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They weren't saying anything about psychedelics but it is also applicable on that subject. Everything that is overwhelmingly good with minimal effort is bad for your health. -
Carl-Richard replied to Zeroguy's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
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"Tomorrow it will rain". Where is the fear?
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Dude you are going to remain BROKE and desolate with this mindset and it will absolutely hinder your spiritual growth if you live in a western country, unless you have really truly sworn off material life but since you are on this forum I am assuming you have not. Focusing on the future is not some spiritual no-no. It is part of life and your spiritual journey, it is one half of living in Wu Wei, you live life fully while staying aligned, it's part of the whole. Living in balance knowing you need to abide by the rise and fall of the sun like farmers.
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So, do all of you believe that incrementalism is the only kind of change that's possible?
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Epstein was a node in a wider ecosystem largely revolving around financial crime : Criminal underworld - intelligence agencies - finance - and now tech.
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MXPCP for me works on the level of energy body. Or it somehow disconnects something that I can go into the energy field. It guides me very strongly to either put my hand on my stomach, my heart, to chant, to do a headstand or different Kriyas. It is also possible that it just releases the Kundalini energy for me and that is why I feel so much energy. 2-FDCK is in the mind. They are completely different.
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Deadpixel replied to Zeroguy's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
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That's not the point. If we're going to elevate someone to hero status, we need slightly higher standards.
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I don’t think that includes making ‘good’ money, just enough to pay your expenses.
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@Carl-Richard Every time you focus on the future, there is fear. And fear is the symptom of ego
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"Science-based lifting" is to use scientific studies to conclude which ways to train are the most optimal. It's a term primarily used in a setting of hypertrophy/bodybuilding training, and it's here it is often the most problematic. Why it is problematic can be boiled down to essentially one phrase: "moving your body is not like swallowing a pill". People tend to point to the scientific rigor of so called "high quality research designs" like randomized controlled trials by saying that is how we develop drugs and medical treatments, and these have been shown to demonstrate real effects that map on to the world accurately. Well, firstly, let's explore even that for a minute: SSRIs have been shown to be only 2% more effective than placebo. And that's assuming that the study design is accurate and can tell us something true about those effects, which can also be questioned. After all, who are the studies conducted on? Are those people's characteristics always applicable to any given scenario? Are they always relevant for you and your bodily functioning? Maybe not. That aside, you also have the problem of the replication crisis which affects all of behavioral science, not just psychology or the "softer" social science disciplines like it is often portrayed as, but it affects medicine, biology, biotechnology, pharmacology. And why that is the case could boil down to simply "humans are complicated". And what is even more complicated than humans popping a pill? That is humans moving their bodies, and maybe especially lifting weights for hypertrophy. Lifting weights is not just lifting weights. It's every cell in your body coordinating to produce complex movement patterns. To even conceive of this theoretically, forget about the empirical problems for a moment, is a wild assertion of confidence. You would essentially be claiming omniscience like a God. And that's what science-based lifters have essentially done to their analytical mind and by an even more painfully wild and confident extension their empirical capability not just in interpreting science but in claiming to have produced valueable and truth-uncovering research designs. And this ties into the second but related problem of ecological validity and external validity. Lifting weights is not just lifting weights yes in this sense that that phrase belies an immense world of complexity that is generally not appreciated for what it is, but it's also in the sense that the weights and the movement patterns are not the only thing that is part of your training. It's the gym, the surroundings, the people, the knowledge of the person lifting the weights, the motivation and rigor of the person lifting the weights, the shape and size of the body of the person lifting the weights, the length and width of the limbs; any characteristic that you could describe as merely tangentially related, is deeply intertwined in the outcomes of training. And this is where the "soccer moms in an 8-week study" critique comes in, and it's not a trivial or merely funny or facetious critique. Do you honestly think it is a good idea to base your idea of what is "optimal lifting" on people who are on average and certainly compared to the average hyper-obsessed gym bro not at all knowledgeable in lifting, not at all motivated to lift (at any considerable level of intensity or rigor), not the same size or shape as you, and maybe most importantly generally lifting in a controlled and alien setting where a scientist is standing behind you shouting "start", "stop", "start", "stop", at every rep, where some designs use absolutely unheard of training setups like using one technique with one arm and another technique with the other arm for those 8 weeks, where