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Joshe replied to Eskilon's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
TLDR: Intelligence is an activity You can't do two complex things at once (verifiable) 5-MeO doesn't change this You can only be intelligent about what's on the slate Meta-awareness doesn't escape this Intelligence = structuring, manipulating, navigating the abstract It manifests as compressed gestalt "Infinite intelligence" - what does that even mean? They can't answer, tell you to experience it Ask real questions, they shift to character attacks. When people can't escape conceptually, they escape socially. The real explanation: they're high on insight --- Explanation: Intelligence is an activity. Have you ever been able to hold onto some deep awareness of your metaphysics while simultaneously equally engaged with something else complex? No, because consciousness has limited bandwidth. When you try to do it, one thing or the other will always dominate your consciousness. This means you cannot be intelligent in more than one complex domain at a time, because how can you do multiple activities at once??? 5meo does not provide this ability. You can only be intelligent of what is on the slate of consciousness at the time. Since you can't be simultaneously engaged with multiple things at once in a serious way, you can only exercise intelligence upon that one thing. And meta-awareness doesn't escape this - it also competes for bandwidth. Intelligence is something like the ability to structure, manipulate, and navigate the abstract and to see clearly what is happening with the thing on the slate. IME, it manifests as a gestalt of knowing about a particular thing. And it has to be a compressed gestalt where things are just "known" because not many things can be on the slate at once. However, the things in the gestalt are available to be retrieved if you need them, but that process isn't necessarily effortless - like the term "infinite intelligence" implies. This begs the question, what do you mean by "infinite intelligence"? I think no matter how many times you ask it of those who say it, they'll just say they can't tell you what it means and you just have to experience it for yourself. And if you start inquiring with questions like: "When you were "infinitely intelligent," could you solve any mathematical problem instantly?" "Could speak Japanese?" "Did your "infinite intelligence" give you the ability to predict the stock market or see what the cure for cancer was? When these questions come up, there's a pattern of shifting the conversation from substance to your level of development or character, call you silly, assert their hierarchy and tell you to go deeper, etc. To understand the grandiosity behind such claims, I think it helps to realize that some of us can get extremely high on insight and knowledge. Psychedelics can amp this up to 11. This alone likely explains the bulk of it. The honest position is: "I took a substance. My sense of self and limitation dissolved. I felt like I understood everything. It was the most profound experience of my life. When I came back, I couldn't verify or demonstrate any of it, and couldn't even articulate it, but it felt infinite." But obviously, this doesn't give the ego much to work with lol. "Consciousness is infinite" is fine. But "I am infinitely intelligent" is just someone high af with temporary (hopefully) delusions of grandeur. -
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James123 replied to James123's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
İf there is a human, there is God. Only, when all beliefs are surrendered, then the idea of god or human dissapears. And that's what real God is. Stop reading books, listening videos. Knowing the path and walking the path is completely different. -
Eskilon replied to Eskilon's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
You are right, that's a jump. I still dont know that. Beautifully put. I think conciousness and intelligence is a marriage made in heaven, they can't be put apart. Although consciouness(if it is existence) is the only thing that seems to survive all conditions. Even the condition where theres no intelligence. I still need to realize most of the stuff talked here, some I understand intelectually but not at the undeniable level, which I think is at the level of being. -
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No Being horny just means you're healthy I have minimal sex drive, but I also have crippeling insomnia.
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@Leo Gura Understandable. Just wondering are you nowhere close to being done with it? How many words do you think your book will have at minimum? Just wondering. I really love your content and will buy the book AS SOON as you release it! Btw when you have time would you like to make another video on Godel's Incompleteness Theorem on how it is misused by both the religious fundamentals and the materialists and rationalists. Materialists claim that it ONLY applies to arithmetic but are also ok if it applies to legal systems which are more social based than arithmetic so that's a contradiction. The religious fundamentals use it to justify their god of the gaps arguments. Anyway really glad I came across your content as it allowed me to integrate my logical mind into my spiritual journey instead of fighting it 24/7.
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Ah, yes, your word is God! Louisiana the Democratic stronghold! LOL Then what strongholds are you expecting democrats to lose(what this thread is about)? No. We would do even BETTER with her learning basic definitions! You're actually the one trying to use your argument both ways. I'm saying you're holding us back. I'm not saying we can't win with AOC stupidity, YOU are the one saying we can't continue with the sane approach. I'm saying we're fine, but you're the ones holding us back from doing even better. I remember all the Biden merch! Ol' Berntards. LOLz, saying we're a cult for Biden! Who was the 2024 Democrat again, big Raze? Socialist amnesia, or something. This conversa..... is obviously going no where. I didn't mean it to just sling insults. Toodles 🍻 I'm out.
