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  2. I saw your post @Leo Gura about Roger's Thisdell "you can't spiritually wake up only become lucid" video and this is a great post. And again I kinda want to come here as a steelman for their pov. Like when they argue that you cannot have any ontological ground vs you claiming that god is the ultimate ontological ground - I don't really see the difference. I am not sure if they don't but I don't. Like, this is what experience of God/Love is for me - total dissolution of any frames, construct, ground. Like Rogers describing it as ephemeral qualia process of Mind - this is full with mystery and feeling of God for me (maybe thats because i had God realization so I am able to steelman this in this way and they don't really mean it) Saying God is pure imagination, or saying that everything is the state of consciousness, figment of consciousness (your pov) - this for me is the same (maybe not the same but a different facet of same diamond) realization as buddhist deconstruction and going beyond any frames. This is the same movement of Mind of going infinitely meta and ending up with no ground or frame - and this is the mystical experience of God. Sunyata/Emptiness = God. But real emptiness, not reductionistic and still imbued with remnants of materialism. Real emptiness that goes meta even to itself - that gives me a profound feeling and connection to God. I agree that they have some weird aversion to this beatifull word God (maybe for good reasons not to make conceptual traps for people) but having gone through both God Realization and buddhist annata I claim that it indeed ends in the same place. Even saying that there is no ontological ultimate ground - if that's the case then THATS THE TRUTH AND THATS THE ULTIMATE ONTOLOGICAL GROUND. So I agree with you that you have to end up at TRUTH. And there are unique qualities/feelings to focusing on qualia processing view vs God view. And the ultimate God includes both of those. As figments of its imagination. Or from their perspectives you could say even qualia processing is a constructed model and even God view is a constructed model. But that recognition of everything being a model construction - this for me leads exactly to the same mind space as deep contemplation of everything being gods imagination. Just infinite meta. Infinite meta = infinite deconstruction = infinite imagination = God = Love. @Water by the River
  3. I have to admit that doing psychedelics early in your life would be quite harmful. I wanted to do psychedelics when I was depressed and jobless years ago when I learned about them, but luckily I didn't have money, and they're illegal where I'm from, which is not to imply that their being illegal is right. I would have abused it without being conscious of and focusing on my feelings and the problems I had at that time. However, my enthusiasm remained, and I got clearheaded about how I would get and do them. My only way was to develop myself so that I could afford it.
  4. I think they should be left in a gray area legally and left to psychologists and spiritual teachers to lead the way with. I don’t think they should be super illegal but definitely not sold freely by shops. Magic mushrooms and ayahuasca are legal in Brasil and it seems like they aren’t abused or used wrong here.
  5. I think making them legal in a medical context makes sense; that way you give people access to their therapeutic benefits whilst also not letting some depressed dropout fry his brain with LSD or something.
  6. In the video, anti-vaxxers loved giving justifications by bringing up deaths of their relatives, which they comfortably blame on COVID, and they expect that Mike should feel responsible for it as a doctor, which is ridiculous. They want to be babysat if and only if they hear what they already believe; otherwise, it infringes their freedom, which they would think they aspire for everyone.

  7. Mark Manson Quits Podcast

    AION replied to BlessedLion's topic in Personal Development -- [Main]