even quantifying states like "true failure" vs "3 reps in reserve" is mere hocus-pocus philosophical conjecture? And you then compile various of different kinds of studies like this that mostly contradict each other in terms of the overall conclusions and you end up with a marginal number of "51% in favor of this training method over this". And this is what is "most optimal". It is an absolute charade, a circus, pure pseudo-intellectual masturbatory, below AI-slop levels of investigation and conclusion. It's not to say that all of exercise science is pseudoscience. There are valueable studies on e.g. best ways to improve VO2 max which are much more similar to a physiological "pill-taking" mechanism where dose and response are much more simply controlled. But movement patterns, hypertrophy training, based on female mid-40s RCTs, compiled into a sludge of marginally favored conclusions, and then presented as "the most optimal way to train", is not as much pseudoscience as it is a failure of analytical thinking and logical inference. Science-based lifting is not really as much a science as it is a kind of metaphysics, a theological doctrine, that more interprets and concludes based on a set of assumptions rather than based on the actual observations. That is why "The Church of Science-Based Lifting" is a fitting and ironic name. Because that is also the kind of thinking that is associated with it: "what does the science say?" "what does the book say?" "what is the most optimal way?" "what is the answer?" "what is the thing we should follow, the one true way, the path, the one espoused by the Churchmen with the P and the H and the Ds?" It's ironic that the more "science-based", the less thinking you seem to have to do, the more you just have to listen, deny criticism, bow to authority. What is the true and honest way to train, is philosophy-based lifting; being aware of the assumptions underlying your thinking, not making poorly justified conclusions based on observation, and simply working with what you have, which in the case of hypertrophy is mainly yourself and your own experience, your sense, your own body and mind.
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I used to think that you could awaken yourself with a practice or something but after my initial awakening I knew that was nonsense. Here's something your zen teacher won't tell you- You can't do anything to awaken yourself because awakening has nothing to do with perception and what you mean when you say ,"I want to awaken" is- "I" (this body mind combo I perceive) want to awaken! (probably for some sneaky self serving reason). Well, Awakening cannot happen to a body and mind. It can only happen to you. You are not a body or a mind. You are not a perception either. If that is true, how is it that you could rely on the world of perception to awaken you? You can't. Some meditators sit for 30 years in a zendo watching their life go by only to find out the gardner who never sat a day in his life had an awakening after hearing an acorn hit the rooftop. There is no rhyme or reason to awakening. It just happens and there's nothing you can do to make it happen. My advice is, just live your life and Forget about awakening.
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Hello everybody, I just wanted to share my experiences with you over the last couple months (starting early to mid September) with UFO's and/or "undefined" anomaly. It all starts when I bought this stuff online called XUM, its 99% pure (apparently) Metocin, or 4-HO-MET. Very similar to psilocin, with a tweak. Not saying this has anything to do with experiences I've had, but they started during my first trip on it. I didn't put this under the psychedelic section because i haven't taken it since september and now its almost december, and experiences have continued on. wasn't sure where else i should've posted it under. The beginning of my story will be talking about the psychedelic experiences first and then when not on it (most of the time). So when i got this stuff, it got delivered on the weekend of september 6th. It's actually really good stuff. I've never taken metocin before and had only recently discovered it a couple months prior. I have only done shrooms, lsd, and then non psychedelics. When it got delivered i thought i would just take it the same night for the first time. So at around midnight i took 5 chewable tablets which it says it would be 10mgs, possibly a bit higher. The feeling is probably 80% similar to mushrooms, but a different visual polish and a more present head space. No nausea was a plus. I have thrown up on shrooms alot... I ended up taking the metocin once a week for 4 weeks in a row, always on late saturday night to sunday morning. Really cool stuff. So most of the time i was outside in the back patio next to the pool. No screened in, open sky. each time i took it it was always after midnight. It took around 30-60 min to fully kick in. So around 1am i was tripping and looking at all the plants around the outside of the pool fence and all the big trees that hang over. After being outside for a while just staring up at the sky, I notice this object in the moonlight. It looked like this blackish-translucent drone like object, like a craft of some kind and it was just sort of hovering near my house. When you're on a psychedelic and your pupils are dilated and everything is highly amplified including emotions. The feeling that came over me as soon as i see this thing was like the feeling when your heart sinks into your stomach, like you're on the edge of a cliff. I immediately knew it was watching me, whatever it was. This craft sort of drifted and hovered away into clouds. But i saw it again like a hour or so later. That was the first time. but not the first time i'd seen strange things in the sky. around this time 4 years ago i was in the car and saw this green light flying by in the sky going like a million miles an hour, if i hadn't been looking in the sky at that exact moment through the windshield, i wouldn't have seen it. So the following week I took the stuff again. And each time i took it, the things i would see would almost like