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I lacked a lot of energy and confidence today. I also stood up a lot later so my routine was out of balance but still ..
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Atmos replied to Loveeee's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
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Butters replied to Olaf's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
I knew from the beginning this guy was a POS by the way he treated his black caddy driver in that documentary they did on him a few years ago. Just look at the way they treat other people, it's not that hard to see. -
Ideally you address the issue when it's at the level of annoyance, before it rises to the anger part of the spectrum. Sometimes it's not possible, and then anger is OK. But if it happens too often it's a hint the person may be lacking the self-awareness and emotional maturity required to spot it and act upon it already at lower levels of the spectrum.
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Some people are still stick in a nationalistic mindset, me and my people against the world to the death. A lot more people don't really care like most of the Russian conscripts aren't people with good lives in cities they take advantage of poor people in small towns, criminals and foreigners.
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Lunatic replied to Lunatic's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
__A few sample inquiries__ “In parallel with Beck, Albert Ellis developed a cognitive approach called _rational emotive therapy_.^[47]^ In Ellis's ABC model, A is an antecedent stimulus (a noise), B is a belief (that the noise signifies danger), and C is the consequence (fearful feelings and avoidance response).” (LeDoux 2015, 265) “1. When something obnoxious occurs to you at point A (your Activating Experience or Activating Event), you feel sorrowful or sad at point C (your emotional Consequence) because you tell yourself at point B (your Belief System), …” (Ellis and Harper 1975, 77) that the event is bad (negative in Burn's words). A, B and C are all cognitions and B and C are events too. So B for instance has its own A, B and C. “__WORLD:__ A series of ~~positive, neutral, and negative (= at point B)~~ events.” (Burns 1999, 30) “Remember that it never was, in the first place, an original traumatic experience that made people disturbed but their _attitude toward_ the experience—at what I call point “B”.” (Ellis 2004, 46–47) “When your feelings are up and out, your mind is naturally quiet. And you're self-obvious to yourself as to the fact that you are whole, complete, perfect, eternal.” (“Lester Levenson, Hale Dwoskin - Lester Levenson (Sedona Method) Magnum Opus PDF-Lester Levenson _ Sedona Method (2024).pdf”, 394) Getting started: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Byron_Katie#Teachings, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D-vBAEcjmTI, `The Work.md` (https://pastebin.com/NP3rAur9). If you are looking for patterns, start from the bottom of the document: https://mega.nz/file/csJj2DiL#9bipHmgsD9agFe4JGAvdKYFR-tI57qFQtYn5Amtzocc, https://pastebin.com/SK4Hzzws. Attachments Brasington 2024, _Dependent Origination and Emptiness (2 ed.)_, 27–30, "Dependent Origination and Emptiness - 2nd Edition - A5", https://leighb.com/sodapi/download.htm. Burns 1999, _Feeling Good : The New Mood Therapy_, 29–30, 155. Katie and Jensen 2000, _All War Belongs on Paper: The Manual for the Work of Byron Katie_, 11. Levenson 1993, _Keys to the Ultimate Freedom: Thoughts and Talks on Personal Transformation_, 221, https://archive.org/details/keys-to-the-ultimate-freedom-thoughts-and-talks-on-personal-transformation-leste. gains_workbook-sedona-method-release-technique-1992.pdf. jyn_en_mod_6feb2019_r4_form1.pdf, https://thework.com/. It WOULD be right for Thomas to quit smoking. I think that it WOULD be right for Thomas to quit smoking. ... think that it WOULD be best for Thomas to quit smoking. Thomas SHOULD quit smoking. __Q1: Is it true that Thomas SHOULD quit smoking?__ Yes. __SQ: What do you think you WOULD have?__ I WOULD feel happy‒in control if Thomas quit smoking. ... WOULD feel happy—in getting Paul to quit smoking. ... WOULD feel happy—relieved (adj.). __Q2: Can you absolutely know that it's true?