    Thanks, I watched it. I sensed jealousy to be honest. Dispenza helped more people than he ever will and that bothers him haha. Although I like Manson he is somewhat of a megalomaniac which is ok. His current podcast only gets like 10-k views so he is trying to make a lot of noise to get more attention.
  8. The clearest example is tobacco, an addictive substance, clearly carcinogenic, which has also been treated with additives to improve its combustion and make it even more addictive. Advertised everywhere, creating several generations of addicts and millions of cancer cases. In fact, the birth of advertising as we know it today comes with tobacco. It was Froid's nephew who had an idea at a feminist demonstration to promote tobacco among women.
  9. The problem is not about being an anti-vaxxer but is about not being aware of your epistemology, and anti-vaxxers focus less on epistemology.
  10. Drugs and capitalism are a really dangerous and bad combination. It should be illegal to sell drugs for maximizing profit in any way shape or form.
  11. @Leo Gura Regarding your blog post about the recreational use of drugs and their criminalization (or lack thereof): I strongly hold the belief that it is at the least equally wrong to deal with drug users or addicts as if they're criminals. That's a completely backwards approach (not talking about you, but the so-called "War On Drugs"). BUT I also agree with your point that a complete deregulation is also a fundamentally wrong approach. There are 2 ways to completely mishandle the situation with drugs: 1. To just let it do its own thing and deregulate everything and 2. to criminalize harmless drug users or especially addicts that are in need of help — other ways of help we haven't even discovered yet, because our current way's success rates are ridiculous. It's also wrong to force anyone to become clean. Also: There are many many people that use drugs without being addicts. But those are the ones you hear of the least, which is a shame because their experiences could help us the most to find better ways to deal with the matter. What's really needed in my view is a whole new CULTURE of drugs. One that neither downplays their dangers nor treats their users as outcasts. Our huge problem is that we need to find ways to handle drugs with intelligence. This is an open question — individually as well as collectively. Not every drug use that's not spiritual is wrong. But addiction certainly is. So we need to find ways to keep the positives and lessen the danger for it to spiral out of control for someone. There are no easy answers! Not even the answer "use drugs only spiritually". I think drugs are a hugely fascinating aspect of this reality and of being human. This is a hard, but extremely juicy problem. I've always been fascinated with drugs my whole life. I also experienced their downsides and dangers first- and secondhand. I myself was lucky not to have my life destroyed due to them (but I've watched others do so) and I still struggle to find the best way to handle them with all due respect and integrate them into my life. But I refuse to accept any easy answers here. In an advanced society we'll have systems and a culture in place that prevents harm as best as it can while maximizing the upsides. No judgement but also not naively viewing them as harmless toys. Drugs are a very serious matter. And those are often best approached with Consciousness, Intelligence, Love but also sophistication and not one-size-fits-all solutions.
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  13. It is useful not to think of it as an ideal called "Truth." Just: What is true at any level? What is ultimately or absolutely true, and also what is true regarding X or Y such as experience, relationships, skill, your field of work, emotions, etc. True as what is.

  14. Best Water Filter?

    LoneWonderer replied to r0ckyreed's topic in Personal Development -- [Main]

    Check out youtube videos that compare and test different Reverse Osmosis countertop filters to see which is the best one and truly filters the most stuff.

  15. Best Water Filter?

    LoneWonderer replied to r0ckyreed's topic in Personal Development -- [Main]

    Brother that things made of plastic. Long term use of that thing especially if left in the sun and you'll be exposing yourself to loads of micro plastics.

  16. Mark Manson Quits Podcast

    Consept replied to BlessedLion's topic in Personal Development -- [Main]

