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Mellowmarsh replied to Mellowmarsh's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
“ I am not my thoughts. I am not other people’s thoughts about me. I am not the thoughts that I think people think of me. I am not the thoughts I think that I’m a lesser or lower status than some other person. Or even that I’m a higher or higher status than some other person. Present in the hear and now, Present without patterns, Present without perception. I am all patterns, I am all perception. I am no pattern, I am no perception. “ -
Everything is pure consciousness. Changing brain chemistry just makes it more obvious. Misinterpreted as "becoming more conscious", but I digress. Lower DMN activity is a correlate because there's a lowered ability for self-referencing, kind of like being drunk.
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Obviously Jose does not understand spiritual matters. So there Jiang is right.
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Mellowmarsh replied to Mellowmarsh's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
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James123 replied to Mellowmarsh's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
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Mellowmarsh replied to Mellowmarsh's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Yes, I really do understand that mind and body is within the you what you always are. Mind and bodies come together and fall apart. But not you. -
James123 replied to Mellowmarsh's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Mind and body is like arm and leg. You are always what you are, only, universe takes place within that. That's all. -
Mellowmarsh replied to Mellowmarsh's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
The practice of, being witness of thoughts in Hindu traditions or surrendering in Muslim or christian traditions are actually identical. Which means is not stop functioning or throwing out to baby with bathwater, it is actually deeply understanding that body / mind already functions by itself. Therefore, assumption of, I am control of the body is, just in thinking. Deeply in thinking, including body / mind functions belongs to me. The physical and the spiritual are two different aspects of human experience, and they’re not in opposition. The human experience is to claim the body as my body. But the human mind can understand its own opposition that understands it is nobody’s body, that’s right, J -
I went, I felt like I embarked on a voyage yesterday. I'm back, I'm a bit fazed. Back into this physical reality. But different. More aware of, like, what the fuck is actually going on. The biggest insight I got from yesterday is that what you are... is... nothing. And that nothing... is conscious. And it's creating fucking everything. And it exists nowhere. And you are literally a fucking universe. Being aware of itself. This experience, this conscious experience. The experience of being conscious is how the universe is creating itself. And it fucking breaks you heart. I was walking down the street, as I was coming down, and I could see... the arrow, as, like, an arrow of nothing that's penetrating everything, and it was pure unity, pure oneness, with everyone else, and everyone, including my body and my mind, and everything else, was... connected with this unity. With this nothingness, with this awareness, with this consciousness. So, when you're looking at a bottle, the bottle is generating itself with awareness. And that's what the universe is creating, but it feels like you're looking at it when your consciousness is not high, but it's not. There's something, there's a nothingness, which is aware of the bottle, and that is the creation of it. The experience of being conscious is the creative process. Oh, no, no, I'm walking down there. No, no, no. I penetrated through unity, so then everyone was myself, and I wasn't in my body, and by myself, I mean, universal self. Like, universal oneness, and everyone was it, and we were all there. And because of that, you just start crying. I remember when I finished. I was calming down, I was walking, went to a coffee shop, and I was just fucking crying, and everyone. And then this guy was like, "You're right." I was like, looking at him, and I was like, there's no me, there's no self. It's just, that's me, this is me. Everyone's me. Now I'm back in this limited form, but, like, definitely more aware of the mechanisms of how this form is working. This is where it's at, but, like, riding the bull of consciousness. This is what the monks talk about in Zen Buddhism. And it makes my meditation practice look like a fucking peanut. It's even crazy, because, like, when I'm writing to you now, it feels like, is there anyone? I was writing to myself. Is there anyone there on the other side of this communication? Is there anyone that's actually conscious of something? Please tell me. But then the thing, the thing, which is aware of it, that thing is exactly the same, and it's, I am you, you are me. It's all one thing going on. It's just oneness. There's, like, one thing which is, and it's a complete mystery, because it's coming out of nothing, it's occurring nowhere. It's existing nowhere. It is creating itself. You're that. And you're that, and... the awareness that you are looking right now is what that is. Like, that process of being aware is what you are, undeniably. It's like... like you're not the body or my mind. That consciousness, you can rest in that. And when you raise your consciousness, it's like, it's like you're awake. The universe becomes awake to itself. And the universe is looking through you right now. And the sound's coming out, my voice is the universe talking. The sounds... The sounds I'm hearing is the universe just creating itself. Now, another question I need to figure out is, like... I remember when I saw this deep into this nothingness. And, like, the first thought that came was like, what is it doing? There's another being. What is it, what is it doing? It's just doing itself. And then this tree is an "I". It's like existing as itself, and I'm that. What is it doing? What is reality doing? It's just doing. It's doing itself