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  2. From now on, stop the overuse of capitalization of words, especially the all caps "GOD". It's pretentious, misleading and doesn't do justice to the seriousness of this work here.
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  4. True. I would be curious to know though if there is an actual example of a cult out there, who did place a heavy emphasis on teaching epistemology and critical thinking, and still ended up going down a dark path ?
  5. Provider frame still works but it is not the best. It is for people without game.
  6. It’s just a mythical story. All recognition is the artificial recall of a dream where the dreamer, dream, and dreaming are one and the same nothing appearing to be something that never happened. Art is natural, without agency, or author. Nature is artificial, same, without agency, or author. Noumena and Phenomena are the same one mirage. Just Images of the imageless, the nothingness appearing as everything. The happening not happening. The unwritten written. The empty looking. The not-knowing knowing. Knowledge is a story that can only point to the illusory nature of reality. An awakening is a mechanical awakening.
  7. Consciousness empty of psychological content as in strong desires of cravings and aversions, which in turn stimulates incessant and compulsive thinking and emoting that veils the Self or Awareness, is what he is talking about. Consciousness becomes unconscious when it is under the spell of its strong desires , not when it is empty and devoid of psychological content. Pure consciousness implies experiences without the psychological imprints from the same. For example an unconsious or unawakened person who is walking along a street filled with attractive ads and banners of various products , would be spell bound by the glitter and glamour surrounding the same and be moved to buy those products even if they are not of any practical utility to him or her. An awakened sage on the other hand would walk through the same street totally conscious but without any psychological impressions or imprints on his mind by the same seductive ads and banners. He might buy an umbrella or raincoat if it suits his practical needs in case it is raining but nothing more than that.
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  10. Meta perspective

    oOo replied to YIDIRYIDIR's topic in Personal Development -- [Main]

    An aspect of my day to day work that has a good outcome for everything else, is that I have to be incredibly imaginative. Beyond movie director imaginative. This gives me an enormous advantage that I feel I have been overlooking for a long time that I feel people would gain a lot from if they trained their imagination. I can perform time lapses with ease across any domain, so meta-perspectives are pretty straightforward. I have shared how I enjoy learning about history. It gives me a tremendous advantage to be able to seamlessly perform rapid time-lapses in my imagination (full sensory imagination, so sound as well, i.e. but mostly visual) across human history based on the things that I learn, across many different scenarios. I have only in the last some months or so started to take advantage of the time lapsing ability in this sense, but it genuinely makes me feel: Far more at ease Far more secure living in the skin as a human being Far more at peace within myself and humanities progress at large Far more resolved in my mission and its objectives Fsr more forgiving towards people Far more aware of how stupid and fragile I am despite the strength I need to show in barbarian analogous situations Far more loving towards the causes least in alignment with humanities growth while also more boundaried Etc Timelapsing ability, well I should say timelapsing skill as its something that has evolved as I've needed to train my imagination "in motion" for a while now, is something I haven't seen discussed on the forum before, maybe it has i just haven't researched it, but I hope my mentioning it now, benefits at least one person. I have mostly, especially this year, strayed from providing advice involving the mind because I see a lot of people uniquely dissociated in different ways, which is normal for a human living in a video game created by a civilisation on the brink of collapse in its memories of the sacred, like non pseudo honouring of peoples sovereignty and freedom, and I still stand by this. However at the same time, I feel that people have come to read my patterns enough that, at least for those following, they totally get they habe to put their human body, their nerves system. First. Groundedness. Earth bound solidarity, fluidity in the here and now. The groundedness comes first, contact with the body. That creates the baseline signal. Meta-awareness through imaginative timelapses as one strong example here, are the wings in the sky for a steady plane trip. I hope my sharing this helps people in both ways. Just a casual mention. Best. Stay safe and peace within @YIDIRYIDIR .
  11. What kind of an addiction? How did that happen?
  12. It's like mutton dressed as lamb only between generations X -> Z
  13. I can see what you are pointing to here, but I have to ask - does this claim hold up or is it based on some large assumptions that can act to strengthen flaws in the argument? The assumptions I see (not an exhaustive list) : intelligence protects against cult involvement the person is honestly attempting to learn exposure to multiple sources automatically reduces the risk of undue influence a cult and independent enquiry are mutually exclusive direct experience is a reliable corrective probability of cult-ic attachment is "highly unlikely" - no evidence supplied for this at all leo is not functioning as a central authority and intellectual sophistication protects people from influence None of the above are guaranteed - and again I am just objectively looking at the argument presented. Teaching critical thinking and epistemology doesn't automatically prevent cult-like dynamics. The question is whether those tools are applied consistently, including to the teacher and the community itself.
  14. I would just like to add one final point, and then I'm done. By using suicidal moments as part of your case to point to psychotic tendencies, you are basically including everyone in the spiritual world. (Because once again, hands up everyone here who has never had a single suicidal moment in their lives.) Therefore it would be best to stick to those other or additional facts you mentioned, in the process of determining psychotic tendencies. So whether or not some supposedly smart psychiatrist thinks that suicidal moments points to psychotic tendencies, if you include that metric, you are basically excluding most spiritual people in the world from being seen as suitable leaders to any group. Because by that very definition then we all have psychotic tendencies here. Suicidal moments can also point to a powerful rebirth, but this is language that most psychiatrists probably wouldn't understand.
  15. Hi @Leo Gura I don’t really like that my IRL name is associated with me talking about drug use publicly. So I’m requesting a username change. Thanks
  16. @Ulax Not really related to the thread, but is it harder to do pick up with ADHD? What's your take on that?

