How To Discover What's True
By Leo Gura - October 28, 2019 | 40 Comments
A deep inquiry into how we can know anything for certain
Tayyeb says: Hi, this is Tayyeb from Iran. I’ve watch more than 50 hours of your videos. Decided to quit med school and start new business in music. I can’t afford your life purpose course. Can you help me?
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Max Gron says: It might surprise even you but I checked under the bed and I found a little space kangaroo which I saw with the mind’s eye, hopping under the bed. Leo must’ve seen a space kangaroo, therefore the supernatural, the non-physical, is real, reality isn’t material.
Rebecca Sinclair says: I am considering getting you to know me by leaving replies to videos that address major frameworks I have chosen to work at truth from. The only thing I am certain of is that I keep living what I really consider. Years ago I read in a little story to “just change my mind” if I didn’t like what I felt and had. Utterly impossile. Waaaa waaa waaa! But, but, but.
A few years ago I began seriously taking pictures. I began to change my “point of view” to change my pictures. What a joy! And then suddenly I GOT it! Change my mind by changing my fucking point of view! I’m writing as I listen to you. You are mentioning perceptions. Suddenly I got it how limited our perceptions are the same time I learned how easy it is to change my point of view.
It is soooo possible. Knowing what is true I mean.
Once after quitting my 3rd cult (Christianity, Group Dynamics/James Brennan/Palos Verdes/Hawaii, Scientology) I made a deal with God. I said, “I do it my way, you keep me safe from the abyss and I’m your girl, I will never stop knowing you.” This was a bit of a big order because what I wanted protection from was drug addiction, alcoholism, pregnancy, prostitution and prison. I really liked to rock and roll.
So now I’m coiming at it all from what to me is a new direction. I want to know how IT works. Now you are talking about quarks etc.
Cripes Leo, every time I think of something and type it you start TALKING about what I just wrote. Now you are going on about IT and I just wrote that I want to know how IT works.
That’s how I know IT is discoverable. Cause IT keeps happening to me, for me, in me, around me.
Trust me Leo. I’ll keep dropping you ways to fact check as I can. God bless you, Allah is good, may the Force be with you.
Rebecca Sinclair says: A little bit NEGLIGIBLE? You are hysterical. “I THINK I LOVE YOU” (caps will often denote song titles or lines from songs. They keep popping into my head)
Max Gron says: I can’t discover the truth based on the supernatural, what if I’m delusional? What if I’m hallucinating? What if it’s a shared hallucination? It might be my imagination. It might be a lie. Reality’s my direct experience, based on my awareness, based on pulling the curtain from the elephant’s arse and not falling asleep and being drunk, without that. Based on my thinking, based on what I did, even though the above video is an accurate way of discovering truth. Truth’s based on ideology, science, philosophy, and religion, for me these are the correct methods of truth, and it’s based on rationality, not one rationality is untrue, I don’t know what the truth is, yet I’m getting closer to being right. It’s not as real as it seems, to believe in “the mind’s eye”, only evil magick is the truth, not “religion”, unless you discover one true religion, only one of any magic (it varies from person to person) is true, only one of the sciences is true, only one or two philosophies are true, only one Taoism is true, only one other religion is true, only one ideology is true, only one of the meta-beliefs is true, only one conformity is true, and only one traditionalism is true, you never know, ultraconservatism might be the one true traditionalism, only one traditionalism of music, in any style (it varies depending on the musical style) is true, truth is simple, only one of each belief is true, perhaps two philosophies, it’s as simple as that.
Philipp says: A masterpiece!
Teresa says: Lee Strobel (journalist with law degree –legal editor) was on a similar quest for truth — (as we all are). Consider what he discovered either through his books or through the movie made about the very thing you’re seeking. Consider watching the Case for Christ movie or reading the Case for Christ book by Lee Strobel. It’s a great read and an undeniable testimony of finding truth.
If you’re really open to all possibilities as you say, then you should consider as Lee Strobel did and discover truth.
