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caspex replied to Meeksauce's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
I mean it's not fixed that you visit those realms as a human. You could also visit it as a being that enjoys hell. In which case, hell would be heaven while heaven would seem like hell. Wait, so if what's hell is determined by how you absorb any experience, you'd have already experienced hell if you ever suffered deeply, right here on earth. -
Yes exactly - which is why I raised that 'skill' is a touch broad of a term, as it can reference more than just technical ability. Original aesthetics are very close to what I think of as individuals with an artists vision or a directorial eye.
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Oppositionless replied to Meeksauce's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Yep. It's where the 1% are from. - Today
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Joshe replied to Joshe's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Leo disagrees. But I agree with you. -
Oppositionless replied to AmIEvenReal's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
I know of two . Martin Ball and David Carse. But then again permanent enlightenment in general is also quite rare, I don't think 10% of spiritual teachers are really enlightened. -
Joshe replied to Joshe's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
I get the sense you're deep into solipsistic idealism, and I'm not negating any of that, but those metaphysics don't escape this mechanism. I've tried. Love wasn't even in your vocabulary until Leo introduced it to you. Then, after enough inquiry, you found it. That's the exact generative process I've been describing: accumulation -> iteration -> render. The concept preceded the finding, because that's how consciousness works. It accumulates and iterates on pre-existing stuff to create something new. Have you ever analyzed what a realization is and how they come into existence? If you analyze the chain of events and the relevant accumulations/iterations that involve a realization, you can (or at least I can) see the primary links of the chain that led to it. Even if you fail to see the chain, the chain is there. If you analyze those chains, you'll realize the realizations are never "discovered" - they're generated. A few questions: 1. Has this idea ever crossed your mind? 2. How does one distinguish "I found what was always there" from "consciousness rendered what I aimed at"? 3. If it turned out that your 40+ realizations were generated rather than discovered, how would that impact you? lol, this is literally the best video you could have pointed me to. Here's the opening quote: "There are no facts, only interpretations... except for my deepest realizations, those are absolute facts." Maybe you guys should rewatch the video and see if you're applying your principles consistently. Lastly, this pattern of assuming I need to be educated on basic shit is annoying and arrogant. The video you pointed me to is so basic I couldn't make it past 15 mins. I figured that stuff out in my 20s through simple observation of reality. Didn't need books, a talking head, or pen and paper, lol. The difference is I didn’t merge my knowledge with my identity. -
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bazera replied to AmIEvenReal's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
@Leo Gura Did you become this way after hundreds of trips or was couple God Realization trips enough for you to recognize God sober? -
True. But Andy Warhol has an original aesthetic like Elmore James does that makes their artworks great. You don't need to be technically excellent at skill to create great art. You can have an original aesthetic that is amazing. This is why some overly-technical music sounds awful in a way because it's too many notes or some other balance is off.
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https://youtu.be/loB0kmz_0MM?si=6em03eHamotrX_1G
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AI is not a scam, but it is overhyped. Using AI to make music is not a scam, but it is problematic and limited in many ways. A CEO's job is to run a profitable company. So he is doing his job. His job is not to make good music or good musicians.
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The CEO of Suno is one such example of a scammer. Explicitly only caring about the money and trying to convince people to drop music skill aquisition and trade it for quick AI songs which of course are dumb because to make a good promt you still need a skilled artist. It is not even fun not being able to create the music by your own. It is absolute and exclusively a scam. Music made by AI was something that inevitably someone would have created. But it could've been directed by a mature person and not such an asshole. A mature person would promote such app as that only complements in specific occasions and train people to spot those ocassions. A mature person would not lead people into brainrot.
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I am aware of that stuff, it can get very interesting indeed, but after awhile, its the same patterns over and over again, eventually the cycle no longer provides growth, unless you yourself are actually playing rather than watching other people play all the time. That's at least what I have come to realize in life in general. For example: I used to watch people all the time playing music and sports and singing and until i started playing and practicing myself. I finally understood why i watched so much and realized i needed this for my own self-therapy and healing that no screen or watching others could provide me as deeply, besides the inspiration. Then there was something new and unpredictable every time, and growth out of general day to day patterns started to occur, and that's when it clicked to me more deeply when Bashar said that "physical action" is the "language" of physical reality, that if we aren't living what we watch, preach, read, exchange with, it only becomes dead weight on our beings and a burden. Ultimately these sports are a symbology for winning at life IMO, we all wanna win, but competitive winning is a lower form of consciousness how i see it today, you can win at life without competition. Buddha did it, Christ did it, many others did, and excelled far more than any sports star or competition-based system ever did. I could of been a great soccer player and even basketball but i dropped it when a higher consciousness took over. Pissed my father off a lot because he was hoping i become a millionaire and fulfill his desires, but i found far greater peace and dropped trying to always be the best at everything, because I mostly was, and my ego was becoming too toxic, then the universe would slap me in the face again and again. No right or wrongs ofc, just my two cents, eventually we all need to level up and drop things that no longer help us grow and expand.