  17. Spiritual Autolysis

    Spiritual Warrior replied to Spiritual Warrior's topic in Self-Actualization Journals

    I am so low energy right now. And insecure. . No one is really here to experience it Just let go of your ego it's not that hard It is hard though, explain how to do it Youre not open to it right now, Yes I am give it to me You would shit yourself Remember when you peed yourself in a car? I am going to overcome anything and everything in my life. My family is going to be glorious But at the same time I don't care what happens Because it's not me doing it And guess what? I don't want kids for a while. I'm not scared I just want Truth before making any big decisions. So I have to let go of the ego. I have to deal with this shit. But I hate being low energy I want to go home in order to restore. But I can't. I have to go move into Ilkers. How about we leave at 10 pm. As you can see I'm having a mental crisis. I do not feel. Anything. They're not my feelings. I just exist. I am beyond the material. I am eternal. I am God. I am existence. I am awareness. I am everything but nothing at the same time. I control my own destiny. Ive never felt such distain for the obvious or thinking that things are obvious.
  18. He's becoming a comedian.
  21. A personal interest of mine is looking into the implications that spiral dynamics has for society and government. A big limitation that tier 1 stages have is the assumption that everyone should just leapfrog to their stage. A key example is El Salvador. A decade ago, this country had a homicide rate of over 100 per 100,000. To get a sense of how outrageously high that is, the US is at 5 per 100,000 overall and St. Louis, the worst American city, was at 43 in 2025. Going back to the previous decade, the worst ever would have been Camden at around 80. The overall rate of El Salvador a decade ago would make it more akin to Mexican cities on the dangerous side such as Tijuana. El Salvador's violent death rate was second to none in the western hemisphere, being dominated by gangs such as MS-13. Everything changed once Bukele became president in 2017. He ran on a platform of making the country safe. He notably ran as a third party candidate, representing Nuevas Ideas (literally new ideas). After becoming president, he implemented a seven phase plan to cleanse the nation of gang violence. Each of these phases were kept secret until they were announced: Increased police presence and cut off all contact between prisons and the outside world Expanded community efforts and scholarships to prevent youth from joining gangs Increased police presence even further and militarized the police. Deployed the military into gang-heavy areas Issued mass arrests for anyone so much as bearing gang tattoos Focused on the root causes of poverty in hopes of keeping them from turning to crime Has yet to be announced as of June 2025 Each spiral stage has a different reaction to Bukele's policies. It's first worth mentioning that the nation-state embodies stage blue principles. This means that societies with lots of red and purple (such as those in Africa) will result in weak governments with lots of corruption. For a stable government, a society that respects the golden rule (introduced at blue) is mandatory. El Salvador had enough people at stage red to make it one of the most dangerous nations on Earth. Individuals at stage blue LOVE Bukele. This stage's main value is self control, with all other values being downstream of it. Self control brings forth rule of law which is necessary for the orange value of individual freedom. It therefore seems to be the reverse of the Benjamin Franklin quote, meaning that ridding society of security results in neither freedom nor security. Those at orange and green question whether the end justifies the means. This is a fair point to make because Bukele has been undermining the country's civil liberties. Furthermore, the justice system has recently adopted the principle of "guilty until proven innocent". It also seems that Donald Trump has taken inspiration from Bukele, adopting the same principle for undocumented immigrants. In tier 2, you