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VeganAwake replied to James123's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Yeah, there isn't a real scale of measure. A twinkle of a star, a sneeze, the big bang, a nap, earth's entire evolutionary process, a reflection in a pond, a human life cycle. "Seemingly" & "Unknowable" are great words! Something and nothing Big and small Infinite and nonexistent 🤷‍♂️ -
I don't know if i agree with that, maybe you can debate and have a negotiation and healthy exchange, but definitely not argue when you are in peaceful state. I think we have two completely different understandings of what an argument actually is. How can you be at peace and feed tension? When i am feeling more peaceful it feels impossible to argue, raise ones voice, shout, and continue to partake in such back and forth battles, is all ego-play. I simply smile and remain silent if i notice such energies, especially when I am feeling peaceful, calm, relaxed and content. If you can see the candy making the child throw more tantrums, why feed it more? I think you are just sharing common spiritual knowledge you've picked up but its not really landing well because I don't feel you speak from wisdom and embodiment of such teachings yourself. There seems to be a lack of solidify or substance behind your words which I notice all over the forum, like your always ranting and never integrating deeper truths. Maybe this is something you can reflect upon? I see this all the time on this forum with many users, especially the non-dualists battle masters lately. Support and advice turns into a threat and its war ! Maybe this whole forum needs a good sageging
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The Liminal Threshold Note: The following gives yous some questions to think about. Its written a little messy but i think yous can sort it out. First i want to establish what *i think that *we think we mean by consciousness, for the sake of argument... Consciousness is synonymous w/ 'being', right? (i dont know what the modern direction is, or what has been subsumed by it. im just assuming so.. doesnt really matter); Il share this term, "ousia". Although the video gives it the pronunciation [oo'shia] or sumthn, in Greek thats an /s/, alas that doesnt really matter, im jus sharing the term for yas to look up, and theres no other videos, so yous have to look up the text / online Q: How do we ground ourselves in the very nature we begin? Like, where we (us) are those very grounding pieces of experience; We will answer that in the course of this long explanation. So, maybe we think of ourselves as these grounding pieces, that which we'll lose in the end. But then what? That is, how do we ground ourselves in the very nature we begin? The problem is, when we get to the center of our soul, beyond what there is to get beyonder from, how do we get past the religion? That is, how do we get past, you know, the internal spiral that is parallel to our being—That thing that speaks without words, that follows our soul to the darkest depths of the very very end. That thing we are trailing~as we progress further and are subsequently enveloped by our own rabbit hole of experiences and beingness? That/it, and *we (us) arent undoing eachother such that its resolving... We are our own puzzle \*pieces, deliberating/or thinking into what should be built, \*grounded in our own kit, carrying ourselves through every realm of X. What is "X"? but none other than the final painting, or the reaction after its built. From that vantage, we look back on the lego piece painting, and we notice two prominent \*marks or ideas: one that leads to this \*Mystery, the other, \*Us. We can try to connect the pieces of this liminal threshold in between, or we can visit each mark—However its about the pieces, how pieces relate to marks, how they fit. Then theres a very finite vers., that goes deeper into said relationships (piece/mark relation), where we are then detracting from the pieces themselves in order to explore this piece->mark relationship, which may (or may not be) the direction we want to go beyonder, but still, even if we did, we are not without that spiral that seeks us out. We seek *it in return and we pay no attention to (or lets say, this the case), and we are only focusing on what there is at the bottom. We are never without ourselves. There are a couple doors leading to the light of ourselves, and when we reach them, the act of walking further is precisely the same as being spit back out into existence. The liminal threshold is that which is between *us and the other end of these doors, aka *source. And when we do explore that particular relationship notice too that we are never without ourselves. Pieces are added and subtracted, never without ourselves. We can go to heaven and hell and back, and open each and every door, and no where is something or someone to rotate in someone else's experiences but our own. And whos to say we dont get hit by the eye of the sun, this ball of fire, sending us spiraling down into the most ancient of pits that belong to our soul, without any inclination of how we got there; Then and only then, we might say, it is the deepest weve ever gone, but never without ourselves. And i can take us to those places that forever extinguish every fiber that was attached, that had been sealed through the blackest of goo, or the most electrically charged particles holding everything intact, but to say that thats it—Like a clear delineation of the grounding/the beginning—To ascribe to it is to defy what is the essence of 'being', for being is able to solve its own internal legokit, and repaint the entire picture without any memoria, without having even known *the act of painting was an option. We can do incredible things when we reach the center of ourselves, though it may not seem like; I say this cause i sense theres somewhere in-earth to a fleeting fact somewhere, that there is a flying, harpy of an arch angel and/or a hella arch of an enemy hiding within us, that which we call us, and we arent aware of the deepness that lies through the cascade of a lego kit, that which never "begun". This lego kit/pit goes all the way down. To be ready is to assume you can be surprised, when alls there has ever been is surprises in the form of an experience that looks like "things that are important for the state of consciousness". Those things are consequences of consciousness though, Ousia, i frame in the form of a question, so how deep does it go, in the liminal space of what there is to explore? Let me know.
