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Willy Phallicus replied to Oppositionless's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Buddhism is just another flavor of the kool aid we're all drinking. There is no one correct path. Buddhist teachings and philosophy (the old stuff) does the trick for some people. Its good stuff. Its not without its value but its worthless to people who cant think for themselves. -
Finally an excellent example! More of this, less BS.
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@something_else a boss pays your salary, you don't voluntarily take their lead. A women decides every moment if she wants to be lead by you or not, she can go and have sex with another guy any moment and the funny thing is, when you are not in lead and she is leading, then she probably is already having sex with another guy right now who she does desire. Where did I say you can't listen to her? I am not saying to not consider different points of views, but you don't bend and fold and let go of control. You can be in control while considering other perspectives. I am a performer so I am very aware of what happens when you let go of control of a crowd, you know what happens? Chaos, disaster and someone will actually take over your show (heckler). I have seen the exact same happen in relationships.
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This video popped up on my feed a few times, but I glossed over it. I only just watched it now after you posted. Jesus, the level of conformity and groupthink in this community is astonishing. I used to live in NYC and never even knew it was THIS bad.
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Yes. Oblique thinking is a way of getting around the limitations of finite symbols and langauge. For example, to say something of God while knowing as you say it that that's not entirely what is being meant. You can use a symbol while mentally noting that that symbol is not really what you mean. It is a diliberate slipperiness to language. It is a way of grappling with high levels of abstraction without breaking the abstraction by making it explicit.
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@Olaf This is not being a leader, this is being manipulative, and borderline controlling. Being a leader doesn’t mean telling someone all of their ideas are wrong. Imagine your boss at work did this to you, how would you feel? Would you want him as your leader/boss? No, you’d fucking hate your life and you’d hate him Being a leader (in all contexts, not just dating) is about including all perspectives, making people feel heard, being competent, making people feel safe and secure, bringing out the best in others, allowing them to shine, reducing their mental load, decision making, confidence etc. This mindset of “I am a leader therefore we always do things MY way, and it’s my way or the highway” is precisely how you make people not want to follow you. It is the stereotypical cringy alpha male mindset who feels he has to try hard to assert his dominance.
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Yimpa replied to Cocolove's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
If 10 years have gone by in only 2 days i’m so 💀 -
@Leo Gura Appreciate it. To take a stab at it... Oblique thinking can look like abstract implicit thinking about things like: Bias, Ego, Love, Intelligence, Survival, Consciousness ? It appears you are pointing to working with implicit knowledge without ever 100% anchoring down into explicit domain. Without letting the thought harden into a finite symbol or metaphor. Perhaps thinking about things that are from the absolute, direct experience, in which language cannot capture. Lets say with thinking about God/Infinity, where thinking about God will never capture it because thinking is finite, and God is infinite. This would be the domain of thinking that is beyond language or beyond symbolic that we don't (yet) have symbols for or never will have symbols for...?
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And the funny thing is that women are always complaining "why are men not leading? ", they literally hate your guts for following her. It is both for you and her. Most people are reactive, both guys and girls, very few are actually leading and grounded. You want to irritate a woman, ask her "where are we gonna eat tonight? What restaurant? What should I eat on the menu?".
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It's hard to articulate. Typical thinking is direct and explicit because it deals with concrete things. Oblique thinking is a way of thinking that is deliberately not so explicit but nebulous because it is handling nebulous things which it does not want to define. Most scientific thinking stupidly tries to define everything, ending up over-defining things. Oblique thinking recognizes that problem and avoids being too explicit. It's more fuzzy and intuitive. For example, when you think about infinity, you want to be careful not to think about it too concretely as that ruins it. Typical thinking is like looking Medusa straight in the eyes and turning to stone. Oblique thinking is looking at Medusa without looking directly at her. Sure. Typical thinking is like driving on well-paved roads and highways. True thinking is like driving off-road. First you learn to drive on the highway, once you master that you can venture off-road. Most humans never go off-road. Deconstruction eventually ends in complete autonomy of mind, where you can think fully independently of what anyone else has thought. You can invent entirely new domains of thought. In order to do that you need to understand how all current ways of thinking are just arbitrary and nothing more than social convention. Your average scientist does not understand how science is a human construction. He thinks science is concretely real. So he cannot think beyond it. To think in new ways requires seeing that the old ways aren't reality but just human conventions. For example, your typical scientist thinks that you can't do science on God. But you can realize that you can, just in other ways. You have to unearth and see through all the assumptions that ground conventional human views of things.
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Great insight on momentum. I intuited this for myself, and I appreciate it being underlined so explicitly. Just running that state non-stop. I notice there are days where I am more social because I have this felt momentum behind me. I also appreciate the insight around focusing on adding value. I will have to contemplate that more during sets in what that looks like. Adding energy, compliments, storytelling, humour, valuable information, etc.
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I disagree. Approaching 100 girls in a weekend whilst a beginner is definitely real work
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@something_else it is not abusive it is being a leader, I am not the one promoting to control girls like andrew tate, infact that is unattractive to woman, if you are always controlling and jealous like Andrew Tate. I am talking about controlling the conversation, which is leading instead of following, following orders is the beta male fantasy. Like the beta male dreams to be a dog with a chain and the woman giving him orders, you know like those kinky things lol.
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@Leo Gura I was studying your definitions of the aspects of intelligence from your Lecture "How Socialization Makes You Stupid - Problems With Conformity & Group-Think" Is it feasible for you to drop some hints as to what is "oblique thinking?" Side Note: Also, it appears that upgrading my thinking comes from deconstructing models of thinking I have picked up from my education/culture? Like Deconstructing rationalism, science, etc. Like doing that epistemology with a fine toothed comb will slowly free up my thinking to more intelligent thinking and understanding of Reality.
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@shenanigans That's quite romantic actually, writing a whole Novel about me...dm me if you wanna hit lol (don't)
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@Olaf Excellent. Good work!
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😭 Bad Bad!
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Why don’t you just skip a few steps and start posting Andrew Tate content 😂 You sound like an abusive boyfriend. I don’t think you are, but that is the path you are on with this mindset
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Yimpa replied to Oppositionless's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
“I don’t mind.” -
cjoseph90 replied to ZenSwift's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Amazing! where did it take place exactly? - Today
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Willy Phallicus replied to Oppositionless's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
By having a shitty experience obviously. That way you can define healthy and unhealthy and take it into your next universal rebuild. Make no mistake, this is a learning experience but you kinda haveta learn the hard way. -
Yimpa replied to Oppositionless's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
The reason is YOU! -
Oppositionless replied to Oppositionless's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Yeah I wonder how to learn to love something healthier. Hmmm. @Yimpa the reason i laughed was I was expecting an explanation from Leo on how to be attractive and instead got just ridicuolous no fucks given smile and dance. -
That's the dudes fault. Im all for women being fully autonomous but not when my autonomy is the price. There's a balance in there somewhere. Cant live with em, cant live without em and that's a two way street.