realize that El Salvador is under circumstances that are different from rich countries with lots of orange and some green such as the US, Canada, and Sweden. As noted in Why Nations Fail, Latin America developed institutions that were less conducive to modernization than the Anglican offshoots. This difference can be seen within the US between the north and south. There were various differences that led the north to climb higher on the spiral than the south. The northern economy was more dependent on capital vs land for the south. This resulted in better infrastructure The northern labor force consisted of free people who could change jobs if they so wished The north had higher literacy rates The south also prohibited educating slaves for fear that they would use it to challenge the legitimacy of slavery. The northern class system afforded better social mobility than the southern class system which offered almost none Southern chivalry, a stage red value, was common amongst the elite The factors that applied for the south also applied to Latin America. Even to the present day, most of these countries primarily export primary sector goods such as natural resources and crops. Meanwhile, the Anglican offshoots have economies that focus very little on agriculture or resource extraction and much more on industry and services. According to the authors of Why Nations Fail, Mexico has extractive institutions whereas the US has inclusive ones. Stage orange flourished better in Western Europe and the Anglican offshoots than in other parts of the world. And while Latin American countries have liberal values on paper, corruption is a major problem in that part of the world. This is not to mention the numerous coups, occasional civil wars, and organized crime that is endemic in Latin America. This is a long way of saying that the US has things which can be taken for granted that El Salvador did not. Civil liberty cannot exist without rule of law. This is also to say that Donald Trump is a detriment to the US. Donald Trump is in stage red Perhaps the reason why the US has done better than Latin America comes down to a respect for written and unwritten rules as per stage blue. Every president since Nixon has disclosed tax returns and sold assets (or placed then in a blind trust) prior to assuming office. But it was never a written rule, so Trump did neither of those things. And when it came to written rules, Trump pushed boundaries. After leaving office, he took classified documents to his Florida residence with the justification being that since he was president, it wasn't illegal for him to do so. In his second term, Trump has effectively restored the 'spoils system' that was ended after President Garfield got assassinated. This indicates that he values loyalty more than competency Trump has also been accused of instituting a "pay-to-play" administration Then you have Trump calling the 2020 election results illegitimate. The only explanation that I feel needs to be added is the reason why Trump did that. Simply put, whereas blue, orange, and green represent conventional morality and fear hypocrisy the most, red is preconventional and fears weakness the most. In other words, Trump's ego wouldn't let him admit defeat because defeat makes him a loser. Authoritarianism is not the way forward for the US. The US has a small bit of red but is mostly blue and orange with green emerging. A leader in stage red chipping away at civil liberties is going to be a setback. Corruption is not endemic in the US (at least not on the national level) like it was in El Salvador. Trump is also making corruption worse. Authoritarianism may be beneficial to a country with lots of survival values but is unnecessary for one with lots of self-expression values. In summary, there are times when in countries that are low on the spiral, well-managed authoritarianism can be beneficial in establishing order. However, it should be prevented in countries that do not have a lot of stage red or purple. The authoritarianism in the US is a result of orange and green, being deemed by the stage blue evangelicals as worldly and woke respectively.