compound. I saw the same thing the 2nd week and i also saw other stuff along with it though separately, like these twinkling objects that looked like stars, slowly twinkling and traveling across the sky. Planes fly over too, and they were obviously not planes and no sound following them. That was my 2nd time. I was outside until around dawn and the stuff had worn off and as i'm looking at the sky i see this gigantic streak/beam of light flying directly over my house, like low and close to it. it was gone in a flash. and then like 10 seconds later i see it again, except going in a completely different direction. It really caught me off guard and i was like "holyyy shittt!" During the week when i wasn't on the metocin i started seeing stuff as well. Because in my mind i was thinking, "does my frequency on this stuff attract these things or something? can they feel my vibration?" I didn't know what to think. Or what theories to come up with. But then i started seeing them when i wasn't on it at all. Throughout the month between trips i had a dream where i was sitting on my bed but it was on the roof of a tall building, at night, and im on my bed and a ufo comes right up to me and i can see beings inside and i just put up a peace sign. interesting what consciousness imagines. The last time i took XUM was at the end of september. And yet my experiences have continued further. So now we get past the last time i took it and i'm still seeing all sorts of ufo's and anomaly when i go outside at night. But not just at night, i also saw weird stuff in the distance during the day a couple times. But most of the time all these experiences were at night. One time when i was working out in the day time outside in the back, i saw something off in the distance. i also saw a flash of something running by or flying by or idk but it was so fast and it was on the ground right outside of the fence around the pool. like trying to workout with me. (lol no idea about that one but it was something moving really fast ) I workout alot of times in the back at night and these white glowing orb like things always started coming around. From my pov on the ground, they looked like little white balls, smooth, perfectly round a little bigger than a star and they slowly traveled across my field of view. They always came in packs of like 2-3 and seemed to follow one another. So i start waving at them saying hello telepathically to them. I was seeing so many different things and I knew it was some form of personal communication at this point, so i just started waving at them whenever i saw something i couldn't explain. I was also seeing the twinkling one. Then in the beginning of october after the first week in, i had to go to another house in another state in the mountains for an event. Pretty remote location from any high populace place. These orb like things followed me there and when i was working out outside there at that house they slowly glided past me in the sky. I saw them for a few days when i was there. And then when i came back, I saw them again, and again and again. pretty much the entire month of october near daily. I figured they must be communicating with me in some way and so i always waved at them whenever they came by and sent them positive energy. on multiple occasions when i was staring at them, a large flying creature of some kind flew by right in front of me it looked like a bird of some kind but it moved really fast and it was dark so i couldn't see closely enough. this happened 2 times. Just seeing this large bird like looking thing fly by really fast in front of me... So now its end of november and I haven't seen these orb things in a few weeks. But i've been seeing these other kinds.... It had probably been a few days without seeing anything, no more orbs flying by, no crafts, but the twinkling star looking ones still came by here and there. So then i have a very very "close" experience. So i just go out to my backyard at night and look up. Thinking to myself, "I don't want them to stop, its magical, i want to keep seeing them." i always felt positive whenever i saw them anyways. it was just plain cool yet insane. They felt like my "sky friends" lol. always comin by and saying "whatsup!" to me. lol. So on this night im outside in the back and just looking up, but nothing for like 30-40 mins. I was sending out telepathically "come say hi where are you guys?" etc. I'm standing in pitch darkness right around the pool and just looking up. Then after that time i was just gonna head back inside, maybe nothings comin by tonight. And just as I'm about to walk inside, this yellowish golden light shoots up from behind me, behind where i was looking, behind my house. Really close and low above the house. and then when it gets right in front of me up in the air it just vanishes. it moved fast but not that fast, more like smooth and so it vanishes and it leaves a little streak of something, idk if it was a gas of some kind but there was like a little faint "smoke" or after glow on the space it just flew though, but then that was gone in another 1-2 seconds. and then a single "spark" of light just pops right ahead of where it disappeared. quick on off , pop, spark. i felt that was its way (whatever it is) of saying "hey! im here!" it was the first that looked unlike the other ones. no orb like thing here, just smooth streak of light and the single spark. So then later that week i'm outside again at night, ready to say hi to something, and i'm standing around in the dark again looking up, for what seemed like a while at least 30 mins, just waiting for something. and i walk around to different areas around the pool for a different view. Then as i'm staring up. this giant streak of blue-white light with something in the middle of it (but it was too fast to really see, more like a streak) fly's directly in line with my head, straight over me, but higher up, not too high. and then vanishes a bit ahead of me, almost looking like it flew straight into a different dimensional layer. I was astonished as usual and waved as usual lol. Then later in the week i was coming back from a night drive and walking into the side of the