Rebecca Sinclair says: Thanks Teresa. I just watched The Case For Christ as you suggested. Now I’m watching a conference called Searching For Allah, Finding Jesus.
Did you read or see Life of Pi? The story opens with the main character talking about simultaneously being a Buddhist, a Christian and a Muslim, I find no conflict. Nor do I find a conflict with any of them and what Leo is learning and sharing with us. It all seems rather obvious. I mean what are people expecting anyway? That has always been the big mystery with Judaism, Islam and Christianity. They all stop rather short it seems. It’s just so peculiar that what everyone is doing in heaven/paradise is such a mystery. I mean how does it work for crying out loud. Allah be praised, thank the Lord and may the force be with you!
Max Gron says: I find it suspicious that Christianity or otherwise some other religion, cult, or sect is true because an authoritative book with old tradition and nothing original or because some freak who’s wrong about wine in animal skins said so. In your location, perhaps USA, Latin America, the Carribean or Canada or Alaska you have the perfect opportunity to be a Christian, I question that, nothing of perfection is true, and I think it’s true that anti-perfectionism in all things is true. Jesus Christ is merely a man teaching a bunch of stories and helping people immorally such as with tax collectors, whores, and soaking his feet with women, which has caused a lot of trouble, to start both a cult and a toolkit for goodwill, that’s a Jesus Christy sort of invention and not the invention of humanitarians and altruists, with the exception that Jesus Christ was an altruist.
Shiso says: Consider this self-referential statement as follows.
Nothing is true.
Because it is self-referential it turns back on itself meaning that even the statement that nothing is true is not true, thus negating itself. Meaning that there is a truth?
He gets very angry and jealous when Akane has shown any evidence of interest in another man, more specifically Ryoga or Shinnosuke, has either driven him to paranoia, depression or outrageous schemes. He also gets jealous when another man touches or flirts with Akane. somehow risked to get ‘too close’ to Akane
He says Akane’s ugly,Sexless,Easy,Flat but he’d rather interfere with her time with
any other man alone than let her leave him out of her affairs 42 He glared at her
with another man outside preparing for their real date He’s funny when is jealous!
He’s offensive to her in public some reasons why she prefers Ryouga betty to him!
74 Love how jealous and threatened he was feeling of another man replacing him
in Akane’s life Akane’s home.He wants Akane to need him in her life why he loves
her romantically.I couldn’t kick Ryouga’s butt with out Dum Dum!Knew he can but
is offended at Akane not believing his truth after she told him she’ll see meaning
she hasn’t seen correctly or is pretending to annoy him.He insisted on Akane not
coming with a dum dum man to bring food in her home to feed her family friends!
He glared at dum dum lowering his face to reach her shortest height he look like he may try to kiss her face.Dom dum blushed as he stared at Akane he’s attracte
to her already since the day he met her in her home.Love how jealous,suspicious
his face showed as I saw him between Akane and Dum dum not to close not too
far!After Ranma heard him ask of her living with a panda he stood as close to her
to protect her from Dum dum’s influence on her!He interrupted Akane’s answer to
prevent dum dum from getting more benefits from her than Ranma does all day!I
Love how jealous and threatened how sounds of her fathwr letting any man live in
her home with her.He’s scared of any men touching Akane flirting with her using a
lot of her precious time for selfish wasteful plans.Hypocritical humor believes him
and his dad deserve to live with Akane but won’t trust dum dum man since first!
Ranma spied on Akane outside alone with Dum dum holding red umbrella heard
her say “that was funny” describing what dum dum said to her in their alone time!