__ No. __Q3: How do you react, what happens, when you believe that thought?__ __Q3: What's the payoff for holding that belief?__ (Katie 1996, 15) I feel unhappy. ... WOULD control/change Thomas. (= I WOULD get Thomas to quit smoking.) __Q1: Is it true?__ No. It is not true that it happens. "It's an illusion; I don't really get that payoff." (Keyes 1989, 59) __Q2: ...?__ __Q3: How do you react, what happens, when you believe that thought?__ I think that Thomas should quit smoking. __Q3: ...?__ I feel unhappy. ... __SQ3A: Can you see a reason to drop the thought? (And please don't try to drop it.)__ __SQ: CAN YOU SEE A REASON NOT TO CONTINUE BELIEVING THAT IT WOULD BE BEST FOR THOMAS TO QUIT SMOKING?__ __SQ: Can you see a fact that makes it correct not to continue believing that it WOULD be best for Thomas to quit smoking?__ https://www.oxfordreference.com/view/10.1093/acref/9780199571123.001.0001/m_en_gb0710960. Katie and Jensen 2000, 83. __SQ: Can you see a fact that makes it right or fair to believe that Thomas SHOULD quit smoking?__ "a fact that makes it right or fair to do something" ..., reason (n.), sense 2, https://www.oxfordlearnersdictionaries.com/definition/english/reason_1. "correct in your opinion or judgement" ..., right (adj.), sense 2, https://www.oxfordlearnersdictionaries.com/definition/english/right_1. __SQ: Can you see a fact that makes it correct not to believe that it is true that Thomas SHOULD quit smoking?__ __SQ: Can you see a fact that makes it correct not to continue thinking that it is true that Thomas SHOULD quit smoking?__ Yes. "Often, very good reasons can be found in your answer to question 3, “How do you react when you think that thought?” Each stressful reaction—anger, for example, or sadness or distancing—is a good reason to drop the thought." (Katie and Mitchell 2021, chap. 4) I feel unhappy. But that does not mean it WOULD not be best for Thomas to quit smoking. That does not mean Thomas SHOULDN'T quit smoking. That does not mean it would be wrong for Thomas to quit smoking. "to continue to have something and not give it back or throw it away" ..., keep (v.), sense 1, https://www.oxfordlearnersdictionaries.com/definition/english/keep_1. "Once you see the truth, the thought lets go of _you_, not the other way around." (Katie and Mitchell 2021, chap. 5) __SQ3B: Can you find one stress-free reason to keep the thought?__ _SQ: Can you find one fact that makes it correct to continue believing the thought that Thomas SHOULD quit smoking?__ Yes. "Everyone knows that smoking diminishes breathing capacity and causes lung cancer." (Katie and Jensen 2000, 83) That means it WOULD be best for Thomas to quit smoking. (Thomas's breathing capacity WOULD NOT diminish and he WOULD NOT get lung cancer.) That makes it correct to continue believing that it WOULD be best for Thomas to quit smoking. __SQ: Is this reason peaceful, or is it stressful?__ (Katie and Mitchell 2021, chap. 5) Stressful. __Q3: How do you react, ..., when you believe that everyone knows that ...?__ I think that Thomas should quit smoking. __Q3: ...?__ I feel unhappy. (... WOULD control/change Thomas. That does not mean it WOULD be best for Thomas to quit smoking.) __Q4: Who or what WOULD you be without the thought?__ ... WOULD be sb who feels happy. $$$ "Your thought that ... shouldn’t ... is just your way of mentally arguing with what is. It doesn’t do you any good, and it doesn’t change ...; its only effect is to cause you stress." (Katie and Mitchell 2021, chap. 5) "We find that the only payoff is our suffering." (Katie 1996, 52) "but also to understand the specific effects of believing it, the price in anger or sorrow or resentment that it pays when it believes the thought" (Katie and Mitchell 2007, chap. 65) “Focusing on that payoff, check any insights you have about the supposed payoff that makes you hold on to your addiction:” (Keyes 1989, 59) "“Is this reason (= payoff) peaceful, or is it stressful? Does thinking that thought bring peace or stress into my life?" (Katie and Mitchell 2021, 153) ... I feel unhappy because I think that it is true that Thomas should quit smoking therefore it is not true that Thomas should quit smoking? https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/non-sequitur I don't have a job. __Q1: Is it true that you don't have a job?