care if their partner watches porn. Aside from that I can't really think of anything else. Maybe causing people to have unrealistic views on sex? But again I don't really think that's universally true. I've found that porn has actually improved my sex life if anything.
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For me quitting social media was like 100x easier than quitting porn. But it's a huge problem in society I'd agree. People are mindlessly scrolling through slop 5+ hours a day. Such a waste. When it comes to porn, the downside isn't the wasted time per se, it's all the side-effects that come with seeking constant dopamine pleasures day in day out. I'd guess it won't be that bad if you do it once every one or two weeks.
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I changed my mind. I'm not buying a playstation for this game. Just going to wait until it releases on PC.
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Yeah, social media addiction is crazy out of control. That being said I would not consider watching porn for 30 minutes a day healthy either.
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Rafael Thundercat replied to Rafael Thundercat's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Let me give a little more context of what I mean by using one phenomena that we usualy see happening in politics Is the " Saying the quiet part out loud" that is a phrase used to describe the act of openly revealing a hidden agenda, unspoken truth, or secret intention that was supposed to remain unsaid. It often refers to a gaffe, indiscretion, or a moment of raw, unintentional honesty that exposes the underlying, often cynical, reality behind a polite or coded public statement. Key Aspects of the Phrase: Origin: The idiom is widely believed to have originated from a 1995 episode of The Simpsons ("A Star is Burns"). Context: It is frequently used in political or corporate contexts to highlight when someone accidentally reveals a selfish motive, such as "We want to make it harder for certain groups to vote," instead of using the coded language "We need to ensure election integrity". Mechanism: It breaks the social contract of "polite" deception, bringing a "quiet" thought into the "loud" public sphere. Examples: Politics: A politician stating a desire that is usually kept hidden, such as admitting a policy is designed to help a specific group rather than the public at large. Media/Workplace: A manager admitting that a promotion was based on personal friendship rather than merit. Social Situations: A child bluntly pointing out a secret their parent was trying to hide, such as mentioning an unflattering truth about someone in public. So in this line of thought Spirituality is being used superficialy by many that the deep meaning of it became a sort of quiet secret that anyone could see but dont see anymore. Someone Speaking the Quiet part outloud would be someone spilling it ouloud. -
RisingLane replied to CARDOZZO's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
A notable difference I observed between Bernadette Roberts and Peter Ralston is this: Ralston posits that the self arises solely from the social domain: In contrast, Roberts asserts that the self is independent of society, functioning instead as a product of the brain: I lean toward agreeing with Roberts in this case, but that doesn’t mean Ralston is wrong, as the social domain does play a significant role in the development of self. -
I don't track my my calories. I eat similar food every week, so I know what's going in. Then again I don't generally snack or eat junk food. Could I clean up my diet? Absolutely: more veg and less processed food. But I know I'm neither gaining or losing weight over time, so the balance is correct in that respect. I have calorie counted when I was doing a 5/2 fasting diet because you have to for that. I started that because I'd put on a lot of weight (for me) and that was mostly because of having a sedentary job, and not exercising at all. But even on that diet, I just ate similar things on my fast days, so I didn't have to think too hard about calorie counting. The diet was brutal especially in the afternoons, but was effective for me. I'd do it again if necessary.
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That might be the boldest confession I’ve seen all day.
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I would argue social media addiction is much more prevalent. There are a lot more people spending 4-5+ hours a day scrolling on social media than there are people spending 4-5+ hours per day watching porn. For most people who watch porn it's like 30 mins per day, if that.
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In theory, moderation sounds fine. The problem is that most people aren’t actually operating from that level of control. It’s not just about whether something is ‘objectively bad’, it’s about how it interacts with human psychology. Easy dopamine and constant novelty are literally designed to bypass moderation. So yeah, there’s nothing wrong with it in a vacuum. But in reality, most people don’t live in that vacuum.
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I think nobody argues that. If you have a healthy and balanced relationship with porn and also your partner is okay with that, enjoy I eat junk food and drink alkohol every once in a while, maybe on some social gathering and I enjoy that. It's that I can't do that with porn. I know it's not porn's fault, it's mine, but that doesn't mean that it's not hijacking my reward cycles and chemically messing up some shit.
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Hahahahaha. Brilliant exchanges. I’m Jar Jar Binks. 💀
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lol, Leo was so right on this, you guys are just projecting your own lack of self control onto porn. There’s nothing wrong with having a healthy, balanced relationship with porn.
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I was that way until I became aware of why I was really doing this, and I began to purify my body. I filled my life with energy that didn’t come from the outer surface of myself. But let me tell you, it was the hardest challenge ever, and if I hadn’t broken the pattern, I would have taken my life. I’m not exaggerating about anything written here!
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I feel like the issue is that humas are not really built to moderate such things. It is very easy to get addicted. It's quite similiar to social media you have listed in your list of "worse things".
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Rafael Thundercat posted a topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
A lot of people seems confused with the use of the term Spirit, Spirituality, Spiritual. I see in many comments online the use of it as it was mere a category of practice. People conflate Spirituality with practices or Spiritual New Age Content. Nobody suspects that the term points to the Truth of everything being Spirit. For example, the reason that people generally dont like to be objectified is because it goes againt the true Nature of Reality being Spirit and not Object. A clear way to guide people on Understanding Reality would be using the confusion of the term Spirituality as a start to them question everything. Of course that contemplation was ready made in the video What is Spirituality but I guess it could be made even better. -
This is definitely a fair point. I would argue that cigarettes are worse because they will actually kill you, but I get your point. I mean are any of these things objectively bad in moderation? There isn't really anything inherently wrong with novelty and easy dopamine unless you indulge to excess.
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Great post! I do think it’s possible to overcome it, but only if you understand the root of why those patterns are there in the first place. If you never get to the root, nothing really changes. From what I’ve seen, practices like dry fasting can bring a lot of awareness to your patterns and clear out a lot of internal imbalance. Most people don’t realize how much of their personality is influenced by what’s going on in the body, even down to things like gut bacteria. It’s not just genetics or life experience.
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My God dude. You are like a broken record with this neuro-diversity stuff. I'm serious, you are falling into self-deception with sloppy epistemology. It you keep insisting on this you will end up with a very wrong worldview. This isn't a joke any more.
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@Monster Energy are you yourself addicted to porn ?
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(part2) i jus want to add something to what i was saying... As far as memory is concerned, you also have elements in Nature remembering things, that is, DnA is able to remember, and you have these elements that come back, "reminding" the person or persons... So for instance, theres whas called atavism where an ancestral genetic trait reappears after having been lost through evolutionary change in previous generations. So the point is like, theres two different things, theres this fundamental memory that exists in all things, which geets down to the knitty grityy DnA, then theres whats going on from the very first point of perception, prior to the ability to form memories, and that is itself an important stance, cause it speaks to out first hand experience of building those memories (I dont know what you would consider nature, but you could just call it, first hand human perception vs. nature or something)
