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JoshB replied to AtmanIsBrahman's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Why do you think Buddhism, Hinduism, non duality, (neo) advaita, new age, Taoism, etc. Why do these systems exist? To prevent the full responsibility and realization of yourself as God. These ease the burden and off shore responsibility of creation. -
There is some domain and category error here. Maturity is its own seperate thing in different areas that requires defining before broad claims can be made. How old are you? Do you have a professional career? What field?
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Have you heard of Maslow's hierarchy of needs? I think this model is quite helpful to visualize healthy human development. If you mean my personal dating strategy, it's only complicated for someone who doesn't get it. From my perspective I have fun pursuing different activities, posting myself engaging in them and continuously levelling up my attractiveness level. I read a lot of men on here and in society at large being fed up and overwhelmed with dating and that's a shame. If done right it should be like a video games where as you conquer different hurdles, you get better and better at getting your wants and needs met through attracting high quality people into your life.
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I am not here to defend bypassing like @Majed is doing. But there is huge stretch for you to compare setting up complicated dating schemes to water and drinking. Intimacy and sex are not needs in the sense that you would die without them. How deeply they are linked to your own sense of contentment is individual and depends on the stage of development as well. But they are not comparable.
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You started this fight, ran out of arguments, and now you couldn't resist coming back for one last tantrum. Learn some grace and take your own advice.
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Someone here replied to Someone here's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
I would like to revive this thread because this inquiry is an issue for me for a while now . I wrote this today in my journal . If anyone got insights regarding this topic, please share . “Lately, I require more hours of sleep than I normally do. It does not feel like ordinary physical tiredness. My body does not necessarily feel exhausted, and I do not have a headache or any particular discomfort in my head. It is something subtler. my mind is tired. Not my head or brain . There is a kind of tension within me that I find difficult to locate. It is not in my head, not in my brain, not in any physical place I can point to. It exists somewhere in the experience of being conscious . Or rather in my subconscious mind because Even when I am doing nothing, some part of me seems to remain occupied. Thinking. Anticipating. Worrying about things that have not happened. Trying to understand things that may not have an answer either In the moment or at all . There is an invisible effort involved in all of this, and its exhausting and I’m not sure how to resolve this issue without resorting to bad habits like smoking . When I sleep, I am temporarily released from myself.there is no need to hold myself together. For those hours, the constant internal subconscious activity becomes quiet. Maybe that is why I need more sleep lately “ . and this is OP; “ I was meditating by watching my thoughts arise and fade while remaining as a witness to them which is the simplest meditation technique to me . It simply shows the gap between awareness and the mind or the thinking process. Thoughts which arise in my consciousness are not coming from my own authoring ..they arise on their own and also the mind chatter itself is very clearly and sharply distinct from awareness in the sense that I can observe the mind blabbering from a distance without me needing to engage with it. I have made that line very clear. A lot of times I reach a moment of complete silence of thoughts where there aren’t any thoughts at all present in my awareness but I still feel bad or restless in the back of my mind. I still feel tensed . My facial expression is disturbed and my body is tight instead of loose . I concluded it is because of years of conditioning and years of suffering and memories and the subconscious mind . But if all of what I mentioned now are not accessible directly in my awareness when I reach the zero thoughts phase in meditation..then where are they present ? The only answer that comes up to me is they are in the unconscious mind . But how can something exist and be unconscious? Either a thing is conscious or it doesn’t exist. What am I not getting or getting wrong ?“. -
Intimacy and sex ARE fundamental human drives and also needs. It's why MGTOW as an ideology doesn't work and tends to produce frustrated and bitter individuals. @Majed seems like he's encountering some hard walls in his dating journey but that is not a reason to abandon it altogether. One should temporarily take a break and rethink their strategy if it's not serving their goals though, nothing wrong with that.