from nothing. This void, it... It's nothing, and it's doing. And it's the whole thing doing. Like, when you hear a bird sound, thats reality doing, When you hear, when you look at someone, that's a reality doing. When you see... anything is reality's doing... Reality is doing, and why is it doing? What is it doing? Like, these are the questions that, I don't know. It is doing. I... All right, that's a mystery. Like, in this solid realm, it seems physical, is because your awareness of it is not strong. We're very much asleep. And by being asleep, I am asleep right now, because my consciousness is not high. I am asleep. Because, yeah, my consciousness is not higher. You raise it, like, you wake up, and then you come back to sleep, and it's, like, okay, so now, my consciousness is very subtle. There is awareness there, but I'm not really conscious of it. I'm not conscious of me being aware. I'm not conscious of the conscious experience which is going on now. My consciousness is reduced so much that now, it feels like I'm separate. Now, because I am looking at the tree, and not the tree, and I of my body, is being created by awareness. Like, when you raise your consciousness, you see that, that, that consciousness is the emptiness. And that's what you are, and then when you look at something, you're creating it. With your consciousness. Oh, fuck. Oh, you get the sense, it's all gonna be okay. Now, I don't have that sense. I mean, I do a little bit, but I just felt it strong, but when you're there, you're like, it's all one. It's all perfect. It's all fine. Everything's fine. Everything is out there, it's going to be. Reality's just doing its thing. It's doing its thing for no reason. And that's what you are.
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James123 replied to Mellowmarsh's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
The practice of, being witness of thoughts in Hindu traditions or surrendering in Muslim or christian traditions are actually identical. Which means is not stop functioning or throwing out to baby with bathwater, it is actually deeply understanding that body / mind already functions by itself. Therefore, assumption of, I am control of the body is, just in thinking. Deeply in thinking, including body / mind functions belongs to me. Not being attached to thinking is not stop functioning the body / mind, actually understanding that body / mind was/is never under control. And me is just is within thinking or attachment to thinking. And even thinking is belongs to the body and mind. So entire story lies within thinking, and when it is released or not being attached, story doesn't end, actually word of story disseappears, including word of disseparing. There is no word to describe, because, even a sound to describe is attachment itself. -
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Mellowmarsh replied to CARDOZZO's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
I agree in the context of emotional and romantic love that seemingly requires effort, usually the kind of love that involves two. Even the love with one’s own self can require effort within the mind that is dual by its very nature. We beat ourselves up over silly words that we have believed to be true, for example, when someone is told they are not good enough, or something. So yeah, I agree with you once again. Love is just what is now, effortlessly flowing forth from source to source an endless expression of oneness without condition or expectation. I still think that even the belief I am a bad person is just a perfect expression of oneness. So ultimately nothing matters when love is this unconditional. But obviously human love requires effort because human love is conditional due to its unavoidable egocentrism. -
Breakingthewall replied to Judy2's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
It's simple, be absolutely selfish. But being absolutely selfish means giving your best, expand your energy, connect with others, taking risks, merge with the whole, giving yourself to the reality. Because anything else is going against yourself. -
It's the opposite. The more intuitively well-adjusted you are, the less theory you need. Theory is for when you're not where you want to be, which is most guys who are struggling with dating. You can potentially get in your head by consuming theory, but it's silly to therefore frame theory as simply a "bonus". It is not a bonus for guys who struggle, it's essential. The whole point of theory is that we're tackling problems beyond your current skill set. So walking doesn't apply. Sure, you could try to sit down and "just play music". But good luck with that.
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Mellowmarsh replied to Mellowmarsh's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Yes, I agree with what you are saying, James. I guess what I’m trying to say rather clumsily is … to awaken, for me, is the same as dying or surrendering to the irrational belief there is a separate ‘someone’ who suffers from their misguided conditioned beliefs believed. Freedom from all such belief is likened to a death, which leaves a sense of pure clarity in it’s wake. There’s this spontaneous recognition that even death is just another belief…and so that’s what I personally call the awakening…and yet, even the idea of an ‘awakening’ is still just part of the same belief system. But I’m not suggesting throwing out the baby with the bathwater, it’s not that ego is being denied it’s birthright position. Humans still need to function on a human level which they have been doing since the birth of their avatar. The avatar is simply recognised for what it is not, rather than what it is, as believed in this conception. Just more pointless word salad I know, but yeah, I’m on the same page as you on this one, James. -
In the latest video breaking down Prof Jiang's epistemic framework errors there is a section that in which Jiang claims that his ideas and inspiration and that of most scientists comes from the divine. @Leo Gura You've mentioned this too. The video narrator Jose claims this is baloney. I seek clarification on this matter. Good video. I also disagree with a few of the points raised by Jose in his breakdown but overall good analysis of the Jiang.
