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Attention, money, sex—survival, really. Also that fact that nobody can sustain isolation very long without consequences. Some decide to never be alone and ignore the tradeoffs. I think there’s equally as many people that can do the opposite and will ignore some of the survival tradeoffs they make in their solitude.
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trenton replied to trenton's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
The problem with this definition is that it easily becomes unfalsifiable. For example, if I point to something that doesn't have a natural explanation, then the counter is that it actually does but we haven't figured it out yet. The god of the gaps argument makes it impossible for anything to lack a natural explanation. From this position, everything is necessarily natural. Secondly, defining natural would be a challenge. It is a good try to define it in this way, but I think it remains circular. How do we determine what counts as a natural explanation if we need to define natural? -
@Ima Freeman no I come from a atheistic family, but there is a difference between making sexual jokes with guys and with a girl. With guys you are just being silly and don't care, but with woman it is different, that is also how you came to ask this question, if it worked well you wouldn't ask this question.
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@LordFall I think we’re largely in agreement, but there’s an interesting paradox in your example of feeling overwhelmed by life’s pressures. Problem-solving is a valuable skill, but when someone becomes accustomed to approaching everything as a problem to solve, even the emotional exhaustion caused by constantly solving problems can become another problem to solve. At what point does the solution start reinforcing the problem? Personally, I cry fairly regularly, sometimes from exhaustion, sometimes just watching a movie. Rarely because there’s some major problem I can’t solve. I think there’s a distinction between knowing how to solve problems and recognizing when problem-solving is actually appropriate. Even resolving an external problem doesn’t necessarily resolve the emotional experience surrounding it. And I’m curious whether you’ve encountered women who became more frustrated when you tried solving their problems rather than simply understanding them. If not, I might need an introduction to some of these women, lol.
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Trying to entertain or impress people, trying to be funny, trying to be liked; just sets the relationship up to be artificial. And a lot of mature people can see right through it anyway, a McRelationship.
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It's unattractive dynamic to have rules, imo, don't know how else to put it for now. But people are in all kinds of dynamics and relationships that make me think, why is that better than being alone? Are they even attracted to each other, do they even like each other? Lol.
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Oppositionless replied to trenton's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Two days ago I made fun of my friend for being a valley girl, a day later ended up on a date with a literal valley girl. -
Now that you know that Leo, do you enjoy the challenges of life?
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Sugarcoat replied to trenton's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
I don't care about evidence from others, I care about experiencing things myself, if I want to. Direct experience is sufficient imo -
Imagine that electricity is the source of livelihood. The secret of life is simply electrons. The rest is just configurations around that basic truth. Imagine! What a plot twist!
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Carl-Richard replied to trenton's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
A large sum of money purportedly offered by a non-scientist who doesn't accept actual scientific evidence. They're also allegedly a liar. 1. The phenomena could be real but harder to control than one would like. 2. How do you know what the CIA does? -
@AION The problem with claiming that behavior is ‘women being women’ is that you now have to qualify what it even means to be a high-quality woman. You say you come across high-quality women but if just being a woman entails the downsides you articulated—then I don’t see how being a ‘high-quality woman’ changes that foundation. Maybe the only thing between you and high-quality woman is getting rid of this notion of high-quality itself. It sounds like a limiting belief. And it doesn’t change the fact that it sounds like you’re ending up with women you otherwise would have disqualified. It’s okay to disqualify people from being with us. Even without diagnosing why that may be, it raises a question of integrity, don’t you think?
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I would look into legality loopholes or proper medical treatment, before blindly researching how to source copious amount of mushrooms. The tools I suggested do not guarantee anything. They are just the bare minimum you can do to legally protect yourself if you decide to research this yourself.
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I think a large portion of day-to-day emotional distress comes from problems that can be solved, but of course there are existential experiences completely beyond our control where the only path forward is to feel, process, and release the emotions. If a woman you know is crying because a loved one died, then the only thing you can do is be there for her and hold space for her sadness. Most of the time, though, it's gonna be solvable things like financial problems, issues with her peer group, feeling overwhelmed with the pressures of life, etc. That's where you can actually make her life better by helping solve the root problem instead of just staying in emotional support mode.
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Exercise
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@yetineti thnks
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Hello Leo and anyone who is reading this. How come I noticed this pattern in North America at least. Right wing conservatives tend to be more pessimistic (the elites are pedophiles!!) So they are more likely to say Canada or America is doomed. Yet Left Wing woke or liberals tend to be more optimistic "I think things will improve! Look our government is already building more housing and transit! Look Carney is so trustworhy he's a banker and not a politican, he is good with numbers he will take care of us" Or i tend to see more conservatives be more likely to say America and Canada are 3rd world countries now. Where as more liberals are likely to still see America as a 1st world country. Why is it not by luck that I observed that more likely conservatives tend to be more negative about the outlook of Canada or USA and I'm more likely to find more liberals with a positive outlook?
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I’m not going to risk international drug shipping via Gmail. And nobody is going to do this for free. You’ll have to find someone in person or safely identify them on the internet. There are all sorts of instructions out there. I would use special browsers, vpns, possibly Tor Keys, etc. These are known paths for people to find information otherwise not openly available. I do not have any specific sources or providers for you and I will not/would not divulge that information for you here. This is about as much information as I can comfortably give you without risking my own account here. VPNs, Tor Keys, etc. are just basic security avenues, FYI. They do not guarantee anything, they come with their own independent risk and all legality around usage of such tools should be individually acknowledged and understood.
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@Basman Thank you. I definitely can do with more experience of letting go in group settings. It happens from time to time, but I need much more xp to overwrite my baseline of tensing up and overthinking. Maybe I can try and channel the feeling I get when sitting with a close friend, and visualize what that could look like, and feel like, when talking to people I'm not that close with, without pouring my heart out. Letting a higher consciousness take the wheel, an interesting idea. I have tried microdosing mushrooms which can put me in a more playful flow state, but it's a bit unpredictable. I usually avoid using alcohol to loosen up, but I do occasionally take a shot before going to a party, if I'm feeling anxious about meeting a bunch of new people.
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A nurse sounds good . . I need to focus on the spiritual part from now on ...! (the z-drug did a really good job btw) as good as new
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Nemra replied to AtmanIsBrahman's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
@Leo Gura, it just dawned on my why you say "private hallucination". The sentience of others is a hallucination inside my experience because there cannot be an experience existing independently of my experience and yet intersecting my experience. So, true independent experience would never intersect with mine, making my experience private hallucination and those true independent experiences potential hallucinations. My private hallucination could not have existed if there weren't infinite kinds of potential true independent hallucinations. It's the same with sensory fields. Each of my sensory fields is proof that there are infinite kinds of sensory fields that have the potential to exist, but they are not actual as of yet. Because if there were not infinite kinds of sensory fields to exist, the sensory fields that currently exist would have never existed in the first place. It seems to me that infinite kinds of potential true independent hallucinations point to the infinity of Gods or alien awakening that you have mentioned. -
can you guys tell me
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Tuesday: October 13th, 2026. Aurora as an atmospheric phenomenon is distinct from energetic aura.
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Tuesday: October 13th, 2026. Nilometer as an ancient measurement is distinct from kilometer measurement.
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Tuesday: October 13th, 2026. Improvisation without any prior planning is distinct from continuous improvement.
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