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Having the right to do something is not the same as it being the right move to do something. Even if the aggressor is responsible, its also the responsibility of the leadership of the victims side to mitigate harm and pursue the best outcome, even if it’s unfair.
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That seat is a safe democrat seat democrats win each time No, in reality the establishment democrat supporters are the most cult like of all three groups. You put forward Biden when he was literally barely functioning, they even cancelled the primary essentially and kept pushing the narrative he was fine until it was too late. It wasn’t establishment democrats who first sounded the alarm, it was progressives, and republicans who were just mocking the stupidity of this move. If people vote for party, they aren’t going to vote based on AOC when she doesn’t represent the party. Hillary and Kamala were the representatives and they lost. The dislike of them would have a far greater impact than anyones dislike of AOC. and once again, you try to bring up current recent wins as though that proves your point when as I already told you by your own logic it does the opposire. AOC is still in the party, infact even more far left people like Mamdani are in the party. You somehow blame AOC for democrats losing because she’s in the party, but when she’s in the party and they win that’s proof your side separate from AOC in the party is right. That is bad faith contradictory reasoning I already pointed out to you .
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LambdaDelta replied to Eskilon's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Not necessarily. Oftentimes people that are not particularly intelligent in a traditional sense are better at intuitively knowing that you "shouldn't", for instance, harm others, despite having no logical ground nor a capacity to clearly articulate why. They can simply act selflessly on autopilot. Of course it's equally as common if not more so for them to be selfish as shit. Can be framed in the exact opposite way, deep sleep is basically being unconscious. Existence existing by definition is a logical tautology, but equating consciousness to existence is a leap in reasoning that may or may not be true. Understanding logic and its validity requires intelligence, however its limitations are grasped through consciousness. Yes, although someone conscious of that may not be conscious that they're employing intelligence. Further, they can use intelligence to dismiss the role of intelligence/logic and construct a paradigm where consciousness is more fundamental; a commonplace fallacy within spirituality. What's the difference between being and doing? 'Just being empty' is the only way it has or ever will be, and it takes infinite intelligence (and love/selflessness) to structure reality that way, which is a doing of a sort. You might say Consciousness governs Sameness, Unity, Love; it is implicit. Intelligence governs Difference, Multiplicity, Truth, and is explicit. But that's merely a quick sloppy metaphor. The identity of Consciousness with Intelligence is the same as the identity of Love with Truth. Infinite Love is Unity through Multiplicity; in other words, Equality/Solipsism, which is True, Logical, and Perfect. In the end, all this can be explicated ad infinitum, but requires direct experience to actually grasp, as words are in the business of definition, and reality is Undefined. Nonetheless, definition is fundamental. -
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/campaigns/state/4450463/democrats-upset-trump-districts-louisiana-special-election/ Democrats continue upset streak in Louisiana special election 6 hours ago — Chasity Verret Martinez's win represents a 37-point shift to the left after Trump won the Louisiana House 60 District by 13 points in 2024 Here's our media disadvantage for you I do admit mainstream news is corrupted against us, but it's not a silver bullet. I think you guys are terminally online. Consider 2020 Texas was 52% trump 46% Biden, 3% of the electorate turning blue ties TEXAS Florida was 51 and 48, a 1.5% of voters changing to blue ties it If either of these states go blue, republucans have zero chance. Now, look at north carolina, wisconsin, Pennsylvania, Arizona, all Dem governors, trump barely won. Georgia is in swing territory, .....