__ Yes. __Q3: How do you react, what happens, when you believe that thought?__ ... think that I COULD have a job. __Q1: IS IT TRUE THAT YOU COULD (= WOULD possibly; it WOULD be possible for you to (Quirk et al. 1985, 222; Swan ?, sec. 258.6)) HAVE A JOB?__ __Q1: Is it true that you CAN have a job? (= Is it true that it is possible for you to have a job?)__ __Q3: ...?__ ... think that it WOULD be good if I had a job. ... think that it is bad that I don't have a job. __Q1: Is it true that it is bad that you don't have a job?__ Yes. __Q1: IS IT TRUE? LIKE, RIGHT NOW?__ No. __Q3: How do you react, what happens, when you think that it is bad that you don't have a job?__ I feel unhappy. ... think that I WOULD feel happy if I had a job. ... think that I WOULD feel happy if I got (= "come to have (something); receive:") a job. ... think that I WOULD feel happy if I got (= "succeed in attaining, achieving, or experiencing; obtain:") a job. __Q1: Is it true that you WOULD feel happy if you got/obtained a job?__ Yes. __Q3: ...?__ I think that it WOULD be right to try to find/get a job. (= I SHOULD look for a job.) __Q1: Is it true that I SHOULD look for a job?__ No. __Q3: How do you react, ..., ...?__ I think that I COULD have a job. __SQ: Would you drop/let go of the thought that it is bad that you don't have a job if you could?__ Yes. __Q4: If the thought let go of you, who or what WOULD you be?__ I WOULD be sb who feels happy. __Q4: Who or what WOULD you be without the thought?__ ... I don't have a job. I think (= use mind) that I don't have a job. __Q1: Is it true that you don't have a job?__ Yes. __Q2: Can you absolutely know that it's true?__ No. My job might be to wake up. __That means__ I can't absolutely know that it's true. __Q3: How do you react, what happens, when you believe that thought?__ ... think (= use mind; have opinion/belief) that it is bad that I don't have a job. (= Vedanā.) (..., think (v.), sense 1, "__have opinion/belief__", 6 May 2026, https://www.oxfordlearnersdictionaries.com/definition/english/think_1) (..., think (v.), sense 2, "__use mind__", ...) "your feelings or thoughts about somebody/something, rather than a fact" (..., opinion (n.), sense 1, SYNONYM view, 6 May 2026, https://www.oxfordlearnersdictionaries.com/definition/english/opinion) "based on your own ideas or opinions rather than facts and therefore sometimes unfair" (..., subjective (adj.), sense 1, 6 May 2026, https://www.oxfordlearnersdictionaries.com/definition/english/subjective) __Q1: Is it true that it is bad that you don't have a job?__ Yes. __Q1: Is it true that it is bad that you don't have a job? Like, right now?__ Right now, in this moment, no. __Q2: Can you absolutely know that it's true?__ No. __Q3: How do you react, ..., when you believe that thought?__ I think that it is bad that I think that it is bad that I don't have a job. __Q1: Is it true that it is bad that you think that it is bad that you don't have a job?__ Yes. I feel unhappy. __That means__ it is bad that I think that it is bad that I don't have a job. No. I WOULD get to continue surviving—if I had a job. (__Q3: ... when you believe that you WOULD get to ...?__ I think that I WOULD feel happy—safe/secure.) That means it is good (= expedient) that I think that it is bad that I don't have a job. __...__ I think (= use mind; have opinion/belief) that I feel unhappy. I feel unhappy (adj.)—sad, anxious; ashamed, guilty, embarrassed. ... feel disenjoyment (n.). ... dislike (disenjoy (v.)) that I don't have a job. "like or enjoy very much:" (_Oxford Dictionary of English (3 ed.)_, love (v.), sense 1.1, 6 May 2026, https://www.oxfordreference.com/view/10.1093/acref/9780199571123.001.0001/m_en_gb0482930) ... feel undesirous—of not having a job. (= I don't want not to have a job.) I feel desirous. (= "dependent upon __Vedanā__, __Craving__ arises." (Brasington 2024, _Dependent Origination and Emptiness (2 ed.)_, 27, 30, "Dependent Origination and Emptiness - 2nd Edition - A5", https://leighb.com/sodapi/download.htm)) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Necessity_and_sufficiency __Q1: Is it true that you dislike that you don't have a job?