He’s jealous of dum dum closed his eyes claims to not truly care of being replaced
of dum dum to live with akane!He hilariously shouted ” If mr dumb as an ox want
to marry Miss built like an ox(Akane Tendo)Let Akane and dum dum do it they
deserve each other!”Interesting truth Rather than being thankful at Dum Dum for
rescuing Akane Tendo from a umbrella aimed at her accurately(She can avoid that
easily in 1 second but no Dum Dum carried her away for umbrella in 1 second So
Ranma’s irritated at dum dum for using a personal conditioned reflex on Akane So
He groaned out loud glared at dum dum for seconds.He stood close as he can to
Akane Tendo beside her outside alone.He’s hiding his jealousy by showing how he
really cares of what Akane Tendo thinks about him,Acting unimpressed by Losers!
Ryouga and dum dum man who had alone time with Akane under rain He asks her
“who needs them(Ryouga,Dum dum)Anyway?” He looked away from her with his
hands behind his head he glared at Akane for saying Ranma should choose Angry!
He said he thinks she’s believing He can’t kick Ryouga’s butt without dum dum So
insists she’s wrong about assuming that!She doubts his answer told him she’ll see
about Ranma defeating Ryouga independantly.He furiously asks Akane what she’d
said to him with her serious views.He’s completely lost his jealous temper glared
as Akane willingly walked away from him to leave Ranma where he stood,Clenchd
fists body shaking stood opposide direction kicked a can high far away.He shouted
about Akane”Uncute!Unsexy!” almost said another un word before hit by umbrella
behind him without warning!As he ate his meal sitting next to Akane Tendo he did
widen his eyes,clench hid right fist as hard as possible he held chopsticks high So
placed them on table harshly!Asking to be excused away from eating He Insulted
Akane Tendo in front of her family and his dad in her home said Dum dum’s a lot
better than Akane Tendo by a long shot He glared at Akane with his teeth closed
mouth open after she ask what he said about Akane Tendo interrupted by Dumdu
He’s furious to hear dum dum say It’s not good for them to fight argue but he did
sarcastically ask what gave dum dum that idea of him wanting them not to fight I
saw his eyes closed as he left their eating room He pretends not to care of dum d
stealing Akane Tendo from him asking if he should care he said if they want handy
man they are better off without him and his dad reminded dad they both train to
be martial artists not a couple of suck ups trying to prove what good in laws they
can be because they cook dinner clean windows and sow hems he wants his dad 2
be honest of admitting he worries about himself and couldn’t care less about son!
Ranma fell on his back after his dad said course not.Silently impatient at dad He’ll
throw cold water on dads body so dad becomes a real panda for him fed up at his
voice making Ranma feel jealous,suspicious,Uncomfortable,determined So Ranma
Claims to be too hungry to help dum dum carry food with him to Akane’s familySo
After hearing Akane say it’s ok for her to go to dum dum to help him get food inas
soon as possible she stood up from where she sat closest to Ranma most He knew
it’s like Akane abandoning Ranma to spend more time with dum dum he’s offende
she’d try to persuade her family it’s ok for Akane Tendo to go with dum dum mata
Ranma insisted on Akane ignoring dum dum so she’ll stay physically close to him
and physically away from dum dum as much as possible He insisted on controlling
her without hesitation Just one second for Akane Tendo to pause after saying she’l
help dum dum as soon as she can Ranma bluntly insists to Akane Tendo to ignore
dum dum but not Ranma’s voice saying how he wants her to behave ignore dumb
will she? He uncaringly told her dum dum will be fine without Akane Tendo leaving
Ranma Saotome to help Dum dum who’s more dependant,Naive,Obedient,Polite!!!
Ranma thought as a weakened boy he’ll especially miss Akane Tendo sincerely but
He’ll always try to control her,disrespect her problems in public,Insult her privacy!
Akane Tendo stood exactly where she sat next to Ranma knew he didn’t care of
dum dum being fine or not.Ranma asks Akane is Ranma correct or what of dumbd
Love how many unpredictable ideas Ranma uses to challenge Akane to care of he!