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JoshB replied to AtmanIsBrahman's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
That's the thing you've never seen it, you've never seen another mind outside your own. But because your consciousness is absolute any projection you make becomes reality. And this is only achievable because there is nothing outside your mind. Whether you are imagining other or not there still is only your mind and nothing else There can not be others internal experience relative to you because your experience is absolute. Other relative experiences can only be made out of your absolute experience. Which also makes you responsible for absolutely everything. And even most spiritual people can not handle this level of responsibility. It makes the world on your shoulders look like a pebble. -
I'm not going to play your petty games. You got a nasty little demon in you that needs exorcised. We're done here. Move on.
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I do. I would in fact propose that not doing so "says a lot about you as a person" 😉 So phone screens are more dirty than toilet bowls; you're touching it with your hands and touching your face and mouth all the time and you never clean it, yet walking inside with shoes once in a while — which may or may not carry microscopic or macroscopic traces of dog poo for the soles of your socks to pick up which you change every day or so anyway and you clean the floor once a week or so anyway — is supposedly more disgusting. I think we can conclude it's more a religious ritual than a scientifically informed choice to be dogmatic about having shoes on or off inside.
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But running around chasing sex is not a basic need like drinking or eating.
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Nemra replied to AtmanIsBrahman's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
@JoshB, ok. That's what I noticed, that some people think that way. I was mainly talking about others' internal experience being imaginary relative to one's own experience. One time I was in a radically higher state, wherein my experience was revealed as total hallucination and changing limitations were possible. In my ordinary state that's unimaginable. -
Not at all, I would call that dogmatic religious asceticism, not true spirituality. Reality is non-dual; the material world IS God manifest. If your spirituality requires you to abandon physical reality because you can't handle the friction of human connection, you're not transcending life, you're running away from it. Try getting more spiritual and getting beyond eating food and drinking water or taking a dump and let me know how that worked out for you.
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Brother , you are all over the place . Every other day you contradict what you said earlier. I suggest long-time of introspection and spending time figuring out your most authentic desired lifestyle. I know you are a young man and it’s normally to be confused in your age, as you don’t have that much life experience. Do you REALLY Want to be a virgin and single for the rest of your life ? I don’t buy it .
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@LordFall The point of spiritual development is to abandon material ways of thinking and being.
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I would say I'm extremely spiritually developed. I meditate almost daily and each new day I find myself further falling in love with God, reality and my fellow humans. Be careful to not internalize your failures in dating and tell yourself a beautiful tale that you're beyond it now and are actually too developed to appreciate it when you can't even achieve it in the first place. A wise man adapts his strategy when the solution he's trying to solve a problem is not working. Have you tried online dating and hiring a photographer like I've suggested you do a few weeks ago? Read my thread on problem solving if you haven't already, it's way deeper than it seems at first glance. If you were competent at solving your problems you wouldn't have made this thread. No shame in this, just adopt a superior strategy and achieve all your wildest dreams brother! You got this.
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Optogenetics sounds very promising for neuroscience. Will this technology be what turns out brains into fully programmable machines?
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My virginity 😝.
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@LordFall Bro, a good dose of spiritual development would be good for your mind. You're too materialistic and sex oriented.
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@Natasha Tori Maru Yes, i had a relationship with a somewhat mature person as a friendship, but like it's extremely rare to find mature people. Most people are either brainwashed with religion, science, or they're money whores, or drug addicts, etc... At my level of mind, it's rare to find people i can relate to.
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Fuck yeah, thanks for sharing. That's so exciting. The next few years of entertainment are so mind blowing, I'm very glad I started my project when I did. Seems like it's just in time for generative AI to blow it up. I think the web 3 angle with the mixed reality is gonna be a game changer. 2 years from now people will be able to make good games quite easily but it'll just lead to an over supply of generic games. Having novel monetization mechanics and real life events is gonna be revolutionary.
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You had two chances to name a single substantial point and failed both times. There was no "essence" to steelman, just an emotional rant and an embarrassing retreat. Go take a breather, you need it.