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yeah the channel also has a video on xinjiang, definitely propaganda vibes
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Fuck no, I'm mainland chinese and i fully support taiwan, may they never get invaded by china
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kavaris replied to kavaris's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Like, "the waking mind" is a state of shock, in contrast to the frequency of a sleeping mind, as one part of our ability to perceive entails like "does this feel....?" or rather "Does this thing match that other thing?" Like thats one of the most primal first questions before you get to like "Who am i or where am i", like first its about bringing things that are the same together, and trying to see what it means, or what even is a thing. Like we are talking about like, super primitives now, like waking up after an eternity in a place where reality has turned to rubble or something. Like theres no distance that our experience wont take us, and in all of that divergence, the most primal questions of like~before we are receptive to language nd all of that, we are like, trying to compare and contrast rocks, like.. The way it feels to do that is itself an example of what two frequencies matching might feel like~and hopefully it feels right~good and as if you are meant to be there studying rocks like archaeology-esque or watever. That is what it is to exp., or, an example of that which is necessary, if to understand how we first start out. we are never at a far distance from our first experience, but weve added confusion layers on top of it that make it seem like its at a distance. Like to die is to be at that beginning of matching up them rocks again, as if a prior had never happened. i could go on but let me stop there or well be here for an eternity talking. -
Eskilon replied to Eskilon's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Me? Its true that I cant find myself in any specific place, but that realization is not profound yet like the recognition in a dream... -
Hojo replied to Eskilon's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
@Eskilon You dont exist to get it. Try to find yourself, not with language, try to point to yourself with your intelligence. What knows the dream isnt real in lucid dreaming? -
Eskilon replied to Eskilon's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
That's the thing, I can see that there's no difference between my life and my dreams at night. However, this is not at the level of knowing, its at the level of the intellect, it makes sense, but is not undeniable beyond a shadow of doubt. When you suddenly become lucid at your nightly dreams theres a deep, deep knowing that that shit isnt real, its not at the level of thinking or making sense, you just know and it is undeniable(and also only you know no other dream character know, they will even act scared if you tell them lol). I havent been able to do this with this dream(life) yet, if it is indeed a dream... -
Hojo replied to Eskilon's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
@EskilonThe off state is actually behind everything you see too. Behind your monitor of phone or wall is the same off state you see when you close your eyes. Now you are dreaming. -
(Warning: This is yet another long one, but its worth the journey) Theres something that i think we noticed that we may have not put enough attention towards the other day, which is like this thing, where if you sleep and put on (like a video) something that would be otherwise more engaging, or more enticing to you while awake, it is less perceptible and interpretable within a sleeping mind. But on that same token, if you have it where that same video is being recited in a form thats more focused/attentive to the consistency of the frequency or like the quality and properties of the sound~while still retaining the richness of the language, then the sleeping mind is interpreting it in a way where its like, sinking in, and in a way that compliments the overall story of the dream. its kindve like how "sex" and "violence" was used to get people attention in the realm of movie making. the consistent frequency is like that for dreams, as it goes beyonder just a meditative or questioning mind (?) 🧠 like it goes into a place where your mind goes beyond "grounding" or interpretations to justify what is happening. that is, the frequency of what is happening has more voice, or more *say in what the dream is tryina do, where its tryina go, like its like a second voice in the dream~or a companion. Or in other words, its not disturbing and destroying the entire 'quality' of the dream (that is assuming that youve found wat im calling a consistent frequency, which really could be anything) Like, even if you are in a somewat of a nightmare while asleep, notice that the idea of "nightmarish things" has a very different meaning while in a dream. And so, that is to say that you are not scared because scary things are happening, you are scared because the frequency either isnt complimentary or its not there at all, like being locked in a room of silence, like... You are scared when the frequencies dont match~so to speak. And so just to reiterate, the way we interpret in a dream is not that different from being awake, but the frequency or vibration is so different that we are sortve like, in a state of shock by those layers—sometimes subconscious layers, that enter into the dream layer. When, what we want, what we truly desire are consistent layers, which is what everything is in its most settled form is suppose to be like (not to conflate that with like, infinite peace or silence). The opposite is actually silence and peace, like the modern notions of meditation are confusing silence w/ a meditative mind, but silence and like, things that disrupt silence like loud BANGs, are ingredients towards staggering that natural frequency. So anyone thats into meditation, yas have to investigate "frequency" in general, as yous are missing an entire half of the story, which, without it, cripples meditation and dreaming, and everything else, as the quality of everything depends on deepening your understanding of the layered onion that is frequency (consider thay frequency doesnt imply a single note, as its made of harmonics, layers, and layers and layers of harmonics @ degress that we are not always perceiving or open to). Your daily food4 thought. Thank you for listening.
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Eskilon replied to Eskilon's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Good analogy, it makes sense. -
Hojo replied to Eskilon's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
@EskilonThink of your POV like a monitor looking out. You are inside the monitor and your pixels are currently lit up. You see intelligence light colours and forms. You close your eyes and see conciousness. Nothing, the off state of the monitor that is still there while the monitor is on and its still there when the monitor turns off. -
Eskilon replied to Eskilon's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Elegant🍷 -
Ramasta9 replied to Eskilon's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
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Well said, I had a similar childhood and have taken a similar path. To attain knowledge we add things everyday, but wisdom comes from removing / deleting things. So much more peace without social media, tv, news/politics, gossip, small talk, then true richness and wealth arises from inside out. At the end of the day, you gotta smile first to make the reflection / universe smile back, if you wanna make a change, it all starts with the man in the mirror. Ironically, one of my favorite songs as a child was Man in the mirror by Michael Jackson, and yet i only ever realized the full depth and meaning of it when i woke up to myself again. This forums and utube is the only thing I am using at the moment, otherwise its me, myself and eye and ironically, i find even more peace not using this and sometimes even the utube can have a drug-like effect too. When i am not in the city, i just camp in the woods and read books, meditate, commune with nature, its a completely different level of being and peace and far richer than anything in the modern drugged out world.
