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  2. @Natasha Tori Maru I think that those 2 quotes explain my point . The first one is from nisgardatta the second from Hawkins. The one of nisgardatta is the perfect definition of enlightenment. I just found it and I think that this quote is the best one in all the spiritual quotes. The second is also good. When the 'I Am' dissolves into the Absolute, all traces of individuality disappear, but what remains is not the emptiness of a corpse. It is the original source of all life, a state of pure dynamism and unlimited potentiality that needs no witnesses to exist. In that state, you are not conscious of being alive; you are Life itself flowing, a fullness so massive that the birth and death of entire universes are merely tiny bubbles rising to the surface of your own being. The presence of Reality is not felt as a continuous electric shock, but as a background of intrinsic vitality. The physical world is perceived as a hyperrealistic high-definition film, where every object shines with the energy of its own being. The observer has become transparent; there is no longer anyone there 'watching,' only the unfolding of existence.

  3. Leo's Blog Discussion Mega-Thread

    Leo Gura replied to Leo Gura's topic in Personal Development -- [Main]

    Of course he wasn't. That is his problem, not mine. With a mind as dense as his, it is not possible to know God.
  4. I think I didnt get it, even I read 3 times. Anyway, the point was I'm consciousness vs I'm the fact of being conscious of the nature of what I am. Reality is not "I", but I am is an intrinsic property of reality that is happening. What reality is is the whole not a creator. If you make the schema dreamer/dream you are closing the possibility or real openess , and that's essential if you want real enlightenment, and you should want it if you are in this topic, because the intermediate point, the solipsist dreamer , the belief of "I'm consciousness", "what I really am is the screen where the experience happens", is a closure and leads to inner isolation
  5. That's the usual scientific explanation and what we've been told but it is not universally true. From my understanding and experience, it can be renewed and circulated without 'excess' building up from how well one circulates / transforms > sexual energy. On a grander scheme of things yes, when you shift your consciousness, your vibration / physiology changes too, because every change is a total change on a quantum level. DNA activation is real and highly misunderstood. My argument is: as one ascends, things and how things work often change too. A frugivores diet consists of predominantly fruit with the occasional additions of greens, vegetables, nuts, seeds ect... but purely fruitarian is also a thing and many thrive on this diet too and show little to no deficiencies as the friend I mentioned above, but there are also those who do, we have to find what works best for us. In my experience, education and experience is key, recovering lost knowledge and ideal living conditions of ancient times and how to cultivate that diet and lifestyle and find the middle ground with modern life, which can be very challenging, but still very doable, and the reason why is yes, because we humans are originally a frugivores species, but are also capable and have adapted to utilize other foods when needed. Fruit is the perfect food for man that does not need to be changed or heated or treated in anyway for it to digest optimally unlike most other foods. It is one of the only types of food we humans eat today that needs no flavour, salts, additions to make it palatable, rather it is perfect as it is, especially when properly tree-ripened and not picked unripe and shipped across the globe like most fruit is today. The very fact that we have to denature, cook, process something to eat it, shows this is not ideal food but secondary or emergency food like meat, grains and animal products. I think only raw goats milk is closer to the human breast milk, but then even you have the coconut milk which is almost perfect for us and far less chance of bacterial infection that can come from animal products. Also we addict ourselves to meat because no sensible human enjoys warm raw flesh and blood and bone from a teared up furry animal, but rather is highly cooked, oiled, salted and flavoured (with herbs) that we crave, not the meat itself. Its mostly the salt really, that's why salt is dangerous and i don't consume it. It acts like a drug and tricks us to enjoy a food we wouldn't usually naturally like, like rice for example, try eat it without salt or flavour, see how far you go. Rice and grains came much later and known as poor mans food. I have said this many times but put a baby in a room with all types of food and some animals to play with, never it will choose any food over the fruit and never the child will kill and eat the animal, it does not have that capacity naturally built-in, it is learned, and even when learned and programmed to do so, it never feels right for anyone, unless your a psychopath of course. If something has a will to live, who are we to kill it. These foods like meat, tubers, grains ect.. all came later when humans were forced out of the tropics or sub-tropical environments millions of years ago, and were forced to consume other things that they needed to find special preparations (like cooking, fermenting ect..) to utilize them without serious consequences, because we were not originally intended nor designed by nature to consume such things. For me it is no longer what i "think" but what is absolutely clear and evident that we are frugivores, it is by far a "knowing" than a mere 'thought' or 'belief', and this is decades of research and self-experimentation in these fields. The book Return to the Brain of Eden by Tony Wright goes in depth on this subject and how we got to where we are today but that website i already linked in my previous post explains a lot more briefly already, you just have to read through it and be open minded, then cross-reference from there https://frugivorebiology.com/tropical-fruits-key-to-health/ I never take supplements for years now because i realized i never need them from previous blood-work. Its another modern medicine / industry scam and you only need them when you consume wrong and processed foods with chemical additives to begin with that make your body malfunction. My B12, Iron, Omega 3, 6, 9 levels, protein, creatine, and sodium are mostly within normal ranges, and I believe its because i consume mostly organic food and expose myself to natural daily (walking barefoot, touching trees, working on the garden, bathing in rivers ect...) which is abundant in B12 and B12 does not directly come from food but from bacteria in the soil, air and atmosphere and many suffer from all these modern deficiencies today not because the food is lacking but because of the wide array of chemicals in the food they consume and the environment they are exposed to daily which gradually destroys the gut so people are not circulating and absorbing the iron, b12 and other essentials, hell even garlic and onion can be lethal to the gut micro-flora and this is why a lot of people who eat meat and animal products are also deficiency. Yet you go into villages or tribes far away from chemical warfare or modern society with truckloads of pollutants in the atmosphere, you will find regardless of the diet, little to no deficiency issues, yet we in the city who think we are advanced and superior constantly need to visit the doctors and nutritionists for new meds and supplements, eventually you'll connect the dots that an artificial system does not and cannot work, only nature truly works long term and is the safe route home. https://frugivorebiology.com/b12-microbiome/ https://frugivorebiology.com/coprophagy/ Hope this helps
  6. @Breakingthewall nevermind. You are misunderstanding me, or I am failing to make my point clear. Forget about it. There was no criticism of you or what you said in my post.

