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Both are true. Socialists failed to sell themselves in many ways, However incompetence isn’t just about winning, there are other factors. If there is an election between a candidate who polls at 1% and another who polls at 99%, then the result is 49% and 51% respectively, the loser was far more competent than the winner who bungled his lead. Still not enough to overcome the odds. Sanders fought an uphill battle and gained ground but lost. Democrats had the advantage and screwed it up.
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"Democrats lost because they're weak" "socialists lose because democrats are too powerful" More like basic denial 'Socialists just need to sell it better!' "Hot dog, get your hot dog!"
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Raze replied to Husseinisdoingfine's topic in Society, Politics, Government, Environment, Current Events
Not at all. The US and Europe not only arm israel but engage in trade, give aid, provide diplomatic cover. Their support maintains it. The US and Europe do nothing of the sort regarding Iran and go as far as massively sanctioning not just the government but the entire economy. There did seem to be more support during the 2022 Iranian protests yes. I suspect less now because the left is focused on domestic issues & dislike trump and Israels foreign policy actions in the past two years and associate them with the Iranian uprising since they inserted themselves into it. -
Nivsch replied to Husseinisdoingfine's topic in Society, Politics, Government, Environment, Current Events
When Iran kills thousands of its citizens there are no mass protests in Europe or the US despite the large influence those governments have on Iran and tools they can use on it. This large gap cannot be explained by surface level political logic. -
@Leo Gura, seeing goblin coming out of a zipper that appeared out of nowhere is very radical compared to seeing a unicorn at a specific coordinate. I wasn't trying to say that it's irrational.
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This is basic reasoning
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I rather think: "I don't know why he/she did XYZ" Believing that he's the one supposed to be leading is already projection. I had plenty of experiences where the woman was mainly leading the interaction or where the lead was changing over time and in total balanced.
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Depends on the ideal possibilities of success and how closely they got to them.
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zazen replied to Husseinisdoingfine's topic in Society, Politics, Government, Environment, Current Events
Like Raze said - Western governments back and uphold Israel to do what it does (meaning you can protest your own governments actions) where as they don't uphold Iran's. I saw someone say ''pro-Palestine protests are calling to stop bombs (on a besieged stateless people), pro-Iran protests are calling for dropping bombs (on a regime they want changed)''. One thing we can see is that marginalization leads to more radicalization. That happens in Western countries with ghettoized migrant populations who in fact take on more hard line strands of Islam than even Muslims in Muslim countries ie Dawah bros of UK / Muslim brotherhood offshoots who are more Wahabi / Salafi compared to a Middle East who are over that and trying to tackle it themselves - despite their own states funding much of that historically. Soviet era atheism forced top down brought a resurgence in Orthodox Christianity after USSR falling. We see right Wing Christian nationalism rising also. If religion and tradition are marginalized too fast, or all together erased (soviet) they go underground and come back later hardened. Ironically - the status quo will look to remain until Iran's given some breathing room to evolve slowly and organically over time which is a boring and ''un-revolutionary''. A lot of their hardening is due to self preservation of elites / mullahs + external pressure from being attempted to be contained by the imperial hegemon of the day (US and Western allies). Makes them dig their feet in and centralize the state because any ''liberalising'' or opening up provides surface area and vectors from which to subvert and bring down that same regime. Usually most states don't get repressive because they get boners for it but a lot due to external pressures which are applied to some and not others depending on how geopolitically relevant that country is (resources, chokepoints, population etc) and whether it is aligned ie subjugated or not to imperial interests. If sanctions were lifted and it could get wealthier + integrate and feel accommodated in the region / world + have a strong middle class of educated people travelling and interacting with the world = that is the best bet at bottom up change and reform happening. Even Kirk commented on intervention: -
So, you admit socialists like sanders are even more incompetent.
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No, they just did so in an incompetent fashion. Same with many aspects of their governance, hence turning voters against them. Like what republicans are doing now.
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To think, AT ALL. To take their date to Martinellis Steakhouse vs McDonalds. Do you think Democrats didn't advertise and campaign, are you on drugs?
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To do what? They voted for who they wanted and got it.
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If I take a girl to a McDonald's, I MYSELF failed, not Barney's 5 star bistro.
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They already tried and failed. Now he’s way too popular, unless his tenure as mayor fails.
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This is what we're arguing. The voters FAILED.
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The only reason you are defending the democrats is because at some point they persuaded you, but somehow you deny the relevance of persuading others in a system which power is awarded though votes (in each state). Ironic.
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Ya, being a bad fucking legislator and president vs being a better one, Because the VOTERS AREN'T 5 year olds buying happy meals
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Breakingthewall replied to Entrepreneur's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
When we talk about increasing your consciousness, we're really referring to being aware of more things. This is irrelevant in relation to enlightenment, since enlightenment is being aware of the absolute, unlimited Being, which isn't a thing, but rather the opening that allows existence. Let's say that what appears is the vibration of Being. You can be conscious at level 3 or at level 1 billion, but both are equal with respect to the infinite vibrational potential of Being. Enlightenment is the opening to the bottomless, boundless Being, to the field of possibilities where existence manifests. -
So the Michelin star restaurant should not consider adopting the winning strategy McDonald’s uses but instead just declare it is everyone who didn’t buy from thems fault and let their business tank and go out of business? Congrats your business failed and no one cares. I wonder if you’d maintain this belief if we invested your life savings in a business. Would you sit on your high horse like this or would you suggest they actually try to convince customers to buy? By your logic everyone should just stop donating to democrats and they shouldn’t even bother campaigning. Since it’s everyone else’s job to just vote for them.
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No I just have capacity for nuance and basic logic. This doesn’t conflict with anything I’m saying. Democrats are just getting lucky their opposition is shooting itself in the foot.
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McDonalds winning is the CONSUMERS fault, not Michelin star restaurants faults.
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Nivsch replied to Husseinisdoingfine's topic in Society, Politics, Government, Environment, Current Events
@Raze This wasn't the main motive of the protests at all. The weaponry support comes from the US is sufficient for everything Netanyahu's government wants to do, so it doesn't explain the protests in Europe and therefore a large part of the protests in the US that come from the same sentiment.
