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James123 replied to James123's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
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Thanks for the rec looks great , will check it out !
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Sugarcoat replied to VeganAwake's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Profound is kinda broad term but it can include plenty of different traits, spiritual, smart yes also charismatic What you trying to say with that last sentence? The most profound people dont hide all their lives, its authentic self expression to sooner or later in life share with the world in some way, could be online or even just to people in your life or something. The way you are should start showing in outward expression too, or else its underdevelopment, I think -
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@Natasha Tori Maru kawaii! (˶˃ ᵕ ˂˶)
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Have you tried it in real life yet? I did recently after thinking about it for a few years. Was pretty fun and relieving. I feel more whole now and I can sense men's energies a lot more clearly. It's pretty cool but can be kinda creepy at times, a lot of men are quite intense. I'm not really attracted to masculine men but I'd try it to see what it's like. I wanna try dating a submissive femboy type that sounds really fun.
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Late last year the day before moving house - I miss that circle mirror
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Hojo replied to Thought Art's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
When you wake up you literally become the point of view of the universe. You are the universe the universe has point of view of itself like you have of your own body. The change happens inside of you you close your eyes and behind your eyes inside of you you see the entire universe. The universe can say im the universe. -
Osaid replied to Thought Art's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Actually it's not logical at all. It's more like magic. You're a magician. Things aren't conscious. If all finite things are included, then there is no actual observable independent finite thing. It's like a painting, it includes all of its parts. You can see a chair and a table, but you can't say that seeing is a chair or a table. Similarly...consciousness! -
About done season 2 of it, I never watched the show previously because I thought it was old and boring. Oh boy how wrong I was. It's top 3 show I've watched for sure, maybe tied with it's successor Game of thrones. It's one of the most historically accurate representations of the Roman Republic that existed. I think its worth watching to study history in a fun and entertaining way. Some takeways I've had it from it 1) The structure of the world hasn't changed much in 2000 years. Class warfare and social status dictate a lot of how your life will go. Be born a patrician and you're set. Be born a wealthy merchant's kid and you're doing pretty good. Being born a plebian(lower class) or god forbid a slave and you're fucked. 2) The lower class has it pretty good today. I can't really imagine the reality of being a slave in the mines. I did one summer of manual labor and I was amazed at how much suffering that existence entailed. And that was working on a farm with a bunch of cool dudes vaping and getting high everyday and working only 9 hours a day. Can't imagine these 12 hour days getting whipped. Anything after the industrial revolution and workers right is not bad in comparison. In those times people that thought themselves moral and virtuous had no trouble killing and abusing slaves. Civic rights are a godsend and you can see the evolution of spiral dynamics quite clearly. 3) War has a very strategic purpose in human history. It allows for the relieving of basically the equivalent of "late stage capitalism" in histories throughout time i.e. capital saturation. You send the young men to war and the ones that live get rewarded with the spoils of war. One of the main characters in the show Pullo seems himself as a soldier and his life gets much worse everytime Rome gets a period of peace. Seems that a lot of the reason men are struggling these days is we are bred for warfare and some of us struggle with a boring domestic life. 4) Alliances and reading people is very important. Trusting the wrong people in those times and in today is perhaps literally suicidal or at least will cause you great misery. 5) Empire is inevitable. It seems that a disunited society will always run into an edge and the road to least effort is attacking your neighbours. Caused me to reflect on where we are right now with WW3 looming around the corner. It seems hard to find a way forward that's perpendicular, I think it will clash towards unity one way or another. Hopefully violent warfare is not required but there's no such thing as a stable multipolar world order. We will end up with a united world government at some point. 6) World peace is coming. Watching the history of warfare throughout the time it seems that the reasons for it are predictable and solvable. I have great hope that AI will unlock new avenues of capital that don't require the subjugation of the lower classes. Space travel also shows great promise in letting expansionism get it's way without our self-destruction. Our society revolves around labor one way or another, it was the case in roman times and in caveman times and today. Artificial labor has never been achieved before, industrialism caused the greatest wealth boom in history and surely artificial labor will do the same.
