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Lunatic replied to AtmanIsBrahman's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
“So, this raises the question: what is the most truthful teaching?” @AtmanIsBrahman “The Buddha compares his teaching to a raft that takes people from the shore of suffering to the shore of freedom.” “The Work too is like a raft.” (Katie and Mitchell 2017, chap. 6) “This one speaks any egoic language necessary to trick you into going inside.” (Katie 1998, 12) “Nothing anyone says is true, and no thought that arises within you is true.” (Katie and Mitchell 2007, chap. 62) The Work of Byron Katie and The teachings of the Buddha are false/imagined/projected/fabricated but they bring about what is ultimately true/not false/…. “The Understanding, the knowing of Self, Presence, ultimate Truth, lies outside human experience as it lies outside time and space.” (Carse 2005, 61) “All this took place beyond time. But when I put it into language, I have to backtrack and fill in.” (Katie and Mitchell 63, 2007) See also (Carse 2005, _Perfect Brilliant Stillness_, 60) “Of course every spiritual teacher has to worry about survival just to be able to teach.” @Leo Gura “Well wonderful, what's wrong with vitamins? I sleep, I eat, so what? The question is, do I have to? And the only reason why the great ones live like we do is because we can't comprehend them if they don't.” (“Lester Levenson, Hale Dwoskin - Lester Levenson (Sedona Method) Magnum Opus PDF-Lester Levenson _ Sedona Method (2024)”, 29) “If the householder said no, the no was received with gratitude, because the Buddha understood that the privilege of feeding him belonged to someone other than that person. Food wasn’t the point. He didn’t need it. He didn’t need to keep himself alive. He was just giving people an opportunity to be generous.” (Katie and Mitchell 2017, chap. 1) -
Love this. His point is that it's important to want to understand everything about reality, including the bad/negative stuff. That's having cognitive empathy. Actively avoiding the negative aspects of life is survival. If we can consume, digest, & metabolize the negative stuff, it won't make us weaker, it ultimately makes us stronger, more aware, and more capable of seeing multiple perspectives. It's just like how feeling into a negative emotion, like allowing yourself to cry is so healing and therapeutic. Toxic positivity is a real thing too and is rooted in fear & denial.
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So I talked to him about it. And he replied that he experienced the same. Multiple women there accused him of sexual harassment. I assume he implied that he didn't do shit to deserve it. I am loosing my fucking mind. This place has to be nuked with truth.
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I will check it out. Thank you!
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UnbornTao replied to shenanigans's topic in Society, Politics, Government, Environment, Current Events
Tiths good -
I'm have been doing some of those. I've been disciplining myself and changing thinking patterns and doing spiritual work. I've set loose goals but after reflection I think the were too loose. I will define them narrower and be more specific. Hehe, I came up with a similiar list when I contemplated the subject. I think I will focus on each principle for a certain amount of time like a month in turn so that I'm not all over and can work through other points as well. Thank you for the inspiration. I have Arnold Schwarzenegger's book "be useful" on my shelf. He talks a lot about how he handled challenges he encountered in his live. I read about a third of it. I will put it on my list. I'm also very active in dating. It's a steep learning curve and I've inproved a lot since last year.
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Xonas Pitfall replied to Someone here's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
You can definitely derive truth from scratch, but you first have to define what “from scratch” means. If it means starting from fundamental principles or from reality itself, then the only truth left, I would say, is A = A, or correspondence. That is all you need for truth; in a sense, that is truth itself. From there, you can try to derive other aspects of truth. A = A implies Solipsism. A = A also implies Love. A = A implies Purity, Truth, Unity, All, and God. It also implies Identity, the Self, and the “I am.” However, when you deal with more relative notions, it becomes more difficult. Then questions of preference arise: which biases should survive? Should the more truthful bias even survive, and how would you determine what counts as more truthful? How do you filter for a truthful bias when you do not have all the available information, intentions, or self-awareness and clarity? This is definitely problematic. -
Im gonna get my round earth people to get back to you on this one.
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Plastic flowers.
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Leo Gura replied to Someone here's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
It's a hell of a problem. -
I think Crocs are a good place to start....the problem is there aren't many good shoes that are widely available for a good price.
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Someone here replied to Someone here's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Thinking itself can never be 100% original. I made this point before . Observe yourself thinking ..you are always moving through concrete pathways and spefic lines of reasoning...all of which are not coming from within you from scratch but from others or external sources...not necessarily all of it .I conclude the only thing that is self-evident is raw qualia . -
Dude, your attitude is that of a child who only wants to eat candy. I am like a vulture, I will eat anything. I see a dead skunk on the side of road and eat it. That's what makes my mind strong.
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See I've thought about your comments here and I realize that this is the difference. Because honestly? I might be more interested in my survival than truth at this point. See, you are making a very serious spiritual study out of this. I just listened to some of the material and then I automatically felt bad, and then I had to work. Who is helped when I now feel bad trying to work? This doesn't help me. Positive thoughts do help, and I don't see the harm. But as a whole your work has absolutely turned me onto recognizing corruption and survival bias in things. Don't get me wrong, your blog is tremendous.
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@Wilhelm44 Illusion means not real, its not really there. The same way you can have an illusion that there are further and closer characters in a movie. Is there actually space between them in the movie? Or is it an illusion? It exactly means that.
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Someone here replied to Someone here's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Thank you . Guide me through an example of contemplating from scratch about "what am I?". -
Ziran replied to ZGROPIUS's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
"WILL" -
Bro im not a conspiracy nut, the fact is some turned out to be true, thats all. Time and space is a perceptual illusion, but that doesnt mean we living on a flat disk
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@Wilhelm44Then why think about it at all? Why entertain it at all? You may as well not entertain any conspiracy because it dosent matter. This is a trick you are secretly allowing it into your subconsious and you will be ruled by it. You will think about it, you will watch instagram reels and videos about it and then you will become scared. The 'deeper' intelligence you are referring too is Russian propaganda. Gen X are deeply involved with Russian propaganda.
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No one is obligated to help clean up your mess though. It is healthier for you to clean it up yourself. People fetishize this dependency on others, getting others do work they should just do themselves. If you trip on the sidewalk, pick yourself up and carry on. Don't make a big drama of it.
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@Wilhelm44Its like a simulation. If you watched a movie on your television and there was a character in the forefront and an enemy far away, is there space between the character in the forefront and the character far away in the movie? The same thing is happening IRL.
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shenanigans replied to shenanigans's topic in Society, Politics, Government, Environment, Current Events
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Leo Gura replied to shenanigans's topic in Society, Politics, Government, Environment, Current Events
Actualized.org is my tithe. -
@Leo GuraWhat’s your take on tithing?
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Im 49, i dont know video games lol. You really a flat earther, or you just pulling my leg ?