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You have a very "reducing" temperament, I could've expected this response. Then I guess I'm saying being very serious about theory is not necessarily the answer and it might even be detrimental if you're not already somewhat intuitively well-adjusted (and maybe even if you are). It's like if you want to be serious about walking on your two feet, do you have to be very serious about the theory of walking on your two feet or should you perhaps simply proceed to walk on your two feet and see if it works just doing that? Maybe if you want to add a couple of percentages of efficiency on your walking, you will engage in some theory and perhaps slightly tweak your walking patterns, but you might also end up ruining your natural gait and become less efficient.
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This is not understanding God. Its not a receptor, its a realization the receptors have. The receptors cant show you God, maybe a combination of the receptors can make you understand it easier but it requires some sort of thought process to obtain. Something thats not any of the receptors or anything that has to do with your brain sees itself via logic. You need logic to see God. Not hyper logic but you see some sort of ego system to understand what is happening. You need a before and after to see the now. You can see it without drugs. If you saw God right now you would think you died. And if you came back you would think you somehow got revived. You wouldnt know that you saw God. Nothing to do with a sensor. Its a logical conclusion of an event with a void state. After thinking about it in the dream. Its the dream realizing itself. Cause when the dream turns off you are still there. You can only do this after leaving the dream with the the ego and returning to the dream with the ego. You can take the drug and not understand God. When you understand God something happens to your receptors. Every molecule in your body starts dancing. This could just be a receptor that is assigned to the fear of death.
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That doesn't hold with music or with women. Everyone uses theory. It's just a question of how much and how good it is. Anyone who is serious about something will put in effort to learn the theory, or you're just being foolish.
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I call what jiang does : selling narrative porn. People like what sounds clever. The hardcore truths are barely possible through langage. we get delusional about everything all the time because we create a world at the measure of our assumptions about any category. Which are all "feelings".
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@No1Here2c If you dont have silence you dont have music. Its just random sounds.
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People learning pickup theory to be successful with women reminds me of people learning music theory to be good musicians. That's like at most a bonus, if it's not a detriment (which it very often can be). Playing music (or making it, be it only in thought) is what makes you a good musician. And emphasis on "playing" and not necessarily "practice". Some of the best musical virtuosos in the world have said they have never actually "practiced" but simply played what they enjoy. So maybe the question is do you genuinely enjoy (or can you get yourself to enjoy) talking to women? Then maybe they will enjoy talking to you too (many women are like pristine mirrors, they reflect yourself right back at you). And as for "I can enjoy talking about things I like but then women won't like me", that's not what I mean. That's literally defined as "autistic thinking", talking only about your own interests while not communicating with the other person. And it's not only women who won't like you then. If you can't tune into the other person and establish a shared space and connection, that's a larger issue of how you relate to people, and that can be trained, and you can get to like that over time, genuinely listening to people and riffing off of them. The trick is to get to talk about your own interests "through" them. You lead, you ask, you probe, you listen, then find a connection and go from there. Or you simply learn to like observing and engaging with different perspectives which then feeds into your interests that way. If there is no connection, get it out then leave it, you are talking to yourself. You want to enjoy talking "to" or "with" them, not "at" them. Shallow gimmicks do not beat genuine connection. When it comes to playing, drop the theory and engage with the music.
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Alex_R replied to Husseinisdoingfine's topic in Society, Politics, Government, Environment, Current Events
Incelism is all-time high, there are serious chance that Andrew Tate win the UK Elections, like Milei and Bolsonaro. -
The way a song floats, dancing within the conscious field, a phantom-like slipping-by, what exactly is it? Why do we find it so beautiful? Because it cannot be held? Nothing can lock it into place? If you could somehow lock a song's slipping notes into place would it no longer be music? A tango of brief conscious arisal, momentarily held, to dissipate once more. But what exactly is music? Where exactly does it occur? Why do we love to listen to the elapsing of it's disappearance? Where do they notes come of? Where do they go? Why do they go? What is the allurment of this passing? How long can a tone be held before it is no longer music? How long can the space between notes last before it severs the steady flow? What is it about this steady unsevered flow of severed bits & pieces that hooks us to it? what is so special about it? Does music seem to have a spacial quality to it? Where is this space? Occuring in abstract conscious being? A lullaby to lure you into sleep? Or a beautiful berceuse in order to pull you out of slumber? How softly can a song be played before the underlying silence becomes music too? Silence: the eternal orchestra? The never ending music?
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