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Thought Art replied to Thought Art's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
“It includes all, and therein, it cannot be said to be any of what it includes. Such is the non-dual nature of "it".” I would add and sort of correct to say, it includes all, and is all, therefore it’s nondual nature allows for the appearance and experience of dualistic qualia… Because it includes all, and it is all, even when you see a chair and a cup and a feeling of sadness… it’s all the same thing. Shiva, as the Non-dual Shiva Tantra would teach is the non-dual nature of Love and a cup and how they are identical in absolute reality. There has to be a oneness, a non-dualness/ nothingness which is infinitely intelligent to have anything in daily human life. Nonduality if it’s true includes all the various things you have experienced in your life. Also, nonduality not being any of what it includes implies two…. And what would separate them? Nothing!! -
Wildly incorrect. I am extremely emotive and angry in expression, often. I show all kinds of emotions and do not suppress. I would like to know what you mean by "normal way" I simply do not direct it AT someone (I genuinely try not to, at least) and try never to attack back. My defence is normally stonewalling. I give others nothing back to further energise their anger when it is directed at me. Most people who are in a highly energised attack state want that energy bounced back to feed them. You've mischaracterised me a few times now. And again - it comes down to what you yourself consistently reinforce; you have little idea what I am like, expressively, in real life. Totally different to the impressions I probably make here 🫠 @Thought Art banter and calling the chippies and trades names is par the course - especially on Australia. I've only had to face really hard aggressive anger when it's someone I do not have rapport with. But when I know someone, I can tell them to fuck off and they understand there is no actual personal ill wishing on my behalf of there wellfare. Context matters 100% I am never one to suppress. I get called unprofessional due to my emptying, more than anything else. But I do not, or try not, to direct my emotions at someone. Or weaponised them. I throw things at the office frequently. I abuse inanimate objects a lot when angry Like you raised it's a big challenge in stocism. It's not about repressing. But holding space for you own emotions, as well as anothers.
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Thought Art replied to Thought Art's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
@Osaid What you say sound logical but that’s not what non-duality is. If reality is consciousness it’s the most conscious thing in existence by definition. If infinite didn’t include finite things (which there paradoxical aren’t even your pinky is infinite) then it would be finite not infinite. Non-duality doesn’t imply not two. It’s also a mental construct you have. I am in a room for example and I see a bottle and an iPad. The non-dual nature of this is that the iPad and bottle are the same thing, just appearing differently. Non-duality in daily human life is the sort of duality through artificial divisions. I mean, you admit you see more than one thing around you. In the oneness of your consciousness. From the Tao came the 10,000 things. This is essentially the Non-duality is the precursor for anything else. Reality has to be One and united. Has to be God, and it’s also happen to be an infinite mind. If you assume the mapping of non-duality you have is correct why is it riddled with paradox? -
Osaid replied to Thought Art's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Non-dual simply means "not-two". Therein, non-duality and duality isn't actually the same as non-duality. Because there's two. Infinite and finite isn't actually the same as infinite. Because there's two. So, in actuality... Finite and infinite is still finite. Non-duality and duality is still duality. Indeed, there can only be "one". The eternal nature of reality. So-called "God". Ineffable and undefinable. This "one" is not a property of a separate thing, like a person, or a person who is conscious. Because it is timeless, and therein, "already the case". You can't become it, because you already are it. It's literally all there is. Simply called, the present moment. It includes all, and therein, it cannot be said to be any of what it includes. Such is the non-dual nature of "it". If there is a consciousness which is the only thing, it wouldn't be the most conscious thing in the universe. It wouldn't even be in the universe, and it wouldn't even be a thing. -
Some of them are like that but I don't think that's the majority. And as a conscious man who's picking a mother for your children it would be your duty to identify such traits and either work with your partner to solve it or to not date people that are too deep into neuroticism or narcissism. It's funny you talk about the Congo, I plan to do a world tour over the next few years and date women from all over and my dad is planning on doing some work in Africa specifically Chad not Congo but perhaps I will try dating an illiterate village girl and I'll report back on how that went. Women are very different in different places in the world, it's become a trend to hate on western women because they're too neurotic. I think a lot of them are great and worth investing into but I'm quite curious to check out places like Colombia, Africa and Eastern Europe and seeing how women compare.