She lost her underwear.Ranma rudely told Akane to stop yelling this early.He wont
touch Akane’s toxic jockeys if Akane paid him clearly offended at Akane thinking
Ranma touched Akane’s underwear.The more time you truly spend on living in the
same comfortable home as any boy mainly your personal home never had boys A
fight between Akane and Ranma Akane’s offended at calling her underwear toxic!
He rudely asks Akane to ask the “freak”Happosai the oldest smallest male hentai
He rudely but justifiedly demanded freak to return girls underwear He impatiently
insisted they return called underwear stupid anyway!Surprisingly they saw a ball
made of real underwear giant compared to most humans Who the heck would do
this hilarious yet wasteful underwear robbery?Ranma calmly said ok that’s it he
gives up he can have it all (proberly not meaning Dumb can keep Akane Tendo)So
He turned his head right to look at Akanes face stood close as he can to her asks
her if she wants Dum dum to take over her dojo huh?Akane embarassedly shook
her head meaning no.He didn’t physically move away from Akane Tendo,closed his
eyes looked left away from Akane Tendo Hands behind head seeming uninterested
in Akane Tendo’s feelings and ideas of whether to prefer Ranma despite rudeness
or Dumb despite him claiming Akane Tendo gave him courage to steal underwear!
He smugly opened his left eye to look at Akane Tendo then thinking Akane guesse
Akane Tendo needs Ranma Saotome more than she thought she did before this so
he’s completely proud of him being necessary for Akane Tendo’s health He wins so
Ranma choked after he heard the truth Genji cooked his meal and Akane’s meal a
conversation of Akane dumping Ranma for Genji offended Ranma,Akane Kasumi’s
agreed with Nabiki of Genji being better than Ranma but Akane angrily disagreed!
Akane Tendo admires a man with a correct fulfilling sense of responsiblity Ranma
clearly wants Akane’s family have have correct fulfilling standards for who to have
How she’s simlar to Shinobu Miyake from Urusei Yatsura When angry at teen boys
throws tables or just physically hurts them just with her own body.Were truly in
love with main male protagonist who were poor are fast runners brave deny being
jealous of men getting close to the girls they truly love romantically usually won’t
hurt a girl willingly unless she’s too dangerous to be trusted.Hypocritical attitudes
Ofter physically hurts their love interest if he’s close with another attractive girl
close to his age both usually have short loose straightly cut hair reach shoulders
with fringe covering most of their foreheads
Max Gron says: My comment is simple, just one comment in a row, editing the fluff and fat of my comments to reduce it to the juicy bits of my writing, and that I’m to say that it isn’t from your or my culture, but of course religion’s “true” if you see it and convince yourself, through your testing that it’s true, if you haven’t investigated into non-imaginary things, like science, and that would be true. Do you see it’s dangerous to be involved in religious truth? Of course it’s your truth if your truth is magical mumbo jumbo and voodoo becomes your science, that stuff’s easy, anyone can believe in spirit and call it true, religion’s just another of thousands of religions that all say they’re true, what if you’re wrong? What if your whole life of studying religion you wasted your years studying imagination not in reality, but inside your head? It can be 50 years of life’s work into bullshit but it’s still bullshit. But be careful what you deny, voodoo might be true, Taoism might be true, science might be true, it’s through at least 3 avenues.
Max Gron says: Truth is as it was years ago, as it’s not a simple thing, the truth is a bit complicated, religious belief simply isn’t true, I know what the truth is, only antitheism, antidisbelief, asceticism, pessimism, my own personal anti-perfectionism, my own personal professionalism, traditionalism, ultranormalism, science, Darwinism, vitalism, verism, culturalism, kingism, quasi-vegetarianism, the belief that being myself attracts the right people, that people are asleep at night, phenomenalism, and my morality are true. I know from direct experience of what I thought in the first place!
Max Raoy Gron says: I think the extremist beliefs are true, what’s needed is ultraconservatism. Also ultraperfectionism, ultranormalism, antidisbelief, anti-capitalism, anti-Australianism, pessimism, and and hyperrationalism (being rational, not believing in the supernatural, gods, religions, etc, no ghosts, and also only believing truth based on proof, using science).
