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Jordan of the Shire replied to Majed's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Disclaimer: You want to be careful with drugs while doing spiritual practices. The shen, the upper energetic qualities, and the consciousness quality, can become distorted, deluded, and sick. You can develop Qi deviations which can cause psychosis, onsets, dragon sicknesses, kundalini sickness, etc. When you open everything up and start making changes, then eek. You could end up spending the next 10 years looking for a doctor -
The irony here is hard to ignore, Natasha. You invoked the Dunning-Kruger effect to imply I suffer from uncalibrated overconfidence—yet when asked to demonstrate the mechanics of your own premise, you retreated into 'me telling you isn't going to provoke insight.' Using a psychological label to claim intellectual superiority, but then refusing to articulate or defend the underlying logic when pressed, is the literal definition of the dynamic you're trying to project onto me. If you have a coherent framework for why solitude inherently yields deeper truth than complex relational experience, I'm all ears and genuinely open to the model. But if the position is just 'I know something you don't, but I won't explain it,' then there's no actual substance there to inspect.
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Nothing to do with what I said.
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Jordan of the Shire replied to Majed's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
This way of viewing Karma is not quite on point. You'll end up creating more Karma by putting yourself in states of chronic delusion, creating addiction, and fueling trauma in yourself and others. If you have a craving that you cannot control and cannot get yourself out of, this is different. Then observing the craving, the state, and addiction while youre in it, observing from the knowing quality, contemplating it, this is a way to get out of the craving... and guess what... that's similar to anything. The way to burn karma is to realize there is no self and cease identifying with your body and mind. There are slow ways to do this, ie. Making the mistakes. Or fast ways to do this, ie. penetrating reality with insight through empowered concentration, virtue, and wisdom. As well as grounded embodiment practices. There are 3 types of craving. Craving for becoming, non becoming, and not wanting things to end. When you crave for becoming, often you're craving for the non-becoming of something else. They are not mutually exclusive, meaning, they don't cancel eachother out. The satisfaction you're looking for - release from karma - comes through wisdom. -
Willy Phallicus replied to JoshB's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
The point was this forum isn't the bastion of enlightenment (or epistemic rigor) one may expect it to be and since that's the case you shouldn't be surprised to see the level of resistance you do when you strip all the superfluous bullshit away from "The Good News". But then again maybe you put it here for that very reason. You tell me. -
Here's the assumption again Me telling you isn't going to provoke a genuine insight. And your intellect appears to tell you something else.
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LordFall replied to MediumKahuna's topic in Society, Politics, Government, Environment, Current Events
The phrase AIPAC funded campaign should be political death in 2026, hopefully the US has evolved enough recently that it becomes so. -
Feel free to elaborate. By ourselves we barely exist so I'm not sure what part you disagree with. Consciousness is a phenomena that grows with exposure to reality, it doesn't thrive in isolation. I think temporary solitude to recharge or to absorb social experiences makes sense but hermits are pretty low consequence individuals that don't achieve much. Maybe they have a great relationship with themselves but they aren't very high quality partners by definition so I mean it hardly makes for an effective dating strategy.
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We are part of evolution silly. Unless you aren't using a computer or phone like I am but are using a smoke signal or telepathy to write forum posts then you truly have transcended my level.
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@LordFall It is reasonable to infer from what I said - there is an assumption behind that requires inspection.
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That's a shame, God made many little mini yous running around that you can also befriend and work together with to reach mutual goals and have a fun life together!
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@Basman awesome! I did that too! I actually saw all kinds of monsters and I discovered that if I focus on the monster closely and don't close my eyes, I can will the monster to fade away and become nothing. If I close my eyes, then I start feeling pressure on my body and sometimes it feels like hands wrapping around my arms. Some of the monsters I saw included the following. Shadow figures, mechanical clowns but oddly not the one from poltergeist that most assume, ghosts, my grandma as a vampire, general grievous from Star wars which actually looked terrifying when you see that thing for real but he then transformed into the door near my bed, a redead from the legend of zelda who I escaped by flying out of my body and into a zelda like dungeon except this one had an elephant in it, and a demonic symbol with my sister smiling at me along with another nightmare with my sister storming into my room angrily. I remember one of the shadow figures looked like a girl from school who grabbed my penis and the nightmare was about her coming to my bed while I couldn't move. Meanwhile, my older sister would often yell, scream, and badger me for hours on end to the point that I would freeze, shock, have nightmares, and so forth as I tried walking on eggshells to prevent catastrophe. Sometimes I talk in my sleep. I started talking about Cindy who died by suicide. I also noticed that I can consciously control my dreams by forcing myself awake by focusing my awareness on my eyelids while noticing that I am still seeing images despite my eyelids being closed. Alternatively, I can start rewinding my dreams and going back in time to earlier parts in it which delays it enough for new content to pop up. I ended up in the Simpsons in one of these dreams. It kind of looked like that arcade game with bart doing a long essay. I also remember a really fun one in which I played the role of Sherlock Holmes, working