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I agree with you. I think a lot of people demonize bodycount because of a sour grapes situation more than anything factual though. Generally it comes from men not knowing how to sleep with a lot of women/attractive women or men that can but then end up mistrusting and fundamentally not knowing how to vet a quality partner. Let alone the hypocritical influencers that are hypersexual but then demonize women that are also promiscuous. Even if we go away towards the topic of bodycount and sex and more towards love, people are scared to death of that as well! My favourite insight towards this is when Dr Helen Fisher set out to study love and break it down scientifically for her phd, she was highly discouraged from researching it and one peer review literally told her it's unstudiable as it's part of the supernatural lol. Good interview to watch overall.
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Breakingthewall replied to Someone here's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Yes but also the king and the archbishop believed they could go to hell. Hindus believed this too, the Romans could go to Tartarus, and Buddhists to multiple hells and horrible reincarnations. There has always been an intuitive idea of cause and effect. -
If someone did awaken to realize they were God, in a complete state of omnipresent consciousness… they would be the most conscious thing in the universe. If anyone did this, that would be true. This is only true if it’s possible, if that’s the true nature of reality, consciousness and if you are truly God. Only by actually becoming God, can someone truly know God due to its ontological nature. This does not negate non-duality. For those who have studied non-dual shiva tantra or even Taoism they would know from the Tao, or from Shiva… God, which is perfect union with itself totally awake and eternal… comes all our finite reality. If God is true, and the big bang is not then the true science would have to include God, Awakening and Infinity. I have not seen a single person completely strongman the big bang. They always say “nothing existed, but if we bring in X…. Then they changes everything”….. True understanding would have to close the gap between consciousness and the origin of consciousness. Reality that created itself would have to remerge into to completely understand and awaken to itself that its what it is and always has been. Then, if someone had done more philosophical work at a deeper, more broad level awakened and then returned to human consciousness they would be able to articulate this Oneness, this omnipresent truth of the fundamental nature of reality to others who are still in the dream. But, they could only communicate with with their finite psychology, limited human understanding, biases, imperfections, survival considerations, social contexts, etc. Other humans with no deep philosophical, meditative, and awakening experience would find that individual extremely threatening. They would accuse him of all sorts of things. If this is possible. But belief or disbelief isn’t good enough. If this is true, that it’s possible and can be done by most humans… but, we have never considered this widely as a species it’s surely going to be controversial because it threatens everything we know to be true. Humans literally kill and bomb over this. Humans kill for survival and to defend their relative walled garden of partial truths or even falsehoods. To me this would suggest that reality is by design not to expose us to our true nature as God. Though, over time it was built in to awaken of those who chose to do this. If it’s true. I can see that being the case. There is clearly an intelligent design to human life with lots of relative spiritual teachings, beliefs, states, religions, etc. All this is good. Finite relative reality is good. Being God all the time, being totally aware of this isn’t all it’s cut out to be forever. It’s good to sleep because I, we, have forever…. Forever. So, enjoy the dream of being human, of debating, of trying to make sense of everything and the drama. It’s all here for us to experience. But, if it’s not possible then it’s false. And, someone could think they experienced this but didn’t and it could still ultimately be true or it could be false. This is very confusing. But, how do we know what is true about the fundamental nature of reality, mind, consciousness, the origin of existence, the meaning of life, etc? Can we take any other humans word for this? Even Leo’s? No. No symbolic system is good enough. No authority in another human. If only we could directly experience what is true…. If we don’t want to pick up beliefs than we simply can’t know. So what is true that requires not believing? How does state of consciousness, which is prior to belief play into