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I'm a privileged white boy. The only violence I did to myself. But this is argumentation. Prove me wrong (Google search) You're probably more in favor of the second definition.
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@InnerviewI have tried to notice what I am thinking about when I see a black one and when I see a white one. To see if what I am thinking about is doing it. I dont know if it changes but maybe it is. Like try to make a white one appear when a black one appears by completely changing thought process in the reversal. I tried to reverse a black one to a white one and it happened when I tried, but I dont know if its just random.
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Some more creations of my midjourney exploration few years back
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@Ramasta9You can be peaceful and argue. If you can be peaceful and argue you are beyond ego. You are letting the body do what it wants. When it stops being peaceful it means you are in ego. Arguing and peace does not have to be separate things or mean separate things. If it stops being peaceful and you get angry it means your ego is being hit and Im doing what I am doing properly. Where does anger come from in an argument? I wont lie it happens to me but I understand when it happens the person is doing me a favour. If someone does it to me I often just stop replying and reflect. Its either that or I think the person is too stupid to continue.
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Words reveal the mind, actions reveal the heart.
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I wasn't arguing at all? I grew up with a family of violence, arguments and believe me, if you went through what i went through every single day, you would probably feel the same as I do about any arguments, and try your best to minimize any unnecessary clash or harm on one another. @Hojo I guess I been through hell and back far too many times, so i try my best to keep it equally as peaceful as it is truthful.
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lol, damn bro, you crack me up. Hojo gives no fucks.
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Innerview replied to Hojo's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Yes, I see these. To me, they appear as small white dots that either stay in place or rapidly travel between two locations in my visual field. I have realized they appear when I have an interesting thought, or an insight. It almost seems like some sort of synesthesia. I have been working on trying to make them appear on command. It is very difficult as I only see them when I have intense emotions/insights. After looking at these phenomena for the last decade, I think I have figured out what they are. These individual dots are the nodes of a haxagonal grid overlaid on your visual field. Normally this grid is invisible. In heightened states on consciousness, such as when you have an insight, this grid becomes visible for a split second. If you enter extremely high states of consciousness you can see the whole grid. I have only done this twice (psychedelic used). The curious thing is that the appearance of the field (brightness of individual nodes/whether the dots are moving from one node to another, or if they are still) completely depend on your thoughts. Thus, it’s like this holographic grid mirrors your intention. And for what it’s worth, I think that these nodes are somehow connected to physical matter. Basically, if you can control these dots, you might be able to perform psychic phenomena such as telekinesis. Those are just my two cents. -
@Natasha Tori Maru Thanks Sister, maybe I'll share a few more then. Speaking of architecture... I have a thing for tiny homes, I seen some fascinating ideas on instagram, have you worked with those ideas? I am starting to realize its going to be far cheaper to afford decent amount of land and just build a tiny home for shelter, because who needs a mansion when Ideally you want to be spending most of your time around beautiful gardens and trees and attending to nature and animals. Besides, more you have, more to clean, ask my mum That's my ideal life at least, shelter is mostly for sleep after a long days work. I once lived in Northern NSW in a teepee with a fireplace in the middle, was a wonderful experience and simple life. We worked all day in the gardens, played instruments, danced around, climbed trees, fed and played with animals, picked fruit, and in the evening enjoyed the sunset and shared a meal in the teepee, sang some songs, told stories, and slept like gods. The inside of the teepee was full of carpets, futon style minimal bedding, and beautiful art designs and minimal furniture, yet still spacious. Unlike the traditional teepee, the roof was a mushroom cap so rain doesn't come in but smoke from the fire in the center leaves out nicely, and soundest / deepest sleep i ever had i must say. The indigenous couple who lived there long term shared how the fire and smoke actually facilitates clearing and transmutation of energies and bad dreams. They did have a main house, but only the kids and some elder guests slept in there, was always extra work. I don't think they live there anymore unfortunately, council is always a big bully here in Australia, you would probably know this. What you weaving there miss? dress or hippie door vibes?
