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NewKidOnTheBlock replied to LordFall's topic in Society, Politics, Government, Environment, Current Events
Apparently, Anthropic decided to pull the plug on Fable 5 due to US goverments's security concerns, very interesting. It is no longer available for Claude -
I updated my post. You can disagree , but your point does not address the issues that I outlined. From now on its on Leo to actually respond to those points if he wants to.
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Joseph Maynor replied to ladelle's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
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Respectfully, do you think there might be a small chance that you're projecting some past experiential residues onto this one ?
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Migrations can also bring great changes for the better in various fields. The Romani people—often historically termed "Gypsies"—migrated from the Punjab region of northern India into Europe between the 8th and 14th centuries. Their enduring legacy encompasses immense contributions to European arts, music, and linguistics. Freddie Mercury, considered to be the greatest rock singer ever and who himself is of British-Indian origin, had an iconic opera collaboration in 1986 with the legendary Spanish operatic soprano Montserrat Caballé and who had herself been influenced by Gitano or Spanish Romani musical culture and championed the same. Their partnership resulted in the globally celebrated 1988 anthem "Barcelona," which brilliantly merged rock grandeur with operatic soprano vocals. In India itself, the zoroastrians and Jews who migrated to India as refugees due to Arab and Roman persecution respectively, were noted for their contributions in various fields that enriched the country in multiple domains. India similarly hosted the Bahai refugees from Iranian persecution. The Bahai Lotus temple in Delhi, India is now considered an architectural wonder and symbolic of Indian architecture like the Taj Mahal and Konark Sun Temple.
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Mellowmarsh replied to Kiyo1104's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
There’s no room in here for two. This town ain’t big enough for the both of us, and it ain’t me who’s going to leave. No one comes and no one leaves, and no one is a beggar in their own kingdom. -
@Natasha Tori Maru When someone says humans are profound waste of time that say nothing, that does not sound like someone rational to me. Does it to you? That sounds to me like someone who's jaded and gave up. I think my way is the correct way to engage with the world because it doesn't get me nor the people I see adopting it to that result. @integral I'm not talking about idealism. Feeling the way you feel is common, as I said it's covered in the video I linked above. If you wanna look at paradigms that lead to getting out of it as idealism then that seems like a closed off perspective more than reality. @WonderSeeker Which of my assumptions were wrong? I'm trying to put myself in your shoes and explain some things that you've said from what I know about psychology and sexuality. I could totally be wrong.
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Have you guys read Jiddu Krishnamurti? If yes, what are your thoughts on his teachings?
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Mellowmarsh replied to VeganAwake's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
I don’t. I doesn’t know. I is already being known. The known knows nothing. -
MGM Grand in Las Vegas.
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Breakingthewall replied to VeganAwake's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
How do you know that? - Today
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Yeah it's a tricky business. Some things link up, or could be perceived as linking up, with the definition and some things don't. For example: "demanding unwavering loyalty." I think I have heard Leo say many times that we should not just listen to his teachings, but rather we should study the work of many spiritual teachers.
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Mellowmarsh replied to ladelle's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
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IMO, at the very least, there has to be an authoritarian element, not just "strange beliefs". I spoke a more strict definition before, but I wont repeat that just to keep things more loose for everyone. There is also a useful distinction we can make between cult dynamics and an actual cult. Cult dynamics can exist in lots of different areas of society without belonging to a full-blown cult. One dynamic wouldn't make for a cult, but if a lot of them co-existed together, then that could reasonably be defined as a cult. This is similar to how the DSM-5 diagnoses disorders like BPD and NPD. One BPD trait doesn't make you BPD, but enough of them together does. In my opinion, the deciding factor comes down to whether Actualized.org is being authoritarian or not, and to what degree. At the very least, there are definitely quite a few cult dynamics at play already. It has also come to my attention that I can't speak for everyone on the forum. Maybe Leo is DMing people things I don't know about. This made me realize how important it is for other members to speak up too, and also the fact that it might not be possible for me to decide on my own whether it is or isn't a cult based on my current information. Here are some Google AI results which I think are pretty accurate:
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@Joseph Maynor 🤗 Where are you? Spectacular location
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It use to annoy me that there was this guy out there claiming to be the most conscious person in the world. Somehow I don't even think about that anymore. Not quite sure how that happened
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@Natasha Tori Maru Thank you.
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I think it is complex because the term cult is applied different in different domains as it applies: Sociology, religious studies, psychology, popular usage, law, anthropology and history etc They all have different definitions going from pure or conceptual to applied and evaluative or pragmatic.
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Mellowmarsh replied to VeganAwake's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
The "it" does not refer to a specific person, or object. Instead, it functions as a dummy subject (or placeholder) Dummy subject see nothing, know nothing. -
Joseph Maynor replied to ladelle's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
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You can make the statement "there is no such thing as a good cult' if you define cult as a binary thing. So, if I were to adopt Leo's terminology and strict definition - this would be true. But since I adopt that a cult and cult dynamics are a spectrum - I would not agree. Cult-lite might not be so bad, it might not have all the hallmarks of a cult. Namely - the very bad characteristics. So lets say I brainstorm the spectrum for what a cult is: Strong devotion to a leader, idea, or doctrine. Isolation from outside influences, such as family, friends, or mainstream society. Pressure to conform. Discourage questioning or criticism. Control over members' behavior, information, or relationships. Us-versus-them mentality, viewing outsiders as misguided or hostile. The above marked up in red might be the bad cults. The normal text might be the non-bad cult-lite When we all have these alternate terms, the whole thing gets bricked. We cannot really have a good discussion until terms and defined. And the term "cult" is not defined
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I'm just curious, in this whole discussion I have been asked a couple of times now to state my definition of a cult. Is there really no officially accepted definition of a cult out there ?
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I hear you. I remember Leo saying something to the effect of: there is no such thing as a good cult. What do you think ?
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Thank you, yeah my gut says we're okay.
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There are great general, and then great specific self help books. The general self help books, which are usually the classic ones, are great for inspiring general motivation. That's why they are classics.