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There isn’t a variety of environments anymore, that’s the whole point. We did not evolve to exclusively walk on an extremely hard surface that is completely flat. Yes, there’s rocks people walk on, but the earth is mainly water, dirt and sand. I tried looking up any estimate of what percentage of land is solid rock and there are not even any proper statistics. The best they can account for is low vegetation + exposed rock. Otherwise it’s mainly soft dirt and sand. 7% of land is rock—that is the best guesstimate I could find. But also, there’s a strong correlation with that in elevation/it’s obvious a good percentage of that rock is coming from mountain ranges—we didn’t live in mountain ranges as hunter gatherers. Not really.
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Bro that has to be one of the stupidest thing I've ever seen written lol. There's so many ways to address this but I'll leave you with this It's not because most people have shitty relationships that you can't build a phenomenal one. That's like saying because most people have a basic house, mansions and castles can't exist. I'll be in my castle with my many wives, feel free to be a virgin for life if that's what you want. I suggest you try sleeping with a few baddies and dating the coolest one you find before you give up on dating though.
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... the shed got painted. Now where was I? Oh yes, I was outing myself. Things in general continued this way. But some people noticed the way I was around others, and I was asked outright by my manager (of all people) if I was bi, I was probably about 30 at that time. That really took me aback at the time because it had never even occurred to me that that could be the case. I was so innocent about the whole thing that I wondered "what exactly made him think that about me?". I outright said no, but a seed of awareness had been sown. There were a few gay guys in one of the departments in the college I worked in, and because I flitted between departments (gathering software requirements) I would talk regularly with a lot of folks. I think my general demeanour and interaction with those guys must have been noticed. But, it was also well known that there was a woman in the finance department I crushed on badly. Hence 2 + 2 = bi. That characterisation bothered me for a long time. Firstly because I'd been so unconscious about "how I was" around certain people, some men in particular, and secondly about how I would be perceived by women. It broke through the bubble of my innocence. You see it's very hard to see yourself from a detached point of view, how you feel and behave is largely learnt and expressed unconsciously. It's like having a funny walk, you yourself don't think you walk strangely, but it's as clear as day to other people. That question about being bi, forced me into awareness and made me consciously try to pull back on any behaviours that made me seem "different". I felt a strong need to man up and conform - I just did not want the label no matter what - I'd already spent most of my life feeling different and didn't need any more of that thank you. It was a very difficult process to sort out for me and took many years of watching myself and being aware of my behaviours, especially around men. I mostly succeeded in being more masculine in my expression overall, but I can still slip at times especially with alcohol. Drink responsibly kids. For a long while also I've found myself cross-dressing, secretly trying on a girlfriends' clothing in their absence. Tights are thing for me for some reason. And if I could just shave my legs and present as a full on woman in public when I was in the mood I would. My face is too masculine for it though, although I'm a bit of twink physically. Women get to wear some cool shit! Is no fair. So. I know I'm attracted to women definitely. But am I attracted to men? This is a question I find super hard to answer with any certainty. I'm in general not attracted to men's bodies as I am to women's. I am more attracted to pretty looking men, for a flavour of that: Keanu Reeves, Brad Pitt, David Bowie, Johnny Depp etc. But I can also appreciate a good physique in a man, muscular but not overly so: Bruce Lee. But I'm not gushy about it like I would be with a woman like Zooey Deschanel or Nicole Kidman or Zhang Ziyi. Whether I've overly repressed my attraction to men or not I don't know at all, but I do know it's currently very asymmetric as compared to my attraction to women. Would I outright want to out myself as part of my process in the next month? My immediate gut reaction is no, but I may have to shed that in future and take the consequences. This is mostly in the name of authenticity and releasing that tension around suppressed expression. I do know that things are far more accepted now than they were, but it still isn't necessarily easy. My life is built around presenting as a het male, even if I go to that coffee shop just to see that guy. Shrug.