__ __Q1: Is it true that you dislike that you don't have a job therefore you think that it is bad that you don't have a job?__ Yes. __That means__ the thought that it is bad that you don't have a job is a necessary condition for the thought that you dislike that you don't have a job. (= Q1 is a switch for Q3.) __Q1: Is it true that you think that it is bad that you don't have a job therefore you dislike that you don't have a job?__ Yes. __That means__ the thought .... __Q2: ...?__ __Q3: ...?__ ... I think that it is bad that I dislike .... __Q1: Is it true that it is bad that you dislike ...?__ Yes. "Do I operate more efficiently, quickly and clearly when I am stressed or fearful?” (In my experience, all stress is inefficient and is simply a mask for the fear of love.)" (Katie and Jensen 2000, 85) Yes. "A small amount of anxiety can be motivating, but you rapidly reach a point of diminishing returns. Too much anxiety can cripple you. I’ve found that I do my best work when I’m feeling relaxed and confident, not when I’m worried or anxious." (Burns 2006, 68) Barlow and Craske 2022, 41–42. ... __Q2: ...?__ __Q3: ...?__ __SQ: Would you let go of the thought that you dislike that ... if you could?__ Would you let go that you dislike that you don't have a job if you could? Would you let go that you want a job if you could? Yes. Magic Dial. Burns 2020. Magic Button. Burns 2020. "You'll see as you start to become aware of your wanting approval and control, even more than with the emotions, you'll have a tendency to just let it go. It's like you'll notice you're wanting to control it a little, and it's just gone. Because it's natural. It's a natural part of us to let go of our wanting approval and wanting control once it's identified." (“Lester Levenson, Hale Dwoskin - Lester Levenson (Sedona Method) Magnum Opus PDF-Lester Levenson _ Sedona Method (2024)”, 7) "See, our course works at the feeling level. And the intellect, the rational part of the mind is all motivated by our feelings today." (“Lester Levenson, Hale Dwoskin - Lester Levenson (Sedona Method) Magnum Opus PDF-Lester Levenson _ Sedona Method (2024)”, 36) ... __Q4: ...?__ __Q4: ...?__ __SQ: Would you let go of the thought that it is bad that you don't have a job if you could?__ Yes. “Once you see the truth, the thought lets go of _you_, not the other way around.” (Katie and Mitchell 2021, 152) "when you recognize that the thought isn’t true, again there is no suffering." (Katie and Mitchell 2021, chap. 1, 9) "When I say that the worst that can happen is a belief, I am being literal." (Katie and Mitchell 2021, chap. 12) __Q4: ...?__ I don't have a job. __Q3: ...?__ I think that it is bad that I don't have a job. __Q3: ...?__ I feel unhappy. ... feel undesirous—of not having a job. (= I don't want not to have a job.) ... feel not desirous—of not having a job. __Q3: ...?__ I think that I don't have a job. "__Q:__ If you drop the desire for some thing, will it still come your way? __Lester:__ No. The desire is the cause for it." (Levenson 1993, chap. 28) "The effect of this cessation ripples through the many feedback loops, allowing the whole sequence to cease." (https://www.dhammatalks.org/books/BuddhasTeachings/Section0003.html) I don't have a job. __Q3: ...?__ ... think that it is bad that I don't have a job. __Q3: ...?__ I think that I don't have a job. I don't have a job. __Q3: ...?__ I think that it is bad that I don't have a job. ... think that it WOULD be good if I had a job. __Q3: ...?__ I feel unhappy. ... think that it is good that I think that it is bad that I don't have a job. __Q1: ...?__ Yes. No. I feel unhappy. __That means__ it is bad (= disadvantageous, unhelpful, etc.) that I think that it is bad that I don't have a job. __Q3: How do you react, what happens, when you think that it is good that you think that it is bad that you don't have a job?__ I think that it is bad that I don't have job. Burns 1999, pp. 29–30, 155 .pdf Brasington 2024, pp. 27, 28, 29, 30.pdf Levenson 1993, 221.pdf jyn_en_mod_6feb2019_r4_form1.pdf 89_PDFsam_gains_workbook-sedona-method-release-technique-1992.pdf Katie and Jensen 2000, 11.pdf -
Breakingthewall replied to Someone here's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Both are real. There is not "how real". How real is a stone in comparison with a planet? Exactly in the same level: real. A dream is happening due countless of relationship between fields, etc, same than anything else. Spirituality is not that mess, is being open to your total nature, that is the nature of everything, that is the absence of limits that is. But you are open to it from a limited structure or process that is happening now that is your human nature. Nothing is a "dream" , thats just obscurantist spirituality that confuses everyone -