Max Raoy Gron says: This time I’m 100% sure of the truth and as I found out Puritanism’s true, I found out my original beliefs have been true in the first place. I saw God therefore it cuts off every opportunity of disbelief.
Max Raoy Gron says: Observing the history of my religion and the atrocities of other religions, and the science involved in solipsism, and pessimism, antitheism, Pyrrhonism, ultratraditionalism, anti-Australianism (if believed right it’s nothing but the truth), pragmatism, I tested such beliefs as solipsism, it was true before, and so was antitheism, so that means giving up my old religion.
Max the Know better says: I’ll just put my sceptical hat on, I don’t know if my beliefs are true so I’ll just keep believing them and maybe I’ll be right, this stuff isn’t easy, I’ll just believe them on faith. After that I won’t be sceptical. I know I should decide while I’m 39 years old. Maybe time is true, time might exist therefore all things might have a lot of time.
Max Gron says: I can learn the truth from science under a microscope, these are reliable avenues of truth, if I get samples and test them, and put chemicals under the microscope, I know it’s true. I also know the truth from looking through a telescope, it should be written down. Perhaps my blood has blood cells in it, I would have to test it, if I’m an empirical scientist, I would have to look at these things, perhaps biology’s the truth, evolutionary biology with vials of small pieces might be as true as Richard Dawkins says it is. I know for sure.
Max Raoy Gron says: Truth’s what I think, and I think it’s based on fact, it’s that simple, only pessimism’s the truth, I don’t think my beliefs are what’s true, things will turn out as evil, suffering, and misery, that’s it, it’s the only truth so I’m finished with the search, believing wrong things never feels right, reality is awful as it took some experimentation and experience to realise that pessimism is the only truth, I’ll disbelieve everything else.
Max Raoy Gron says: If truth isn’t simply a fact, then it’s a lie, my religion’s a fact, there’s only one god, as a goddess named Fortune, and disastrous things will happen, and that’s it, truth is simple, it’s made up of just one belief. I tested most other pessimisms, and I don’t care that I got nowhere, or that I didn’t make progress, better beliefs aren’t the truth. I’m suspicious about beliefs that are hard to believe, the truth is what’s believable, based on evidence, when I seek truth or truthful writing, I don’t have the cognitive bias of getting it from a professor, university, businessman or businesswoman, business, encylopaedist, a good dictionary, etc, I think anyone can write the truth, not the placing authority on the experts, even if a philosopher or a Christian or priest, or singer wrote it, or even if a comedian wrote it, I would still believe it if it’s true, I don’t cherrypick people who write books, if it’s non-fiction, it’s absolutely true, it’s as simple as that, if a comedian wrote about philosophy I would believe it, even if it’s not from a professor, if Mr Whippy wrote about pessimism I would believe it, if L.J hooker, a housing company wrote it, I would believe it, I also don’t cherrypick experts, I’d ask anyone. Since anything can happen, ghosts are real, aliens are real, and unicorns are real, all of which contradict reason, so reason can be wrong, science that has hatred of mankind is the truth, if a person, group, or belief is against me, they’re full of shit, but the fact it might happen would be the truth. Some of the events and people and places and things are unexplained, the truth is people are things, people aren’t however, animals, but we’re not special, we and aliens are beings, creatures and living things, people just call themselves something else because their feelings get hurt, as much as it hurts your feelings you’re a thing, as all people are things, you’re that, as in that girl, like it or not, you’re also a lot of things. The truth usually hurts your feelings, you’re a fucking thing!
Max the shithead says: My morals are true, selfishness is good, and it doesn’t matter how hurt people are about myself, it’s just a self, it’s not doing any harm, and I will do it, even if someone cries at me, even if it upsets people, it’s good anyway, what I do doesn’t matter, even if it led to a death in the friendship or family by how terrible I am, it’s good, I didn’t kill, steal, rape, be paedophilic, molest, slander, lie, hurt, harm, injure, inconvenience, talk over people, be rude, or anything else evil, or do evil, in that regard I can do whatever I want, my morals are true, I have no compassion, no pity, no surrender and no mercy.
