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Leo Gura replied to Butters's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
The feeling of being centered inside your head is imagined. It is necessary to construct the sense that you are a human organism. That sense gets unimagined in higher states, and at death it is lost entirely, freeing you to be Omnipresent. If you felt Omnipresent, you couldn't form the human organism identity. You would feel surreal, dissociated, and not a solid entity. You would also lose sanity. A big part of your sanity is that you imagine you are a biological organism with a singular identity. You don't mistake yourself with a goat. But this is actually false. You are a goat. -
I love beer, but I pretty much only drink the alcohol free stuff.
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Thought Art replied to Majed's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
@Majed I would say leave your poor parents alone haha -
This explains the idiocy of wine
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Leo Gura replied to Majed's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
@Majed Good, well, just replace that with whatever other opinion you hold strongly. Perhaps something related to dating. Anything you think is real, you can't be talked out of. Whether it is real is irrelevant. -
Majed replied to Majed's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
@Emerald Very interesting and thoughtful, thank you for responding. -
oldhandle replied to enchanted's topic in Society, Politics, Government, Environment, Current Events
Worst human I know of -
Majed replied to Majed's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
@Leo Gura I know i am God and that the physical word is a hallucination, an optical illusion within consciousness which is infinite. -
Leo Gura replied to Leo Gura's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
That's what yoga is. -
Thought Art replied to Leo Gura's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Michael over at Yogalap has a pay what you want Pranayama course I highly recommend. Learning from books is super hard. Learning from video is the best way to rapidly learn if you don’t have an in person teacher. I honestly think consciousness can be explored through pranayama, Krya, Acupressure and Qigong. Meditation is a foundation for that work. What I am saying is very profound for relative spiritual work and inner cultivation. Also, look up Dan Brulé’s breathing courses. Very Interesting and powerful stuff are these breathing exercises. I share these tangents with you in this Krya thread so you can start to envision the potential of a holistic approach to energy work. These sober practices are important along with psychedelic work, journaling, contemplating etc. Actually, a great way to approach each of these fields is through contemplating while doing them. Deeply contemplate an acupressure point for a couple years. -
Leo Gura replied to Majed's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
For the same reason it's impossible to talk you out of your belief that you are a human in a physical world. That IS your reality. You know no other. -
Late RV - session insights Whats weird is that I have two radical different programms in my mind when it comes to dating. Either full commitment, doing everything for someone or hardcore PUA mindset, not letting anyone come near me. But its often in between cases. I dont have a program for that. I might have had the intuition that i would come back to RV with more life experience My mind is so sneaky, I dont even notice when I go into unconsciousness. I ask for the target and realize a moment later, I wasnt really aware. So I try to be fully aware and it really seems like I am but each time I notice, No, I wasnt. I am kind of surviving on autopilot. I havent really allowed my mind to fully comprehend all the possibilites I could have sexually. I notice that when I think of sexual opportunites I have right now and I think: whoa how can that be, well this and much more I surpressed. Maybe 1h RV sessions just dont work for me properly. I already have problems with concentration. At the end of this session I just couldnt do it anymore. This was 46 mins now which is okay. Would like to bring the trend of less then 30 mins back. I am more thorough now though, which plays into it. My results werent that great, a few hit it perfectly and a few felt misguided. Like I had once the picture of heat from an oven in my mind and wrote heat down but I had orange mountains shining in the evening sun, likewise I had the picture of an organge almost healed open wound in my wind which in its essence (without the interpretation that it would be a wound) could have been a perfect match.
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Emerald replied to Majed's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Because someone's religion is often a huge part of their cosmology... and their identity is shaped in relation to that cosmology. So, religious deconstruction is usually only precipitated by a dark night of the soul where the bottom falls out of the paradigm entirely, and the person must deconstruct and reconstruct a new identity and new cosmology. It's not for the faint of heart, at all. I've had many clients and friends who have deconstructed, and it's very difficult inner work precipitated by a crisis of meaning. But if you're a scientifically-minded person, I could give an analogy... Imagine a scientific thinker who was raised in an environment where the central paradigm of the society was a very science-based cosmology. And let's say that that scientific-thinking person's cosmology and identity is shaped on a foundation of scientific rationalism. And all their coping strategies are based in this paradigm as well. And then, let's say (hypothetically) if a new and more accurate intellectual paradigm and cosmology was presented where science was discovered as incorrect, illusory, or constructed... then you could imagine how difficult that would be for that person to deconstruct their scientific paradigm and the identities they've built up off of it. That's what happens when religious people go through the process of deconstruction.... they have to unpack and change A LOT of elements of their worldview and identity... perhaps most of them. And it takes time. And while a really shrewd cult leader-ish person, could unethically brainwash someone and pull them over into their own cosmology... most people don't deconstruct at the behest of other people. And that's especially true if you give rational arguments. What you do when you confront a religious person to try to get them to deconstruct when they are content with their current paradigm is to either entrench them further (in 99% of cases, this is what happens) or you potentially destabilize their identity and push them into a dark night of the soul and identity crisis that they don't know how to handle (in a small percentage of cases this happens... and it's not great if you push them over prematurely) -
UnbornTao replied to Leo Gura's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
That just sounds like breathing with extra steps. -
Haha everyone projecting their own reasons for Leo's travel destinations onto him 🤪
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Leo Gura replied to Leo Gura's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
You mean a Kriya course? I want to make one but not until I gain more experience in it. In a few years. I need to test it out more and I got other courses to make first and the retreat. Focus on mastering pranayama. That's the gist of it. -
Natasha Tori Maru replied to Terell Kirby's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Definitely depends on intention. Back and forth can also facilitate union. I think perhaps you are assuming what others are attempting or the meaning behind the dialogue. -
@Emerald interesting point regarding the study. Perhaps the deciding factor is choice and personal conduct. Veganism is a choice - and when we choose differently to others (especially when this choice is ethical or runs counter to society norms) it forces people to reflect on their own behaviour. Something like race does not have the loaded nature of choice associated with it. I find similar issue when others find out I do not drink or eat processed food. Problematic in Australia as our drinking culture is intense. People bond through alcohol. And yes I did raise that with Coral (that transparency is always best from the outset), she simply viewed it as removing obstacles to dates or life options. But that in itself is problematic: one should not have to pretzel themselves into something else to get on. I dislike that sort of behaviour in myself because it breeds resentment over time. Resentment is poison to me.