No1Here2c replied to Someone here's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
@Breakingthewall You must be busy with those chakras & tarot cards ay? -
NewKidOnTheBlock replied to LordFall's topic in Society, Politics, Government, Environment, Current Events
It is honestly hard for me to understand how anyone currently living in this world, with all this technology (especially with internet and social media), has any sort of zeal for war/fighting left in them. I can understand that zeal during the 20th century, even in 21st up until mass adoption of internet and invention of social media. Everything is so strange, post modern and memey right now, like how are you gonna seriously go to war as a soldier knowing that someone on the internet is gonna make fun of that whole war and your situation. Like the way Ukrainean men are fighting in the war whilst at the same time you see some Ukrainean women party it up at some club in western Europe. Things are just not the same anymore and I don't think people anywhere in the world have that propaganda fueled resolve and willpower anymore needed to sustain wars -
No1Here2c replied to Someone here's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Answer your own questions. Do me a favor. Keep it up! Spirituality=Nondual -
No1Here2c replied to Someone here's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
So than what are you waiting for? If it is so simple just do it. I ask specifically, How real is a dream upon Awakening? Not how real while you are in it. -
Breakingthewall replied to Someone here's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
It's exactly as real than being awake, but in another state. Don't you see that you are dividing the reality in categories, putting a higher category the label of "truth", and lower category the label of "dream"? -
Breakingthewall replied to Someone here's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Any limit is real since it's happening. If you create a limit between the observer and the object, the limit is happening and has consequences. Maybe it's not absolute, can be dissolved, but until you dissolve it, it is. Labelling everything as illusory is just a mental complication without any utility. This could sounds like poetry, but is meaningless in the sense that divide the true essence (the screen) and the form. This is non dualistic spirituality. -
No1Here2c replied to Someone here's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
How 'real' is a Dream upon Awakening? This is your dream. -
Breakingthewall replied to Someone here's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Dreams are real. For a dream to occur billions of neural connection are happening. A dream Is as real as a stone or a Galaxy, there are no categories of reality. Maybe for you as a human a dream has no consequences and a stone in your head yes, but that doesn't implies that one is more rela than other - Today
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The compassion, generosity and intelligence of some, knows no bounds.
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This is where personal agency must come into play. Do not forget you possess sovereignty. A Human being is remarkably infused with wisdom. Inherent, intrinsic wisdom. As if of the DNA itself. Genetic Code=foundation of all biology. Meditation, contemplation, and general consciousness work can reveal. Duty to share.
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If we lived in a perfect world of clarity and consciousness unimpeded by the devious works of survival's mastercraftsmanship, maybe then there would be plausibility to your theory. It just isn't so simple.