that? With regards to Leo… Expecting a guy on YouTube to be a saint, to never make a mistake, to make you feel good, when he admits to being an asshole makes no sense. He has never hidden that he is a jerk and even has a video on it. Plus, you guys are often jerks to him. So, watch for hypocrisy. I am a fan of the videos. I’m not convinced of it all being accurate. But, it’s pretty good. It helps me avoid a lot of illusion, make sense of how to approach the big picture. But, it’s a human doing it. Sooo…. I don’t expect perfection. These videos and these interactions with one man, can’t be how you go about spirituality in its entirety. Reality is brutish, it’s twisted its kind and loving but also war and bombs and sickness. You have to contend with this brutal, twisted reality we all share. All humans are in this game of survival and all by definition of being finite will have limitations, corruptions, ego, times when they aren’t kind to you, times when they don’t tickle you. Yes, many spiritual teachers are more sweet, kind, and considerate in how they speak. Leo is not like that. He has never been like that. Yet, you choose on your own free will to interact with him. Why? There is a whole mountain range of spiritual teachings out there. Explore them. Explore science explore meditation, yoga, Qigong, various mystical texts. Explore this wondering world of human knowledge and potential. I am okay with people being offended by Leo. I don’t really care about that. His actions aren’t malicious in my view. People may never agree with me, and I’m fine with that. But, if you think I’m not a warrior you are wrong. I’m kind, I’m considerate. But, I am not nice. This is a moment in time. Humans are not fully evolved. We still have religions and belief systems held together by survival, symbolic understanding and feelings emotions and comfort. None of that is true. We have a science full of corruption, religions developed by ancient tribes who still hold human kind. Is human evolution some sweet and pretty little thing? Is that how you expect it to go? No. It’s going to be ugly and confusing and challenging. Painful. Scary. Brutish often. Even in this work, people have to have backbones against those with gross double standards.
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Kid clearly has issues. Good for noticing. I would consider family counseling in his situation since it sounds like he's not confident in his family bonds. Counseling should help lead to additional constructive behavior relationship wise, like spending more quality time and improved understanding his specific needs. Have him also tested for neurodivergence so he can get proper support (the earlier in life the better) and perhaps moved to a different school. You could also take martial arts classes with him as his confidant to build some confidence. Maybe enroll him into boy scouts or some other activity to expose him to more social opportunities and experience.
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Ok, let's say that I agree. Then I could say that those women are completely incapable of giving love and life to their children because they are neurotic people trapped in their self-image, living in a state of perpetual semi-depression. Perhaps from the outside they appear high-class, but perhaps an illiterate woman from a village in the Congo has the open heart that they have closed, and that is what a mother will give her children: an open heart, not comparative neurosis. So who is worse in the dating market? Honestly I don't know
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That makes sense, I don't know the situation with valach, there's plenty people coming at this from disgust of people because they're not getting their needs met from them. We moved far away from the main conversation which was body count. The main point I made was that hook up culture brain is not compatible with partnership brain and that's one of the major reasons people don't like body count. And that body count represent something specific about the person and why you wouldn't want to date them. "wanting to sleep with women across multiple cities, build a polycule, experience BDSM from abundance" perfectly fine that you want this and it's completely incompatible with the kind of partnership most people need that aren't highly social butterflies that have the exact same desire and lifestyle as you. You can't do normal dating like this, you're going to find someone with the exact same lifestyle as you. So we can see how this whole lifestyle which caused someones high body count, all links back to the fact that body count has some meaning and it's not completely arbitrary lifestyle → high count → meaning → compatibility
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Stay well everyone, I will focus on my project here. 1,2,3,4!!!