Max the shithead says: The avenue I can use to get to the truth is warnings, even if a child warned me, to save me from myself, warnings, is how to know if something is true, if a child warned me there was a monster in the closet I wouldn’t go in the closet, if a teacher warned me an animal will bite, or if my mother or father warned me not to hop out of a 4-wheel drive where there are giant animals on safari, I would obey it, 99% of the time warnings are true, if a weirdo or eccentric warned me I would believe them even if I’m scared to or scared of them, even if a clown said it, even if Mr Whippy said it, even if a weirdo said “never trust a weirdo” I would never trust a weirdo, I wouldn’t want to, because I’m afraid of what weirdos might do, I’m not taking risks, even if I warned myself, I would obey that, that’s the only avenue of getting to the truth, warnings from everybody and every animal and everything.
Max the know better says: Okay, I got it, seeing through any subtleties, including trickiness, slyness, and deceitfulness, is a good avenue to getting to the truth, I’ll use it.
Max Raoy Gron says: I have not much to say but given these many changes of perspective and none of them true, truth is uncertain, if I discover any truth, it remains in my memory, given that beliefs can be misleading the only true life is the one I lived most consistently, Soren Kierkegaard’s aesthetic life, that anything else is true I doubt it, I just know truth is uncertain.
Max Raoy Gron says: I don’t know, maybe antitheism is the truth, I’ll go and test it, even metaphysical monism, and pessimism, then maybe I’ll arrive at the truth, maybe there’s a possibility that the Bible’s correct, maybe evolution is true, I’ll investigate into all these things to find out if it’s so. Maybe anti-Australianism and provincialism are the truth, it’s this country and this province, that’s the only investigation I have to make, along with pessimism, about this inquiry, I’ll believe these three things. The truth might be a theory that has no effect on unpleasant reality with the goddess Fortune, I’ll try these things and consider the results.
Max the shithead says: The truth’s here and I found it after 40 years and 3 quarters, pessimism, anti-Australianism, botany, evolutionary biology, and metaphysical monism, I contemplated this for 3 minutes and contemplated not ending up like anyone else who contemplates their versions of the truth, them believing in God, no contemplation in the world will rid you of that delusion, it needs to be (hate to make up words) a meta-contemplation where you tell yourself God isn’t true, it’s also disgusting, religion’s a disgusting belief, the resulting outcome of the truth is how cursed it is, side effects of acting young, being high quality people find fault, they see disgust in your standards, that’s funny, good is good, it means it shows a lot of talent, I’m too good, in an aesthetic way, rather than perfectionism I aimed so high as to cause jealousy in my mother because of my fancy, quality behaviour, it’s fancy because it has added pleasure and luxury to it, excessive in nature, with a fancy, more scientific model of the truth, I started really seeing reality once God dropped out of my life, not thinking as much, using my mind properly by using my mind to do good and take action on something constructive, I think pessimism is hating the world but loving myself, it’s optimism that you’re better than the cruel world, you, the pessimist, are the best, as for the truth, just tell me it’s true, stop lying with your juvenile beliefs in God and ghosts! It’s not true, it can’t be, it ignores the results based on fact, the fact is simply, at this rate, that this is a painful, sometimes annoying if anything else, world that is to hell with the world, because Uncle Tom wants a pastrami sandwich, what do you think of that!?
Max the Know better says: I found the truth now and this time I know the truth for certain, found in a kind of ultrapessimism and lepidopterology (the science of moths and butterflies), I’m quitting the skepticism for good, religion’s nonsense, witchcraft and voodoo are nonsense, you can learn better from a self-styled lepidopterologist.