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More instant hypocrisy. Contradiction Every time I asked her for help, she gave me a massive, bad look. Oh, sorry, was I bothering you? Seems these people aren't competent enough to handle others in work settings.
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People play a lot of games in communication. This is something that should be acknowledged.
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I went from homeless for a month, to video game addict for 10 years. Couch surfed and mooched off others for 3/4 years. Unable to hold down a job of more than 1 day a week. Deep nihilism and black pill. Cut off family, burned bridges with everyone I know. Chronic weed night day, wake and bake 5 years. Flunked University 3 times before I successfully earned a degree. Disregarded health to the extent I was landing in hospital frequently. Share housing until 33. Now I run a construction business with my Dad, have enough for a house deposit. Searching now. Reconnected with family. Got a dog. Love the dog. Did art, modelling and creativity all through. Hardcore spirituality put me straight, despite bad conditioning. You can do it. I did it. I am no one. Just some random chick who will live and die and love and end. To be forgotten. But life is just a beauty.
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All they have to do is loosen the co² rules for EU farmers and this will easily get accepted but I think they are still stuck in to much ideology. The EU farmers think it's unfair they are submitted to strict cowshit rules while the South-American farmers aren't.
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@Natasha Tori Maru And? I do it when it contradicts what they previously said. Thats what I said I do. I listen to the whole then bring up contradictions. Thats where the real person is hiding. The words they say dont matter, the contradictions matter.
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@Hojo i have seen you pull context and reply to users based on previous interactions. Whether you are conscious of this or not, you do it.
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I think this is the problem with most people.
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@JosheYes, you dont make alot of friends being like this. The type of person this is, is someone who watched spiritual gurus and then moulded themselves to be what they think the guru wants them to be.
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@Natasha Tori MaruYes it says, words dont mean anything.
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This says a lot.
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I've ordered this one (my earlier one, Dr. Collins Biomin Restore, contained titanium dioxide, which has been banned in the EU for concerns about genotoxicity). Very few ingredients (full list below image): Full ingredients: Water, Sorbitol, Glycerin, Hydrated Silica, Xylitol, Hydroxyapatite, Calcium Carbonate, Propanediol, Xanthan Gum, Cellulose Gum, Stevia Rebaudiana Extract, Erythritol, Sodium Gluconate. As for "natty status", water is natty; sorbitol, xylitol, erythritol are natural sugar alcohols found in fruits (Stevia extract is also used for its sugar alcohols), glycerin is in your skin, silica is everywhere (in your food, in your body), calcium is in your body (carbonate too), propanediol and xantan gum are fermentation products of natural starches, cellulose gum is derived from natural starches through a simple chemical process using e.g. acetic acid (but usually monochloroacetic acid which is highly toxic, but yeah, they try to wash it out, but microscopic amounts may remain), the gluconate in sodium gluconate naturally occurs in fruits.
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This is where making a list can be useful, but it requires Wisdom ideally.
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It's a specific type of spirituality. There seems to be more than one type/approach, which is threatening to many types because their type is supposed to be the only one, kind of like Christianity, lol.
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