    I really like him his well, think ive read most of his books if not all. Respect his authenticity and its a shame being authentic isnt as promoted or amplified as much as saying what people want to hear. As far as I know he didnt really do that many interviews or have guests on in the first place so i get the feeling the new content would just be what hes doing now but longer and more in depth
  17. @Never_give_up I totally feel you on that . I've wrestled with existential questions since I Was 14 yo trying to figure out life through philosophy. To some healthy degree philosophy is needed .but at some point you just have to smoke that damn DMT(which I haven't yet like you ) and drop philosophy. Can you go crazy from too much philosophy? Yea that might very well be the case ..Because all philosophical questions can only come after you wake up/become conscious. You waking up/becoming conscious is the beginning to everything. Like Big Bang.
  18. I believe the way they are going with Esketamine here in europe seems quite reasonable. Only allowing for treatment resistant depression and only with professional guidance. I wonder what indication would allow such a procedure for 5-meo. Existential nihilism?
  20. Happiness/bliss and Love generate truth.. as does Truth generate pleasure and Love..because they are the same thing. So it's a two-sided way . I always wondered about what I value most .. truth or happiness? And everytime I contemplate this question I answer : happiness obviously. Because love/bliss/ happiness are "faster" than Truth..because Love is a bit more closer to Truth than Truth is. Omg look at the hippy things you made me say
  21. Went for a run, had a shower, walked the dog while thinking on this feeling thing. Time is a construct that humans create with our minds. There is not time. All happens simultaneously. If this is the case, and the time dimension is removed, all that exists is each moment in absolute synchronicity. We all would inherently know the same. Meet up when needed. No clocks to check. Just know. But to embody this synchronicity, all must be one. So perhaps thinking through the above, feeling (and love being the highest and most powerful) act as a force to unify us. To push us to this synchronicity. When unified, there is no time. We are then, everything. You love, everything. You are God, and it is a living force in all. So you are God manifest, you are the condensed, coherent energy of God, made up of the very fabric of existence. Here to experience itself. But this can only occur with the construct of time being present. And inherent to this is the feeling dimension that arises. So, feeling acts to synchronize all to supersede time. All happens now, due to complete coherence & synchronicity with each other. Time is just God's creation to enable separation and learning. And feelings arise to push us to synchronize into one. Every evil act is therefor a division. Necessary to learn that unity, synchronicity, is the path. The polarity exists to learn that the more evil one enacts, the further they get from God. Bad feelings arise from evil acts. Divide. Maybe this is how feelings transcend pure survival, and also act as a conduit to propel us to God consciousness.
  22. @Leo Gura How to generate results in life from contemplation ? Is it to contemplate and act on those insights ? I have many answers from contemplation . Thank you.
  23. What I think needs to be mentioned here is that Spiral Dynamics is but a model, a western one at that. Is it useful? Hell yeah! Does it apply equally to the development of all human beings/societies on this planet? I don't think so. To me it appears to mirror Maslow's Hierarchy of Needs, which I think works in tandem with the integration and transition between the stages up to Yellow (perhaps Turqoise). The previous discussion about community, networking, career being a necessity to develop into Tier 2 reflects that as well. Strictly adhering to the models, it is a necessity and in most cases I think it actually is. However a yogi meditating in a cave for decades may tap into Coral (acknowledged by Beck, hinted at by Wilber) or beyond, without going through these stages since the environment drastically differs from one SD usually considers. Would it be the same as someone who went through these stages and integrated them? I don't think so, but the manifestation may be similar - at least on an individual level. For a long time I considered that kind of action a selfish escape, but nowadays I've been thinking if there is a potential effect of their manifestation of consciousness on the collective as a whole. I also think that progression when you consider this model is messy, not linear at all. It got incredibly messy since the globalization and the internet. It's more like those vertical soundwave visualizers you see on music players like WinAmp, seemingly randomly manifesting (even though there is a delicate balance within the chaos), but there's a hint of progression (like increasing the potenciometer of Preamp gradually over the years). A quote from Clare Graves (The father of SD) - "The psychology of the mature human being is an unfolding, emergent, oscillating, spiraling process marked by progressive subordination of older, lower-order behavior systems to newer, higher-order systems" "The map is not the territory" - Leo, 2020?
  24. Problem is that in the US any legalized drug is marketed with hyper-capitalist zeal. The marketing of drugs should be made illegal. It's crazy to allow marketing of weed.
  25. These are my core values.

  26. Mark Manson Quits Podcast

    Rishabh R replied to BlessedLion's topic in Personal Development -- [Main]

    @Leo Gura I have read all his books and watched his podcasts. I liked them especially the book called Subtle Art of not giving a ----. I have found his work similar to your's.
  27. For me, truth has a very practical purpose: It's incredibly exhausting to pretend that things are other than they are. And it leads nowhere. I am insecure and try to pretend otherwise? People will notice anyway. So I can stop wasting my resources trying to cover this. I want to make the next step in my development? I need to accept things as they are to change them. I will not be able to change what I don't accept I want to have a fulfilling live? I need to find out what I truly want instead of chasing wishful thinking Lastly and most importantly: In my experience, life mirrors and reflects me. So if for instance I want to find the right partner for me, I need to send out actions that are as authentic and truthful as possible. Because if I don't, life will always reflect someone that does not reflect my true desires and needs. It will reflect a fake image of who I want to be instead of who I am. Self-sabotage at its best.
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