Maxiwrong says: Truth’s uncertain, that’s what I know for certain, ultrapessimism, Kierkegaardian belief, anti-Australianism, Darwinism, botany, and sciences of animals, namely lepidopterology, are the only truths, it’s true what Leo said, scientists only care about a specific science, if you’re a herpetologist, you’re not interested in studying your spit, insects, millipedes, or molluscs, you only care about herpetology, you only study reptiles and amphibians, if you’re a lepidopterist you only care about lepidopterology, you only study moths and butterflies and not frogs, scientists are very specific. Just like in some cases religious studies, you only care about Christianity, or studying the Koran, that small subfield, I think it’s ridiculous but these people don’t know what hunger is, if I was hungry I only care about eating food, not the nourishing of my soul! If I’m religious and I am, I only care about science if I can use it to aid my faith, if it was attacking my faith I wouldn’t do science, therefore I only care about God and what he’s created to learn from. All religions are nonsense, there’s no proof of them, but they fall under the umbrella of supernatural truth, if it only happens in America then God chose America, when he made kangaroos he must’ve put together every hair on its body, strand by strand, and the holes on the sides of its mouth, a heart, a brain etc to produce a kangaroo, these animals are natural selection, people didn’t make them.
Maxiwrong says: Who told you truth is hard to find? And who told you physics is correct? And who told you veganism must be true? Truth is what I think, it’s subjective, it might turn out that methodological solipsism is true, we can’t know that for certain, how do you know brains don’t exist? Just because you never saw a brain it doesn’t mean I can’t cut your head open and find a brain in there. Your brain might be in a vat for study by a mad scientist, neuroscience should ring some bells. Religion has been debunked too many times, that must mean there’s not enough evidence for how true it is, of the overwhelming evidence, does that mean I have to accept it? Religions had people burned, even Christians, to defend the faith, if I have to defend it, isn’t it a fear of the lies of my faith? I’m not about to tread the dangerous path of sacrificing people, it’s disgusting as reality is a disgusting thing to look at and find out about, you would think the truth is a pleasant thing, to your liking and the cracks, the disasters become more obvious, truth is a hideous, disgusting thing in the world, I never said it was a wonderful life that didn’t make me wanna retch, truth makes me wanna vomit, it endangers survival, it intrudes on studies, cooking, whatever you’re doing, people are bloody monsters! There’s nothing we can learn from reality, except the sciences, the rest of reality is creepy when science is wonderful, it would be wonderful if it wasn’t opposed to your religious beliefs, if it wasn’t debunking religion, studying animals as a science is just studying animals as a science, it doesn’t attack on religion, it’s neutral about religion, the ideal is to disbelieve everything, even your former beliefs, and that also means disbelieving religion, that’s how science gets laughed at by the religious community, it’s at war because it debunks religion, not all sciences do, herpetology is pretty innocent, it doesn’t debunk religion, it could be silly things like studying flies, that a scientist is doing, Wikipedia doesn’t have that science listed, it only lists sciences of cute animals, not filthy creatures like flies, but how do you know flies are filthy? Have you studied them? Do you even know a fly can get pregnant?
Maxiwrong says: I know what Leo’s implying, searching for his version of the truth, that I’m alive, and that direct experience is the truth, and that I’m the only one who exists, this can be a tool to be used to preserve myself, who I think I am, next time someone says about the science I talk about “that’s not true”, I’m going to get suspicious of that and say, “it’s in my direct experience you ignorant ape, how do you know after all I found about (say) butterflies? Are you a lepidopterist to tell me butterflies have teeth, two eyes, and no brain? Under my “direct experience” a butterfly has compound eyes”, then they might say, “congratulations professor science! Are you Waylan Smithers to act like some intelligent nerd?”, of course the answer is if I’m some nerd I’m proud of it. I’m some kind of hero, I just saved science, by preserving the studies I take interest in, and through some microscope experiments, using some doubt, to reach the conclusion.