together with Harry Potter to defeat Darth Vader. Sometimes I would go back in time or reload to the previous checkpoint when I was losing. In the end we defeated Darth vader by collapsing a building as Harry summoned his broomstick, allowing us to jump on and escape. I do remember there was a really annoying level with Malfoy though who had dementors helping him and that part was a pain in the ass which required going back to previous checkpoints to make sure I clicked the buttons at the right time. I also had this other epic zelda like dream in which I was fighting these mutant insects with fire swords. There was a gold skulltula in it, but the best part is when I figured out how to beat the game. Once I got to the main villain, he said "if you want to stop them, then you need to hit pause." My girlfriend was like "hit pause? What is this some kind of videog-" Then a pause menu came up and I scrolled down to quit. I selected quit. Then I woke up. There was also this epic dream in which I fought the British who were red coats on unicycles with assault rifles in attack formation. I used a flamethrower on one of them. Eventually I ran away and one of them got my flamethrower. He then started chasing me while shooting fire at me yelling "get back here you bloody bastard!" Eventually I got away from though. Many of my comrades were lost in that brutal battle. I felt like I was going to pee myself, but I woke up in time to go to the bathroom. There was also this really epic one in which my high school principal tried to execute me because the second paragraph of my essay sucked so badly that I was a dishonor to my school and I deserved to die for the bad paragraph on my essay. I woke up flailing my arms and legs and then I whited out the second paragraph for fear that my teacher would ruin my life over confessing my love for Alice. The essay prompt was to write about people who inspire you, so I wrote about someone who makes life feel meaningful but was afraid I would be hanged for it.
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Hojo replied to Meeksauce's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
@Meeksauce your mind has already been there before. We've probably been to hell if it exists, 1000s of times. We are eternal. -
I just don't see how it applies in the situation. We were talking about relationships as a vehicle for growth and then you said that perhaps polyamory is a way to distract from our inner truth. Then you quoted my line on if we are left to our own devices we aren't much. Which makes a lot of sense to me, a human without its environment first of all cannot exist but even if it can it would have a limited experience of reality. We learn to exposure to the universe which perhaps can be called the higher self if we use non-dualistic terminology. Until we have multiple experiences with that greater self we literally cannot speak, barely think and well are limited creatures. That is why I think that over a 10 year period if one was polyamorous vs single vs in a monogamous relationship I think the polyamorous people will experience the greatest growth in inner truth and self-knowledge over the other two situations.
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@integral TBH I have been having concern for you in my meditation sessions lately - well - shall we say, every time I divert attention from breath or bodyscanning, thoughts of how you are doing after losing your dog flirt with my consiousness. I hope you are doing better, getting easier
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Natasha Tori Maru replied to Natasha Tori Maru's topic in Off-Topic: Pop-Culture, Entertainment, Fun
@bazera ARGH >.< I feel cringe in my body as a contraction of my shoulders and neck, facial strain and an internal recognition of second hand embarrassment stemming from my own judgement. I find cringe interesting, as my experience of it has been reduced similar to yourself - I now have a high tolerance for it. But I still detect it. I think it is an interesting and often overlooked experience tbh. People seem to want to drop it as soon as it arrives. I prefer to test my limits of the cringe experience -
@LordFall Exactly as said - Dunning-Kruger effect. You don't know what you don't know.
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Yeah that's why I think becoming a high value man is so important. If you're a random dude with average value you can still do it but then I think you'll have a lot more headaches and random drama happening to you because you aren't really a source of stability or abundance you're just there and choosing to put yourself in a high complexity relationship without much to back it up. I'm bisexual. Dominating other men non sexually and sexually is quite fun. My desire for many women is separate from that but perhaps related idk psychology is deep. I think it would just be a lot of fun and growth for everyone involved. How so?
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Meeksauce replied to Meeksauce's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
More like driven absolutely insane to the fullest extent. Nobody's mind would survive that. -
The Dunning-Kruger effect.
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What if you found out that your whole desire for many woman was actually a deep-rooted want to dominate a man and you are actually gay.
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Its hard enough to near impossible to please 1 woman. 2 or 3 or 4 you will end up in so much bs you will drown. Unless they listen to you. You need very submissive women. They pretty much have to be conservative olden style women or I don't see it working. Unless you are extremely loaded.
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MediumKahuna replied to MediumKahuna's topic in Society, Politics, Government, Environment, Current Events
Abdul El-Sayed just won his $6M campaign vs Haley Stevens' $64M AIPAC funded campaign. If that ain't a victory I don't know what is. -
Tampering with billions of years of evolution is not a healthy idea.
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I agree to a point. I think this concept of self-knowledge and inner truth is a bit overplayed though. The self grows and reacts to outside stimulus. If we are left to our own devices then we aren't much. At best our minds just take us down interesting paths ala daydreaming but the self and the world are meant to be explored together IMO and so that's why I think the self would grow immensely through polyamory and thus it can also serve as a path of self exploration that will lead to more interesting insights than living like a hermit IMO.
