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  2. Remember that Actualized.org is just scaffolding. You have to do the direct inquiry, contemplation, and create the direct realizations on your own. Leo's work is like a cheat sheet in the back of a textbook. Very helpful, and you can even learn a lot from it, but ultimately you have to arrive at the conclusions by performing the proofs yourself. Taking your sovereignty back on every single piece of understanding that you have is a HUGE endeavor, which is why actualized.org serves as a great map. It takes a large amount of diligent work to really get this stuff working wonders for you. Profound curiosity about reality is required.
  3. @Joshe I’m open to a ‘round 2,’ perhaps with a mod and definitely with proper clarification. I have previous examples as well, unfortunately some of the threads have been deleted. They’re reconstructible through the forum index, though. I plan on sharing some of that in the future. Here’s the concrete example I’m looking at from this exchange: I tried to clarify the topic before the stream > that was framed as me creating “exit ramps.” Disputed framing > I question/clarify it > clarification gets treated as evasion > the disputed framing is later assumed as established > my failure to follow it becomes proof that I evaded. Afterward Kyle says the agreed topic was specifically for me to define and demonstrate my value in my own life > but that definition of the agreement is itself what I had been trying to clarify beforehand. Disputed framing > I question/clarify it > clarification gets treated as evasion > the disputed framing is later assumed as established > my failure to follow it becomes proof that I evaded. And even in this exchange: Kyle says the next debate should have a clearly defined thesis > I ask whether that means ours wasn’t clearly defined > he says it was clearly defined > then defines it in the exact way I had been disputing and trying to clarify beforehand > my refusal to follow that framing becomes proof that I evaded it. Disputed framing > I question/clarify it > clarification gets treated as evasion > the disputed framing is later assumed as established > my failure to follow it becomes proof that I evaded. That’s the kind of loop I mean. The conclusion depends on accepting the very premise I was disputing, while disputing the premise becomes evidence for the conclusion. I’ve been going back through the interactions pretty carefully to make sure I’m not forcing that pattern onto them. If you think there’s still a step missing there, what would you want to see demonstrated more concretely?
  4. And will there be an audiobook version narrated by the creator of said book
  6. This is actually funny af to me. Lol no cringe detected, but if I created it myself, I’d probably see it that way.
  7. I don't get the sense that Brendan is very high-consciousness. No offense to him, it's just what I observe. If Peter Ralston isn't the main presenter, I don't think it's worth it.

  8. Leo's Blog Discussion Mega-Thread

    Magnanimous replied to Leo Gura's topic in Personal Development -- [Main]

    Leo how far through the book are you right now?
  9. Sounds like an awesome round 2. Lol

  10. best Leo's video when tripping on shrooms

    musicalwatch replied to musicalwatch's topic in Psychedelics

    Haha I don;t even have a bedsheet. Just straight piss on the matress ))

  11. best Leo's video when tripping on shrooms

    Yimpa replied to musicalwatch's topic in Psychedelics

    @musicalwatch Nice! I peed my bed a couple weeks ago. Thank God for mattress protectors)

  12. best Leo's video when tripping on shrooms

    musicalwatch replied to musicalwatch's topic in Psychedelics

    I also pissed my bed by the way while listening to Alan Watts. I can't remember much except for increased heartbeat and the feeling like I am going to die now. Then letting go. Idk. It was badass but I am not doing it again for a while
  13. @Leo Gura 4, it has a classic, elegant look that's easy to read and gives quotes a thoughtful, literary feel. Another way to choose cuz it’s so many, put 2 options to fight each other and choose the better one till you have 1 option.
  14. Then how would you define insanity? And if the average human realized a lot of this stuff off rip they would go insane
  15. https://www.whitehouse.gov/videos/trump-tv-is-here/
  16. So your notion of awakening is intrinsically intellectual; it involves the mind reflecting on something. That's kinda what I've been hinting at. Let me rephrase the question: can a baby have an "experience" of pure being and love/bliss/energy? I think yes. But then, can they have an "experience" (does that even make sense?) of "the nature of limits, solipsism, authority, truth, Infinity and God"? I don't think so. Why? Because those are intrinsically conceptual/intellectual, the former is not. I call the two categories awakening because they're intrinsically non-conceptual. They most fundamentally happen prior to and independent of any reflection. You can reflect on them, but it's not relevant to whether it's an awakening or not, it's not important. Why you choose to make reflection on an experience an important part of the definition, could mean you highly value the conceptual.
  17. In my early 20s I used to be like that, blocking my exes. But one ex made me deeply question my beliefs on the matter and asked me “what for? really”, simple question but I sit with it for a bit and concluded that there is not need to block anyone unless it’s breaking my boundaries. Like nudes and shii? Yea man, I clean my house completely so the next new person doesn’t have to presume anything. But also for BOTH of your healing process, I don’t want to make her/his healing process a nightmare by me coming back. No need to look at old pics with her/him, my phone basically becomes a new one lol, fresh start, gotta move on.
  18. Today
  19. @Joshe I’m working on that.
  20. Before i buy garlic and then get upset i bought it, How much different is garlic once the allicin wears off, that fresh pungency assoc. w/ it, which goes away after some min., or hours once it has been cut? Im looking for something that is like, a spice (not like a spice spice, i mean fresh roots and such) but i think ive been misunderstanding the importance of garlic, in alot of these things im tryina make, rice-related stuff... Im hoping someone out there has exp., using garlic, and knows of its stages-of-ripeness, you might call it, and how it effects flavor. Like, is it radically different? Is it sweet like Onion sweet? Or will i just feel like "Oh its just garlic, but less potent"? P.s. Im done w/ ginger, and i gave it my best shot, but its actually horrible. Like once i taste it, even slightly, its like, ruining my day, alas it is wat is bringing the dish down, Like garlic surely cant be worse. Like if i want brightness, i would just rather add battery acid, Like thats how much its gotten on my nerves, like... Even lemon, although i dont like to add it to the dish, it smells knda good when you clean w/ fresh lemon, where as ginger is like guava, in the sense that its like a fake version of a real fruit.
  21. By thinking. You have to actually think, not just consume.
  22. Flower Power!
  23. Having a degree can only help your sales and make you seem more qualified to your future customers. It establishes some trust and clout. Its a way to appeal to the mainstream. It somewhat depends who is your target demographic. Small spiritual circles might care less about academic credentials. The mainstream cares a lot about credentials. I heard a good saying "if you want to exceed expectations, you first have to know what the expectations are". In other words you can't be better than traditional psychotherapy if you don't know what traditional psychotherapy is. Getting a psych degree can prove you know it. I don't know the answer. I'm just giving reasons for going to university. There could be a good case for not going.
  24. I feel it would be more effective to run his frame through those questions yourself and form a concrete demonstration of the error, and I think that would be easier for him to respond to. Just my two cents.
  25. Groovy!
  26. Leo how do you know all this stuff? What's the best way to educate oneself? Is reading enough or is formal education necessary? Can getting educated about politics be done without school/university?
  27. @CARDOZZO Have you ever trained with Peter or Brendan IRL?
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