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There will always be oppositional parties. If a Nation were free of corruption it would not survive. It would be torn apart by a pack of wolves.
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Do not forget that The Third Reich reigned supreme in europe for a decent ~12 years. Ultimately, as all falsehood does, it came to a collapse. Though we recognize that oftentimes, corruption puts an ego ‐ individual or collective - at a survival advantage. If you feel that modern America or Europe are free of corruption, you'd be gravely misunderstood. It is all still there, simply much better well hidden. Separation of church & state is like a single card of the house of them we've built. The trends come back around. Corruption is self seeking and self reinforcing.
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Truth≠Survival
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& grab yourself a bag of popcorn!
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No1Here2c replied to Someone here's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Ultimately, this is not to be grasped by human cognitive faculties. Consciousness must intuitively 'come to know' itself by simply being itself. Intuitive grasping. Translation, transcription, & attempts at communication become the only 'useful' aspects of human mind. Human mind itself, cannot grasp this. -
No1Here2c replied to Someone here's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
To witness thoughts is to be consciously unified with them. Any limit, or separation you feel, is itself illusory. Imaginary separation, All distinction Imaginated. Thoughts play into this sense, but it goes much deeper than the surface layer of cognition alone. The power of imagined distinction is capable of degrees of intensity that a human would call 'physical'. That is how deep distinction goes. ~♤~ In regard to point #2, there seems not to exist even a 'collapser' of distinction. As to exist one who collapses distinction, would itself need be a distinguished element within the unified conscious field. Conscious field in perfect union is finality. Yet it always has deeper layers. Finality is but the beginning. Paradox is as Nature. Wholistic perspective recognizes all parts, & yet remains as one. True essence is the formless expanse. The 'space' within which all Imagation arises. Space which itself is an imagined feature. True essence, the freedom expanse, is not bound by three dimensions. It expands 'outwards' & 'inwards' in every 'possible' way, & every 'impossible' way. This is Infinity. This is Love. This is Beauty. True Love. Absolute Beauty. Formless Infinity. Far 'deeper' than emotion could touch. -
I think all the current violent conflicts on earth will end and we will have world peace in the next 15 years through some form of global council AI police state. Perhaps through the UN or a new similar organization. The fundamental reason is because war is as a whole unprofitable for the human race. It is very profitable for a few invested deeply in the military industrial complexes of their regions but for other power centers in their countries don't benefit from it. Fundamentally if we look at it in terms of incentives we find ourselves with : - Moneymaxxing - Making a lot of money in a sustainable way. Requires certainty, markets dislike uncertainty. A few players benefit from it through the previously mentionned military industrial complex and insider trading but as a whole there is just less capita produced when wars are happening. - Statusmaxxing - World leaders gaining power and prestige through wars. That era seems to be done mostly I believe through social media and the ease to dissiminate information and specifically the horrors and brutality of war. Hard for Netanyahu and Putin to look like glorious leaders of the human race when there is countless clips of their soldiers and missiles killing innocent people. Before social media is was much easier to keep information siloed and thus mostly the mainstream leaders had the status in society. Now we have a variety of other influencers and leaders that are able to obtain notoriety through peaceful means. The recent shooting attempts on Trump have also highlighted how vulnerable world leaders with a public presence are so I think being a cutthroat authoritarian is gonna fall out of style quite soon. There is going to be a massive AI and surveillance war coming in the next decade but in my opinion it is already won by the people. What you might not know is the tech community is fundamentally anti-authoritarian and open source. The OSINT community has the most cutting edge surveillance tech and you can find it for free at public events or even on youtube. Most of the leaders in it are well meaning and have nothing to hide. It's just a game theory exercise, most scenarios eventually fall into a nash equilibrium however unbalanced they are in the short term. The cold war and non-proliferation treaty are a good example of that with nuclear weapons. Concerning that there are talks of them being used again but I think ultimately the laws of mutual benefit and equilibrium will prevail.