house and there was a couple planes flying by and then i see another beam of light flying across in the distance beyond the planes. and then i saw another beam on another day as well. And tonight i was driving in my car and got stuck in traffic near the traffic lights around 10:30 pm. Right next to a fair that was closing, all the lights of the rides and tons of people walking out and huge line of cars. the traffic, police cars, a couple ambulances etc near the fair entrance. I was sitting there for like 30-40 mins or so in the traffic, super slow just waiting for the light to turn. and then out of nowhere in the sky right above the fair, this big-ish ball of white light appears out of nowhere and then it moved up, then down, then to the side, turned on and off, turned green, then back to white, and then smoothly flew away and vanished as it moved. I immediately knew it was another ufo of some kind. the way it moved was similar to other experiences i had. I haven't been going outside as much as before at night and staring up so haven't been seeing them as often as before. but all these experiences are 100% real and pretty crazy. The theories and questions that are swirling around in my mind are: "did the metocin make these things "find" me? was i casting off a different frequency of awareness and they were attracted to that? i mean i only took it a few times and more experiences happened after, that was just the start." "is this just random?" "is there something they are trying to show me or did they just want to reveal themselves to me?" "what was the deal with the flying creature bird thing when i saw them twice, was that a bird? an owl or what? and why right at that time when i see the ufo's? on both occasions" "are they always up there but we just can't see them or perceive of them?" "are these things beings themselves or crafts containing beings, or probes of awareness, etc.? what exactly are all these things?" "are they interdimensional? can they dip in and out of 3d and go to finer frequencies of consciousness?" "are all the different types, related to one another? communicative with one another?" "what were they trying to communicate with me exactly?" The questions keep coming. And i don't know. Can't explain it. It's super fascinating though. Really shows you what a dream this world is. Anyways, that is my detailed report of these experiences over the last couple months. -
I think that's what it means. When you force yourself to do it. It should happen naturally like you just find yourself doing it.
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My sentiments also.
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I think leo may be pointing to a meditation practice that becomes more about routine than actual practice. For instance, Some people sit for 20 minutes a day but don't make any progress because their practice is more about sitting for 20 minutes a day than deepening practice. I can only speak from my own practice when I say that ive have had periods where I was just struggling through 25 minute rounds or lost in thought the whole time but I have never found myself in a position where I was doing anything I could call mechanical. I don't think this is common. I spent some years living as a resident at a zen center and had a daily sitting schedule and never did it become mechanical or anything despite sitting at the same time each day. Just make sure that your primary focus while sitting is the practice itself. As long as you're sitting and doing your practice, you cannot go wrong.
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Hojo replied to Ramasta9's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
@Ramasta9Was that AI? -
Ramasta9 replied to Ramasta9's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
This is classic projection: You are trying to project what I "moved in you" onto me. You're creating the emotional disturbance (the provocative words, the judgment, the insult), but attempting to shift the responsibility onto me, implying I failed to embody stillness. In reality, I am not offended at all, and you are only solidifying and proving my point of why i made this topic to begin with. Such behavior only validates the topic of the post: The forum being full of reactive, projection-laden, ego-driven exchanges. Thanks for being the perfect example. -
Hojo replied to Ramasta9's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
@Ramasta9You dont understand what inner stillness means it dosent mean be quite all the time, it means engage with life and not be moved by it. I moved you with words ,you get offended. Thats not stillness so why are you telling us about inner stillness? This forum is teaching people about inner stillness by doing this. There was a woman on here who recently wrote how the forum is bringing her inner stillness via arguing with intellectuals. This forum is a type of yoga. Its like a zen monastery where your ego gets intellectually hit by a stick every second until you stop caring. -
You quoting me out of context. (We were debating the need to elevate him to some kind of hero status.) No one implied that being shot for having different values was acceptable in any way.
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Ramasta9 replied to Ramasta9's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Mere deflection and a reversal of emotional responsibility. -
Hojo replied to Ramasta9's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
@Ramasta9 The real projection is you getting offended. My words mean nothing. -
Ramasta9 replied to Ramasta9's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
I have nothing to prove here, I am simply being myself and expressing what I feel needs to be said, because no one else is sharing this perspective. Its no surprise that such a reply was made, this is exactly the type of immature exchanges and reactionary responses I am talking about in this post. Full of projections. -
waheed replied to Zeroguy's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Nothing was said and nothing was heard, nothing written or read either.
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