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mmKay replied to Leo Gura's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Are you gonna do a crash course on the stripped down version of Kriya? Looking to get back into the practice. I've got all the books but I feel it's overkill. -
@Hojo Yeah, it even join the Hawaïan Ho'Oponopono tradition where they explain that when you clear all of your memory, you become empty, a clear vessel and when you are like that, everything is perfect. In this tradition they explain that if you encounter a bad event, it means there is something more you need to clear and unless you clear it, you will experience the same thing again and again. Many traditions came to that same conclusion, we find it also in Kabbalah with the idea of "Tikkun", shadow part that you need to clear in order to let more Light in and have a better Life @Breathe You are the one looking out for yourself, no one else and if something bad happens, it can be for unknown causes but I don't think there is anything random, just causes we don't understand..
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Puer Aeternus replied to Majed's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
I guess I can toss you a few angles here. Of course different nuances apply.. if they were raised into the religion or converted, if they genuinely follow the rules prescribed by their religion or merely put on a self-serving religious mask. The most obvious, is that they may have some level of social religious enmeshment. Meaning for them Islam could be heavily involved in their work, familial, social, and even societal life. Realistically on the strange chance one of them could be convinced by your arguments.. the other likely won't take to it, so that would be their marriage at stake too. The truth is that they are already comfortable in their way of living and they don't have any harsh enough punishing circumstances pushing on their beliefs. You will not win in them with some logic level debate because what is holding this together isn't logic. Giving any of this up could bring painful conflict with loved ones, potential questions about how to make a living and surviving, hell a full blown crisis that would take years and decades to integrate. Just very uncomfortable when many do not even seek out slight discomfort willingly. It is likely that their religion is the frame through which all of reality. Imagine everything flipped on its head!? You will need something heavy to break the rationalizing power of religion. A less talked about but interesting point I think, is that they are still prone to experiencing synchroneities as much as anyone else. AKA those divine "coincidences" that will be interpreted directly through their religion and viewed as strong evidence for them following the true faith when ya'know.. anyone can get them, across religious or non-religious belief systems. If they are to be pushed from the faith it would take some great circumstances beyond you. Like a falling away or replacement of the mentioned social forces in their life. Or an incredible tragedy and crisis that would push them to the brink. But of course, nothing is linear or predictable. All these circumstances could have the reverse effect of making them even MORE religious or cause no change at all. Since they are probably older they're even less likely to change with so much crystalized life experience and deep stories about the world, whereas younger people whose stories, identities, and lifestyles are much less solid and could be more open to change. -
I would binge-watch Kill Tony podcasts for a few weeks for that reason. People come on stage and share their crappy, below-average lives. Makes it relatable, and the crowd loves them for it. When someone tries to play a character, they get booed off
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That is a shame. I would suggest to her (at least in dating and friendship) to let her freak flag fly about it and be very transparent about her values... otherwise she may end up with people who don't accept her for who she is and would reject her for her values (which would be her main fear made manifest). Though, I can understand hiding it if you need to find a place to live and you've been rejected for being Vegan in the past. It can be frustrating because it's one of those "no good deed goes unpunished" things because people really don't like it when other people are walking the talk around their ethical values. People (especially non-Vegan animal lovers) can often feel like someone simply being Vegan puts them on trial in an imaginary trial... even if that Vegan isn't imposing in any way because it makes them feel guilty. They tend to have their own judgments of themselves for running afoul of their own ethical values... and then transfer that onto Vegans... and especially onto a quiet Vegan if that Vegan is going out of their way to hide themselves. That person becomes a blank projection screen for that person's most biting judgments of themselves.. And I recently heard about a study that was referred to in a video I was watching. I'll have to look it up to verify it. And in the study people were asked about their feelings about different types of groups... Vegans were one... Vegetarians were another. And then there were groups along the lines of race, gender, sexuality, etc. and other kinds of groups too like immigrants. And Vegans were the lowest ranked group in terms of likability. No one likes a goody-two-shoes who lives in integrity with popularly-held values when most other people are not. And the Vegan philosophy itself and their views on animals are very widely held... but rarely lived by. So, it's quite difficult to stand firm in one's own integrity when so many people will hate on you for it for shining the light on their own inconsistencies just by (even quietly) existing in a state of integrity with your values.
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Ok. It would take a few months to even prepare for a vacation. I wouldn't be able to try psychedelics other than N,N-DMT anyways. However, I will try it with harmala extract. I didn't understand that longer exposure to psychedelic experience changes everything.
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oldhandle replied to oldhandle's topic in Society, Politics, Government, Environment, Current Events
nothing happened today?