Max Gron says: We’re not searching for the truth for ourselves, we’re searching for Leo’s “truth”, his truth is to just reason with our direct experience, rejecting formal logic and all other reason except the reasoning of doubt and then doubting our scepticism, of course our inquiries are going to be unique to us, but what I know for certain besides uncertainty, is that Leo, in being implicit, wants his worldviews in play without us having a worldview for ourselves. This isn’t thinking for yourself! Leo’s playing the game of alluding to what he thinks, what he believes, what I couldn’t put my finger on was nothing more than Leo’s scepticism, solipsism, and wisdom from experience, and unreason, yet the whole time he was being logical, using the same logic used on the internet, he’s not “pulling this out of his arse”! And he’s not making up his own beliefs, his own truth, his truth is from philosophy and religion, it’s also implied that if you’re ignorant and gave up religion and spirituality, then you have a false view of the truth. His truth is simply that Max Gron, me, will eventually find him out and spot him throwing his views on to us, even if it’s not real truth, it’s as simple as assuming Leo and everyone else doesn’t exist, and that I’m all alone, and also alone picking Leo’s allusions and dissecting them, he’s saying that witchcraft is the gospel and that astral projection must be an accurate way to travel, good luck, if you meditate don’t expect me to see you levitate. Leo’s version of the truth aside, what about my truth? My truth is that we’re apes and that our hands are ape’s paws, closely related, Conan O’Brien looks like a chimpanzee, Schopenhauer has an arch-shaped mouth like an ape, and women with straight black hair are merely apes by default, because they have gorilla features, and my truth is that butterflies flap their wings, moths are afraid of you, poor thing? Yeah, right, I killed it humanely, without cruelty to animals. If I’m serious about science, I have to pick a few and only take interest in those sciences, and also my truth is that truth is ugly, your mind if not Leo’s mind is utterly disgusting, thinking evil about me, and how do I know this is true? To paraphrase Leo, my direct experience says so, and says reality gets worse and worse, I know this through ultrapessimism, would I be satisfied if that’s the truth and my version of the truth is that truth is pretty? No! I would have a false view, and if I dismissed science I would have a false view of the truth, the false view that science necessarily is at war with religion, it’s not always the case, eventually about what Leo’s implying, people are going to know too much, they’ll figure him out.
Max Gron says: Maybe ultrapessimism’s true, that there’s no joy, peace, etc, it might be true, maybe antitheism’s true, maybe not. Maybe Islam’s true, maybe GermanenOrden’s true, I suppose the truth lies in Jews corrupting the world, maybe Theodor Fritsch is right.
Maxiwrong says: Not my own intellectualisations? Forget it, I used to have faith in this truth-finding, not anymore, the truth is simple, it’s science and philosophy, I’m not doing this stupid inquiry, nor would I doubt, I’ll find truth my own way, using my intellect, through past assumptions, school studies, etc, only philosophies and the sciences using the intellect is the truth, as Kierkegaardian, pessimism, lepidopterology, batrachology, botany, owl research, Darwinism, philosophy of convention, Owenism, and mutualism, I now know what the truth is, I know it for certain.
Max Gron says: Although this video’s somewhat anti-intellectual, I searched for truth on my own, twice as hard as Leo’s inquiry, when truth’s found in studying non-human primates, moths/butterflies, plants, and amphibians, and in my puritanical faith, anti-Australianism, high Christology and Kierkegaard’s “Either” in “Either/Or”, in this truth-finding, O how wrong I was! Most nurds like me, though they know their past of nurdy learning, would leave that aside, including the sciences above (primates, moths, amphibians, etc), for the sake of religious nurdiness, and would find a transcendent truth from that, if of course they knew that truth in the first place. I think stupidity is ungodly, as only intelligent people have a place in heaven. I could be wrong about many things, but I’m not wrong puritanically holding the only truth, and the only truth that the world’s a world of my despair, everything else doesn’t feel right and I’m not following a rigid set of rules to impress people.