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To some degree. But its more about the density and depth of the insights. My writing style is pretty causal and simple. Some verbal wit, but I'm not trying to impress people with fancy language.
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James123 replied to James123's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
@Someone here @Natasha Tori Maru @Breakingthewall @Joseph Maynor by the way, I love you guys. -
James123 replied to James123's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Freedom is already appreciation. -
Raze replied to AmIEvenReal's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
It is extremely rare to have a permanent enlightenment from psychedelics. Don’t bother pursuing it through these means. -
Well I disagree to an extent because I could have been a thousand times more intelligent and creative if it wasn't for toxic society behaviors which I have inherited. That is normalized addictions, making money out of producing addicted people.
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The ebb and flow of life Balance
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They exist nonetheless, they're something. An illusion, because they captivate you like temptation. It takes a lot of effort to position yourself away from their gravitational force even for a moment.
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It is not trivial, because what matters is the collective properly using their minds. It would be imposible for an individual to properly use his mind if their environment is polluted because some group didn't think through the consecuenses and being creative about solutions. Is all about making conections hidden at first glance. And the ego takes the first glance as ultimate reality and it reacts relative to that point, which is a mistake because truly there are hidden conections everywhere. So the ultimate skill to have is to effortless connect dots everywhere anytime. That's what knowing thyself means, at a deep level but also at a personality level. When you start understanding that giving space to your mind will lead naturally to you "waking up" more and reveal more then you find gold. That's what the mind does naturally when it lands in caregiving hands.
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What's sort of awful is the music that the masses like that is insanely popular for no good reason.
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The Fetus Blesser replied to The Fetus Blesser's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
I told him you said hi. Next time you will say hi to him yourself... on our podcast 😈 In the pod he says something along the lines of "I've gone further with 5-Meo than anyone I know" and I said "Well I'd be curious to hear from Leo about that" -
Fried again. But pretty good night though. The hugging problem comes up again though. So a dude I barely ever talked to but who is kind of in our group gave me a hug today. AAaaah, this complicates the whole power dynamics thing, because when I give him a hug again but refuse to do so with other people, but doesnt it seem rude to not hug him ... blablabla .. It cost me an enormous amount to give someone a hug first. The underlying structure is that I am not truly confident in myself socially I think. .. I gotta give this new girl I have my eyes on atm a new name. She was constantly there for like a year and kind of grew on me. She has good style as well. I could combine these two and call her something like butterfly which both grew and is also stylish but I think I just stick to sylish. She is the stylish girl. I got this kind of love letter either from her or her friend which might be a pretty difficult situation. Men I got pretty tired at the end. I went to a restaurant with friends before which was great as it warmed me up socially but it was also a lot. So I am afraid that my small talk skills werent on point. We kind of found this group though which might grow somewhere.
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Enlighten me, share your thoughts. Sincerely. I never liked Biden out of the Democrat field, I did like Harris though. Don't like Newsom, but any of these will destroy republicans long-term. You just don't want someone corrupt or dumb, like AOC or Bernie, out-dumbing republicans. Nothing Biden did aside from running in 24' "led to disaster", nothing policy wise, you're just butt-hurt. We screwed up in 2016(I opposed Hilary in the primary too, don't like hilary), Hilary was shoed in like Biden 2024. We need more participation in the primaries. Still, the structural problem is the socialist rhetoric, those were all acute problems.
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It might be more accurate and less confusing to say 'it is arbitrary who decides the top great masters of each art movement', rather than state 'their skill is overrated'. Because it is the institutional power, group consensus, politics, historical accident, access and resultant group think that I see as the issue. Many of these artist's have skill in the creative and directive realms - some receive accolades for innovating or applying their vision in a never before seen way. These, as well as tool use, control, materials, accuracy of rendition (proportion, anatomy)... then we can go on into perceptual sensitivity; colour relationships, spatial tension, rhythm (negative/positive space), emotional rendition, balance, harmony. Narrative flow. Stylistic rules. Skill begins to point toward an artist that can decide better. Direct. It might help to define what is meant by 'skill'. It is too nebulous a term to be used without defining what we mean, as combined with all of the above an element of subjectivity is present in what determines 'skill'. Some of the greatest masters are not known for the technical ability. Some just for what they introduced as a concept IE Andy Warhol. All of the above is sort of why I dislike art critics so much. You cannot just measure it with a ruler, see it conforms and slap 'great' on it.
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