  7. Principles for navigating stupidity

    Natasha Tori Maru replied to trenton's topic in Personal Development -- [Main]

    What are you getting out of labelling someone stupid? Notice that it's rarely about just intellect. There is an emotional and social function going on as well. Watch that the label itself doesn't stunt curiosity. Intelligence is often domain specific.
  8. I didn't deviate of the point a millimeter . I told Davino that his vision is still that the reality is an individual due his use of the words dream and dreamer. I told him this to make him see it, not to lower him. It's very subtle and important point if you are really interested in breaking the last barrier
  9. That's an interesting topic, I think the dark night of the soul is when someone has moments of openness to the totality and then realizes that the things they clung to for psychological survival, like the pursuit of success, superficial relationships, etc., are empty. But at the same time, their connection to the totality blurs and disappears, leaving them in a no-man's-land, trying to reconnect or open themselves to the absolute, but this doesn't happen, and they see no substance in what once sustained them. What this person seeks is the transparency of their psychological structure to the "divine," the vitality of the reality, so that it permeates their experience at all times, but they still have closing mechanisms that they can't identify or deactivate.
  10. Most everyone has some sort of domain specific mastery where they display intelligence. We always have some areas we are stupid in. There is some Einstein quote about fish we all know yadda yadda
  11. I didn't claim that it was in anyway unclear. I just remarked on how different definitions can be at play and usually we deviate after a point.

