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For my BSc, only one half of a single course (out of 17) was dedicated to "abnormal psychology" (i.e. mental illnesses and their treatments). For my MSc, essentially the same (out of 5). But of course, different mental illnesses are mentioned across different courses (maybe particularly in a course we had on trauma and attachment), but other than that, really a lot of other stuff. That said, I did not do a MSc in clinical psychology (which also includes a year of practice); I did it in behavioral neuroscience (which is still psychology), so maybe if I had taken clinical psychology instead, I would've probably dove more into treatment and associated mental illnesses. But then again, that's my point: it's mostly in treatment it shows up. I get it. But yeah, we're talking about philosophy here. And I don't think you strictly need the practical sides to attain high levels of theoretical knowledge in either engineering or biotechnology. But it's of course good if you're going to practice in those fields (as is virtually always the point with getting a degree).
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Wow the posts are 8 hours apart. I really do spent a lot of time at my social spots.
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I didn't feel good at my social spot at all today. It reflected even at my table tennis performance, I played a lot worse. I think its all just because of the girl, I underestimate routinely how much I actually want/ need a girlfriend. I ended up knitting for most of the time. Another girl I previously kinda rejected even looked so much more interesting then before. She was showing some skin with her top. She is super skinny (not unhealthily so) and somehow this was the first evening I found that attractive. But hard to paddle back to her. Then later she actually showed up. Quick hello in a turn and no hug. The language seemed pretty clear. But then we played some board games in the group again. Another female friend of mine was randomly at the spot also and we shared a quick conversation. She does look good and it gave me a short boost. Bad in this context perhaps though. .. What I find interesting, people around me are often hugging, not hugging people around them depending on what the situation asks for. I feel very bound to the rules but when I see it with other people, I don't really care. I don't mind if they change the rules. I have more freedom in that respect then I allow myself. I think the most important thing is that it is genuine. Rather a genuine fist bump then a half hearted hug.
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The problem is that their critiques aren’t fundamental enough. They aren’t questioning the entire rationalist paradigm. What you find in Leo’s work is a special combination: some knowledge of academic philosophy, lots of knowledge about spirituality, spiritual practices, financial independence that allows for truth-seeking as a life purpose, complete autonomy of mind, and pioneering use of psychedelics. That’s why almost no one understands reality as deeply. And this isn’t just to idolize Leo— it’s something we can do too, if we don’t fall into all the traps along the way.
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Yes, Shilo didn't go further into this - there sort of wasn't room either. The conversation naturally flowed past it.
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@Natasha Tori Maru informed consent vs uninformed. @Leo Gura I was actually impressed with Michael’s (Shilo - middle name) simplicity on the subject. You did really well, genuinely. Feedback: Purely going by what she said - Directly quoted - “You told us that you were going to explain three things. the ultimate structure of existence, the nature of love, and the nature of God.” Some interviews are more casual than others, however I would spend some time delineating all four subjects (inclusive of when she tripped you up on defining love, despite you, as best as I can infer, drawing a distinction between human love and universal love) at their connection point that makes moving between them seamless during an interview setting. I get that it was your first interview in a long while, but those subjects at their core, went only partially answered despite it being the stated conceptual drivers for the interview, as stated by Anastasia. I would ease back in future interviews on using terms like “truth psychopath”, it can sound edgy but on subjects like morality where people are either less informed and therefore a little dogmatic or people that have thought deeply on the subjects, it can be harder to reach people; which is kinda one of the points of the interview, to reach more people. I would also do the same for critiques of certain areas like academia as one example, the more refined your points on interviews like these the more of a win-win it becomes as they are both genuinely open minded warm people. Broad critiques are the strategic drawcard, but on the reel in to getting the actual catch, like getting an interview, it’s laid out mapped concretely. You’re handling very difficult subjects, and the people that want to listen, want to really listen, and like strapping a load of timber on a truck, the better you do it the safer your message is going to land safely home where people will be most receptive. You’re uniquely positioned as a conversant in the spiritual demography, capitalise on that devastatingly. Irrespectively, 1. You kept composure under sharp pushback. Anastasia and Michael have had some really ego fuelled guests. 2. Framed “relative vs absolute” to defuse literalism. 3. Flagged survival/incentives as bias generators (institutions, self, culture). 4. Validated boundaries (“leave abuse,” don’t tolerate harm) so nonduality isn’t pure passivity. That was an excellent distinction. 6. Prompted epistemic humility a number of times. Like distinguishing belief/speculation from direct insight. You really underscored distinction as a grounding concept being the foundation to your drive over your journey, this positions you as someone that could break the linings of many different kinds of demographics, making you a valuable guest in any interview the better you grt at this overtime. Good luck on the next interview, excellent overall, and we all loved the robe. Best wishes.
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With avoidance / anxiously attached individuals you will feel a push/pull hot/cold effect in the relationship. This is a big flag something isn't being communicated properly.
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Yimpa replied to Oeaohoo's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
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He had a healthy upbringing from his parents. Secure attachment is all behaviour based. He was emotionally available in that he could share what he felt without making it my job to fix it. Could communicate when he was hurt by me without turning it into a shut-down or blowup. Didn't disappear when shit got intense. Steady presence. A big one was that conflict did not threaten the bond we had - which was something that was totally foreign to me. Disagreement wasn't felt by me as abandonment, repair would happen because I didn't fear the relationship was going to implode. He trusted me unless given a reason not to; there were no shit tests or loyalty games. My personal independence wasn't taken as a rejection, and he was VERY encouraging of autonomy. Words and behaviour matched. BIG ONE. Ego didn't get in the way of the overall health of the relationship. Giving and receiving was no worries at all... There is probably more but this is off the top of my head
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@zurew FWIW I see what you are pointing to regarding terms being very loosely defined in Leo's worldview. I raised this well over a year ago somewhere. I mainly see loose definitions being used as a slippery loophole out of being 'wrong' in some arguments. But at the same time, words are very tricky, as they lack inherent meaning without context. Many of Leo's statements lack context as he shoots for the truth in isolation, removed from context. I do find some of his statements fall apart when viewed from different angles. When this happens it immediately flags lack of coherence in my mind. Normally you can push further nuance out of him which clarifies meaning and intent. Sometimes he does this intentionally to provoke contemplation - but it can really confuse some users also.