  22. Spiral Dynamics Stage Blue Examples Mega-Thread

    Spiritual Warrior replied to Leo Gura's topic in Personal Development -- [Main]

    Conspiracy theories are stage blue because they are conformist. Im trying to find stage blue examples that do not have religious elements to it. It's also low on the consciousness scale. It's a lazy way of thinking. A stage orange person would be too busy maximizing his profits to even care about conspiracy theories. And a stage green person would realize that it doesn't matter. A stage yellow person would just find it interesting that A conformist can be doing something different than every one else but still being conformist. A stage turquoise person is on a mountain top contemplating wholeness.
  23. @Natasha Tori Maru I am generally good natured. But, I can flip my lip from time to time which is a character flaw for sure. Especially for this forum and the video catalogue. Gotta stand up for it. But, there is a right and wrong way. I apologize and going forward I will do my best (as usual notice the 13,000 posts) speak with generally respectful words. I see the importance of allowing open dialogue around the nature of the video catalogue, forum, the ideas, concepts, techniques taught in Actualized.org teachings. I would say part of me is still stubborn around having said it, because at the end of the day an intelligent person who honestly tries to learn from Leo isn’t going to end up in a cult. It’s highly unlikely. He teaches studying under many people, reading many books, and getting direct experience. If it’s not true, it’s not real. Simple as that. A cult wouldn’t teach you radical open mindedness, to question everything, to teach consciousness, epistemology, post modernism, philosophy of science, introspection, what it happiness, what is love, 35 fields of self help, etc etc Unfortunately, it is annoying and tiring seeing the disrespectful videos, posts, and threads misleading people and insulting the information that is available here. Calling it a cult, and people insulting them forum etc is foolish to me. Though, I understand why it happens. Actualized.org is a school teaching the pursuit of Truth and pure understanding. The wisdom in the video catalogue is phenomenal. A major problem is I think some of you guys don’t the watch the videos. Forum Leo isn’t like, Leo at his best. Thats light and casual Leo generally unless we ask him a good question well asked. No teacher is perfect clean of self deception 100% of the time, Leo knows that. But, we can do our best.
  24. @Thought Art Heh heh it's okay, I'm a fan. I like em' a bit twisted, touch of the maverick 😈 I fuckup just as much TBH If contrition is shown. And a real attempt to correct behaviour, coupled with receiving critical feedback in a constructive, forward focussed manner - I will always have someone's back. If you're in it to fight and change I got ya. I care less about who a person has been and more about whether they are capable of honest self-correction. I tend to view lack of responsibility, integrity and bigotry as large factors for my own personal low investment and good opinion. The worst is when behaviour does not change but verbal apologies are abundant. Even then, people can remain stubborn for years and then pivot to changing when I least expect it. I am not married to my own judgements. I am pretty comfortable with ambiguity.

  25. New Chapter in My Life: Habits and Disciplines

    Spiritual Warrior replied to Spiritual Warrior's topic in Self-Actualization Journals

    This place isn't what I came here for. I don't want to live a lie anymore. Nothing else matters but truth. But this is your own ego making this a big deal. It wants to feel special. How much should I continue to allow it? And how much should I steer into the flood. And it is flooding. Spilling over with semen. I'm horny right now, been horny. This makes me want to fuck. Real bad. This is a good thing. I haven't had sex in months. Of course I just went through a lot. I had heart surgery. People should feel bad for me.. this is how my ego thinks. He is in shambles at times. He is in shambles right now. Or just lower in the ego developmental ladder. But remember, this is just a sign of development. This is NOT THE REAL THING. THIS IS NOT TRUTH. What am I even doing here?
  26. @Natasha Tori Maru I’m pretty bad. My bad boy era.
  27. How is Elon Musk destroying the planet? If anything he's been one of the forces helping climate change big time by revolutionizing the electric car industry. I think he's doing amazing things although he's not perfect. Falcon 9 reduced the cost of low earth orbit flights by 20x Feel free to shake some of they key points. I think he's one of the top examples that we have today of an impactful life built around life purpose.
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