  12. Principles for navigating stupidity

    LastThursday replied to trenton's topic in Personal Development -- [Main]

    The root cause of friction is a mismatch of worldviews. To break it down, what typically happens in this situation is: You reinforce your worldview with words or violence - they may do likewise Their arguments are persuasive and you change your worldview Your arguments are persuasive and they change their worldview You avoid each other That's politics in a nutshell. The hardest paths are 2 and 3. But nearly never will you change worldviews through reason alone. People hold on to worldviews primarily through upbringing, religion, identity, emotion. Basically, people's worldviews are not built through reason, but through experience. Breaking through that is a hard ask. Intelligence and education hardly comes into it.
  13. Wasn't Jesus a carpenter?
  14. I think that what I said is clear and that Davino understood it .
  15. This hasn't been true in my experience.
  16. I just used mouthwash - the industrial kind. @integral I've failed you.
  17. Over all when "awakening" is just an history that they tell to themselves. Spirituality is where the narcissists find their last refuge.

  18. "intimacy"

    Judy2 replied to Judy2's topic in Self-Actualization Journals

    i went for a morning run outside and managed 8km in 48 minutes (if the GPS on my phone is accurate at all, that is), which is my new personal record. i know people do run marathons and ultramarathons, but it's probably good for me to be able to be proud of my own progress:) the yellow rapeseed fields have been replaced by red poppy flowers by now, and in general, just being out in nature is a healing influence i appreciate very much. looking at the grasses and wildflowers, and a little baby rabbit that ducked down and tugged in its ears when it saw me pass by. the airplanes in the sky above.

  19. Half-thoughts

    Jirh replied to Jirh's topic in Self-Actualization Journals

    I'm so tired. I'm hurt. I'm done.
  20. Oil painting.
  21. Thats the ultimate move that can make you win any argument instantly here
  22. No Im not, what im saying is that there is a variety thats never appreciated and acknowledge here - from God being absolute you cant deduce that God is love and that God is non-agential and other stuff. None of those things trivially follows from God being absolute so there is clearly an underdetermination and variety problem there. You can have an infinite number of different positions affirming that Consciousness is absolute and then disagree on other details. Yeah but all of that is applicable to any other paradigm as well (they can claim that they are true and it doesnt matter what issues you cook up against them, because whats true is true regardless your issues and criticisms against them). Also notice that all of you are making arguments against other paradigms using proxies other than just an appeal to truth (sometimes you guys appeal to internal contradictions and appeal to your own seemings and to your experiences etc). If you make that kind of "it doesnt matter how many unexplained brute facts are in your paradigm" move then a physicalist can just say that "It doesnt matter that I cant explain Consciousness, because its just a fact of the matter that Consciousness is just emergent from physical processes, but dont ask me how and why, because it doesnt matter how, what matters is just whats true bro". And even further anyone can say against solipsism ,that "it doesnt matter how many assumptions I make, because there isn't any rule in reality that making more assumptions makes my view less probable, because what matters is just whats true bro". There isn't any apriori rule in reality that only the things that can be validated by direct experience is whats true, unless you assume that to be the case. You cant escape this, but for some reason none of you question this and for some reason you guys think that you guys are some profound deep thinkers and spiritually ascended beings who are better and more developed than other people and you think you managed to escape and solve these problems. What you guys call "direct experience" is what christians call "revelation" and none of you will accept that, because that goes against your "direct" experience. But we can find other religions and paradigms that has its own unique ways to justify why its allowed to beg the question against other views. (I know at least one christian who used 5meo DMT btw to become a Christian). Appealing to direct experience wont solve this, because again other mystical traditions can have direct experience as the main epistemic foundation from which everything is built, but they will disagree with each other on which things or experience should be categorized as direct experience.

  23. Leo's Blog Discussion Mega-Thread

    UnbornTao replied to Leo Gura's topic in Personal Development -- [Main]

    @zurew Just say that it is your direct experience whenever you make an argument here. Seriously though, belief is a fascinating topic.
  24. Evil, Lol.
  25. Today

  26. Trip Report - On Healing with 4-HO-MET

    Davino replied to reves's topic in Psychedelics

    The trip also had 5mg of DPT and 5mg of 5-MeO-Malt as an homeopathic dose. The main dish: 20mg 4-HO-MET and 20mg DMXE dissociative. I had a profound Awakening into Love, tears rolled through my eyes like rivers.
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