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Michal__ replied to ROOBIO's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
No mind is not "not thinking". It is to raise above thinking - you are not the one doing the thinking. "Thinking non-thinking" to use the words of Zen masters. -
@integral If your framework is supposed to guard you from self-deception with regards the validity of your realization, then there's a different "danger" you're not addressing. If you base your success on the external achievements you limit the depth of what you can accomplish by social acceptability. What if what you understand is so alien to society that they would crucify you if you really pursued what you thought was "right"? This is said with tongue in cheek, but the notion of pursuing the "hot girl" is quite funny tbh. What if it's genuinely not what you value? What if what you value puts you as a bluepill beta because some insight revitalized some value that fell out of favor? I think there is no substitute to self-honesty and a spiritual practice grounded in truth. After all, apathy is an emotion and reclusion is a form of avoidance. You can always become conscious of what you are doing. In the end, what if you find yourself in a place where emotions no longer guide what you do?
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I had that and it got me no girls. You can't get girls if you don't learn to socialize. Pickup is just the skill of socializing. Many guys get rich only to realize they still can't get girls because they sacrificed social skills for success. Girls don't sleep with the rich guy, they sleep with the fun social guy. Good looks are great, but if you don't have them you still need a way of getting girls.
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Leo Gura replied to ROOBIO's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
It is not possible to live without thinking. You can mimimize unncessary thinking and you can have small windows of no thinking. -
I have another job opportunity but the problem remain the same, if I don’t have a car I would have to decline, it sucks so much, what I am supposed to do? Amplitude horaires : 7h - 19h
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So as a woman you are implying that we expire at a certain age?
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Breakingthewall replied to ROOBIO's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Agree, nothing wrong with logical mind, I mean just for meditation. As you said conceptualization can be aligned with the nature of reality, that's essential to be able to free the mind -
Breakingthewall replied to r0ckyreed's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
It's a conceptualization of a reality that was. Obviously the past doesn't exist, but it existed. Nobody think that the past exist, but the now has this relational structure as a result of a previous condition. -
gettoefl replied to Kiyo1104's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Love this! -
gettoefl replied to ROOBIO's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Yes excellent - except for me interpretation need not go all the way to zero but rather be truth aligned. For example, a tree rather than its encyclopaedic scientific meaning can now become a helpful living reminder of presence, beauty, innocence, God, interconnectedness, abundance or just plain being. -
Music is a centrifuge +thought accelerant. Accelerating bullshit to purify it. It blends intuited outcomes and truths - and pre-existing lower quality thoughts - throws them into a blender and discharges them in a colorful dance ring.
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integral replied to Consilience's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
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My blessed individuals. I have traveled far for the second time to be with you in this land to present de with a superior opinion. .✨ The way you differentiate a cult from a not-cult is by identifying its core values. You have to separate two layers: the extrinsic values that are superficially present, the stuff it advertises, the label, from the intrinsic values that are actually operating, which are usually unconscious to the cult itself and to its members. Once you label those correctly, you get a clear picture of what the thing actually is, and whether it's a cult. --- Most of this thread is trying to figure out what a cult is by looking at the symptoms. Leo's unfalsifiable epistemology is a symptom of the core values of the organization. That doesn't mean it's a cult. And the end of the day we got to ask what makes a value high or low? The domain is axiology. But that domain is pretty Limited, and Leo has his high consciousness axiology. "truth as the highest value" and so on.
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Carl-Richard replied to Consilience's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
@integral Get off the cocAIne. -
zurew replied to Consilience's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
This is unresponsive to a good chunk of my things ,but if you want to engage or if you just want to share your opinion in greater detail about Leo and actualized.org then come to the other thread so that we dont derail @Consilience's MAPLE targeted thread. -
r0ckyreed replied to r0ckyreed's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Peter Ralston goes into it in his book on why Now only exists. The past and future are conceptual in nature. They are images in the mind occurring in the Now. Time is nothing more than the conceptualization of change occurring Now. Now is all that exists. -
Carl-Richard replied to Consilience's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
@zurew "Actually, people writing a 'defamation piece' is a good thing". 😭 That's some slimy ass narrative control ("mind control"?) right there. -
integral replied to Consilience's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
My blessed individuals. I have traveled far to be with you in this land to present de with a superior opinion. .✨ The way you differentiate a cult from a not-cult is by identifying its core values. You have to separate two layers: the extrinsic values that are superficially present, the stuff it advertises, the label, from the intrinsic values that are actually operating, which are usually unconscious to the cult itself and to its members. Once you label those correctly, you get a clear picture of what the thing actually is, and whether it's a cult. --- Most of this thread is trying to figure out what a cult is by looking at the symptoms. Leo's unfalsifiable epistemology is a symptom of the core values of the organization. That doesn't mean it's a cult. And the end of the day we got to ask what makes a value high or low? The domain is axiology. But that domain is pretty Limited, and Leo has his high consciousness axiology. "truth as the highest value" and so on. - Today
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zurew replied to Consilience's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
What a weird and strange piece to write: https://tales.monasticacademy.org/tales/she-is-still-a-community-member/ The idea that the writer there thinks that they look good there even given their description of the events is insane to me. Also btw: https://tales.monasticacademy.org/tales/mad-when-they-fail/ -
Mellowmarsh replied to Kiyo1104's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Nice 👍 Also F E A R …..false energy appearing real. Yes, wide awake awareness is forever always present even during sleep, if it wasn’t you’d never wake up to the sound of the alarm clock. ⏰ Something has keep watch while you sleep. 🛌 Always awake is something the human mind can never hold.What is north of the north pole. -
@Boost 👍
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When reading Article 5, it was unclear to me whether I should interpret that last part as "potentially leading to" rather than "necessarily leading to". Here is the wording from the Article 5:
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gettoefl replied to Kiyo1104's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Indeed. Awake has no beginning. You are always awake. Even when you sleep. In sleep you cover up the awake state with imagery of your own making. But awake-ness is still present. Everyone is awake and prefers to hide it with thoughts of fear, lack, envy. Those are self created and unnecessary. To proceed without such egoic armour is to be awake. For example the antidote to fear is: Nothing real can be threatened; nothing unreal exists. -
But also it depends on the level of your development. My high level life coach said that I'm well above avarage in consciousness. If you are just an avarage level, then I can maybe coach you a bit. I have some bad emotion coming up at the evening. This means that if the too deep then even above avarage people struggle. But maybe yours aren't so deep.
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reply I'm pointing to this because it's a possibility. I feel the same way you do when it comes to relationships.