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@Leo GuraIt is interesting how you explained what love is, and how there is nothing immoral about understanding others/loving, even if what is being loved is seen as "evil" by the world... and yet their minds could not grasp it. It truly CAN NOT be explained in a few minutes. The more you see it is all love... the more loving you are. It makes sense. They don't understand that they are fighting against your "theory" because it hurts their survival to do so. They are so stuck in survival that they can't see it's survival... I am not different. Not really. I still operate on a survival level. I am trying to figure out how to survive more consciously. That is okay. Yet I also look around and cry at the beauty of reality. Of existence itself. I had no idea Leo did that as well. I must have forgotten. It felt really cool to know I am not alone in that. It also makes sense... The shitting on the floor part was kind of funny. The hosts were like
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You also chose your parents before you incarnated for very specific reason and soul lesson.
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@Natasha Tori Maru Can you elaborate some more on this point? What made him securely attached in your experience? In what specific way did he show up as securely attached partner? I'm trying to figure out what secure attachment means and how it shows up in practice.
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Got to watch out with offgasing toxic chemics from the chair. The chemicals block hormons and lower cognitive function. There's a lot of studies showing how longterm sitting is bad for you, but all of these studies are wrong. What's actually bad for you Is the air in the room which these experiments were taken place in. It's not sitting that's bad for you, It's breathing toxic air for an extended period of time without moving. So this is a blind spot in the study because no one knows air even exists for the most part.
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Yes I consumed weed from 13 on and off all my life. Nowadays i have a very healthy relationship with the medicine. And it all changed after I started to source my own seeds, grow my own medicine like i was raising my own children with love and care and taught me a deep connection to nature and the universe and about the same time i had a spiritual awakening so it all landed hand in hand. The medicine then was only smoked with spiritual intention and purpose of healing so it was more profound experience than any street weed i ever had and i would soften sit in my garden and reflect on life or clean and reorganize my whole house / space i shared with my mum and sister and got really creative ideas to get my life together. Growing and consuming my own creation helped me reduce intake significantly from daily use, sometimes multiple times a day to 3 - 4 times a week, to 1 - 2 times a week, to 2 - 4 times a month, to once in a blue moon, now its very random and more for ceremonial, healing, supportive and spiritual / medicinal purposes so the routine and rhythm is gone but the dance continues in its own unique way. I never quit because i don't believe quitting helps, i tried quitting many times but that only leads to relapse when in some situations life puts me in, its actually more helpful than not, and if i am not touching it due to quit, it can somewhat interfere with the natural process and unfoldment of my life story and path, rather, letting go and letting be seems to align best for me and not "quitting things" per se, and it naturally falls off when its no longer needed. Like all psychedelics, i find it very useful to integrate the sober life experience, and vice versa. Sometimes after i book or a phase of doing or practicing something and not having weed for a while, when i have the medicine it all becomes compiled and amplified and understood in one powerful session. All that i learned, absorbed, becomes the AH-HA i needed. Its like this for all psychedelics for me, the psychedelic helps integrate the sober experience and the sober experience helps integrate the psychedelic. Its a dance. It also depends on your lifestyle, environment, situation in life, sometimes its no longer useful, sometimes it helps a lot. When i am in nature in a peaceful and supportive environment, i lose the need for it, when i am in the city with general stresses, it can help a lot. I also notice when i am eating denser and lighter changes the way we require different things / medicines / needs.
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This is some wild slippery mental hoop-de-loop for not putting ones balls on the line with an argument to refute. Debating 101. I suppose I can just make wild claims and never have to justify anything. Courts will love this new system!
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Lol. You do understand right that you can find more overall criticism of the field of science and philosophy and rationality on the site I linked than what Leo managed to produce in his entire life. There is this unjustified myth in your head that you just picked up from Leo and never ever questioned and just taken for granted that there is this big consensus among philosophers across positions on metaphysics, science, rationality, epistemology etc.
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Ramasta9 replied to JoshB's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
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The issue with the morality talk was the focus had to be only on why morality is relative and not dabble in love equals God or anything like that, mixing these two things together for someone who doesn't understand morality is relative we'll just confuse them more. And will dig a deeper hole. Metaphysics and ontology are not the first steppingstones for understanding morality. That comes after. They haven't grasp relativity, so already the whole talk on metaphysics was flying over their head
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I notice i only go to video games when i am struggling to process deeper issues and life situations are quite dense and not much space to express, feel, integrate. Soon as i feel better again, lighter and more myself, the video games lose their appeal very shortly after. I ask myself, what am i escaping from here? when i could play the video game of life? I noticed at one point when i moved back into the city, the video game i played as a child would include things like woodcutting, fishing, crafting, firemaking, farming ect... when i was lacking the ability to do those tasks in real life due to the artificial city environment around me. Mentally it helped in some way, but physiologically it was lacking the whole body and action itself that would help process and release things when i was living in nature and doing those things first hand and more directly. Daily tasks as such help tremendously, but living on screens and computers, we miss out on 90% of the body of life. And being all crammed and boxed in, energy that needs to be released becomes entrapped. Watch this https://www.instagram.com/reel/DSe_X-6jIOK/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link&igsh=NTc4MTIwNjQ2YQ==
